I just hope you don't follow the current tradition of building robots with two bloody separate wedges, seriously it's getting really annoying now
Everytime I see you post something I'm gonna be reminded of Bob Marley. :gawe:
:trollfaceEverytime I see you post something I'm gonna be reminded of Bob Marley. :gawe:
I hate you. So much. Now I can't read his posts without a Jamaican accent in mind. >.<
AS... Did you read his first post at all? He's just tinkering with ideas at this point.yes and im telling how to make it more efficient. atm it honestly wont last 15-30 seconds against the mighty fury or crimson (prehaps even less !).
you don't say that to irl dsl building though. let him build what he wants to.AS... Did you read his first post at all? He's just tinkering with ideas at this point.yes and im telling how to make it more efficient. atm it honestly wont last 15-30 seconds against the mighty fury or crimson (perhaps even less !).
I just hope you don't follow the current tradition of building robots with two bloody separate wedges
dslwell obviously because dsl was made for bots that would work irl (atleast until naryar and robo and all those guys pretty much raped that concept into what it is today, and ofcourse there people like thyrus who still build irl-style bots) and tring to make bwhile stock is STRICTLY about how efficient you can make a bot, regardless of realism or not. the only stock realism to be found is mostly jonzus robot wars series 8 and that one other tourney he made (metal mayhem or something, that stock realsim tourney that gf won), and in general irl does not work in stock very well
dslwell obviously because dsl was made for bots that would work irl (atleast until naryar and robo and all those guys pretty much raped that concept into what it is today, and ofcourse there people like thyrus who still build irl-style bots) and tring to make bwhile stock is STRICTLY about how efficient you can make a bot, regardless of realism or not. the only stock realism to be found is mostly jonzus robot wars series 8 and that one other tourney he made (metal mayhem or something, that stock realsim tourney that gf won), and in general irl does not work in stock very well
tldr STOCK IS NOT ABOUT REALISM... yes ty if he wants to build irl he will be infinitely better off in dsl
@op if you want to make a turret hammer in stock you might want to look at clicks bot recipe for disaster:
(https://gametechmods.com/TournamentFiles/botm/july09/003.jpg)
^of course it would be a mw^
Nice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.
Nice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.too bad its not original.
Nice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.too bad its not original.
you'd be better off with a spinning weapon to fend off popups and other wedges, and the turrent hammer mounted on only round extenders (see the picture i posted on the first page ..... make something like that, of course it would be a middleweight), with no wedges and 2-4 snowplows, and a bottom with casters if you can and you only need shiny hubs/rubbers (shinies if you go with no casters) for this
put both the weapon systems on. the hammer needs be curved/long enough to reach over the spinner to hit the othere bots chassisNice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.too bad its not original.
you'd be better off with a spinning weapon to fend off popups and other wedges, and the turrent hammer mounted on only round extenders (see the picture i posted on the first page ..... make something like that, of course it would be a middleweight), with no wedges and 2-4 snowplows, and a bottom with casters if you can and you only need shiny hubs/rubbers (shinies if you go with no casters) for this
If I gave it spinning weapons, that could completely defeat the purpose of building a turret hammer.
I understood what you meant, but the point of making a 360o hammer is that I will be able to hit in all directions, it seems like you'd want me to focus all of the attack on one side (the side with the other weapon system.)put both the weapon systems on. the hammer needs be curved/long enough to reach over the spinner to hit the othere bots chassisNice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.too bad its not original.
you'd be better off with a spinning weapon to fend off popups and other wedges, and the turrent hammer mounted on only round extenders (see the picture i posted on the first page ..... make something like that, of course it would be a middleweight), with no wedges and 2-4 snowplows, and a bottom with casters if you can and you only need shiny hubs/rubbers (shinies if you go with no casters) for this
If I gave it spinning weapons, that could completely defeat the purpose of building a turret hammer.
if you have a chassis small enough, the tribar, extender and weapons should encompass the entire bot, again see clickbeetle's bot on the first pageI understood what you meant, but the point of making a 360o hammer is that I will be able to hit in all directions, it seems like you'd want me to focus all of the attack on one side (the side with the other weapon system.)put both the weapon systems on. the hammer needs be curved/long enough to reach over the spinner to hit the othere bots chassisNice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.too bad its not original.
you'd be better off with a spinning weapon to fend off popups and other wedges, and the turrent hammer mounted on only round extenders (see the picture i posted on the first page ..... make something like that, of course it would be a middleweight), with no wedges and 2-4 snowplows, and a bottom with casters if you can and you only need shiny hubs/rubbers (shinies if you go with no casters) for this
If I gave it spinning weapons, that could completely defeat the purpose of building a turret hammer.
