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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #340 on: January 07, 2019, 08:20:07 AM »
Lots of bots coming up!
 

LW hammer...
 

MW hammer bot. Needs a lighter hammer, but devaststing...

This HW rammer uses the two front zteks only to steer, and all six for driving forward and in reverse.
Very cool HS. 247 kg.
 

Hax mode was used in this bot. With that, I've successfully used all the RA2 glitches.
 

Super Tempest never looked better.
 

V.O.Y.D....
 

Dual poker for 2.0...
 

SHW...
 

...I can't count all the irons it has!
 


36 hs. Generic, but deadly.
 

...and yes. I skinned my first components. LW popup like Zenith. 248.6 kg.
 


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #341 on: January 07, 2019, 08:47:57 AM »
I'm gonna ignore the less satisfactory bots and leave those for others to comment.

Your MW popup looks pretty great. I'd suggest swapping out the spike strips for ramplates since the DDTs are pretty exposed. An alternative would be to use the other orientation of the snapper (arm coming out of the rear and hidden AP facing the front) so that the weapon motors are protected by the chassis, but at the cost of a smaller firing arc.

Your Insectoid clone needs a bit more work. The reason it deals a lot of damage is because the ramplates hold the opponent back so the pistons are firing at close to maximum speed before making contact. So either push the weapon system back or the plows forward.

The LW popup can get away with a thinner chassis. Just attach the razors on the snapper2 and axle load the whole thing out so you can squeeze your wedge snapper2 right beside it. I'm unsure if the thinner chassis allows you to extend the wedge by 20cm, but it's worth a shot.
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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #342 on: January 07, 2019, 08:52:21 AM »
I'm gonna ignore the less satisfactory bots and leave those for others to comment.

Your MW popup looks pretty great. I'd suggest swapping out the spike strips for ramplates since the DDTs are pretty exposed. An alternative would be to use the other orientation of the snapper (arm coming out of the rear and hidden AP facing the front) so that the weapon motors are protected by the chassis, but at the cost of a smaller firing arc.

Your Insectoid clone needs a bit more work. The reason it deals a lot of damage is because the ramplates hold the opponent back so the pistons are firing at close to maximum speed before making contact. So either push the weapon system back or the plows forward.

The LW popup can get away with a thinner chassis. Just attach the razors on the snapper2 and axle load the whole thing out so you can squeeze your wedge snapper2 right beside it. I'm unsure if the thinner chassis allows you to extend the wedge by 20cm, but it's worth a shot.

Okay. The LW popup will be rebooted, and the HW poker will be modified so the pistons are further back. (if possible..)
The MW popup weighs 398 kg. so it will be hard to modify it.


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #343 on: January 07, 2019, 12:34:59 PM »
3-wheeled victories are so funny...
 


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #344 on: January 14, 2019, 08:04:56 AM »
More bots!
LW rammer. It uses one motor to steer, making it easy to steer.
 


Really tight poker.
 


HW flipper-like bot. Grest for ramming. Has 3 supervolts. 799.8 kg. (801.8 kg. with SZ)
 


24 razor popup.
 


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #345 on: January 14, 2019, 08:12:12 AM »
Double post... Why? WS!

Building a LW mace WS.

I. Chassis adjusted as shown.
 


II. RAD is up 3 notches. Axle load that RAD, and add a shiny hub wheel.
 


IV. Add the supervolt and blue snapper as shown. Replace the controlboard on top of the supervolt.
     Undo the axle load, and you will get this...
 


V. Add te ztek and extender as shown. Wire it. Add a button titled Spin and a switch titled Activate. Both motors spin clockwise.
   Apply the EFFE glitch and evenly space 6 extenders out as shown. Add a mace to each extender.
 


VI. Undo the EFFE. This is what the completed WS will look like...
 


V. You now have a sufficient amount of weight left to do whatever you wish. Since you already have DSA, don't add titanium.

VI. FINISHED.
   


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #346 on: January 14, 2019, 08:26:32 AM »
If you're going to make a 1WD not (let alone an uncontrollable one) you really should have 9 weapons. You could also mount the drive on the snapper rather than wasting weight on both a snapper and a larger chassis.
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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #347 on: January 14, 2019, 08:37:38 AM »
If you're going to make a 1WD not (let alone an uncontrollable one) you really should have 9 weapons. You could also mount the drive on the snapper rather than wasting weight on both a snapper and a larger chassis.

