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Robot Arena => Showcases => Stock Showcases => Topic started by: Enoch on February 15, 2011, 02:20:40 PM
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well i was asked to post up a showcase, well here is the bot i made joking around that beat all but 3 of the heavyweight class bots in the Starcore AI pack...... im certain there is room for improvement as i can see flaws myself but im still open to constructive criticism:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94382untitled1.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/16425untitled2.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62614untitled3.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/83359untitled4.PNG)
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Looks neat.
Don't use anglers, and build to the weight limit.
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i know anglers are bad but i havent figured out another way to go from a 45 angle to a 90 angle without one.... and i for sure havent figured out how to go from 0 angle to 22.5 angle without one lol..... as for weight.. well... im not sure what else to add? i suppose i could go from iron spikes to double stacked razors but i prefer the iron spikes since they dont snap off as easy.... not sure exactly what to add so i didnt lol
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Have a look at this:
http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm)
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i have read that a few times... sadly i discovered many of those "glitches" before i read it via experimentation.... and i didnt see a method for replacing angles other than snapper stacking which is less effective in this case although i have a few bots that do use that method ^^
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Good to hear!
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Needs moar wedge.
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You can easily use 20CM extenders to substitute for angle connectors. And those extenders in the middle are very exposed. Good for a first bot though. After what you said, I was really suspecting custom components. You also only need 2 blacks and have you downloaded the AI Components? When you remove a black remove both side ones and place a new one in the middle. Then get some wedges on Snapper2s. And you don't need the wheelguards.
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Your creativity is spiffy. Welcome to the forums and enjoy the growth of your showcase. With some sage advice, your building style will improve.
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With some sage advice, your building style will improve.
Thanks for the introduction!
It's not my place to give general tips (I'm better consulted for tweaking more advanced robots), so perhaps some of the other guys can enlighten you on extender use, wedges, empty space, battery usage, and unnecessary rear armor.
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thanks all... its not a first bot though, and i wasnt actually trying hard when i made this one(it took me 20 minutes) it is my first showcased bot though... you would all have laughed at my very first bot xD big box of sawblades lol i know its not effective but one of my favorite battlebots was a giant cube of sawblades and he did aight, physics engine is slightly off in this game i spose since saws do next to nothing for dmg -.- ..... sage do you have a showcase of the top left bot in your sig? it looks fairly interesting but i cant see it too good lol ill post a more space efficient bot of mine in a bit do i just keep posting bots on this showcase or do i have to make a new one for each bot?
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Nope keep posting in this showcase. Pretty much everybody has showcases, you just have to look (they get buried). And usually a first showcased bot isn't much better then a first bot, so a first showcased bot is what a lot of people go by.
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sage do you have a showcase of the top left bot in your sig? it looks fairly interesting but i cant see it too good lol ill post a more space efficient bot of mine in a bit do i just keep posting bots on this showcase or do i have to make a new one for each bot?
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=755.660 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=755.660)
scroll down a bit
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aight thanks ^^
here ill post another bot since im bored lol
shredder:
18 razor tips(triple stacked)
2 HP z-tek wep motors
4 rev-angle drive motors with mini wheels
2 supervolts
too dang many pinks to care to count :P
stable drive due to carefully balanced centrifugal force(one spins one way the other the other way)
ram plates on top becouse i had a small problem with a hammer bot >_<
i personally hate this bot, i couldnt fill the weight inside the chassis right and i couldnt get the supervolts to stack -.-
and before someone says "too many batteries" i run out of juice in about 2 minutes so i have to kill em fast(good thing he does like 2k points of dmg per hit ^^)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/93816shredder1.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/83520Shredder2.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70743shredder3.PNG)
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actually, technically you only need 1 black for that bot. Get rid of some batteries (i would reccomend 2 blacks though) and more motors with more weapons.
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most matches these days last under 1 minute, so yeah you only need 2 blacks. also ditch the rads and just use 2 hp zteks for drive.
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Weight Limit?