Ok, I'll try out your advice later on. Here is the version of CRASH I was making earlier.if you have a chassis small enough, the tribar, extender and weapons should encompass the entire bot, again see clickbeetle's bot on the first pageI understood what you meant, but the point of making a 360o hammer is that I will be able to hit in all directions, it seems like you'd want me to focus all of the attack on one side (the side with the other weapon system.)put both the weapon systems on. the hammer needs be curved/long enough to reach over the spinner to hit the othere bots chassisNice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.too bad its not original.
you'd be better off with a spinning weapon to fend off popups and other wedges, and the turrent hammer mounted on only round extenders (see the picture i posted on the first page ..... make something like that, of course it would be a middleweight), with no wedges and 2-4 snowplows, and a bottom with casters if you can and you only need shiny hubs/rubbers (shinies if you go with no casters) for this
If I gave it spinning weapons, that could completely defeat the purpose of building a turret hammer.
jeez he's just starting out and now you're forcing him to build stuff that's 4x more complex?whos said i was forcing him ? i was hoping for him to take atleast take a try at it, obviously hes no clickbeetle yet, i was hoping he'd atleast try, and if he fails we'll guide him to a finished product !
give him a break
jeez he's just starting out and now you're forcing him to build stuff that's 4x more complex?
give him a break
ugh I hate it when some newb joins and his bots are cool but not effective and some guy tells him to make the bot 100% combat effectivity. Stop.cool/original not always = ineffective
BECAUSE HE CAN'T BUILD STUFF LIKE THAT RIGHT OFF THE BAT!calm down, it was just an example. dont get your knickers or undies in a bunch/jimmies rustled/bones rattled/etc.
HOW DO YOU THINK CAN HE BUILD AN EFFECTIVE HYBRID IF HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO BUILD AN EFFECTIVE SINGLE BOT TYPE?
I have already said that it is possible to build an original design and make it somewhat effective, but that is not the point at all. We're just saying that you need to stop being so forceful about it.and again i am saying that im not forcing him (im not holding a damn gun to his head, they are TIPS), im just suggesting that he atleast take an attempt at it, even if it does become a sftw we'll teach him how to make it BETTER until he can be a pro. im telling him to LOOK AT THE PIC AND DO HIS BEST (whatever that may be) TO DRAW INSPARATION FROM IT and TRY to make something SIMILAR, obviously not all the fancy ass snapper loading stuff that they do with a 17.9 kg chassis (actually thatd probably be pretty havoky)
What's the weight and armor?The extenders are to stop robots from going over the top. It weights 478.9 and has no armor.
Try making the motors less exposed and make the wedges longer, because that's not going to get under anything when the weapons are farther out than the wedges. Add more weapons and try to lose the empty space. And nice random extenders at the top, other than that I like it.
yes, you are certainly getting better, but you might want toAnd oh, before you even wanna start building, think first of what you wanna build. So, if you wanna build a HW Popup for example, think of the chassis of the bot, what shape it'll be, how is it going to work, how much space the parts need, and the finished product of the bot.
1. have asteepershallower wedge so bots will climb up and be able to be guttripped easier
2. get rid of one of the blacks (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2stats.htm (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2stats.htm))
3. get burst motor wedges, green snappers recommended for this
EDIT: and get it down to a mw because 6 irons is like nothing for a hw
Nice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.
Self explanatorydude, before giving any advice, what is this bot's type? is it a normal Horizontal Spinner or is it a Horizontal Spinner/Rammer Hybrid? if it's the former, change the drive to RADs, shrink the chassis, and change the extender holding the weapons to 20cm. If it's the latter, also shrink the chassis, and try to get a mace weapon rack. I'll let the ones who are better at me give more advice.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/783472012-07-20_00003.png)
Self explanatorydude, before giving any advice, what is this bot's type? is it a normal Horizontal Spinner or is it a Horizontal Spinner/Rammer Hybrid? if it's the former, change the drive to RADs, shrink the chassis, and change the extender holding the weapons to 20cm. If it's the latter, also shrink the chassis, and try to get a mace weapon rack. I'll let the ones who are better at me give more advice.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/783472012-07-20_00003.png)
so, do you want an ordinary Horizontal Spinner like this:Self explanatorydude, before giving any advice, what is this bot's type? is it a normal Horizontal Spinner or is it a Horizontal Spinner/Rammer Hybrid? if it's the former, change the drive to RADs, shrink the chassis, and change the extender holding the weapons to 20cm. If it's the latter, also shrink the chassis, and try to get a mace weapon rack. I'll let the ones who are better at me give more advice.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/783472012-07-20_00003.png)
Uhhh, I guess it rams stuff, but that's not when I had in mind for the design.
