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Title: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on January 16, 2017, 12:23:44 PM
Hello and welcome to my not-so fabulous Stock Showcase.For myself, I've been playing RA2 for sometime after downloading DSL a few months ago, but soon I got bored with DSL because of my terrible building skills so I decided to build on Stock instead. So without further or do, here is a middle-weight pop-up I've been building and changing for sometime. Please ignore the skin since I applied the skin for a few good laughs.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41251Amour-popup.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4559Amour-popup insides.jpg)

Please feel welcome to give me feedback. Also, I'll put the bot in the bot exchange if anyone does want to play around with it. It should be called Amour-popup if you need to know.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Jammy Dodger on January 16, 2017, 12:37:27 PM
Not bad for a newcomer! Wedges are better on Snappers (green ones) and there extender setup can be better via attaching a extender on the side of another extender :3
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: kix on January 16, 2017, 12:39:32 PM
Not bad! Welcome to GTM!
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on January 16, 2017, 12:57:50 PM
Not bad for a newcomer! Wedges are better on Snappers (green ones) and there extender setup can be better via attaching a extender on the side of another extender :3
Thanks for the advice. I didn't mention that the chassis is somewhat quite small and the alignment needs working on. I'll try moving some of the pop-up snappers around so I can fit the green snappers in the chassis. For the extenders, they can be easily adjusted, no problem.
 I'll see what I can do for now and I'll give an update for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dreamcast on January 16, 2017, 02:00:59 PM
Your bot's unprotected sides give away free hits. Try to make the chassis wider and shorter. Make sure to attach your razors so that they are symmetrically aligned and do more damage.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on January 16, 2017, 02:12:58 PM
Ok. Here's an update on the Robot.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/67503Amour-popup 2 insides.jpg)
Your bot's unprotected sides give away free hits. Try to make the chassis wider and shorter. Make sure to attach your razors so that they are symmetrically aligned and do more damage.
Don't worry Dreamcast, I'll get to work on this ASAP.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Jammy Dodger on January 16, 2017, 02:17:09 PM
better but get rid of the t connectors as they take up alot of weight :3
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Reier on January 16, 2017, 04:22:16 PM
this will help out a lot (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm), especially on how to use extenders.

but good work. keep it up
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Fracture on January 16, 2017, 07:32:46 PM
Good. Use multiple 20cm extenders for the wedge since they each have the same health as a long one, add a battery (which one depends on how much you want and if you're willing to rebuild), and use two 20cm extenders on each DDT to get your three razors. You'll need the eFFe glitch if you don't know it yet. And...how long did that skin take to make?
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on February 03, 2017, 03:23:59 PM
After not playing stock for awhile, I felt like I wanted another good go at Stock building. So I played around with the Efffe glitch to make this middle-weight (at least 388 KG), Vortex. It's not prefect but I'm planning to build a heavy weight version of this. So feel free to say anything about it for now.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25819Vortex_insides.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/67017Vortex.jpg)

If you are wondering about the razors, that was because I didn't want to force the robot over weight. This is the reason for the heavy-weight version.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dreamcast on February 03, 2017, 03:42:05 PM
You can conserve weight and ditch the razors by attaching the motors to a single blue snapper.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on February 13, 2017, 08:34:05 AM
Something I've been working on during my break (Yes, I only got bored playing DSL but not stock, to a degree). I'm aware it's not finished and still flawed, but I still need some input on how to improve the design of this bot.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30493WIP.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15835WIP_Insides.jpg)
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Reier on February 13, 2017, 08:59:56 AM
since you have so much weight to work with you definitely need to make it wider and with a shallower front, combined with more front armor like ramplates or something. I wouldn't be against making the drive wider to help turnspeed

also I'm pretty sure 2 black batts is the minimum for hw popups
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Badger on February 13, 2017, 09:09:52 AM
In addition to what Reier said, it can't hurt to spam more razorz, or add some "horns" like R4 to help with getting a perfect 1st hit, which is so important for popups.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on February 13, 2017, 09:10:48 AM
since you have so much weight to work with you definitely need to make it wider and with a shallower front, combined with more front armor like ramplates or something. I wouldn't be against making the drive wider to help turnspeed