Like the weapon set-up though.
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Try building to the weight limit and use a black battery for this.
And i hope we don't have another redace :rage
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what do you mean "And i hope we don't have another redace"? and i built it to like 796.3 or something by adding 2 more hp ztek weapons o.O its a lil scary now lol im almost afraid to hit things it just kinda tosses both of us lol ill post screenies in a lil bit
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what do you mean "And i hope we don't have another redace"? and i built it to like 796.3 or something by adding 2 more hp ztek weapons o.O its a lil scary now lol im almost afraid to hit things it just kinda tosses both of us lol ill post screenies in a lil bit
:laughing
Go have a look at his stock showcase.
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ok, i read carefully through 10 pages and decided i was bored, do i have to read farther to find what your talkin about? only similarity i can see at the moment is that we both understand how to use snappers to stack.... and one other similarity but alas you wouldnt know it since i havent displayed it yet... ill give you a hint, i love wedge bots ^^i thought to post my favorite one right now but i was thinkin to enter it in BOTM for the lol's(doubtful id win though) mine is only vaguely similar to his though, but its a wedge, i mean, how different can they be? well... im rambling lol, so perhaps i missed what u meant please explain further or post a more specific page, 25+ pages is more than i feel like "skimming" through at 3 am lol
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Erm, yes, I imagine he'll have just been trying to complement you as redace got very good at stock, very quickly.
But, no, you're far from his level at the moment.
Still, you've got some of the basics down well so far, not bad for first couple of bots, just listen to advice given and you'll carry on improving easily.
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i fixed shredder a lil bit:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/97959shred1.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/63269shred2.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50940shred3.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15648shred4.PNG)
and alas im done with him unless i get some great advice(i feel he is a lost cause tho) there isnt much i can do to make him better withiout starting all over.....
and as for me being like redace there is a HUGE difference between us... he got all his designs from you guys, i came up with mine before i knew you guys existed ^^
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i fixed shredder a lil bit:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/97959shred1.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/63269shred2.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50940shred3.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15648shred4.PNG)
Me like. :claping
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Chassis is way too big, also, you only need 2 snappers for all those motors. (the blue snappers). Get rid of the 4 wheel drive and mount hpz outside the chassis.
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Screw efficiency. THAT LOOKS COOL.
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well this one atm is my favorite, wasnt gonna post it, but i need advice lol..... every time i give it a second wedge(even at same height and angle) i lose the ability to go under anything :( but i cant just have the 1 flipper because when i AI him some of the bots with far spaces little wedges go around mine and mine slides into a hole of nothingness >_< now when i drive it myself i have beaten(easily i might add for most) all but 2 opponents(SHW-Alligator - not a very fair match in the first place, and neglected waterbug i think is its name - for some reason i cannot get under it even though its wedges are crap lol) i have the Starcore v3 the BBEANS and Sovereign i think(which was kinda too easy) AI packs so he has been battle tested.... AI cant drive him right though so i need a second wedge(or to get an AI that intentionally hits at an angle instead of straight ^^)
either or here he is:
Hell Bent -
2 stacked supervolts
2 nifty's
a multitude of pink batts(10 i think)
~3400 input total
2 HP Z-tek drives with rubber wheels EDIT: there shiny hub wheels my bad
5 DDT's
2 snapper2's
3600 total output if im driving and using wep/ 2800 while sitting and wep(max power for best weapons)/ 800 while driving
12 razors
emergency flipper(hate the looks but best wedge according to all my tests)
and cant forgot my favorite part xD Starfighter chassis design lol(look close and youll understand)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/16588untitled.PNG)
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/59794untitled3.PNG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95107untitled4.PNG)
and for the record he is one mean bot.... i get alot of 1hit ko's... more 2 hits but still enough of em to mention it...... oh and this is rendition like 8 lol if anyone cares to see em i got the first - third models still u can see alot changin very quickly lol this was like my third project to start ^^
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That's some funky stuff you got there.