so, do you want an ordinary Horizontal Spinner like this:Self explanatorydude, before giving any advice, what is this bot's type? is it a normal Horizontal Spinner or is it a Horizontal Spinner/Rammer Hybrid? if it's the former, change the drive to RADs, shrink the chassis, and change the extender holding the weapons to 20cm. If it's the latter, also shrink the chassis, and try to get a mace weapon rack. I'll let the ones who are better at me give more advice.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/783472012-07-20_00003.png)
Uhhh, I guess it rams stuff, but that's not when I had in mind for the design.
https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Fury (https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Fury)
or do you want a Horizontal Spinner that still can Ram opponents like this:
https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=2_Sinister (https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=2_Sinister)
your pick.
dude, before giving any advice, what is this bot's type? is it a normal Horizontal Spinner or is it a Horizontal Spinner/Rammer Hybrid?
lel staucka Face spinner eh? good job. but i would switch the drive anchors and the nifty's position and ditch the whole angled thing(make it a normal Face Spinner).And try to make it invertible, and try to stack the control board into the nifty.
lel paint splashes
WARNING: IT LOOKS LIKE BAD WORDS BUT FOR YOUR EYES
Good to see you building to the weight limit, plus a pretty good job making the chassis compact. As Gauche said, having the wheels in the middle will make it tip from front to back. So instead of putting the Z-teks like that, add a pair of 40cms pointing backwards where the drive is now, then put the drive on the end of those and switch to shinies. Then you can lengthen the stabilizers with 20cms.
Doesn't look half bad, are you planning to enter RIWS4 Sparkey?
...Fatigue seems to ruin your extender work.That, or he tries to build the whole thing off a Snapper, which might work better.
...Fatigue seems to ruin your extender work.
dude, you'll be raped with the next SnS and HS you meet. try to either hide the extender or cover it with something, and as i said, make it invertible so that i doesn't get raped by the next VS you meet.Good to see you building to the weight limit, plus a pretty good job making the chassis compact. As Gauche said, having the wheels in the middle will make it tip from front to back. So instead of putting the Z-teks like that, add a pair of 40cms pointing backwards where the drive is now, then put the drive on the end of those and switch to shinies. Then you can lengthen the stabilizers with 20cms.
I spent a very ridiculous amount of my time trying to get this to work, and it wouldn't. The problem was either stability (tipping over) or the wheels wouldn't make contact with the ground...so I just ended up doing this.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/13989Untitled.png)
Maybe my lack of sleep is messing with me, I should probably work on redesigning it when I am more awake.
its not how many baseplate anchors, its how much weight is used to hold everything on/how exposed it is...Fatigue seems to ruin your extender work.
I have it all off of two base plate anchors, is there a more efficient way?
dude, you'll be raped with the next SnS and HS you meet.most narrow bots get raped by sns and hs, this is nothing new, he could think about a wedge or something along those lines to get under bots and gut rip them though
no, usually narrow bot gets raped in about a minute or so, i'm talking about 30 second rape because of that seriously exposed extender.its not how many baseplate anchors, its how much weight is used to hold everything on/how exposed it is...Fatigue seems to ruin your extender work.
I have it all off of two base plate anchors, is there a more efficient way?
you could use ~3 ba's and use 12 kg with no extender work, instead of the 16+ kgs your using right now, and atm theres vunerable extenders (all of those round extenders and t extenders have 100 hp) that any generic popup or hs could flick at and they would instantly fall off in most cases and leave your bot either immobile or severely cripplesdude, you'll be raped with the next SnS and HS you meet.most narrow bots get raped by sns and hs, this is nothing new, he could think about a wedge or something along those lines to get under bots and gut rip them though
looks like ajoke waiting to happen...
i'd see if you could move the wheels up closer to the center so it isn't so "long"...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55784jonzuface2.png)Too slow, change the grannies to shinies and get HPZs.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/49785jonzuface1.png)
1 black, two normal Z-teks
I did that, and it went overweight. It's actually fast enough anyway, at least for me to be able to drive it. I hate sh** that is so fast it bounces all over the arena with no control whatsoever.What do you mean by overweight?