also I'm pretty sure 2 black batts is the minimum for hw popups
Pretty sure you noted about there only being one black Supervolt. I had difficulty trying to stack the battery into the other, even when I followed a tutorial for battery stacking and hitting F12 on the keyboard. I'll get to work on it as soon as I can. 
In addition to what Reier said, it can't hurt to spam more razorz, or add some "horns" like R4 to help with getting a perfect 1st hit, which is so important for popups.
More RAZORS?
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Badger on February 13, 2017, 09:14:31 AM
since you have so much weight to work with you definitely need to make it wider and with a shallower front, combined with more front armor like ramplates or something. I wouldn't be against making the drive wider to help turnspeed

also I'm pretty sure 2 black batts is the minimum for hw popups
Pretty sure you noted about there only being one black Supervolt. I had difficulty trying to stack the battery into the other, even when I followed a tutorial for battery stacking and hitting F12 on the keyboard. I'll get to work on it as soon as I can. 
In addition to what Reier said, it can't hurt to spam more razorz, or add some "horns" like R4 to help with getting a perfect 1st hit, which is so important for popups.
More RAZORS?
MOAR RAZORZ

But yeah, stacking sometimes takes a while. It helps if you're running RA2 at 1080p and have a decent mouse, I've found. Just keep jiggling the battery inside the other one in little circles, changing camera angle every 10 seconds. You should also zoom all the way in, using the chassis or paintlab tabs. Moving the battery between the z-teks also makes your wheelbase wider and frees up some space the front, which you can use to make your wedge shallower
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Jammy Dodger on February 13, 2017, 09:21:11 AM
since you have so much weight to work with you definitely need to make it wider and with a shallower front, combined with more front armor like ramplates or something. I wouldn't be against making the drive wider to help turnspeed

also I'm pretty sure 2 black batts is the minimum for hw popups
Pretty sure you noted about there only being one black Supervolt. I had difficulty trying to stack the battery into the other, even when I followed a tutorial for battery stacking and hitting F12 on the keyboard. I'll get to work on it as soon as I can. 
In addition to what Reier said, it can't hurt to spam more razorz, or add some "horns" like R4 to help with getting a perfect 1st hit, which is so important for popups.
More RAZORS?
MOAR RAZORZ

But yeah, stacking sometimes takes a while. It helps if you're running RA2 at 1080p and have a decent mouse, I've found. Just keep jiggling the battery inside the other one in little circles, changing camera angle every 10 seconds. You should also zoom all the way in, using the chassis or paintlab tabs. Moving the battery between the z-teks also makes your wheelbase wider and frees up some space the front, which you can use to make your wedge shallower
^ this also try and make the wedge a little bit wider so HS'es will just slide up also you might want to make the wedges a lil bit longer as then you can get under robots more better
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on March 28, 2017, 10:44:59 AM
This showcase feels more dusty than my DSL showcase. Still, this is a Pop-Up that I've been working on for Crapcan Derby 2.
Yes, it's still in the line of the amour-pop up series but I thought this is one of the best middle weight pop-ups I've built.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15325Amour.jpg)
 Now I'm debating about the wedges as one of the extenders of each wedge appears to be vulnerable to damage. Should I keep them as they are, or reduce the total length of them both?
Edit: More Razors?
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Jammy Dodger on March 28, 2017, 11:06:16 AM
needs a more shallow chassis wedge and maybe go for just the one wedge for more razors?
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on March 28, 2017, 11:29:19 AM
needs a more shallow chassis wedge and maybe go for just the one wedge for more razors?
I can go with three on one of the connecting extenders as seen on my WIP heavy-weight if you want me to? I've tried it before on this bot, and it pushes the weight to 399 KG dead on which is on the limit of most Middle-Weights on the forums. I was also debating that before I debated on the wedges.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Jammy Dodger on March 28, 2017, 11:38:02 AM
yeah that will help, or you can try and re-effe the whole extender set up and effe the 3rd extender in. will show a pic soon
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on April 23, 2017, 07:42:11 AM
Ok, after a hour or so of debating with myself, I had finally decided that I will in-fact enter Badnik's Mafia tournament. For the pure reason of laughs and also to learn a few lessons in bot building as always. So for the tournament, I decided to experiment with a HS, a bot type that I'm not entirely used to building in Stock but decided to give it a go anyway. Here it is:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58994Another_rushed_entry.jpg)
I'm aware that this bot is a little underweight and I couldn't eFFe extra extenders, due to the Rule of Seven in my way. But please, feedback is accepted and tell me what you think.
Note: I've sent this entry to Badnik already but carry on as normal. Also this entry hasn't been rush, it's just the signups close today explaining the name.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Pwnator on April 23, 2017, 08:18:59 AM
No shame in using T or Y connectors if it makes the bot symmetrical (and is lighter than your setup too). Not sure why the chassis seems long. I'm assuming the plow is on an anchor, so my advice would be to attach it to the snapper's hidden attachment point instead (2 20cms would be ideal). This pulls the plow into the casters, which maximizes protection.

