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Title: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on April 19, 2010, 10:53:51 AM
Well, hi all, nice to be here. I have been browsing and looking at other showcases, and I have decided to make my own. The first robot I am posting I think is bad, but I like the concept and I would like to improve it. The names not very original either :P
Presenting....The Block From Hell (or TBFH for short:P)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/81916Blocky.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/32968Blocky inside.PNG)

Be as criticising as you like :P

Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: G.K. on April 19, 2010, 10:58:43 AM
Quite a nice concept you have there. Craaig has been teaching you well. :P

How many black batteries does it have and what is the armour?
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: cephalopod on April 19, 2010, 11:02:04 AM
Craaig has been teaching you well. :P

Why thank you :P
I won't comment on the bot, he's heard it all before basically :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on April 19, 2010, 11:03:04 AM
1 black battery and a couple pink ones thrown in there somewhere

The armour be DSA :D
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: NFX on April 19, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
Yeah, that's not gonna be enough. Lose the pinks and try to double stack the Blackvolts. If you're REALLY lucky, you might get a triple stack, I did that with the Nifty once. =)
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on April 19, 2010, 01:58:28 PM
Well, I managed to stack a nifty there instead- with a supervolt i dont have enough weight to add my snowplough, lol. It gave me 8.2kg, so i added a pink (good idea?:P). I could stack a supervolt if i lost the casters, though.
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: Badnik96 on April 19, 2010, 02:41:43 PM
Get rid of the rear discs ( they won't hit anything there) And shrink the chassis. Also you don't need the snowplow.Add more spikes to the front discs and snapper load them to increase speed.
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on April 19, 2010, 03:21:45 PM
ok, I will try to work on it tomorrow after school, coursework permitting. I have tried snapper loading before, having watched the videos on how, but I can't quite seem to crack it. Ill try again and see what happens :D
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: Sage on April 19, 2010, 03:24:32 PM
I should redo my original snapper loading video with voice to make it easier to understand. Sorry bout that.
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on April 19, 2010, 03:29:15 PM
I think it was more me than the video, but that would be a great help for me and everybody who doesnt know how :D

Don't worry too much about it though :)
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: NFX on April 19, 2010, 04:31:13 PM
I think the theory of the back discs might be if the bot tips over onto its back, then the snowplow scoops them up into them. I'm not sure if it'll work, the snowplow seems to be attached the wrong way. But getting back to the BlackVolt stacking, replace the Iron Spikes with Razors (less weight, pretty much equal performance), then you should have enough weight left to get two BlackVolts in there.
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: Naryar on April 20, 2010, 03:02:51 AM
It's really messy but better than the average newbie bot.

Should be invertible.
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: Reier on April 20, 2010, 10:35:42 AM
^^ One heck of a swell compliment there Nary
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on April 28, 2010, 12:12:39 PM
Well, i gave up on The block from heck, but ive come up with a way better bot, that im quite proud of :D

Presenting....Mouldy Cheese!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40249Mouldy cheese splash.PNG)

The image aint that great, but it was tea time and i was in a rush :P

Armour:DSA
Power:1 black, 1 nifty and 1 pink (pinks to get to the weight limit, mainly)
Weapons:8 maces

Enjoy :D
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: G.K. on April 28, 2010, 12:15:36 PM
For a start, that's the best Mouldy Cheese I've seen in these parts *shudders at prospect of WTT teammate*

Once again, a quite interesting concept. I'll let the pro stock builders give you advice. I wouldn't know where to start.
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on April 28, 2010, 12:24:45 PM
What is it?
Juggler?
Angled HS?
Angles VS?
Halp, it's confusing! *Dies*
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on April 28, 2010, 12:56:42 PM
I dunno, but it sort of juggles, and it was meant to be a vs...so an angled vs juggler? Or thing for for short?:P
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: Sparkey98 on April 28, 2010, 01:47:35 PM
How the heckl did it beat NWB?
 
GOOD WORK
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on April 28, 2010, 02:32:55 PM
Hahaha......It was a fluke. The first time it fought NWB, it beat it. Ive fought it about 20 times since, and its only won again once, lol. Clockwork hydra, alien queen and some robots like that its better against, though it is morbidly afraid of NWB and HS XD
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: Badnik96 on April 28, 2010, 02:35:11 PM
Not nearly enough weaponry on that bot. You should learn to AI, so you can really see your bot's effectiveness.
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on April 28, 2010, 02:40:18 PM
I'm planning to, twill show me how bad it really is :P

And i think I will redo the whole thing with more weaponry sometime, doesn't kill things quite quick enough for my liking.
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: G.K. on April 28, 2010, 02:42:08 PM
Probably a good idea. Reier has a LW that outweapons you.

Expand the chassis slightly to fit the HPZ's in the chassis, use shiny hub wheels, get rid of the wheel guards, and there should be some weight available.
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on April 28, 2010, 02:46:37 PM
I am a peaceful person by nature, hence the lack of weapons *cough*

I'll do it tommorrow after school, i need a break from RA2 today XD

Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on May 04, 2010, 01:31:29 PM
Sorry about the double post, but here is the reworked version of mouldy cheese :)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/6011Splash!.PNG)

The fights with rabid pit bull are quite funny....drive straight into it, weapons spinning, i kill all of its razors just before it kills me, so i can kill it. Really lucky, I think :P

It also seems to have HSphobia, NWBphobia and is evenly matched against VS's. With me driving it, anyways.

Be as criticizing as you like :D
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on May 04, 2010, 01:34:27 PM
Weight?
Needs armour.
Plow does nothing
Use SnapperII(not 2)'s to mount weapons.
Try and fit DDT wedges on.
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on May 04, 2010, 01:41:43 PM
Darn, knew i forgot something. Its 790.something, which bugs me.

I left the plow there form the earlier concept and forgot to take it off. Replace it with some armour, methinks.

How do you get the snapper II's?

And DDT's wont fit. :)

Thanks for the advice :)


Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on May 04, 2010, 01:45:10 PM
*Enter JoeBlo with shameless link to his website*
(Which I recommend btw in exchange for him giving me a better way to say happy birthday)
EDIT: Wrong time for that
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: NFX on May 04, 2010, 04:18:21 PM
Remove the plow from the back, and you've got enough weight to stick a ramplate on the front for defense against those pesky HS's. =)
Title: Re: Martymidget's showcase (Noob time:P)
Post by: martymidget on July 07, 2010, 11:08:09 AM
Buuump

Since I am planning on entering the best bot builder, might as well showcase my stock failbot to see how it can be improved, as my DSL bot works well.

