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Redalert's stock showcase
« on: October 17, 2018, 05:35:49 PM »
I started making Hardcore bots after I started seeing how to build them. Soon after that, I built my first hardcore bot- a 500kg. popup named, "Black Dragon." Sorry there's no picture available!

Another early bot I built is shown below- Yuki.
 

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2018, 05:47:47 PM »
Make sure you insert your attachments after adding them to your post.

The bot you posted looks good for a beginner. It would help if we could see the insides. Without that, the best advice I can give is to always build to a weight limit. Other HWs will have 300kg more weaponry/armour/batteries/drive/whatever than your 500kg bot, putting you at a disadvantage.
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2018, 06:02:55 PM »
You'll notice how much my bots have improved if you crack open bots like Trench Drill in the bot exchange (This is one I made), and NIGHT FURY in the Special Forces pack I inserted in the Bots file in Downloads. Give those two a shot.

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2018, 06:20:41 PM »
Most folks are not going to go through the effort of downloading your bots to give you feedback. Please get some screenshots and follow the guide to upload them properly. I promise it's super easy once you've done it once.


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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2018, 07:44:30 PM »
^what he said
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2018, 12:30:44 PM »
Sounds good. Hopefully, next time I play RA2, I can get the screenshot function to work, so I can post more of my designs.

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2018, 03:20:24 PM »
This bot was built for my Special Forces pack. Its name is BLACK LIGHTNING.
the computer this bot was built on didn't have a screenshot function, so I took an picture of the bot with a different camera.
 

3 supervolts, 14 razors, 2 irons, 4 HPztek drive, 4DDTS and a Snapper2 for the weapons, double-strength titanium. The bot originally weighed 799.8 kg, but I added a smartzone, and it now weighs 801.8 kg.

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2018, 03:49:49 PM »
I'm not an expert on Stock, but I reckon that's pretty good for a beginner. Generally, smart zones aren't counted when it comes to weight, so your robot would be 799.8kg.
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2018, 04:20:24 PM »
Not bad for a beginner. Just something for next time, you can take in-game screenshots by hitting F11 on your keyboard which will save your taken screenshot to the game's screenshot folder.

As for the bot itself, you don't need three supervolts to power your bot, two will be enough to provide the power that you need for a heavyweight, the third is just a waste of weight. You can also save some weight by resizing the chassis in the area where the drive motors are. In case you struggle in fitting two supervolts in, you can try to stack the batteries together to save some room for an additional snapper 2 for an extra feeder wedge. I would also remove the snapper 2 that connect to the two iron spikes, since if you are making a traditional pop-up, iron spikes aren't exactly viable for a pop-up, due to the damage collision area being at the tip instead of all around like the razor. With the weight that you saved, you can add in another Weapon motor, some more razors or the extra snapper 2 for another feeder wedge.

For the rest of the weapon set-up it's not in any means bad. But I would recommend getting another feeder wedge onto your bot. Having one feeder wedge is fine for maybe a lightweight or a middleweight, but most heavyweights will often have at least two feeder wedges will ensure a better chance at getting under opponents better than having the single wedge, but also to use up the weight limit. So replace the blue snapper with snapper 2s, due to the end snapper part being able to reach much lower to the chassis, allowing for a much better wedge ground clearance. You should read this for a few more tips on snapper wedges: http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm#wedges

This is a lot to take in by the amount that when into this post. Sure it looks all daunting with all these words of advice, but if you take one step at a time, you can see an improvement between your older bots and your newer bots. If a little more advice on stacking and glitches, you should look here: https://gametechmods.com/forums/tutorials-and-tips/ra2-stacking-and-using-glitches-to-build/

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2018, 04:48:58 PM »
Thanks! that'll help a lot.

I know I got the idea for numerous batteries from bot like Ultimate Spammer, which actually has more batteries than my popup.

Also, the 2 irons have actually broken a couple of spinners, but I think putting them out further will make the irons inflict more damage.

Nowadays, my HW popups don't use blue snappers. They use DDTS.

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2018, 04:54:59 PM »
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As for the bot itself, you don't need three supervolts to power your bot, two will be enough to provide the power that you need for a heavyweight, the third is just a waste of weight.
four ddts 100% need 3 blacks

also custom armors in stock are a big no no
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2018, 05:22:48 PM »
True. If I had tons of space for weapons left, I would've stuck with DSA.

 But the main thing that came out at me, was that I was fighting Ultimate Spammer one time, and it KOed a fellow popup with DSA in 1 hit. I don't know if this was that the popup I was partnering up with didn't actually have DSA, or that Ultimate Spammer landed a good shot on it. When Ultimate Spammer, struck BLACK LIGHTNING in the same exact spot, it only damaged half of its armor bar. I looked in the bot file and noticed I had Double strength titanium. This was how BLACK LIGHTNING destroyed Ultimate Spammer.

Another point would be if I had a HUGE chassis, where DSA was the best option.

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2018, 08:58:01 PM »
y extenders are a waste of weight and theres no reason to use them

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2018, 10:30:01 PM »
True. If I had tons of space for weapons left, I would've stuck with DSA.

 But the main thing that came out at me, was that I was fighting Ultimate Spammer one time, and it KOed a fellow popup with DSA in 1 hit. I don't know if this was that the popup I was partnering up with didn't actually have DSA, or that Ultimate Spammer landed a good shot on it. When Ultimate Spammer, struck BLACK LIGHTNING in the same exact spot, it only damaged half of its armor bar. I looked in the bot file and noticed I had Double strength titanium. This was how BLACK LIGHTNING destroyed Ultimate Spammer.

Another point would be if I had a HUGE chassis, where DSA was the best option.
You can't get double strength titanium unless you use a chassis from the stock AI  or BFE
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2018, 01:19:51 AM »
Atleast you know now how to bfe armor strength.
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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2018, 08:42:40 AM »
What really gave me the idea for the extender setup was the  fact that the Y connector is IN the chassis, and if one of the black extender couplings gets torn off, I still have the other. It's also a good way to distrubute spikes to the whole bot, so there's no "blind spot."

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2018, 09:30:52 AM »
I'm currently working on my first hardcore AI pack, so that I can also fight hardcore computer robots. (Honestly, most of the Real Robotics AI pack bots are easy to defeat by now, excluding Endurance and Dude.)

I plan to post some designs from that pack soon.

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2018, 09:54:29 AM »
I'm currently working on my first hardcore AI pack, so that I can also fight hardcore computer robots. (Honestly, most of the Real Robotics AI pack bots are easy to defeat by now, excluding Endurance and Dude.)

I plan to post some designs from that pack soon.

I'd recommend you post with the bots instead of just saying there will be something soon

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Re: Redalert's bots showcase
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2018, 09:59:57 AM »
I'm currently working on my first hardcore AI pack, so that I can also fight hardcore computer robots. (Honestly, most of the Real Robotics AI pack bots are easy to defeat by now, excluding Endurance and Dude.)

I plan to post some designs from that pack soon.
try WeNAI 0.11, try to beat some of my bots, also agree with hoppin.

also Y-Connecter are waste of weight and there is not reason to use them.