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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #260 on: December 01, 2018, 07:36:26 AM »
...and another!
again, I had to multi-post these in order to make showcasing them work. It took too long to load them all together.

ERROR. more control and durability. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut plastic armor :(
 
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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #261 on: December 01, 2018, 07:37:10 AM »
jesus christ stop posting so i can give you feedback

re: in plain sight
bunch of empty space you could cut out of the chassis. you only need the one nifty, since you're powering two motors. the iron spikes are in all honesty just hindering your wedge's effectiveness.

cut down to one piston, too. you can get that many weapons on the one. honestly i think the original had the better overall design, you just needed to work on the weapon system.

how heavy is tempest mini? two irons is almost nothing on a LW, i would cut down the drive and try to give it more weaponry. there's a bunch of LW face spinners out there with 8 razors, for reference

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #262 on: December 01, 2018, 07:39:15 AM »
Oh, by the way, the new bots are the second screenshot except for ERROR. The mace crawler is the new version.

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #263 on: December 01, 2018, 07:42:08 AM »
jesus christ stop posting so i can give you feedback

re: in plain sight
bunch of empty space you could cut out of the chassis. you only need the one nifty, since you're powering two motors. the iron spikes are in all honesty just hindering your wedge's effectiveness.

cut down to one piston, too. you can get that many weapons on the one. honestly i think the original had the better overall design, you just needed to work on the weapon system.

how heavy is tempest mini? two irons is almost nothing on a LW, i would cut down the drive and try to give it more weaponry. there's a bunch of LW face spinners out there with 8 razors, for reference

Sorry about the burst of posts...

Tempest mini's original version was 248.9kg. The new one's 245.7kg.
In Plain Sight was the most improved. It does use its wedges for flipping opponents, so it nees two nifties. The old one had a single nifty... Also, the irons stop the opponent on the new version, so it can poke the opponent.


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #264 on: December 01, 2018, 08:29:45 AM »
ok but blue snappers suck at flipping. it'd be much more efficient to just run the one nifty and use the weight elsewhere. if you really want to use weapons as a sort of pinning rack, then i'd suggest making some weight for a rack of weapons at the top of the wedge.

your rammer's about as standard as a rammer gets, but it can definitely be optimized further. try a chassis like this:

and see how much weight that saves you.

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #265 on: December 02, 2018, 06:59:33 AM »
I'll keep that in mind. Thank You. I just wanted to try a chassis, unlike the ones incorporated into other rammers in the pack.


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #266 on: December 03, 2018, 08:54:36 AM »
More AI.
LW wammer/flipper
 
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MW flipper/true popup. DSA, 4 irons, DDT, Snapper2 wedges.
 
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Fun build- HW dual-hammer. VERY good.
 
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AW thwacker. It's engulfed in a huge smartzone in the AI.
 
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TERRIBLE BW popup, though it's a rather interesting design. It's very damaging if it gets under you...
 
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World's first armored LW popup.
 
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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #267 on: December 03, 2018, 10:57:14 AM »
the way youre mounting the wedge on the wammer-flipper makes it pretty bad (though i guess it doesnt really matter on a lw). you should also raise the wammer rack to the top of the wedge so the flipper can actually travel, and make the front of the wedge wide enough so that it doesnt get annihilated by hs

you could lower the chassis on your mw, and also use razors instead of irons. they do more damage which is vital for most gut rippers

theres no reason to use grannies on the hammer because you can use shinies instead. also get rid of that pink and stack the blacks so you can cut down on chassis space

you shouldnt need a smartzone to ai a sns, what .py are you using? also spiked clubs suck and you could definitely get two razors on there instead

why are you using mini wheels, especially on a beetleweight. remake the chassis so you can use shinies.

also i very highly doubt your "first ever armored lw popup" claim but theres a reason nobody does it, because it isnt necessary. rad drive is super slow for a lw popup and your chassis is narrow enough where hs will hit the sides and not the ramplate so its pretty useless

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #268 on: December 03, 2018, 12:10:13 PM »
the way youre mounting the wedge on the wammer-flipper makes it pretty bad (though i guess it doesnt really matter on a lw). you should also raise the wammer rack to the top of the wedge so the flipper can actually travel, and make the front of the wedge wide enough so that it doesnt get annihilated by hs

you could lower the chassis on your mw, and also use razors instead of irons. they do more damage which is vital for most gut rippers

theres no reason to use grannies on the hammer because you can use shinies instead. also get rid of that pink and stack the blacks so you can cut down on chassis space

you shouldnt need a smartzone to ai a sns, what .py are you using? also spiked clubs suck and you could definitely get two razors on there instead

why are you using mini wheels, especially on a beetleweight. remake the chassis so you can use shinies.

also i very highly doubt your "first ever armored lw popup" claim but theres a reason nobody does it, because it isnt necessary. rad drive is super slow for a lw popup and your chassis is narrow enough where hs will hit the sides and not the ramplate so its pretty useless

Actually, the LW popup does fairly well against HS because it strikes them head-on. It's also wide enough, but speed is a problem. The BW popup was trash from the beginning. It's getting replaced. The MW popup-breaker uses irons because it also rams with them. This is also to break off weapon racks on opponents.

The thwacker uses an OMNI binding. That's why it has the giant smartzone.

The HW hammer was underweight before I added Slipperbottoms.

Great ideas, though.


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #269 on: December 03, 2018, 12:16:19 PM »
dude just use fbs_1 or something like that for the sns its so much easier

im trying to help you improve your bots so at least try to listen to my advice before defending your poor decisions thank you

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #270 on: December 03, 2018, 12:29:19 PM »
dude just use fbs_1 or something like that for the sns its so much easier

im trying to help you improve your bots so at least try to listen to my advice before defending your poor decisions thank you

I know you are, and I'm not defending my decisions. They'll be rebooted. Especially the wammer and BW popup. I just need time to plan the reboots according to what advice you're giving me. What's FBS_1?


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #271 on: December 03, 2018, 01:56:52 PM »
find it (and other useful ai) here:

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #272 on: December 04, 2018, 09:48:41 AM »


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #273 on: December 04, 2018, 01:54:13 PM »
Okay, the chassis idea you offered me for the LW rammer weighs just 1 KG. lighter. There's no point in changing it for just 1 KG, but Thank you


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #274 on: December 04, 2018, 02:09:12 PM »
Okay, the chassis idea you offered me for the LW rammer weighs just 1 KG. lighter. There's no point in changing it for just 1 KG, but Thank you
its longer and more stable and the wheels won't be hit as easily
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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #275 on: December 04, 2018, 02:28:42 PM »
Okay, the chassis idea you offered me for the LW rammer weighs just 1 KG. lighter. There's no point in changing it for just 1 KG, but Thank you
its longer and more stable and the wheels won't be hit as easily

Good point. Though, I think they're both really stable...


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #276 on: December 04, 2018, 07:46:31 PM »
The haters love u m8. Don't listen to salty ass badnik being sh**ty to you for no reason. You are stock reincarnate. Keep building m8.

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #277 on: December 05, 2018, 08:45:50 AM »
Thanks, Scrap Daddy

I just like to test the physics of bot building and see what works best.


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #278 on: December 05, 2018, 12:23:52 PM »
why you gotta do me like that, im just trying to help

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #279 on: December 05, 2018, 01:24:53 PM »
why you gotta do me like that, im just trying to help

I'm not insulting you or trying to offend you. I know you're trying to help. I'm not saying I don't need your help.