DSA, called Meh.
Probable Problems (:P) are that the Z-tek cant spin 96 kg per tribar fast enough, the DDT's for the wedges are too far back (cos thy wedges sucketh) and..pinks due to not being able to fit a black anywhere. The main solution I have is to make it 2WD to make room for a black or 2, take off 6 maces and pinks, and add another tribar, or improve the front armour. Course, if any of this will make the bot fail more, tell me :P

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/83829Outside.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57913Inside 1.PNG)

Does OK in Starcore 3. But only OK.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on July 07, 2010, 11:17:57 AM
Pinks = :fail:
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 07, 2010, 11:20:31 AM
They were the only batteries which fitted with my current setup. They are the main thing I want to deal with. And yes, they are fail :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on July 07, 2010, 11:23:07 AM
Remake the chassis?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 07, 2010, 11:28:37 AM
Done it about 6 times today to get different aspects of the bot to work. And I really can't be bothered to do it again, as I am feeling very impatient today as the effeing takes too long  for my taste . XD
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: 40757 on July 07, 2010, 01:07:35 PM
Just remake the chassis. I would also suggest not using maces on that as it will make it wobble more which is not a good thing on a gut-ripper.


Ramplates would also be better for protection than lawnmower blades.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Badnik96 on July 07, 2010, 06:03:13 PM
Maybe remake the chassis so you can fit the motors on a snapper? That might fix the motors going slow.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on July 08, 2010, 01:57:59 PM
Fail T Connector is Fail.

I suggest moving the forwardmost pair of HP Z-Teks to the edge of the bot, and having the shinies be on the outside, like with the other two. Then you've easily got enough space in there to stack some blacks.

Also, maybe try and work an extender setup so you only need one DDT. Since they're only there for getting under bots and not actually flipping them, am I right?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 14, 2010, 02:52:44 PM
EDIT:Ignore that, I appear to have just done it, through random luck, lol.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 14, 2010, 04:05:58 PM
Well, I have done something with that bot. To be improved on later with what advice I get. But this is what i have atm. DSA.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/91519Splash.PNG)
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: JoeBlo on July 14, 2010, 11:53:38 PM
to start off simply I would remove the mower blade and razor and use a one of the long Barbour Blade's to protect your wedge
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 23, 2010, 10:45:54 AM
I got bored. Really bored. So I fired up stock and tried to make a better version of that thing in the style I intended it to be like.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/2843Its friend..PNG)

Wedges seem to be good as NWB cant outwedge it. Needs a little tweaking and could then get under NWB (possibly). Also needs a name and stuff. I'm concerned, however, that 2 blacks isn't enough power for the bot (because I have no idea how batteries in stock work:P) The tribars counter rotate, the left (facing you) going anti-clock and the right going clock :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Badnik96 on July 23, 2010, 10:50:00 AM
Seems OK.

Try to get the spinners to spin inwards.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on July 23, 2010, 11:27:16 AM
Looks okay, but rotate the extenders 90 degrees, to get the iron spikes above each other, like this:

X
X

Rather than this:

XX

You will strike the opponent with two time the amount of spikes for every hit, so you whould deal twice as much damage on a clean hit.

I'm pretty sure, with a little bit of tweaking to the setup and placement at the front, you could mount the motors internally, and neglect the need for snappers to mount them on. You could also have 3 irons on each tribar arm, if you use a similar attachment to Absolute Chaos, connecting the extenders in an L shape.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 24, 2010, 01:49:01 PM
Iron setup better?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30234Its friend2.PNG)

AI-ing, then testing against Starcore 4 AI. Might get Pys AI and put them into one large pack for easy fighting. XD
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Sage on July 24, 2010, 02:01:28 PM
what are the wedge blockers for?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 24, 2010, 02:03:46 PM
No actual idea, to be honest. Just had no other ideas about what I could use the remaining weight for (11.6kg).
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on July 24, 2010, 02:13:27 PM
Iron setup's much better. ;)

But with the wedge and wedge blockers there, the snowplow seems kinda pointless, tbh. And you seem to be arching your machine off the ground with your wedge angle.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 24, 2010, 04:06:35 PM
But with the wedge and wedge blockers there, the snowplow seems kinda pointless, tbh.
Snowplough protects the bot from HS for a bit :P

And you seem to be arching your machine off the ground with your wedge angle.

Maybe, but it outwedges a lot of SC4 bots effectively.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on July 24, 2010, 04:37:33 PM
From the front, you should be fine, but from the side you'll probably get owned
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 24, 2010, 04:50:11 PM
Of course. :P

It is probably my Best Bot Builder Entry for stock :P

Just to be different. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 25, 2010, 10:57:27 AM
So, I've AIed it and tested it out (and named it.) Here is a splash showing you some of its victories in SC4.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51729Its friend Splash.PNG)

Coming to the next tourney I enter. :P

Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 16, 2010, 06:06:21 AM
Time for an amazingly inartistic splash, featuring my first attempt at the stock popup, which has an amazingly unoriginal name. Normally I hate popups, but the HS in stock were getting on my nerves, so I made a popup to try and kill them. (I failed.:P)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/27145Splashy type thing yo.PNG)

Has some awesomely tacky extender work on the sides, but I had no ideas what to do with the remaining 12 or so KG (Casters *cough*).

Has 10 razors, a fact which was on the splash but I must have covered it with the SpiTe 2 screenshot. :P Could do with better smartzone placement.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on August 16, 2010, 06:10:19 AM
Grannies usually make your wedges worse. Try to get shinies or, even better, rubbers on. 4 blacks are overkill, 2 or 3 would suffice. Turn your Z-teks 90 degrees so that they flush with the floor. Also, use ramplates instead of mower blades.

Other than that, not bad. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 16, 2010, 06:21:48 AM
Tried Shinies and Rubbers, but with them it barely drives. Can't turn the Z-teks as they are using the side attachment point XD

The way I have the anchors set up, mower blades provide a lot more protection than a ramplate would XD

Would 2 Blacks be enough? Then I could add more razors and more front protection<:D

EDITORIO: (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/77055Slightly updated.PNG)

2 Blacks, 20 razors on two DDTS. Possibly overkill on the weapons and underkill on the batteries, but lack of battery power doesnt matter if the match finishes in about 20 seconds, right?:P Oh, and the ballast is there because I had no idea what to do that wouldnt affect the weight distribution. Tempted to put another control board on the other black instead of the baseplate anchor. If only I could skin its name on the front..oh well :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on August 16, 2010, 12:18:19 PM
Time for an amazingly inartistic splash, featuring my first attempt at the stock popup, which has an amazingly unoriginal name. Normally I hate popups, but the HS in stock were getting on my nerves, so I made a popup to try and kill them.

Sounds exactly like what inspired R4.
 
 
Grannies usually make your wedges worse. Try to get shinies or, even better, rubbers on. 4 blacks are overkill, 2 or 3 would suffice. Turn your Z-teks 90 degrees so that they flush with the floor. Also, use ramplates instead of mower blades.

From what I can remember, wheel diameter has little effect on wedges. There's a lot of useful stuff about wedges in this thread: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,1215.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,1215.0.html) courtesy of Clickbeetle. This should help.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on August 16, 2010, 01:13:37 PM
I got told on one of my bots that grannies make your wedges worse... Oh well. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on August 16, 2010, 02:01:16 PM
I'm sure I was told that grannies make wedges worse.