I..really don't know, I swear I tried it and it went over...I don't know I must be trippin'what do you mean? Post the bot(and the weight) with HPZs and shinies and let's see what's the problem.
then it's too tallYeah, I will definitely be re-constructing the whole robot later on today (hopefully after I get some sleep) so I can incorporate better wheels/drive, and hopefully more weapons. I have to say the idea of making caster armored robots that flip themselves over at the beginning of the round is one of the funnest things I have tried in RA2 so far, so expect more of that.
125.9 ?
thats a very underweight bw there sparkey
you should probably try to get it down to aw
This "Jamin" guy ain't too bad of a dude.He is sparkey, in case you didn't know...
What?! Really????!?!!This "Jamin" guy ain't too bad of a dude.He is sparkey, in case you didn't know...
wait what how are these useful wit how you've got them set up?
Le double poston Smokes: can you just use 2 Baseplate Anchors to attach the weapon RADs?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40812Smokes.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43507Intercom.png)
One black man in each of them.
Le double poston Smokes: can you just use 2 Baseplate Anchors to attach the weapon RADs?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40812Smokes.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43507Intercom.png)
One black man in each of them.
Use RAD drive and 2 Z-Teks w/ razors, and possible a snowplow.
Use RAD drive and 2 Z-Teks w/ razors, and possible a snowplow.
no point in changing it to a completely different type of hs.
The HS does use three Ba's...no as in just 3 ba with none of these round extenders
and what is movepixel again? jajajaj
The HS does use three Ba's...no as in just 3 ba with none of these round extenders
and what is movepixel again? jajajaj
and movepixel is in the useful ra2 links thread in general discussion i think, it helps ppl build/stack/adjust chassi 10000x easier
Looks interesting, but is it AI-able?Well, it doesn't actually use the two servo actuators, so I'd assume you'd just be able to AI it to alternate firing the pistons. Would require some timing though, you have to wait for it to reset and stabilize itself after firing one leg (you alternate them) or else it could flip.
hmmm, maybe you could use the 'snappers firing down' thing to make some kind of wedge killer ? kinda like that shw from the borg team in starcore
How much of the setup is to do with movement?
Is it any good at turning?yeah, I guess you could say so. after I fit it with weapons and possibly give it a new skin and all of that I will get a vidya up on youtube somehow
yea kinda like that, i was thinking disks/tribars with weapons on them (like a regular crawler) and have some weapons on snappers/pistons shoot out from insidehmmm, maybe you could use the 'snappers firing down' thing to make some kind of wedge killer ? kinda like that shw from the borg team in starcore
Hmm, what if we made "legs" covered in razors using the same techniques used for putting weaponry on rammers? Would we be able to make a robot that is the opposite of a popup, that walks on the tops of robots and tries to damage them from above?
>You have to wait for the bot to "settle" for a moment (about a second) before you start up the weapon at the start of the round, or else it will fall over
Quote>You have to wait for the bot to "settle" for a moment (about a second) before you start up the weapon at the start of the round, or else it will fall over
That happens with some VS designs.
soooo I tried it out with plastic and a plow and I could only get a single razor on (lel)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/158562012-09-07_00001.jpg)
I know there has to be a more weight efficient way to get the plow on so if one of you could one of you could one of you could one of you could
soooo I tried it out with plastic and a plow and I could only get a single razor on (lel)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/158562012-09-07_00001.jpg)
I know there has to be a more weight efficient way to get the plow on so if one of you could one of you could one of you could one of you could
Instead of using the disc you can probably manage to use extenders without rule of 7 killing the idea. It should give you enough weight for a second razor on the FS.
Extender work is far too messy.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/61542012-09-10_00004.jpg)
It beat 1/100th scale replicas of Beatlebros bots, so thats good right? :>
Try it against Mini - Flaming Whizzer and Mini - Backyard Ripper.
oh and if I spin in place for a moment and then drive strait it can actually "charge" the flail and get it to spin and hit pretty hard without having to sit and....spin.
That happens with horizontal axles, good luck AI'ing that way though :)
how tuff ah ya
yeah i like it
Is flaming Whizzers blade on an RAD or an Axle?
>implying creativityHai Unicorn!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/235452012-09-27_00001.jpg)
@FS : why so big
this took me like five hours to make im def one of the best builders on gtm now here you go
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23151H1E2L3I4E5S6.jpg)
this took me like five hours to make im def one of the best builders on gtm now here you gonice bot
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23151H1E2L3I4E5S6.jpg)