Author Topic: Mystic2000 crap showcase (Read 30533 times)

Mystic2000 · « **on:** October 28, 2012, 06:31:56 PM »

Hello everyone i am Mystic2000 and i am a RA2 player since 2-3 weeks i gonna show you my bots i have already built and the news ones i gonna create in this showcase i am french so my english is not so good i hope i will be not hated by some members due to some building failures (i suck at building compared to what pros can done)

Here is Disc of doom he proved effective only against stock AI but flippers are his worst nightmare (scrimech not works good) and is having zero chassis protection, one of my first ever bots

090901 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:35:38 PM »

Can you make your picture bigger, we can't tell what is in your robot really.

Mystic2000 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:48:24 PM »

Better now ?

Mr. AS · « **Reply #3 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:57:24 PM »

dont worry about your bots being "failiures" when you start a showcase. we'll guide you from making bots like this:

to stuff like this:

if i can improve like that, surely you will be able to in given time

on the bot: you would really focus all of your weaponry to the front, 99% of bots are not ai'd to attack your rear, and the one ai file that does make it so it attacks your rear doesnt work iirc. that said if you just make your bot invertable instead of having a srimech you could have more weapons and thus be able to do more damage

more stuff can be found here http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm

Mystic2000 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:03:17 PM »

Thank you for the invertibility tip i'm gonna do a 2.0 version of disc of doom and this is gonna be nasty >=)

G.K. · « **Reply #5 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:08:36 PM »

Hi mate! Always good to see new people making showcases.

From the off, there are plenty of things I can see you can do to improve your bots significantly. People will no doubt link you to a load of stuff but I think it best if we take things bit by bit. So here's a few pointers to work from.

1 - Build to the weight limit. You may find it hard to use up all 800kg, especially at first, but you should endeavor to. But not just with anything you can throw on it. One of the most important things when building a horizontal spinner if having more weapons than your opponent. In your bot, there is the best part of 200kg free that you could use for more weapons. Use that extra weight to make your bot more powerful.

2 - Build the chassis around the components. What it seems you've done is made a standard cuboid chassis and thought 'what can I put in this chassis?'. Now you know what you are trying to include on your bot, design a chassis which those components will fit in but has as little extra space as possible. What this does is reduces useless weight usage, as a bigger chassis weighs more, allowing you to invest in weapons, armour, drive or anything really.

3 - Have all your weapons in one direction. As Mr Awesomesauce said, it is rare that you will be attacked from anything but your front, as long as it is your front that is pointing at the opponent. As such, you should be focusing on having your weapons all facing forwards as well. Either lose that face spinner on the redbird or make it face forward.

This is only the tip of the iceberg of the tips we can give, but once you grasp these we can move onto more.

Fracture · « **Reply #6 on:** October 28, 2012, 08:49:53 PM »

Use red or black 20 cm extenders to attach more than just four weapons on a disc. You can also save weight by using Iron Spikes instead of Sledgehammers (same damage) and Shiny Hub wheels instead of Fatboys (all wheels are the same except for size and weight).

We actually have a moderator on this forum from France, Naryar. If you need any translating or explanation you two can figure something out through PM.

Mystic2000 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 29, 2012, 02:14:25 AM »

Fracture i'm always scared of my oponnent ripping off the extender, and the wheels i used are mud tires, not fatboys but i gonna change for rubber ones
EDIT: Here is the new Disc of doom

YES i am seriously underweight but i concentrate myself on important things such as remove empty space, make the robot invertible and remove the useless face spinner at the back

Naryar · « **Reply #8 on:** October 29, 2012, 04:08:35 AM »

Hey man ! It's good to see another french here.

Your bot isn't too bad for a starter, but you'll have to improve.

You don't get hated for having bad bots : that's what most newbies have. What you do get hated for, however, is being annoying, obnoxious, not listening to advice, or being arrogant when you have no building skill. So just listen to advice and you'll get by fine.

You might want to read these tutorials : http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm

Mystic2000 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 29, 2012, 04:45:35 AM »

thank you i gonna post my popup after some work on it
EDIT: here it is my popup Hell Raiser

he defeats someof the Starcore bots, but his protectionless wedge is a problem

G.K. · « **Reply #10 on:** October 29, 2012, 04:48:53 AM »

That's good learning!

You will no doubt wish to bring your bot up to the weight limit now. Before I say do this, or do that, we should find out what you want from this bot.

Do you want a bots with loads of weapons on several discs? Do you want it to have a wedge? When you get up to 800kg, what else would you like to see on it?

If you want to work on the popup as well, then that's cool.

Mystic2000 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2012, 04:19:28 AM »

Any comments for my popup ?
Otherwise here is my rupt flipper: Dead rupter

Naryar · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2012, 04:24:32 AM »

You don't really need a srimech for rupters.

Use smaller wheels. all Stock wheels are the same apart from size and weight.

Build so your chassis is the smallest possible while still encompassing all the components.

Get your flippers outside the chassis so you may have a chance to get under other wedges.

Build to weight limit : 249.0, 399.0 or 799.0.

Otherwise it's pretty ok.

Mystic2000 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2012, 04:57:15 AM »

Using your tips Naryar i made Dead rupter 2

Avalanche · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2012, 05:06:34 AM »

Im not sure but i think thats overpowered.Also naryar for once is wrong on the srimech.Make sure you have a non rupting srimech so you can selfright properly, as otherwise its screwed if flipped over.

Naryar · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2012, 05:32:33 AM »

Quote from: Avalanche on October 30, 2012, 05:06:34 AM

Im not sure but i think thats overpowered.Also naryar for once is wrong on the srimech.Make sure you have a non rupting srimech so you can selfright properly, as otherwise its screwed if flipped over.

Yes it is overpowered, and yes you can selfright with your rupters. You just need to do it right.

Mystic2000 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2012, 08:32:02 AM »

Here is my first Rammer, Beast From Darkness:

heres an insides view

and 1 thing is sure about this bot: IT HURTS

Wacky Bob · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2012, 08:41:47 AM »

You've got the right idea for connecting weapons on extenders like that, but round ones can save weight for more weapons. Right now, you have a lot of weight left anyway.

Mystic2000 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 30, 2012, 08:49:59 AM »

i used the square one for easily get the side connection points at the right way

Jack Daniels · « **Reply #19 on:** October 30, 2012, 09:22:31 AM »

It also helps if you make the chassis as low as possible so that it can drive while upside down (i.e. Invertible) If that bot gets flipped, it's done.

An efficient bot (of that design) has a low enough chassis where those shiny wheels can touch the ground either way.