And you could make a decal in something like Paint.NET, and import it into the game. But it MUST be a 64x64 TGA file, either 12 or 16kb. Otherwise it gets screwed up.

Try moving the baseplate anchors down and forward a little bit, and turn the mower blades horizontally. Or swap them with ramplates if you feel like it.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 16, 2010, 02:13:48 PM
I know all about the decals....I used them on the F1 car. :P

But atm I'm starting to get tired of trying to stack a control bored (hehe:P) in between 2 blacks for Soulreaver's HW popup buddy. Other setups I've tried affect the weight distro badly and it gets outwedged by Soulreaver each time. Or I could stack the 2 blacks and control board together. Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh...
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 17, 2010, 05:33:21 AM
DP, how I love you. :D

Here is the finished sister popup for soulreaver..

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56475Heartwrencher.PNG)

Much more generic, but idc. Not the version with the airtight chassis- that BOT file got slightly corrupted when I tried to BFE a control Board in the batteries. Haha. This one was much easier to build :D Smartzone placement next, something I have never got off to a fine art..
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on August 17, 2010, 05:36:50 AM
Isn't 5 razors on a Snapper2 kinda overkill?

LOL @ last line in the splash. XD
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 17, 2010, 06:04:36 AM
I don't think so, as it does OHKO some bots in testing:P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 17, 2010, 06:32:15 AM
The armour has weak extenders just asking to be hit
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 17, 2010, 07:52:28 AM
That is no longer the case :D

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55517Heartwrencher V2.PNG)

Now uses snapper wedges, each snapper has a 10kg Ballast near the front. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on August 17, 2010, 07:56:09 AM
Sweeet.

The next step is to have a shallower chassis wedge to make things easier for your bot (plus that helps against HSes as well).
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 17, 2010, 07:59:33 AM
I did have that on the first chassis I tried for the bot. Airtight, a little shallower and everything. But then I tried to do some BFE'ing (control board in between two blacks because my copy of RA2 dislikes stacking.) and failed. XD

I've still got it though, but the file is all meh n stuff. XD
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Somebody on August 17, 2010, 08:00:58 AM
Whats with the random Baseplate Connector?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 17, 2010, 08:03:14 AM
Aha, that was to use up the rest of the weight. But its not there anymore :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 19, 2010, 05:16:07 AM
Guess what.......

Yep, another popup. But this time I actually put a little effort into the splash.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/20582Large Fish Amuse Me.PNG)

DSA, 14 Razors on two DDTS, DDT wedges, 3 blacks. Moderately wedgy. And yes, that is the bots name.

Next I've got an idea for a triple hybrid...lets see if I can do it well enough. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 19, 2010, 05:26:58 AM
Those bracket wedges look easy to knock off with those exposed extenders, try replacing them with 2 ramplates
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on August 19, 2010, 05:39:26 AM
If it's meant to be an anti-wedge, it's fine. It's not like a wedge can still hit those extenders (unless it's a hammer, but I don't think it will still happen). :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 19, 2010, 05:44:37 AM
I've replaced them with lawnmower blades, which are less vulnerable as there are no extenders and serve the same purpose. Its wedginess also seems to have improved. :P May add Inf AI to my RA2 later and see how it does there.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 19, 2010, 04:00:15 PM
Well, I tried to make a triple hybrid (Side Popup, Normal popup, Undercutting HS) but I don't have the skillz yet. :P I suppose this next bot is a side popup/popup hybrid, if they can be considered different bot types :S (which would make the triple one pointless:P).

The empty space is there between the snappers as I had originally planned for DDT wedges and Normal popup part on DDTS. 2 Blacks.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/6698Splashy thingy.PNG)


Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Somebody on August 19, 2010, 04:03:40 PM
Looks cool.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: J on August 19, 2010, 05:22:21 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/6698Splashy thingy.PNG)
I like the outward razors.
Nice idea there.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Sage on August 19, 2010, 05:36:20 PM
(unless it's a hammer, but I don't think it will still happen). :P

Yea, what kind of a noob would build a hammer?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on August 20, 2010, 02:52:43 AM
(unless it's a hammer, but I don't think it will still happen). :P

Yea, what kind of a noob would build a hammer?

(https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/images/f/f9/Gauntlet.jpg)

:P

And I like the hybrid. I never wanted to build a double burst hybrid because I would spend too much time finding the perfect spot for the SZ. XD
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Avalanche on August 20, 2010, 03:20:48 AM
Well, I tried to make a triple hybrid (Side Popup, Normal popup, Undercutting HS) but I don't have the skillz yet. :P I suppose this next bot is a side popup/popup hybrid, if they can be considered different bot types :S (which would make the triple one pointless:P).

The empty space is there between the snappers as I had originally planned for DDT wedges and Normal popup part on DDTS. 2 Blacks.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/6698Splashy thingy.PNG)
That bot will make Alien Queen RIMP.SCv4 prehaps?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 20, 2010, 07:33:39 AM
(unless it's a hammer, but I don't think it will still happen). :P

Yea, what kind of a noob would build a hammer?

I've built hammers. And VS. But they have failed rather epicly so i haven't showcased them. I'll keep working on them. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Sage on August 20, 2010, 12:22:30 PM
(unless it's a hammer, but I don't think it will still happen). :P


Yea, what kind of a noob would build a hammer?

I've built hammers. And VS. But they have failed rather epicly so i haven't showcased them. I'll keep working on them. :P


It was a joke, cause I used to make a ton of hammers :)
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: J on August 20, 2010, 08:58:42 PM
(unless it's a hammer, but I don't think it will still happen). :P


Yea, what kind of a noob would build a hammer?

I've built hammers. And VS. But they have failed rather epicly so i haven't showcased them. I'll keep working on them. :P


It was a joke, cause I used to make a ton of hammers :)
Hammer bots aren't that bad, its just, simple-er weapons only go so far.
(Hammer of Justice doesn't count)
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 31, 2010, 08:36:49 AM
Bubump.

Got bored, so I tried to use a different chassis for my side popup.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1031Splashy.PNG)

Rather wedgy.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on August 31, 2010, 11:28:34 AM
Nice, but is there only a blackvolt battery?

If so then i think it's a bit underpowered.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on August 31, 2010, 11:33:31 AM
If you read the splash, it says there are 2.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on August 31, 2010, 11:35:31 AM
The middle casters are weight wasted
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Stagfish on August 31, 2010, 12:10:22 PM
Spin the razors around so the flat side hits the opponent.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 31, 2010, 12:32:12 PM
The middle casters are weight wasted

And what could I do with those extra 21 Kgs apart from using rubbers? :P

Spin the razors around so the flat side hits the opponent.