And as always, tighten up your chassis. Move the redbirds closer to the snapper and get rid of the space around them. If you can stack the CB into the black, you can also lower the chassis down to the height of the black.

With a lot of weight freed, there's multiple ways to finish the bot. You could add more weapons to the spinners (might have to turn them to razors though), add weapon rack alongside the plow and casters (you might be able to afford 4 maces/irons or 6 razors), or just dump more plows and stuff.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on May 04, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
Just want to show this one off, which I've built some time ago. The very point of this bot is that: I finally found a way on how to Effe in a third extender onto a pop-up set-up and looking back at it, I felt like I've done well. This is completely made as an experiment, so it has some easily noted flaws like the large chasis. But Feedback is always welcome:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22777screenshot_4.jpg)
Also Pwnator if you are on, I had a go a trying to getting the plow of ARB using the hidden extender on the snapper, to overlap with the casters on the front. It hasn't gone too well since I haven't manged to get the plow to be in line with the rest of the extenders. But I'm still trying and I'll post the results soon. 
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Meganerdbomb on May 04, 2017, 03:17:41 PM
That's a solid beginner popup. If you decide to rework the chassis though,  I suggest making the front a bit shallower.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Pwnator on May 05, 2017, 02:47:40 AM
One of the more overlooked things in building LWs and MWs is pushing it to the weight limit. While the build is clean, it performs so much better with a shallower chassis. Make a copy of the bot, remove everything, and take note of the chassis weight. You could rebuild it to have a longer base (with the same top) and have it weigh ~3 kg heavier. This improves both the combat ability, and survivability of the bot.

Liking the progress you've been making so far.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on September 29, 2017, 10:37:28 AM
Time to dust off this thread by showing you lot my CF, butt-****ery for Wen and the damn war. So after debating with myself over what to enter, I decided to just go overkill with this entry I'm going to enter.
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As always, please give feedback and try not to rage about me using Cf, since the tournament allows CF as stated in the rules.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: 090901 on September 29, 2017, 10:40:32 AM
just make the chassis a tiny cube with everything in it since RA2CF is allowed.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 29, 2017, 10:43:08 AM
just make the chassis a tiny cube with everything in it since RA2CF is allowed.

And aside from the lighter chassis, you'll only need around 6 casters to protect the bot. You could probably dump in another black just in case.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on September 29, 2017, 10:45:49 AM
just make the chassis a tiny cube with everything in it since RA2CF is allowed.

And aside from the lighter chassis, you'll only need around 6 casters to protect the bot. You could probably dump in another black just in case.
I'm already working on a new version based on your feedback, but thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on September 29, 2017, 11:24:45 AM
Right, this is the new version of Russian Overkill for Wen and the Damn War:
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When I was building this, I thought about adding another weapon motor in, but due to weight problems I couldn't fit one in due to that extra weapon set up pushing the Bot overweight. So is it better now?
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 29, 2017, 11:25:44 AM
just dump more casters or another black
Title: Re: Dark-Al's stock showcase
Post by: Dark-Al on September 29, 2017, 11:28:46 AM
just dump more casters or another black
I wouldn't be to sure about the last option? My Bot already has about 5 blacks loaded in, which is more than enough for any stock bot. But, I'll take the caster option then.