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Robot Arena => Showcases => Stock Showcases => Topic started by: Hydro on May 09, 2009, 08:17:19 PM
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Well, I decided to construct a few stock robots.
here's the first. took 15 minutes to build. and yes, there are irons under the ice picks.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/414091.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/444762.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/512853.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/177424.PNG)
any comments are welcome.
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SQUARE EXTENDERS! :O
Remove those stuff at the back, and add more weapons to the hammers (and curve them). :D
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Don't you already have a showcase?
Pwnator is right, and that chassis is massive.
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yeah, shoulda warned ya about the square extenders.
so rid myself of the stuffs on square extenders and curve the hammers as well as add weapons to them... ok!
*goes to accomplish said tasks*
here you go:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68983screenshot.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/92206screenshot_1.png)
i curved the hammers and added another iron. i also added more batteries.
is it any better?
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that is better :-D but maybe ditch the pinks move the air tank to one of the side areas at the back or if it doesn't fit use ctrl to lift it, then put in a second super volt to replace the pinks you just removed :-D any extra weight just maybe effe in some iron spikes up the black extenders
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i tried that and it didnt work. so, yeah.
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You need more than one black though. Probably at least two.
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then i shall figure out a way. or, i'll just make a new bot. be right back.
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if you need more space things like control boards easily fit on top of supervolts, and base anchors can be put in the middle of control boards (if your patient) you probably could have moved the bursts to the top of the bot and put the air tank below them
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I think that without even stacking, that you have the room for at least two SuperVolts (try removing some of the pinks and relocating the airtank). You also have some weight left over, maybe add some weapons?
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woah Déjà vu haha :-D guess everyone's thinking the same
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tried all of these. it's a lost cause, i'm afraid.
so here's another bot.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55139screenshot_1.bmp)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/85168screenshot_2.bmp)
comments?
edit: ah sh** didnt go to the weight limit...
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not bad but VERY under armed for a heavyweight try getting rid of the iron spikes and putting black extenders right to the edge of the bot and filling them with more razors or iron spikes
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ok... i'll do just that :-D
edit: i hate trying that... it's hard.
is this kinda better?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/32435screenshot_3.bmp)
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You could have a whole row of razors attached to the burst piston by using a t-connector with black extenders coming out of it. I'd ditch the stationary spikes completely to make room for this. 2 black batteries is plenty for 4 HP z-teks. Also, consider swapping the wheels for some that are big enough to make your bot invertible, perhaps the Slipperbottoms?
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You could have a whole row of razors attached to the burst piston by using a t-connector with black extenders coming out of it.
that was my above idea they Hydro said was a pain to do (which it can sometimes be in stock) marked extenders make it easier
@hydro: your still well under there is anther 200kg of weaponry you could add there that's what? 20 iron spikes?
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Seriously Hydro, you have been around longer the newest members and make worse bots than they do!
And there is a way to attach 20cm extenders with ease, without needing to rotate them in order to get the spikes pointed forwards. Just place the fist one to the T extenger by the tops connection point(in the prewiev picture) then the next one with the bottom one and then again the next with the top one, keep repeating that until you are at the limit.
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Seriously Hydro, you have been around longer the newest members and make worse bots than they do!
And there is a way to attach 20cm extenders with ease, without needing to rotate them in order to get the spikes pointed forwards. Just place the fist one to the T extenger by the tops connection point(in the prewiev picture) then the next one with the bottom one and then again the next with the top one, keep repeating that until you are at the limit.
With Tankcat (technically he should count) around, atleast 70% of the community make worse bots.
Ah well. Yeah, the bots could be better. With the realistic rule they might be tougher, but some of them don't even follow that.
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And there is a way to attach 20cm extenders with ease, without needing to rotate them in order to get the spikes pointed forwards. Just place the fist one to the T extenger by the tops connection point(in the prewiev picture) then the next one with the bottom one and then again the next with the top one
thanks! this is a miracle for me. i shall use it now and make a better bot :-D
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Don't push your luck guys. He IS building, which is better than what he did for his first 8 months on the forums.