They do. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Stagfish on August 31, 2010, 12:33:42 PM
Does it hit other bots like a car compactor or does it hit their bottom.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on August 31, 2010, 12:35:17 PM
Bottom.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on August 31, 2010, 01:30:43 PM
Hell, you're even doing it wrong in the whole caster setup. Either use 4 ramplates, either full casters like i did on my ROBONOVA 2 entry.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on September 01, 2010, 05:04:43 PM
Ok, ill stop using casters. Was my first time with them anyways :P

Anyways, my latest bot. Insides will come tommorrow as I cba to take pictures and my internet is going to be turned off at any moment.

Its a true popup. My main concern is the DDT's at the top. And I used Grannies as Rubbers and Shinies werent big enough. Most of you guys could have pulled this off way better, but im happy with the result. I will let you guess the setup though. It has 2 blacks and DDT wedges just to help a little (not that some of you would need it :P) Weighs 797 kgs.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5667untitled.PNG)


Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 02, 2010, 03:18:07 AM
Too lazy to rebuild my 8-month old sucky true popup so I'll just give suggestions. XD

It's for the better if you rotate you HPZs 90 degrees so you can get rubbers. Also, if you want more damage, add 'ears' like R4 did so the razors can gain more momentum and deal more damage. And the ears will protect your bursts as well. :D
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on September 02, 2010, 03:29:07 AM
It's for the better if you rotate you HPZs 90 degrees so you can get rubbers.

Its ironic really- both of my bots with their HPZs like that and Grannies have better wedges than those with my normal popup setup XD

Also, if you want more damage, add 'ears' like R4 did so the razors can gain more momentum and deal more damage. And the ears will protect your bursts as well. :D

Well, since the entire razor setup sucks (first time trying something different and failed:P) I'm going to back to my normal razor setup, which should also save me a good 8kg. I'm going to not make ears. Maybe a unicorn horn, but not ears :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on September 02, 2010, 05:29:50 AM
Made this splash for version 0.97ish (0.97 as the wheels and stuff need to be redone.) It was made before I remembered how I had put the drive on in the first place. Will redo the drive later.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/32926Dave the Lizard.PNG)

Anyways, the setup is going to be the same, but what will I do with the 7 kg I'll have left over is beyond me. And yes, the battleshot on the bottom right is with me driving during testing. All advice appreciated :)
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on September 02, 2010, 09:50:05 AM
I'd suggest moving the front ramplates apart a little, so that they protect the outside corners of the bot. HS's tend to connect there more often, I've been told. ;)
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on September 02, 2010, 10:00:11 AM
Meh, I have more problems with them connecting with the baseplate...

Yeah. I was testing it out against AC, got under it fine, popped, flung AC into the air, but my bot also landed on its back. Then AC landed on the bot mace first and KO'ed it. Lol

Anyways, I cant seem to get it to drive straight with rubbers or shinies even after rotating the HPZs, so its grannies for now.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on September 11, 2010, 02:28:35 PM
Another bump.

Help be needed with this un. My best wedges ever, but its where to put the ramplate.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/63882untitled.PNG)

16 razors, DSA, 2 blacks.

And yes, everything could be more compact and stuff :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on September 11, 2010, 02:39:33 PM
<333333333333333
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Stagfish on September 11, 2010, 02:50:17 PM
Ramplate should be further forward, A HS will easily tear up the front.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on September 11, 2010, 02:51:11 PM
No it won't.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Stagfish on September 11, 2010, 02:51:39 PM
Why wont it?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on September 11, 2010, 02:53:04 PM
Too low.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Stagfish on September 11, 2010, 02:53:48 PM
What about Copyright Infringement?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on September 11, 2010, 02:59:39 PM
Marty?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on September 11, 2010, 03:02:37 PM
Lol, im going to have a test against that. Does have problems with maelstrom, but not so much with spin doctor (SC4). This is with me driving btw as I have been too lazy to AI lately..

EDIT: No problems- until the HS starts jumping on top of the bot. Which is what that ramplate is there for (razor protection when the chassis starts getting dented.:P

Just went at it again, OHKO, 3 second match :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 11, 2010, 09:08:08 PM
N00bot-type popups rarely need protection due to their extremely shallow chassis wedges. Which is why it's specialized at killing HSes at the expense of getting asses kicked harder by VSes.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on September 12, 2010, 06:35:55 AM
If you do want protection, you could add some castors at the front. You'll need to make the bot shorter, though, to get the weight for it.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on September 14, 2010, 11:51:09 AM
It seems to be Ok against HS, so I think it will be fine.

On another note..

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58092Dave the lizard 3.PNG)

Its dave the lizard with the updates I promised. Same everything except for wheels, an extra ramplate, and bear (Should be lizard :O) claws.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on September 14, 2010, 11:57:32 AM
Why are there crossed ramplates at the top?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on September 14, 2010, 11:58:54 AM
Protect the DDT's and to get an R4 ear style thing going on :S
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on September 14, 2010, 12:00:30 PM
I think one horizontal ramplate there should protect the DDT's fairly well. And move the front ramplates slight outward to protect the edges a bit better.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on September 15, 2010, 05:47:21 AM
Reskin the bear claws so the fur is green !

The two X-crossed plates are weird as well. What NFX said about them.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on September 15, 2010, 06:58:33 AM
That thing looks cool... Inside pic? :gawe:
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Rolo on September 23, 2010, 04:51:40 PM
Reskin the bear claws so the fur is green !

This and reskin the ramplates so they look like band-aids.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 24, 2010, 02:04:41 AM
Reskin the bear claws so the fur is green !

This and reskin the ramplates so they look like band-aids.

CANNOT BE UNSEEN :O
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on September 28, 2010, 12:16:55 PM
Lul.

Anyways, 8 pages of HW's. Not a single LW or MW. I felt this was very silly of me, so I made a MW. Guess what bot type it is..


Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: madman3 on September 28, 2010, 12:22:02 PM
Seems like the weapons are being fired by to weak a motor but I'm guessing the Wedges flip, right?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on September 28, 2010, 12:24:05 PM
Nope, and don't underestimate the snappers. XD
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on September 28, 2010, 12:25:17 PM
The Snappers are fine.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on September 28, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
I do not like the exposed front much, personally. Aside from that is looks quite good, especially if it's as wedgy as you say it is.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: J on September 28, 2010, 01:09:02 PM
Why a ballast? O,o

You could replace it with a ram-plate, yo
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on September 28, 2010, 01:11:18 PM
10 does not equal 24.

If he lost one razor from each snapper, that would work. And would also make them fire faster. =D
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: J on September 28, 2010, 01:13:03 PM
10 does not equal 24.

If he lost one razor from each snapper, that would work. And would also make them fire faster. =D
Yes, and switch the black extenders for red ones. So they fire even faster.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on September 28, 2010, 01:18:44 PM
10 does not equal 24.

