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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #140 on: November 06, 2018, 01:43:57 PM »
Okay, so I guess those bots are fine...

Got bored and rebuilt MiniBerg. It's now a popup. 5 razors, Snapper 2 for weapon power, RAD drive, DSA. I built this bot on a different RA2 game I had.
 


This has to be the most BORING rumble ever... my MiniBerg popup getting flipped around by my rebooted Scout bot, Lil' Dog destroyed, and Catfish inverted. MiniBerg hardly landed many hits on Scout. MiniBerg still won the rumble, but I really did not like how boring this fight was.
 
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #141 on: November 07, 2018, 08:30:35 AM »
more MiniBerg popup fights...

This is another rumble. MiniBerg (popup) vs Big Dog (wammer) vs JACKPOT! (poker) vs Grog, the Warrior (side hammer.) All bots are rebooted and this match is MUCH more exciting...
MiniBerg attacking JACKPOT!
 


all 3 remaining bots. JACKPOT is immobilized. MiniBerg gets rammed by rebooted Big Dog.
 




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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #142 on: November 07, 2018, 09:56:38 AM »
more bots... They all have DSA.

a LW HS. Again, it looks like an existing bot so I wanted to change it up a bit.
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Name's Unquenchable 2. There's the original Unquenchable in my second Special Forces pack (not in downloads yet)
Unquenchable 2 in the test garage...
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generic ax head rammer with a wedge. It's not AIed to use the wedge to flip, even though it has a control for it and even a smartzone (this screenshot has the bot without the smartzone attached.)
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HW popup.....and no it's not SpiTe 2.
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LW HS is missing a razor. Rebuild the chassis to remove empty space and you'll save more than enough weight for it. Also the redbirds are probably too high to be effective, it'll just get out-weapon'd by every other 9HS that seems to be commonplace these days or wedged underneath by popups and one shot

Again, rammer could probably benefit from less empty space. Spend the time to cut down on it and you'll have a lot more weight to play with. You could probably also make it shorter, wedge tends to be useless on a pure rammer. No point telling us you've put a smart zone on it either, it really doesn't matter

HW Popup, ramplates are off centre and there isn't nearly enough of them. DDT wedges are better (unless I missed some form of wedge innovation whilst I was gone) and there's still empty space that you could have put into weapons or wedges.

Speaking of weight, how much do any of these actually weigh?? It's unclear

Okay, so I guess those bots are fine...

Got bored and rebuilt MiniBerg. It's now a popup. 5 razors, Snapper 2 for weapon power, RAD drive, DSA. I built this bot on a different RA2 game I had.
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This has to be the most BORING rumble ever... my MiniBerg popup getting flipped around by my rebooted Scout bot, Lil' Dog destroyed, and Catfish inverted. MiniBerg hardly landed many hits on Scout. MiniBerg still won the rumble, but I really did not like how boring this fight was.
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LW popup is fine, you can get away with bigger chassis for the extra hp it allows. Again, if you cut down on space around the components you could make the chassis wedge shallower or even removing razors (you might be overloading the snapper) could help you add more size or width to the wedge.

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #143 on: November 07, 2018, 10:05:35 AM »
If I added another razor to the LW HS, it would have plastic armor and also be a middleweight.

I know. Weird, right? I think an error occurred in the RA2 software that allowed me to have DSA. I'll see if I can fix that to make the bot legal...

The redbirds are angled down to help it hit low opponents.

Thank you for the idea about the HW popup. It has tons of space and DDTS would make the wedges more effective. Also, I'll see if I can cram some more armor in the middle of the popup and move one of the ram plates over. They do look crooked.

the MW is in a rut. It has plenty of power and weapons, and it's in dire need of repairs. It'll likely come back in a different format in the next AI.

I wanted MiniBerg to be as snug as possible. I like your idea of the shallower wedge, but I wanted more weapons.

Thanks for the support!


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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #144 on: November 07, 2018, 10:18:05 AM »
If I added another razor to the LW HS, it would have plastic armor and also be a middleweight.

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I wanted MiniBerg to be as snug as possible. I like your idea of the shallower wedge, but I wanted more weapons.

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[LW HS] Rebuild the chassis to remove empty space

[LW Popup] cut down on space around the components

You're also 8kg underweight on miniberg anyway, no point not using it for something
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #145 on: November 07, 2018, 12:16:29 PM »
Fixed the HS.