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so... something like this?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51652screenshot_4.bmp)
no one told me you had to rotate the irons...
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VERY much better. But since you have tons of battery power, you can change the Snapper to a DDT and add more weapons. You have tons of free weight to do that. :D
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VERY much better. But since you have tons of battery power, you can change the Snapper to a DDT and add more weapons. You have tons of free weight to do that. :D
ok. i'll do that. right now i'm juggling typing in the dark, getting ai-ed bots into dsl, and making this bot not suck as much. hands are full, but not as much as say Click's :-D
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im a bot of a perfectionist so I would add an extra black extender on the right hand side to even things up but yeah that's looking quite the killer bot :-D
the shape and the axe reminds me of mortis lol
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ok, i expanded the chassis and still had space issues, so i ditched the hammer and made this:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53527screenshot_5.bmp)
is that better?
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YEEESSS!!!!!
Don't use N-12s though, no matter how cool they look.
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aw, man :-D
those are my favorites...
what wheels do you suggest?
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try shinies (but the chassis must be only 5 pixels high for those to make you invertible), and if those don't work, then use grannies.
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ok. i'll see what i can do.
*goes to edit bot*
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OHHH YYYYYEAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!
And Somebody's right. Use grannies instead.
Oh. And you forgot the control board. I think. I don't see it.
[Edit] Damn, Somebody's fast.
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so am i.
here's a top-down pic:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30434screenshot_6.bmp)
i'll get you a side pic im just a second.
*goes to image uploader*
here you go. as you can see, it's barely invertible. had extra weight/space so i added a nifty.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74226screenshot_7.bmp)
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Save the server - use PNG.
Anyway, it's looking better. Masses of wasted space but a respectable build.
The Nifty was unnecessary - 2 Supervolts are more then enough.
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yeah, space is my next hurdle. right now i'm gonna go baptise this behemoth in fire.
and i'll use png images from now on.
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Ooh. That's a big chassis. Hmmm... you can still make the chassis lower but still be able to house the HPZs. You might also want to consider slimming the chassis down a bit, but that would expose the wheels - your choice. And Redline's right - ditch the nifty. You can also put the control board on top of the Supervolts too. Then with all that extra weight, you can either add another piston with spikes, or put a snapper wedge.
[Edit] I AM A SLOW POSTER. x_x
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It's actually not too bad...
You can get rid of the nifty (2 blacks are more than enough), rebuild the chassis to reduce empty space, and most importantly reduce chassis height to the minimum and get shiny hubs. You'll be invertible with 24kg less spent on wheels.
I'm also pretty sure a large CO2 tank is better than 2 small ones for less weight so you'd be better with just one 14kg CO2 tank rather than 2 10kg ones.
You will be able to add more irons to your upper weapon then.
EDIT: Damn you guys beat me to it.
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now thats a mean stock fighting Machine :-D I know what you mean I like the N-12s too lol I used them on my Brawl of the builders entry
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aw, man! my game crashes when i select an opponent...
:vista:
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did you alter the teams mottos, names etc in the bindings.py ?
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no.
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Just export your bot and download RA2 again (it's in Inf's Summer Magic topic, I believe).
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ok, i'll do that :-D
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I might suggest that after you install/ apply dsl 2 go into the infogames file and copy the robot arena 2 file and paste it in the same place just rename it to something like Robot Arena 2 (backup) and use it as a backup in case anything goes wrong.... also make a 3rd copy for the sole purpose of your tourney :-D
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^^uh, what?
on topic: the link for stock 1.3 doesn't work.
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ACAMS did deleted the stock version by Inf.
Crash when you select an opponent ? Most probably your AI folder hs been damaged.
First install another RA2 version into a new folder, apply the patch (we will call this your new fresh version of RA2, and:
-First try to overwrite your old AI folder with the new one you just installed. You simply copy the new AI folder in the new fresh version of the game you just installed, and you paste it in the main folder of your old (not working) version of RA2.