If he lost one razor from each snapper, that would work. And would also make them fire faster. =D
Yes, and switch the black extenders for red ones. So they fire even faster.
How would that make them fire faster? They both weigh exactly the same.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: J on September 28, 2010, 01:19:23 PM
10 does not equal 24.

If he lost one razor from each snapper, that would work. And would also make them fire faster. =D
Yes, and switch the black extenders for red ones. So they fire even faster.
How would that make them fire faster? They both weigh exactly the same.
Red makes things go faster.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on September 28, 2010, 01:20:18 PM
I disagree.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: J on September 28, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
I disagree.
HPZs are faster because they are red.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on September 28, 2010, 01:21:57 PM
Sage painted them green. =]
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: J on September 28, 2010, 01:25:27 PM
Sage painted them green. =]
Fine.
The ORIGIONAL HPs become faster then are the Zs, which are red.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 05, 2010, 11:50:24 AM
Lolol

Anyways, Soulreaver 2.
(AKA pretty much your standard popup nowadays)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70919Soulreaver 2.PNG)

Wouldnt mind swapping this around for iron filings in the best bot builder (along with my DSL entry) since I know hot wheels is in there, but it will be interesting to see how iron does. Doubt gazea would let me anyways. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on October 05, 2010, 11:51:24 AM
Doesn't the drive wobbles ?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 05, 2010, 11:53:00 AM
Nope :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on October 05, 2010, 11:53:39 AM
You get turning (x-plane) and forwards and backwards motion (y-plane) when you're driving, but there's very little roll (z-plane), which is the plane of the Snapper's rotation, so I reckon it should be more or less fine.
 
I would be inclined to space the ramplates out a little more, to get some protection on the corners.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on October 05, 2010, 11:56:37 AM
You get turning (x-plane) and forwards and backwards motion (y-plane) when you're driving, but there's very little roll (z-plane), which is the plane of the Snapper's rotation, so I reckon it should be more or less fine.
 
I would be inclined to space the ramplates out a little more, to get some protection on the corners.
Wouldn't that leave the front more open to other wedges/popups
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on October 05, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Doubt gazea would let me anyways. :P

:O WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY??

Of course you can. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 05, 2010, 11:58:10 AM
Lol, thanks gazea XD

I'll AI it pronto, and send a better DSL bot. Seriously, the beast form truro 2 sucks hard XD
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on October 05, 2010, 12:02:45 PM
You get turning (x-plane) and forwards and backwards motion (y-plane) when you're driving, but there's very little roll (z-plane), which is the plane of the Snapper's rotation, so I reckon it should be more or less fine.
 
I would be inclined to space the ramplates out a little more, to get some protection on the corners.
Wouldn't that leave the front more open to other wedges/popups

Not really, you'd only need to move the outermost two over the edges a bit, and space the rest of them out equally between them. You'd have a tiny gap between each ramplate, but I doubt an HS would actually get to the chassis that way.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on October 05, 2010, 02:01:31 PM
I think you should move the ramplates apart a bit more and maybe remove a razor from each DDT. 9 on a DDT with only 2 blacks is a little overkill, I think.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 18, 2010, 03:29:25 PM
We'll see how it does. :P

Running out of ideas for popups now. Tried to build one off of a single snapper, was doing fine until I discovered that I could only put 1 razor onto each DDT ¬.¬

So I made this instead. 2 blacks, DSA, 10 razors.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35083Phenolphthalein.PNG)

Wedgier than I expected :D
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: cephalopod on October 18, 2010, 03:35:47 PM
TITRATIONS D:
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on October 18, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
I knew I'd heard of Phenolphthalein somewhere before.

In my view, I think the chassis could shrink a little lengthways. If you line up all the DDT's the same way, and move the Snapper right back by the batteries, you could probably shave a good chunk of weight off there. I'd also use rubbers, personally. Maybe you could stick some blades on the wedge extenders for some degree of defense with the extra weight.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on October 18, 2010, 10:14:12 PM
TITRATIONS D:

Why the sad face? Acid-base analyses are fun! :P

If it's that wedgy, then you should probably just keep it that way. But NFX's advice still applies when you're building another popup. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on October 19, 2010, 02:47:59 AM
Most random name ever... srsly ? A pH-reactive color indicator ?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on October 19, 2010, 02:58:39 AM
Most random name ever... srsly ? A pH-reactive color indicator ?

Better than 'Litmus'. :P

On the other hand, 'Nitrazine' sounds nice.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on October 19, 2010, 10:39:49 AM
Why Grannies?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 19, 2010, 11:16:31 AM
Due to my poor snapper loading skills and use of T connectors (so it drives straight), grannies were the only wheels to touch the ground. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on October 19, 2010, 12:06:40 PM
Most random name ever... srsly ? A pH-reactive color indicator ?

More random than Zombie Pirate Ninja? =P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 19, 2010, 04:09:21 PM
Most random name ever... srsly ? A pH-reactive color indicator ?

I almost called this one Litmus..and its an inside joke which only Craaig gets. :P


And NFX (and Pwn) thanks for the advice. No idea how, but i've managed to get rubbers on it (:D), 2 extra ramplates and 2 blades at the expense of 4 razors. Insides are exactly the same otherwise (apart from the shrunk chassis n all) . (And I lied. 1st version had 14, this has 10.:P)


Phenolphthalein 2. :P

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/475572.PNG)


Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: madman3 on October 19, 2010, 04:11:37 PM
How good are the wedges (me guesses good with all the weight at the front).
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on October 19, 2010, 04:46:32 PM
I think the wedges would be quite good.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on October 19, 2010, 10:30:04 PM
Something looks wrong with the right wedge (which means the left on in the picture). Is that AGOD?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on November 17, 2010, 03:05:15 PM
BUMP :D

Here is a rebuild...everything you should need is on the splashh.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/84549Iron Filings 2.PNG)

Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on November 17, 2010, 03:12:11 PM
It looks cool, what is the ballast there for though?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on November 17, 2010, 03:13:58 PM
Give me something I can do with the extra 10 kgs, and I'll gladly remove it. Although, it just beat R4 2-1, and NWB and other wedgy bots with the ballast. Hmm..
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on November 17, 2010, 03:17:43 PM
Hmm, don't know TBH.
Does it self right itself?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on November 17, 2010, 03:25:48 PM
It hasnt actually been flipped yet. :O

Apart from the 1 Hit KO from R4. (Only bot popup thats outwedged it once (only once.:P) so far :D)

But i would imagine it drifts around on its top spinners.