Also, I rebuilt Iceberg!
 


It's not too bad- a true PYS popup. 8 stacked razors, 2 stacked supervolts, 3 DDTs, HP ztek drive, DSA.
I fought it against my MiniBerg popup. Apparently MiniBerg proved more wedgy...
 

But Iceberg did more damage as it fired its razors down on MiniBerg.
This is the final hit MiniBerg lands...
 

...Before Iceberg KOs it with a well-placed blow.
 


I made a zipped folder of both stock bots. They're meant to work with the original stock AI bots.
 
enjoy!


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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #146 on: November 07, 2018, 12:23:38 PM »
That's not a pyscolone popup. You need two wedges.


Shrink the chassis. Cloning a pyscolone is a perfect way to learn to make tight chassis. Also, rotate your razors the same way so they all hit at the same time.
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #147 on: November 07, 2018, 12:39:23 PM »
I thought PYS popups had one wedge and 2 DDTS with razors on them.

You're right about the chassis. I need to make it smaller. I just don't want to undo all the stacking that took me 30 min. to complete. On the bright side, I could EEFE those last 2 razors that don't point the same way so they do. Great idea.

I'll keep this in mind...


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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #148 on: November 07, 2018, 12:42:02 PM »
That's not a pyscolone popup. You need two wedges.

you're wrong pysc popups only have one wedge.

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #149 on: November 07, 2018, 01:00:09 PM »
That's not a pyscolone popup. You need two wedges.

you're wrong pysc popups only have one wedge.

How's about we ask Pysycolone (however his name's spelled). He'll know what's true and what's false...


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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #150 on: November 07, 2018, 01:21:00 PM »
That's not a pyscolone popup. You need two wedges.

you're wrong pysc popups only have one wedge.

Oh really? Shows how clouded my 6 year old knowledge is
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #151 on: November 07, 2018, 01:27:47 PM »
Hey, have you tried out the MiniBerg and iceberg popups yet? They're located in a file in one of the posts at the top of this page that you can download.

See if you can beat them with your bots and post screenshots of them!


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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #152 on: November 08, 2018, 12:37:46 PM »
Rebuilt Dementia into a dual-wedge MW popup. So far, so good. 6 razors on a DDT and DSA armor.
 
 


Now, the fights. Dementia managed to deliver heavy blows on Iceberg...
 

...but Iceberg retaliated and destroyed Dementia.
 


Dementia managed to throw 2 opponents up into the air- Lil'Dog and CatFish, which are both rebooted.
 
 


Even more exotic, Dementia destroyed MiniBerg in a matter of seconds!
 


I also created a download for the bot. Here it is.
 


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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #153 on: November 08, 2018, 12:41:35 PM »
competent and everything but putting that much weight on one ddt will lower its damage a lot since it fires way slower. in case you didnt know.

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #154 on: November 08, 2018, 12:47:35 PM »
I've tried this design multiple times. If I added any more razors on it, it would be too much weight, but I think it's damaging as is.

I know one of my popups in my AI pack that's under development, "Treason" uses one DDT with 6 stacked razors on it. I did this with the EEFE glitch, and it does amazing damage.

'You want a bot that has too much weight on a DDT, check out the insides of Green Time Vortex.


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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #155 on: November 08, 2018, 12:59:13 PM »
pretty sure a veteran is going to know what he's talking about with regards to weight on snappers
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #156 on: November 08, 2018, 01:01:38 PM »
im also saying he likely has too many and not too few like he seems to think i said

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #157 on: November 08, 2018, 01:18:48 PM »
There's also another popup with many razors on a single DDT in Inf's AI pack- MagiKK
 


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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #158 on: November 08, 2018, 01:36:18 PM »
you can run 6 razors on a ddt just fine as long as you have the battery life to keep it at full power

that being said the pinks are inefficient compared to the rest of the bats and ddt wedges are a waste of weight at mw level
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #159 on: November 08, 2018, 01:38:08 PM »
you can run 6 razors on a ddt just fine as long as you have the battery life to keep it at full power

Yeah, the Dementia popup has a supervolt and 2 stacked pinks. It lasts a surprisingly long time.