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« Reply #120 on: May 18, 2008, 08:41:55 PM »
Indeed. The problem is, we've kinda already peaked with hammers in real life. No hammer could dish out hits faster than Deadblow, and I've yet to see ANY hammer nearly as powerful as The Judge.
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« Reply #121 on: May 18, 2008, 10:37:09 PM »
dont forget about killerhurtz or overkill!

or my personal favorite who never got any love...frenZy<3
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« Reply #122 on: May 19, 2008, 07:41:29 AM »
Yes, i like Frenzy and Killerhurtz the most.

The problem is that a shorter hammer is less range, so it cant really pass beyond frontal weapons (rammers, HS) to reach the top of the bot.

This said, I could change the design of the weapon arm. Perhaps a forked arm or another  weapon/arm angle other than 90°. Or add a few more spikes at the ram.

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« Reply #123 on: May 19, 2008, 11:18:18 AM »
Another bot. LW VS (the first in that weight class excepted the BW), introducing Ash Devil. Its the first version.



It has 3 pinks for power and is pretty decent in combat, excepted the majority of HS, he sucks when fighting an HS.

Any ideas to improve it? I know that the chassis could be smaller, but... what else?

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« Reply #124 on: May 19, 2008, 08:47:49 PM »
Point of redbirds? Point of snapper when u can attach those with baseplates? Just.... pointing things out.

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« Reply #125 on: May 19, 2008, 09:11:38 PM »
Yea use two baseplates instead of brust II. Is this the minimal high of chassis ? if not make it lowest as posible ! Why dont stack the 3 pinks in one? And you can small the chassis A LOT after this and with all these things maybe you will have weight for 2 irons or use 2 pointy tips if not...
Is the VS as lowest as posible? And i think will be out of power very fast...Maybe try zteck instead of HP zteck...
But forget it no matter how you improved it will be still weak so abound this...Like you say Hs beat you...
And pleas evry time post bots at least from 2 diferent angels...cos from this pic i cant see well the Z dimension...

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« Reply #126 on: May 20, 2008, 12:22:35 AM »
Get rid of the pinks, and use a nifty. It's 8 kgs lighter and it puts out more power than the 3 pinks. Minimize the chassis height/width, and use a single baseplate anchor instead of a snapper to mount the snowplow and blade. This might also give you enough weight to add 2 more iron spikes.

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« Reply #127 on: May 20, 2008, 04:18:30 AM »
watch the words man. but your right about that being its weakness. however i think you should ditch the redbrids and put z tecs for the drive. you also might be able to lose the extender at the back by moving the anchor to the wall. it takes a few trys but it dose work. if you go with the ztecs then you might have to move the sides of the frame in so that it will not hit the motors. the reason for the ztecs is that the whole back is exposed and you need a quick motor to keep it away from your opponents.
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« Reply #128 on: May 20, 2008, 07:12:22 AM »
Quote from: infiniteinertia;8236
dont forget about killerhurtz or overkill!

or my personal favorite who never got any love...frenZy<3


Ah, I forgot about them! I fondly remember frenZy as the first bot to ever get beaten to a pulp by Nightmare...

Anyone remember Killerhurtz's follow0up, Terrorhurtz? That was a mean axe.
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« Reply #129 on: May 20, 2008, 01:58:18 PM »
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There is NO perfect design!


See: Absolute Chaos
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« Reply #130 on: May 20, 2008, 03:04:56 PM »
OK. Thanks to the feedback from you guys, i've built a second version of my LW VS



IDK why, but he fairs largely better against HS. As expected, a little weaker against popups.

Stacking that control board into the Nifty was a damn good PitA.

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« Reply #131 on: May 20, 2008, 03:06:48 PM »
i like it man. it should beat bithc slap. lol
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« Reply #132 on: May 20, 2008, 03:07:49 PM »
That is a definite improvement.

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« Reply #133 on: May 20, 2008, 04:29:52 PM »
Huh. I rebuilded the LW clone of my MW hammer/rammer. Less efficient in the weight class I think, but still won against Tempus Fugit for his second fight. (lost to him for his first, but I was discovering this bot's driving)


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« Reply #134 on: May 20, 2008, 04:37:05 PM »
I am a big fan of rammer/hammer hybrids, as they offset each other's weaknesses, and your's look very effective. Make a HW next!

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« Reply #135 on: May 20, 2008, 05:47:54 PM »
Its ok now... but PLEASE post 2 pics for every bot and its better the second to be from exactly the left or right of the bot...
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« Reply #136 on: May 20, 2008, 05:54:31 PM »
You dont need 2 pictures to have a global view of that bot because he's fairly simple. It is symmetrical excepted for the hammer, of course.

Nope, he obviously didn't talked about your bot.

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« Reply #137 on: May 20, 2008, 05:55:07 PM »
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Is he means my The infinite or this Absolute Chaos is some bot that i never seen, if is this please send me link 'cos i want to see this perfect bot right now !!!...


He's kidding man :P. Though Absolute Chaos is probably one of the best bots ever built, it's still beatable. That being said, it would be a feat worth mentioning in the RA2 wiki or something.

Anyways, the HS is much better than the first design, and as for the Hammer/rammer, switch the places of the wheels and the battery. This should improve handling.

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« Reply #138 on: May 20, 2008, 05:58:21 PM »
You mean the VS...

Well, the major problem with Tip of Violence (the LW ram/ham) is that he cant drive in a straight line. But ill consider swapping wheels and battery. Why does it improves handling, btw?

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« Reply #139 on: May 20, 2008, 06:03:33 PM »
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He's kidding man :P. Though Absolute Chaos is probably one of the best bots ever built, it's still beatable. That being said, it would be a feat worth mentioning in the RA2 wiki or something.

Anyways, the HS is much better than the first design, and as for the Hammer/rammer, switch the places of the wheels and the battery. This should improve handling.


i made a version with less exposed motors. anything can be improved. and the definition of perfect can be changed. do you mean "hardest to beat" or "best built/compact" or "coolest looking"?

and is something beatable if it hasnt been beaten?
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