EDIT : Gah, Soulreaver outwedges it D:
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on November 18, 2010, 03:24:26 AM
Looks pretty good. How about rotating the upper two HPZs a notch downward?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on November 18, 2010, 04:46:37 AM
Wedged HS are awesome
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on November 24, 2010, 04:00:41 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80592Ludicrous Failure.PNG)

Not making one of these for at least another year...it fails too hard, my extender setup probably sucks, its as wedgy as a toffee, and its a general failure. Mainly posted for advice as to how to make it better.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2010, 04:03:16 PM
lolwut

*Seriousness Ahead*

You have all of the right parts, just the wrong setup it seems. Good Armor, Good Wedges, Good Batteries, Good Drive Motors, Good Weapons.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on November 24, 2010, 04:05:39 PM
Well if it's called ludicrous faillure, ofcourse it's not gonna do too well ;P
What are the swords there for?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on November 24, 2010, 04:09:37 PM
Well if it's called ludicrous faillure, ofcourse it's not gonna do too well ;P
What are the swords there for?

I called it ludicrous failure after i tested it. :P

And the blades are there for the rule of cool as it fails anyways. Basically, attempted R4yness, and the back one is because I had no idea what to do with the weight. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on November 24, 2010, 04:11:34 PM
Ah, well obviously if you want to make it better you should probably get rid of them.
And why are you using the giant wheels?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on November 24, 2010, 04:15:42 PM
No other wheels touch the ground, lolol. xD
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on November 24, 2010, 04:20:10 PM
absolutely ridiculous
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on November 24, 2010, 04:27:03 PM
...you score 10 marks for coolness, but lose 9 of them for the rest of it. Invert the position of the drive motors to get smaller wheels on to start with, and it's too compact and narrow in my view. Needs to be wider. =P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Enigm@ on November 24, 2010, 04:37:24 PM
MOAR RAZORS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on November 24, 2010, 04:38:56 PM
MOAR RAZORS!!!!!!!

I wondered where that came in...check my DSL showcase for moar razors. :P

And ya, NFX, this was mainly a trial run to see if I could make a popup off of one snapper. And failed horribly. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 17, 2010, 04:23:14 PM
Quick, I need a loophole D:

Marty, you have Craaig's bot Stealth Destroyer 2. You need to make a sledgehammer VS.

My mome rath ripoff sucked more than it should have done, and all my other attempts end up like this:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66730Sigh.PNG)

Halp D:
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on December 17, 2010, 04:24:44 PM
Loophole: Only some of the weapons need be sledges.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 17, 2010, 04:29:22 PM
Loophole: Only some of the weapons need be sledges.

But they have to be on a VS, so no putting a sledge on for front protection (darn xD)?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on December 17, 2010, 04:33:37 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Clickbeetle on December 17, 2010, 11:09:17 PM
Mjorhmei did all right in BBEANS5, even against bots that severely outweapon it.  Maybe do something like that.


Or do something like Hammermill, my bot for my challenge with Sage.


The trick with sledgehammers is you need to get your opponent OOTA because you're not going to outweapon anything anytime soon.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 18, 2010, 12:26:08 PM
Everything I've tried so far with hammers fails one way or another, so I decided to take a break and make an almost airtight popup.


Yes, it probably is under-armoured. xD

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/98186Air tight popup.PNG)

That AC shot still baffles me :S
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: The Ounce on December 18, 2010, 02:37:42 PM
Better than my 1HKO against AC.  :D

Yes it could be more airtight, and maybe moving the ramplates farther toward the sides would give you more protection against HSs.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on December 18, 2010, 02:43:46 PM
Is it just me, or is that baselpate anchor in the center not doing anything?
Anyway, I like the chassis shape, it's good to see a non-standard design for a popup in stock  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: FOTEPX on December 18, 2010, 02:59:27 PM
I think that 10 razors per burst is overkill. Maybe get some SnapperII wedges and focus on spreading the razors evenly/getting a few moar razors.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on December 18, 2010, 03:10:03 PM
I think that 10 razors per burst is overkill. Maybe get some SnapperII wedges and focus on spreading the razors evenly/getting a few moar razors.
Snapper II wedges are worse than DDT wedges.
And the razorz seem pretty spread out to me for a stock popup atleast.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: FOTEPX on December 18, 2010, 03:13:31 PM
Huh.

Well, I'm still learning in Stock. Feel free to bash me with a noob hammer, then. *puts on crash helmet*

WAIT!

Couldn't you at very least snapper load the Z-Teks to save some weight and get some more weapons on there?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on December 18, 2010, 03:28:34 PM
Well (from personal experience) snapper loaded drive is very unstable.
Also, it leaves the drive a lot more exposed which seems to be a worse thing to do in stock than in DSL.

As ounce said, it's the armour he probably wants to focus on improving most, and he can do that by tightening the chassis up.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 18, 2010, 03:30:01 PM
Couldn't you at very least snapper load the Z-Teks to save some weight and get some more weapons on there?

Funny that, my nickname for it is Moar weapons than necessary xD
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on December 18, 2010, 03:34:29 PM
Though his comment makes no sense if you read it whole, FOTEPX is partly right this time. 10 razors per DDT is overkill.

However, snapper loading your drive would require nearly 40 kg, and would expose your motors. So no.

Yeah, add moar armor
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 18, 2010, 03:37:37 PM
8 razors each sound okay to you?

I can then add another ramplate and stuffs :D
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on December 18, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
8 razors is fine for a DDT, but it MUST be fully powered then.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 18, 2010, 04:16:30 PM
How many blacks will that be? 3 or 4?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on December 18, 2010, 04:26:42 PM
2 is technically enough, but they will drain quite fast. 3 is fine.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: FOTEPX on December 18, 2010, 04:36:45 PM
Well, that's it then. Get another black in, tighten the chassis, remove the useless Baseplate extender, and maybe guard the wedges with blades.

That's all I can think of. Anyone else got any ideas?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 18, 2010, 05:01:13 PM
Tightening the chassis gave me another 5kg... any tightening I can do around the front?

Now...a compromise. Do I put in the extra battery for longer matches, or do I put extra frontal armour on instead?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: FOTEPX on December 18, 2010, 05:02:31 PM
I'd recommend the battery.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on December 18, 2010, 05:36:36 PM
more armor, since 8 razors on each ddt will cause matches to end quick anyway.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on December 18, 2010, 06:24:52 PM
When I saw the chassis shape, I thought Gazea built it. @_@
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on December 19, 2010, 09:49:13 AM
When I saw the chassis shape, I thought Gazea built it. @_@

I lol'd.

My advice is the same as the advice that you have been given so, I won't bother posting it. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 19, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
I'll get on it when I can be bothered to go back to stock again xD

Anyways, my most likely BTTB entry. Stealth Destroyer (Insert name here)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15716VS.PNG)

DSA, 1 Black, 6 sledges, 4 25cm casters, etc.

My main problem is that the sledges don't last very long xD HS food, of course.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on December 19, 2010, 04:01:12 PM
<333333333
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on December 19, 2010, 04:30:45 PM
Is that drive not like, VERY unstable?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scrap Daddy on December 19, 2010, 04:36:34 PM
looks pretty good actually except for the fact as soon as you lose one of those weak long extenders, you're going to be flopping all over the arena. making it not rely on those weak wedges for support might be a good idea.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on December 19, 2010, 05:05:13 PM
Is that not bouncy as heck? SD's also right about the extenders being very weak. Maybe protecting them with a blade of some description might help a little bit.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 20, 2010, 07:50:29 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/63991VS2.PNG)

Forgive my bad cropping/resizing D:

But this may be the final version. Only changes are the blades on the wedges, shinies and snowploughs.