-If it doesn't works, migrate to the new fresh RA2 version you just installed. Copy your Teams and Robot Designs folders from your old RA2 version and paste them in the main folder of your NEW fresh version of RA2. That will basically import all your bots to the new fresh copy of RA2. And do the same for the corresponding folders if you have custom textures, screenshots, etc...
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i figured it out. the bot numbers were off. so i fixed them, now the game doesn't crash. thank's for the info, though. might help in the future :-D
anyways, imma gonna test it now.
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now that it is working go into C:/program files/infogames and make a copy of that robot arena 2 in case things go bad again :-D
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i will. tested against all stock HW's on The Octogon with 100% success rate!!! yay!!!
edit: also, when i was against Grog, the Warrior, i clipped a heckraiser (floor flipper), flew into the axe and spiked it off while in the air. it was quite commical :-D
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About your bot: You only need one supervolt I believe, so replace the other with more airtanks.
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here's a revised version. also: what should i put there?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/49107screenshot.bmp)
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How about a burst piston that shoots out of the back? You can shave off some weight by replacing the iron spikes with razor tips, which, believe it or not, do the exact same amount of damage.
It'll be a hassle, but if my calculations are correct, you'll end up with 119 Kg to work with.
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ok. i'll see what i can do.
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NO. don't put anything else. make the chassis smaller and rebuild it until theres no empty space (or close to none) then just add more weapons.
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Sage, why didn't you speak up earlier? it's too late now...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/3665screenshot.PNG)
did i do all that for nothing?
so... take out the back facing piston and slim the chassis... ok!
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so, uh, is this what you had in mind? and what can i do to use the extra weight?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5254screenshot.PNG)
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Use Irons.
Also, what armor is that?
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Well that's actually quite a decent bot , but still too big of a chassis.
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dsa.
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use axes. they are best for ramming IMO
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you guys are gonna kill me if this is still too large after my current overhaul.
is THIS good?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14180screenshot.PNG)
0.o it turned into a mw...
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Much better. Try not to have the angle connectors so exposed, and build to the weight limit.
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ok. but right now i'm feeling lazy... i'll do it later.
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Yeah, make the 90 degree angle connectors Ts and add an iron on each.
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ah. ok. i can do that...
edit: so, like, this?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/78609screenshot_1.PNG)
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That MW is a pretty decent bot.
You'd be enough with a Nifty and i think you can use a 20cm extender rather than these tri connectors.
I'm pretty sure you can get 4 more irons on that bot if you rebuild it well.
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well, with a nifty, i can't fit the control board anywhere.
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add more spikes!
edit: oh he did
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I tried a bot like that before as Nary said with the nifty, I just didnt like it. I had the wheels farther back...but yours looks good, actually.
How many airtanks though?
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Stack it in the Nifty then. Or stack the Nifty in the previously attached control board.
It's a pain to do, but you can do it with some patience. You just need to find the good position.
For stacking: http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm
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I tried a bot like that before as Nary said with the nifty, I just didnt like it. I had the wheels farther back...but yours looks good, actually.
How many airtanks though?
just one. i'm gonna go solve that cb/nifty problem now.
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Airtanks = ouch.
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Well Hydro just to show you my own MW poker:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18641mwpoker.PNG)
The small green line at the bottom of the nifty is the control board.
It's decently good, nothing much. Initinally designed to be one of my bots for Inf's AI pack.
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nice looking.
well, here's my bot. it gained some weight :(
couldn't stack the cb/nifty.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/90700screenshot_1.PNG)
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take off the picks
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oh picks! i thought you said "pics" as in "pictures".
i will brb...
picks removed :-D
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/33611screenshot_2.PNG)
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now remove the t connector and put a round black extender there.
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like this?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/42772screenshot.PNG)
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No, sort of like you would attach spikes on a 36 iron hs. Attach an extender on the side attachment point of another extender.
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oh! now i get it. make two rows of irons. ok.
like this?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/87191screenshot.PNG)
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better make it a mw and try for a loong time to get the cb into the nifty.
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oy vey. you guys are KILLING me!!!
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What doesn't kill you makes you a better builder.
