Calmarius' stock showcase

[Badger]

In general, winning VS AI while driving yourself doesn't mean much, as it's not too hard to outsmart the AI. If your bot was controlled by the AI too I think it would get handled pretty easily =P

I can see that you're changing things around to improve the bot, which is good and it's getting better, but to get competitive at stock you need to learn glitches like the effe glitch and snapper loading. A bpt built without those glitches is not gonna have a good time in stock, for the most part.

Also, most popups have 2 wedges, on on either side, using the blue small wedges rather then emergency wedges, that might be something you want to look into.


Sage made a great thread with video tutorials on all the glitches that you'll need, which is super handy. Click here to view it.

[Gauche Suede]

If you're having trouble with stacking, use movepixel, it's a tool that moves the cursor 1 pixel at a time so you can literally shift the items around until you get the stack instead of having to rub the mouse for 15 minutes and hope that you get the stack.

[Calmarius]

If your bot was controlled by the AI too I think it would get handled pretty easily =P

I see that AI stuff are done using Python language, but I'm still in doubt what are possibilities.
Is it possible to access the opponent's position and facing real time? If yes, then perhaps I can take the challenge of making a smart AI that attempts to dodge an flank the opponent.

[Silverfish]

You probably still won\t be able to win against robots like Mome Rath though, because that bot was specifically made to beat popups.

(of course probably I will never be able to make an AI that can do this again.)

I've done the same thing with Gravitic Reversal IV, and I still find that impressive. (shout out to really old bots)
Also, for an hw popup, you really only need two supervolts. Maybe 3. Even WITH the 4 ddts.
Finally, how many razors at this point?

[Calmarius]

In this iteration I used snappers to fold the wheels into the chassis, this way I could reduce the height.

Also added 2 large wedges instead of the one. The small wedges might be more wedgy but the opponent's wedges hitting me at an unwedged part is a bigger concern... I can avoid this by careful driving but if I AI the bot it probably won't be that careful.

Also it seems 3 supervolts can power 5 DDTs with 10 razors fine.

[Sage]

getting better! i think we all gave our 2cents already, just keep experimenting and posting :)

[R1885]

I've powered six active DDTs on three blacks before, so you have just enough power there.

You should make sure the hp zteks have the flat side facing down, that way you can run rubbers on it.

Blue snappers make the worst wedges possible, I'd suggest making weight for snapper 2 wedges.


Also, the design heavily reminds me of Surgical Strike.

[Gauche Suede]

I know you've sworn to never use glitches but there's a MUCH lighter way to attach the drive which would let you attach some armor on the bot.

Oh, and one more thing, when you're using SnapperII wedges NEVER EVER attach anything to the other attachment point, doing that makes the wedges more than useless and will cost you a tournament which is how Psycolone found about this the hard way.

[Calmarius]

I made a middleweight (9 razors, 3 DDTs):



And a lightweight version (4 razors, 1 DDT):



of my popup.

The reduced mass limit makes it hard to fit everything into the chassis, also horizontal spinners are a bigger threat now, the only chance against them is a lucky hit that can detach their tribars or spinner motors, otherwise it's not possibe to approach or penetrate their shield of razors (octomini xtreme was the most frustrating experience I ever had this game, perhaps I needed 20-30 attempts just to beat it once. )

One cannot fight scissors with paper.

[Thrackerzod]

Good work on space management!  Unfortunately, SnapperIIs (the blue bursts) usually make terrible wedges.  You'll want to try to upgrade to Snapper2s (green and purple). 

How many batteries are in the MW?

[Virus Bomb]

nah blue snapper wedges are fine if there's no extra stuff on them, like motors. the lw popup is too slow though and has to be wider and more shallow if you want it to perform better against hses.

[DeadGenocide]

Good work on space management!  Unfortunately, SnapperIIs (the blue bursts) usually make terrible wedges.  You'll want to try to upgrade to Snapper2s (green and purple). 

How many batteries are in the MW?

SnapperIIs (the blue bursts) usually make terrible wedges.

U ****ing wot

[09090901]

as long as it can self-right, the blue snapper is fine.

never seen mw popup that uses 3 DDTs for weapons before, i like it. it does need a longer wedge though, and 1 black is a little on the low side for all the motors. also, making the chassis wedge wider and more shallow would make it better against hs.

Good work on space management!  Unfortunately, SnapperIIs (the blue bursts) usually make terrible wedges.  You'll want to try to upgrade to Snapper2s (green and purple). 

How many batteries are in the MW?

SnapperIIs (the blue bursts) usually make terrible wedges.

U f'ing wot

gtfo

[Mr. AS]

Getting snapper wedges onto a LW usually isn't that big of a concern as there are more HS/rammers to worry about than anything else.

[Thrackerzod]

nah blue snapper wedges are fine if there's no extra stuff on them

Really?  I always thought they were terrible.  Well, learn something new every day, I guess.

[Naryar]

SnapperIIs (the blue bursts) usually make terrible wedges.

U f'ing wot

gtfo

I want none of this in a new member's showcase ! I'll be watching this thread, so behave.

And DG, please do not argue over RA2 with stock builders that have about five times your experience, thank you.

[DeadGenocide]

SnapperIIs (the blue bursts) usually make terrible wedges.

U f'ing wot

gtfo

I want none of this in a new member's showcase ! I'll be watching this thread, so behave.

And DG, please do not argue over RA2 with stock builders that have about five times your experience, thank you.

All I was just saying that I was confused. I wasn't trying to argue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-jdP0ymYKY&t=9m53s

[Calmarius]

it does need a longer wedge though

Perhaps a 20cm longer extender?

and 1 black is a little on the low side for all the motors.

I know. But 3 underpowered DDTs still hit bigger than 2 well powered one it seems.

making the chassis wedge wider and more shallow would make it better against hs.

I wonder how is chassis damage calculated. It seems smaller chassis can handle less punishment. I going to experiment with wider skirt like chassis to see how it works.

[Gauche Suede]

I wonder how is chassis damage calculated. It seems smaller chassis can handle less punishment. I going to experiment with wider skirt like chassis to see how it works.

Yeah it is, the bigger the surface-area the more HP the bot has, and thus the heavier the bot is

[Calmarius]

Rebuilt the middleweight one to have a long wide wedge:



It performs much better against spinners.