Now, to AI it. Time for its effectiveness to disappear.. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on December 20, 2010, 07:53:53 AM
Well, it does still have the mad extender work at the back, but i guess you can't really do that much about that, and it certainly looks impressive.
One thing though that I thi...Is that a racoon?
RACOON?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on December 20, 2010, 07:55:28 AM
lol I can guess why.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 20, 2010, 07:56:00 AM
You know I have a tendency to put random pictures in to fill the empty space xD

And yes, it is a raccoon.

OT: I dunno how to un-madify the extender work at the back, any suggestions would be loved for all eternity xD
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on December 20, 2010, 08:01:16 AM
I don't know TBH mr flibble, apart from perhaps making a bigger chassis.
Or you could try and protect them more by moving the snowplows further out from each other, which is probably the much easier, but less effective way.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on December 20, 2010, 11:21:34 AM
I would rotate the katanas so their end closer to the ground, and your bot might be more stable after that.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 22, 2010, 05:14:36 AM
I would rotate the katanas so their end closer to the ground, and your bot might be more stable after that.

Will do :D

Now, for my second favourite stock bot (after my BTTB3 entry, which I will send to GK later.:P). Called Bird is the word. Inspired a little by one of Sage's bots.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74918screenshot_34.PNG)

4 Blacks, 20 razors (I think I'll cut that down a little. I went a little overkill xD), DSA.

Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Scorpion on December 22, 2010, 05:23:36 AM
Well, you definately need to lower the amount of razorz on each DDT there (yep, less razorz  :eek:)
And you'll also want some frontal protection for against HS.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on December 22, 2010, 05:23:56 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30060birdstheword.gif)


Shallow wedges are awesome. As for the razor count, I think 8 razors is the maximum amount you can use while retaining efficiency.

How fast is it?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Stagfish on December 22, 2010, 05:28:07 AM
I have that song on my phone.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on December 22, 2010, 05:29:03 AM
Probably one of my favourite stock popups. How are the wedges?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on December 22, 2010, 05:33:56 AM
Its not quite as fast as your standard 4WD HPZ, but it seems to do quite well.

R4 has 20 on 4 DDTs, no? xD

Probably one of my favourite stock popups. How are the wedges?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/37561screenshot_29 PNG.PNG)

Well, it done this to R4 5 times in a row (well, not the OHKO, but xD), so they can't be too bad.

EDIT: PiTa 8 outwedges it 3/4 of the time though, and its slightly better than S13.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on December 22, 2010, 05:38:22 AM
Redbird drive ? :rage
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on December 22, 2010, 05:38:42 AM
Nice. Very unique bot. ;)
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on December 22, 2010, 06:24:08 AM
That is quite unique. I'd be interested to see 6WD Redbirds vs. 4WD HP Z-Teks.

And you should probably lose a couple of razors from each DDT, and definitely add some frontal protection.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Vertigo on December 22, 2010, 06:42:40 AM
Whats wrong with HP Z-Teks?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on December 22, 2010, 07:10:23 AM
Whats wrong with HP Z-Teks?

TOO MAINSTREAM. BIRD'S THE WORD

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30060birdstheword.gif)
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on February 16, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
Nyeh, popup, 2 black, 4 pinks because i'm too lazy to stack an black inbetween the other 2, 20 razors, Mouldy Cheese 5, wedges average, etc. etc.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14063screenshot_37.PNG)
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Sage on February 16, 2011, 05:12:44 PM
stack a black, but other than that looks good
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on February 17, 2011, 06:20:31 PM
Doesn't look terribly bad, I reckon. Maybe some frontal protection might be useful.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on February 18, 2011, 01:18:48 PM
LESS RAZORS
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: FOTEPX on February 18, 2011, 01:21:58 PM
LESS RAZORS

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH MY NARYAR!?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on June 04, 2012, 05:55:34 AM
A year and a bit since my last post O:

Anyways, this...

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41003astockbotwhatisthis.png)

DSA. Like the first stock LW I've ever actually built. :L

With a smartzone its a MW though.. I'll ask GRW if he has the weightless smartzones :L
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on June 04, 2012, 05:57:04 AM
Pretty nice looking, in my view. Not sure how useful that caster's going to be, but it looks decent. You could definitely stand to shrink up the chassis slightly, I reckon.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: madman3 on June 04, 2012, 06:04:10 AM
A year and a bit since my last post O:

Anyways, this...

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41003astockbotwhatisthis.png)

DSA. Like the first stock LW I've ever actually built. :L

With a smartzone its a MW though.. I'll ask GRW if he has the weightless smartzones :L
Whoa, I built a bot nearly identical to this for RIW4 :P.
I'd try and position the caster on whichever side is most often hit by spinners, which is what I did for mine.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on June 04, 2012, 06:08:05 AM
I totally didn't advise you on this, did I? :P
You could shrink the chassis slightly and move the caster to the corner. Other than that, not bad.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Badnik96 on June 04, 2012, 08:48:01 AM
dammit it's a better Coelophysis D:
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on June 06, 2012, 07:20:05 AM
Figured I'd better drop this here so Gaz and Ty know what happened to the bot we were talking about...

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/65996fialstock.png)

Looks good? Check. Havoks like a fish out of water? Check. Exposed extender holding everything up? Check. DSA? Check. Nifty? Check. Failure? Check.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on June 06, 2012, 07:25:43 AM
Hmmm, doesn't look too bad. Why is the drive so far back?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: ty4er on June 06, 2012, 07:28:51 AM
i guess its unstable

i just have to finish mine now :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on June 06, 2012, 07:29:10 AM
Long 140cm square extender is long.

And it is suprisingly stable. When it isn't havoking.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on June 06, 2012, 07:34:36 AM
It's a mini Ripblade (restocked anyway) :3

Mount the snapper in different ways and I'm pretty sure you'll find a setup that's least unstable.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 07, 2012, 12:09:03 PM
It's a mini Ripblade (restocked anyway) :3

He's onto me D:

Anyhoo, this thing.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57219Akantha.5.png)

Stock VS, why so bad without wedges D:

I need to find a way to protect those stabilisers more- HS and Popups seem to get them fairly often. Might remove the ice picks on the back, and the two central casters (The little OCD part of me couldn't leave them out D:) to protect the top better. And tbh, I'm not even sure I have the weapon motors wired the right way. :L 2 blacks (lazilylovingly stacked by gazea) and DSA.

Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on July 07, 2012, 12:14:17 PM
You were right the first time. Lazily stacked. :P
Looks good, I'd remove the ice picks and protect the stabilisers more, though.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Mecha on July 07, 2012, 12:15:53 PM
That bot reminds me of a spider..... dunno why. :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on July 07, 2012, 01:01:22 PM
Long legs and VS teeth vaguely reminiscent of chelicerae ?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Mr. AS on July 07, 2012, 01:06:18 PM
remember, all the round/square extenders have 100 hp, if they take a single >100 pt hit from a hs the entire bot's stability is done for, you need to protect them with quite a few 1000 hp weapons if you want it to not fail
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 09, 2012, 10:16:42 AM
Slightly changed it- looks cooler now in my opinion, but stabilser protection isn't greatly improved.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75294Akantha.75.png)

2 central casters taken off, as well as the ice picks. Also has possibly my favourite name for a bot, Akantha.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 11, 2012, 08:12:10 AM
Just to prove I did it-

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28741Understab.png)

2 blacks, DSA, Rubbars, 4WD, green snapper wedges. Works more like a VS than a popup/VS hyrbrid, but the popup part does come into play every now and then.

I'm thinking rotating the snoploughs in towards the chassis a bit, and possibly extending the popup part a bit.

I think it looks cool anyways :P
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Pwnator on October 11, 2012, 08:29:36 AM
The reason my VS/popup hybrid actually worked is because the VS component is small (so it pretty much acts like a drum and grinds instead of throws) so the popup element often comes into play.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 11, 2012, 03:16:50 PM
personally i would just use RADS so they dont toss the opponent away before the popup does anything
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 22, 2012, 01:08:16 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80355Mr Pop.png)

It stares into your soul.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on October 22, 2012, 01:19:06 PM
And what else might it do? Can we stare into its soul, i.e. components? :gawe:
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: 090901 on October 22, 2012, 01:41:01 PM
its beautiful
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 22, 2012, 01:55:44 PM
geussing:

-->mw
-->4wd HPZ
-->1 ddt or snapper w/ 3-4 razors
-->snapper2 wedge
-->wedge quality is above average
-->dsa
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 22, 2012, 04:58:52 PM
geussing:

-->mw Yar
-->4wd HPZ Not quite, Normal Z-teks
-->1 ddt or snapper w/ 3-4 razors DDT, 4 razors
-->snapper2 wedge Yup
-->wedge quality is above average God knows
-->dsa Indeedy

Just wanted to build a 4WD MW popup really... :L
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 22, 2012, 05:02:29 PM
why 4wd reg zteks? its exactly the same speed as 2wd hpz.....

if you get rid of the casters and use a snapper for the weapon, you should be able to get 4wd HPZ, its not like 4wd popup matches last long anyway
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 23, 2012, 01:46:01 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86225Mrpopsmidlifecrisis.png)

He's bought a fast new set of wheels, started greying, has had plastic surgery, and then gained a few wrinkles.

Yes folks, he's in his midlife crisis.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 23, 2012, 06:57:59 PM
id get rid of the casters and upgrade to dsa

and the front looks a bit..... narrow to me, maybe move the battery up between the snappers
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 24, 2012, 08:11:42 AM
id get rid of the casters and upgrade to dsa

and the front looks a bit..... narrow to me, maybe move the battery up between the snappers

He does have DSA :P His plastic surgery was the face narrowing xD Shoulda said face remodelling xD

I had to narrow the front to get weight for everything.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on October 28, 2012, 12:14:51 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8464soulreaver3.png)

At least 2 blacks (didn't check), 8 razors, 3 snapper2, snapper2 wedges..
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on October 28, 2012, 12:46:35 PM
drive motors are too exposed.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on November 20, 2012, 03:08:40 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/71472stockhammar.png)

Most terrifying stock bot ever.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Badnik96 on November 20, 2012, 03:31:20 PM
For RWE3 I assume?

Looks cool, I like the wheelguards.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: That Robot is a Spy! on November 20, 2012, 03:32:55 PM
I like how you've made more defence than offence.
Hammer might struggle a bit to do damage. Assuming it is good armour though.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: 090901 on November 20, 2012, 04:54:58 PM
it needs a BATTLEAXE
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: NFX on November 20, 2012, 05:50:09 PM
IRL? I like this. Maybe a slightly flashier skin would work well, but it looks quite good at the moment.Would it be possible to see it from the back?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on February 19, 2013, 05:29:57 AM
Since I feel obligated to post a bot, have a 3 year old one, built before anything I've posted on the forums.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75482scorcher 4.png)


It's completely flawless.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Jamin on February 19, 2013, 05:51:29 AM
irl stock bretty good
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on February 22, 2013, 03:26:53 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/63052hsfsthingahh.png)

2 blacks, HPZ, DSA, etc.

Black extenders on the non angled one for segmenting and I'm not sure what I'd do with the weight gained anyways.

Also got a lucky stack on the middle BPA.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: cephalopod on February 22, 2013, 03:28:06 PM
Dat ferret <3
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on June 05, 2014, 08:46:05 AM
(http://i.gyazo.com/f6e12b04970a04481b8e3f7d97a85644.png)

4 DDTs with 3 razors each, 4WD,DSA. 2 blacks and a pink.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on June 05, 2014, 08:48:52 AM
these razors are rustling me
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Gazea2 on June 05, 2014, 09:03:39 AM
That armour and those razor wedges <3
looks sexeh
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on June 14, 2014, 07:30:47 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/3b9f9cf5caf83bb52a2472ba79369ec0.png)

#edgy
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Wacky Bob on June 14, 2014, 07:45:34 PM
I really need to make a chained VS.

I would suggest to get rid of the bear claws so you can make the razors and irons parallel, but the rule of seven is dumb.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Mr. AS on June 14, 2014, 07:58:46 PM
Angle the spinners so that the razors can hit things, and you've got yourself a chained FS.
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Naryar on June 15, 2014, 08:32:11 AM
nice bearclaws

if I were you I would invert the motors (and move both to the center of the bot) so the razors stick outside and actually are useful against HS
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on July 10, 2015, 09:13:57 AM
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oops

maybe that's why I can't build

(http://i.gyazo.com/77a8630d5cfd652d92002613e27447f8.png)

(http://i.gyazo.com/d2eb802c0ffd2a89f4a8811a664a1b67.png)

I've been trying gk, honest, but they're so baddddd
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: Sage on July 10, 2015, 11:52:03 AM
post insidessss
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: G.K. on July 10, 2015, 05:07:07 PM
<3
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: RedAce on July 10, 2015, 05:13:38 PM
Seems like a good entry. What's bad about it?
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: martymidget on March 19, 2021, 04:35:24 PM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/197015775628886016/822583815033716776/unknown.png)

Nifty, DSA, 247.5kg using the 140cm square bois
Title: Re: Martymidget's stock failcase
Post by: JoeBlo on March 22, 2021, 12:48:34 AM
I have the urge to build a 140cm stablised LW VS in order to stay trendy