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sheesh. me thinks i wanna try again with a different chassis and maybe make it a rammer like the one on the Beetle Brother's site.
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whatever. its your showcase. put whatever you want in it.
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here it is, Maming & Slaughter v. 20-ish...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25967screenshot.PNG)
what should i do to improve this device?
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Alright. Longer wedges, more weapons, slimmer chassis.
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so... like, say, add 20 cm to the wedges, 40+ cm of spikes, and slim the chassis... ok!
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Also, try this. Before building the whole bot, just put 2 Supervolts side-to-side (like you did in the pic) and check if there is some empty space. Then just go back and tweak it again until you are satisfied. :D
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ok. well, here it is:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/19113screenshot.PNG)
that any better?
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A bit better, but you still have enough weight to put another wedge. Also, instead of putting the baseplate far back, put it in front to remove the extender and use it to attach more spikes.
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ok. i'll be back...
for this i decided Nifty + Nifty + 2KGS = Supervolt, so i did what i could to fit it all.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/9915screenshot.PNG)
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It looks a lot worse than it did before....
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the MW looked good. the HW, no. Did you get any more Airtanks on the MW?
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God i suck at this >.< ...
actually, that's what became of the MW
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It got worse.
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i need to try to build a spinner...
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Check out how Lethal Force (SCv4) was made, and try to replicate it.
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Mame and Slaughter only needs 1 black. Rammers don't consume alot of batteries.
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i wish i would have known this earlier...
@ Pwn: something like Spiker 3?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41008screenshot.PNG)
this bot is REALLY old. has a 98% success rate tested on random arenas against random bots.
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OVERKILL ON THE PISTONS AND TANKS.
Hmmm...seems like the new Lethal Force isn't in the wiki yet.
It looks like this:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56889lethalforce.png)
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OMG.
but yeah, it's kinda overkill. and i made it before i knew about dsa >.<
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I'm not sure whether that was updated by ACAMS or Starcore, but I'm only showing you the point of 'fitting the chassis to the components' and not the other way around.
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i really suck at that kind of thing... takes too much time. all i wanna build is something that will beat the crap out of the stock HW's.
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Which is why you can earn other peoples' respect if you try.
@ ACAMS - is that the maximum amount of posts a user can have? :P
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Good effort, Hydro. Be patient, you've got some very good builders helping you.
@ - is that the maximum amount of posts a user can have? :P
Since he's turned in for the night, I'll answer your inquiry: 'No.'
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so... something like this only with a piston?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73694screenshot.PNG)
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For the fifth time make your chassis smaller...
Just build something similar to Lethal Force but without wedges and 2 pistons as well as a large air tank.
Cloning a bot is alright if you're still in the learning phase; then when you start to be good, it's frowned upon.
Also i think you can ask an admin to rename your showcase to Hydro's Stock Bots... they're not that poorly built.
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well... i wish i would have seen this before, but oh well...
progress report:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/3361screenshot.PNG)
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Not bad.
Only thing you need to do now is just getting 1 large air tank rather than 2 small ones, and reduce chassis space again by turning that black 90 degrees. (i've rebuilt PitA 8's chassis more than 15 times you know)
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i turned it like that so i could fit the air tanks... oh well. i'll see what i can do when i get home from school.
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progress report:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86025screenshot.PNG)
chassis still too big i know, but other than that, how it be?
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Hmmm... other than that, pretty much nothing else. Maybe you can rotate the tank 90 degrees and squeeze the HPZs inward. This should give you enough weight (hopefully) for more irons. :D
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yeesh.
i'll do it later... watching robot wars on youtube :-D
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CROP YOUR GODDAMN PICTURES
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as you wish.
progress report:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/96432screenshot.PNG)
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<3 <3 <3
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small enough then? or what?
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Well it's probably five times better than the first one. A little more battery power would be good though.
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i shall do what i can :-D
edit: it looks as if there is not enough weight left to add batteries.
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Well, now that you can build good pokers and rammers, you can further expand your bot building skills by trying another thing.