Yes, and no. WS need to be slightly large to be stable, and mounting a WS drive motor on a snapper causes havok explosions.

On other HS, Yes. It's very efficient. A lot of my bots in 1.0 have drive motors and weapon motors all crammed on a snapper.


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #348 on: January 14, 2019, 09:18:44 AM »
If you're going to make a 1WD not (let alone an uncontrollable one) you really should have 9 weapons. You could also mount the drive on the snapper rather than wasting weight on both a snapper and a larger chassis.
don't question those who know infinitely more than you

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #349 on: January 14, 2019, 09:21:08 AM »
If you're going to make a 1WD not (let alone an uncontrollable one) you really should have 9 weapons. You could also mount the drive on the snapper rather than wasting weight on both a snapper and a larger chassis.
don't question those who know infinitely more than you
Oh sorry, I didn't realise GTM has devolved to memeing even in showcases now?
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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #350 on: January 14, 2019, 09:22:24 AM »
I'm not. just saying talking to brick walls is a waste of breath.

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #351 on: January 14, 2019, 09:27:29 AM »
I'm not. just saying talking to brick walls is a waste of breath.
I'm under the impression other people read these threads so I feel it is still worth pointing things out that could be changed. I certainly spent a lot of time reading through recently active showcases when I was learning.

However, this is rather detracting from my previous point so free to continue this conversation elsewhere if need be.
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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #352 on: January 14, 2019, 09:57:51 AM »
Why do you people think I'm a meme?


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #353 on: January 14, 2019, 10:06:13 AM »
Why do you people think I'm a meme?
because you refuse to listen to people that know more than you and wandering spinners are hilarious

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #354 on: January 14, 2019, 10:06:36 AM »
Building a MW WS

I. Chassis adjusted as shown. Again, you already have DSA, so leave off the armor tab.
 


II. Here's the tricky part- axle loading a Redbird. Redbirds are very difficult to axle-load, so patience is key.
 

Both baseplate anchors are up 3 notches.

III. Add the spinners. Both maces and irons will work on this design.
 

The weapon bar at the front helps defend the motors. It also stabilizes the WS.

IV. Wiring- drive motor spins counterclockwise, and spinner motors rotate clockwise.

V. You now have 30+ kg. to do what you wish with. I added a ballast to keep the back end of the WS down.

VI. DONE.


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #355 on: January 14, 2019, 10:07:17 AM »
Why do you people think I'm a meme?
because you refuse to listen to people that know more than you and wandering spinners are hilarious

True. I should stop underestimating you guys.


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #356 on: January 14, 2019, 03:18:55 PM »
you are wasting so much weight with this garbage extender work and sloppy chassis. you're still getting outweaponed by fury even with the 1wd.

shrink your chassis around your components and get those weapon motors on a snapper. maybe put a plow on it too. those static weapons at the front can't be very good at protection.

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #357 on: January 14, 2019, 03:57:40 PM »
you are wasting so much weight with this garbage extender work and sloppy chassis. you're still getting outweaponed by fury even with the 1wd.

shrink your chassis around your components and get those weapon motors on a snapper. maybe put a plow on it too. those static weapons at the front can't be very good at protection.

Chassis is not sloppy.
I have a WS in Special Forces 2 that uses a tiny chassis and snappers.

Another WS on the way...

Those static weapons are actually really good. A popup got under this bot... tried to hit the underside... and broke BOTH razor assemblies on the static weapons of this WS.


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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #358 on: January 14, 2019, 04:04:01 PM »
chassis 2 big, weapon motors should be snapper boosted, irons suck in that weapon configuration and the rammer part is poorly setup

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Re: Redalert's stock showcase
« Reply #359 on: January 14, 2019, 05:20:20 PM »
You guys seriously need to stop getting so ass blasted. This is a showcase and you're acting immature. Badniks sassy butt hurtedness still cracks me up tho because I can picture him furiously typing this sh** up.

Like I said before red alert, the haters love you and don't wanna see you win. I've already seen bots here with better concepts than anything badnik has built and you're enthusiasm for stock makes me happy. You're gonna be an all time great one day, kid, I see the potential.

Weight and efficiency is very important in stock, especially in the lower weight classes. Whenever you build a bot, take a look at your setups and see if you can use less extenders and connectors and what not. You've already mostly grasped the concept of chassis management, this is the next step.

I'd like to see you revisit the HW poker/Insectoid bot. Take the advice Pwnator suggested and try and make it better. That build alone shows me you can improve.