Can't really give you much effective advice if you want to retain its aesthetics, but replace all those nifties and pinks with 2 blacks and it's fine for now. :D
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i tried to slide blacks in there :( sadly they wouldnt fit, besides if i swapped all of em for blacks i would actually lose output power(only 200 but im already 200 short) since i have an immensly hard time stacking blacks >_<
and the chassis isnt just aesthetic ^^ the V in the front funnels bots easier so once there climbing they cant slide off and the rear deflects alot of attacks xD
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Actually, you can make do with having a simple sloped rear if you want to deflect flanked attacks (though sloping sides is more logical than sloping the rear), so that funky stuff (that eats a lot of weight) at the rear's more into aesthetics than into performance.
As for the battery power, popups aren't meant for endurance anyway. It's not like the matches will last more than 2 minutes. :P
So yeah, I'll leave the more generic advice to others. XD
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Nice! Just so you know, Neglected Waterbug has the best wedges in Starcore 3, so don't feel bad if you can't get under it. Also, you don't need the pinks. Awesome look though
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ya know its kinda funny like that.... i get under the wedges just fine lol but its like his chassis is 5k kilotons of weight o.O even pushing against a wall he just wont budge any farther than the back of the wedge bars lol and if i hit him from behind or a tire/side i just glance harmlessly away?? anyhoo..... and i do need all them pinks.... i hit roughly 2.5k dmg per swat like this and without em(removed for side armor) i barely can hit 1k and my DDT's dont snap down fast enough(or hard enough to apply pressure on my wedge) im not sure if u noticed but there is 10 pinks there not just 4 i actually get 1/3 of my power from em lol
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It might be to do with the angle of your front wedge being so steep. PitA 8 had a similar problem in BBEANS 5, IIRC. Popups are quite highly dependent on their drivetrain, though, so you might want to get 4WD on there somehow, and also to have perhaps two wedges spaced apart a bit, to make it easier to get underneath the opponent.
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sadly my bot is slow and ill admit it :( although if i lose my wedge i can outrun some 4 wheelers, and from my expereince(as limited as it may be) in a popup vs popup match the faster one always loses(they kinda ramp right over the slow one) but like i said my experience is limited... thanks for the advice ill look into it more... and do you know where i can look at PitA8 to compare flaws?
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There's a RA2Wiki page about it, but speed tends not to have much of an effect on wedginess, unless you're playing in a particularly bumpy arena. It's more about the angle and weight distribution.
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Small wedges are better for wedginess.
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Needs moar wedge.
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Hell Bent's skin badass.
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well heres a bot i made purely in jest.... my friend and i were laughing about the icanhazcheeseburgers site and playing ra2 and had a ridiculous idea for a bot, this is the result lol.....
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50845ICanHazUrTirezPl0x.PNG)
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@Enoch: If you like that site, you could always try joining it for a bit.
They have a pretty good image editor.
Its somewhat low-tech, but its the good kind of low-tech.
(by that, I mean the ability to place text all over and in any possible direction)
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HURRAY FOR EYE RAPING SKIN
If you want a good example of an undercutter HS, try Tidal Wave on Starcore's EotS team.
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@Naryar lol yep eye raping skin and tire raping weapons - tidal wave is ok... except the spinners are weak 3 hpz'd hs would be more effective and less gaudy..... and im not sure if i was goin for undercutter? i have them at the PERFECT height to eat the opponents tires, be they minis or the big ones he uses... go to the exchange and d/l him and go for there tires... then youll see xD
@j idk i like alot of there demotivationals but im not interested in photo-manipulation, thusoff, why all my pics are done with a screenshot and paint lol... i might look into it tho if its free and easy, thx....
EDIT: fixed a small typo
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Yes, this is an undercutter. Undercutter = HS very low to the ground.
And Tidal Wave's RAD spam was done on purpose. It can be quite annoying if it gets under you, and it's not especially easy to get under straight with a long wedge cause it's just a big mess of spinners, done on purpose again.