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hmm... i'll go try to make a spinner of some kind.
edit: here's a lw spinner. haven't named it yet, but it's here.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62854screenshot.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18139screenshot_1.PNG)
what say you?
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It would work in DSL, but it would be a horizontal SFTW in Stock.
Please check the other Stock showcases for LW HS ideas, and here: http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm
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yeah, took 3 minutes to build. i think i'll make a hw hs tonight.
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One Nifty is enough for a LW Spinner.
Use Maces, Iron Spikes, or Razor Tips.
Stronger weapon motor.
Shiny Hubs.
Shrink Chassis.
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Dang...I LOST!! Good match Hydro.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55067lost.PNG)
...JK. 40757 is right, though.
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Basic, but nice.
You need to Download UBERMOD AI. that got me into what makes a decent bot. Then go starcore.
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Just go Starcore V1 already... no one uses Ubermod.
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Don't use lawnmower blades, and do build to the weight limit.
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Just go Starcore V1 already... no one uses Ubermod.
Because you keep preaching like Bush.
SC1 is probably a tad harder than Hydro can handle. He used a damn Mower and a RAD as a weapon For crying out loud! Even RFS AI doesn't use that style of bot!
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That's not by fighting against poor bots that you're gonna improve quickly...
Sage went directly to Stock from Starcore V3 (note that i won't recommend it). Look where his bot building is now.
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Yeah, I went from stock to SC3 also.
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I also went straight from Stock to Starcore V3.
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i went from stock to v3 also
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Basic, but nice.
You need to Download UBERMOD AI. that got me into what makes a decent bot. Then go starcore.
RAGE 2 is definitly the good transition.
have also a look at the glitch vids
https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=866
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Ok, let him DL a bunch of HS.
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That's not by fighting against poor bots that you're gonna improve quickly...
Sage went directly to Stock from Starcore V3 (note that i won't recommend it). Look where his bot building is now.
I went stock, SC3, own-custom AI, Soveirns' AI pack, stock, own-custom AI, SC3, stock, GE, SC2, now I'll probably go back to SC3, and those snapper-loaded HSs and VSs STILL baffle me.
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i went straight to starcore v3
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Ya already said that...
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oh...
stupid me not looking up high enough on the thread
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Do you really need that much attention on a forum kiddo?
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sometimes...
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Does anybody remember that this was once Hydro's showcase? I know he hasn't posted any bots on here lately, but I think if everyone wants to comment weather or not they went straight on to SC3, they should do it somewhere else, maybe general discussion.
Not ranting, just saying...
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Does anybody remember that this was once Hydro's showcase? I know he hasn't posted any bots on here lately, but I think if everyone wants to comment weather or not they went straight on to SC3, they should do it somewhere else, maybe general discussion.
Not ranting, just saying...
Well, guess you can say we're making Hydro's showcase as useless-post saturated as it should be.
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Very true actually. Give Hydro a taste of his own medicene. Wonder if he still likes cheese...?
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I think he likes spam more.
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Aah. Wonderful spam.
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Yay! Maps!
Who wan't to find as many anagrams for "hydrocarbon spammer"?
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Who wants to make a 9x Double Post of Death?
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not me!
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Dammit Roboman!!! Me and S32 were on a role!!!!
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well la ti da cuz i dont care
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this discussion is funny. i think i'll let it continue...
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on another note, here's my first attempt at what i believe is called a popup.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55552screenshot.PNG)
comments?
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you need a sloped front.
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its kinda hard to tell at that angle, but it is sloped.
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thats more of a vertical front than a slanted one. you want it at least 45 degrees.
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What they said, AND less empty space.
It's not bad for a first popup though.
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Also, it is obvious that that bot does not qualify as a MW.
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uhh, is it supposed to be a mw?
edit: aw, man! my game did the grey screen of death thing again...
anyone know where to download it for free?
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you could take all the ui, ai components and arenas folders and stick them in sages dsl 2.1 ready to go pack.
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uh, what?
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I don't have the disc anymore, but maybe someone else would like to upload it to megaupload? that would help the community a lot.
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Roboman's idea wont work