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Robot Arena => Showcases => Stock Showcases => Topic started by: bwackwat on December 06, 2012, 03:07:57 PM

Title: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: bwackwat on December 06, 2012, 03:07:57 PM
Hello!

I used to play this game a lot, and getting back into it, I would love to show the community a handful of my best stock robots! Critique away!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/44919axe smasher.png)

Steel Armored.

This robot has trouble on its backside, has weight for additional weapons, and often cannot reach opponents with the axes.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/11224capture.png)

Titanium Armored.

This similar axe-striking bot does more damage, but is even more vulnerable from the sides and on its back. Also, its weapon is weak due to those weak burst motors. Could be much stronger, but has a cool capturing front!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18409deadweight storm.png)

Steel Armored.

This bot comes at you with a LOT of dead weight! It hits hard, but needs to hit while moving quickly which is hard to do because the thing moves sideways. It sucks to have three HPZs--balance is impossible. This bot could be better, but the hammerheads are fun.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/61891razor storm.png)

Steel Armored.

This robot is the predecessor to Deadweight Storm, and has SIX HPZs covered is razors. This bot truly shreds through armor and weapons.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/82614double flippy.png)

Titanium Armored.

This little guy flips hard! Really fun, but frankly not the most effective.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80102migrane.png)

Aluminum Armored.

This lightweight has two HPZs covered in razors! Whoah! Although it isn't very fast and that Nifty battery doesn't last long, this LW shreds.

Thanks for checking out my bots!

PLEASE leave comments, suggestions, etc...
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on December 06, 2012, 03:18:27 PM
Axe Smasher's weapon setup looks cool. The bots remind me of bots made about 7 years ago.
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on December 06, 2012, 03:20:36 PM
I can see lots of potential here...

Tip from me: Square extenders are much heavier than round ones. You will save weight by using only the round extenders.
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on December 06, 2012, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: Jonzu95 on December 06, 2012, 03:20:36 PM
I can see lots of potential here...

Tip from me: Square extenders are much heavier than round ones. You will save weight by using only the round extenders.
Don't forget though that 140cm extenders only weigh 5kg
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on December 06, 2012, 03:25:04 PM
first off, round extenders always > square ones, as they all have the same HP. the only case you should use squares is if it is the 140cm one found in the patch in my sig

despite what you may think, snapper-powered hammers CAN be good... but they cant support more than 2 or 3 razors. the hammer cant be too long either or itll have problems retracting. most just use external DDTs put on a baseplate anchor

migrane 3 is basically the best you can make it, nice job on that one. the only thing you can really do for it is put its weaponry on a snapper, but you would probably need to snapperload (vvv in the link below vvv) in order to do it, and get DS aluminum, also below

read: http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm)
you probably know some of this stuff already, but its a good resource

im glad you take building seriously and arent just another newfag trying to replicate IRL bots in stock
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Philippa on December 06, 2012, 03:39:42 PM
Hey there new guy. :)

Cool bots. Have a few tips - Always build to the weight limit.
                                            - See the tab that lets you choose armour? NEVER click on that because if you don't then you get armour stronger than steel at                                                   the same weight of aluminium.
                                            - NEVER use the square extenders unless it's the 140cm one.
                                            - Keep chassis size at a minimum.

Happy building Backwax. ;)
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 06, 2012, 04:15:21 PM
Simplify your extender work. at the moment it's needlessly complicated.
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Sage on December 06, 2012, 06:36:00 PM
Awesome a new builder!

The last bot, the LW, is definitely the best. Nice chassis work!

The rest of them aren't bad. Pretty much what everyone else said- Use the round extenders instead of the square ones (they are 3kg lighter, each. that's a lot of weight!). Also, try to build to the weight limit. Remember, heavyweight goes all the way to 800kg!

On your hammer HS (horizontal spinner), try to use iron spikes or maces instead. 3 maces are way more efficient than 1 sledgehammer, and cost the same.

Good luck! Any questions just ask.
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: bwackwat on December 06, 2012, 07:06:52 PM
I suppose I've got some questions I would like to ask the community then:

What is the most stable installation of RA2? Does it include DSL? Is it version 1.4? Are there any multiplayer enhancements to reduce glitches and increase communication efficiency?

(On a side note, SHOULD I try using DSL? I assume effective bot types persist and can be replicated...)

Could someone point me to a collection of some of the most powerful robots they have seen? There are clearly some types of robots that can be countered, but are there any that seem unbeatable?

Is the Starcore AI Pack 3 the most powerful set of AI bots? I haven't been able to beat a single event with any of my stock bots, and not only does it frighten me, but it makes me want to win!  :cool:

Has anyone seen a successful walking robot?

WHO WANTS TO BATTLE ROYALE ON VNC?  :eek:
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on December 06, 2012, 07:22:11 PM
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What is the most stable installation of RA2? Does it include DSL? Is it version 1.4?
my stock dl is the most stabile, followed by dsl, and finally by naryars dsl ai pack/dsl mod ("nar ai")

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Are there any multiplayer enhancements to reduce glitches and increase communication efficiency?
no. from what ive heard some online host services reduce lag. gameranger is the best but i dont see any reduction in lag

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Could someone point me to a collection of some of the most powerful robots they have seen? There are clearly some types of robots that can be countered, but are there any that seem unbeatable?
flail sns are annoying as heck to beat in stock.

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Is the Starcore AI Pack 3 the most powerful set of AI bots? I haven't been able to beat a single event with any of my stock bots, and not only does it frighten me, but it makes me want to win!
nope, inf ai is the hardest around atm. (dl: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,10649.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,10649.0.html))
once i release asai though that should change...

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Has anyone seen a successful walking robot?
dominatings dsl showcase is full of them. not a whole ton in stock

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WHO WANTS TO BATTLE ROYALE ON VNC?
no idea what that is
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Sage on December 06, 2012, 08:27:54 PM
You can check any of the "big" showcases to see some great bots. (I reccomend starting at the last page and moving backwards).

Here are some links.
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,755.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,755.0.html)
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,1764.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,1764.0.html)
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,693.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,693.0.html)
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on December 06, 2012, 10:34:33 PM
There was one guy that was here that made a successful stock walker, the vid is still on youtube IIRC
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on December 07, 2012, 09:50:10 AM
Quote from: Badnik96 on December 06, 2012, 10:34:33 PM
There was one guy that was here that made a successful stock walker, the vid is still on youtube IIRC

You mean the one that jumped?
Title: Followup!
Post by: bwackwat on December 25, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
I'm back, now, with a whole slew of new robots! Lets hear some critique!

With my last set of bots I was unaware of DSA armor. I fell in love; all of these bots have DSA!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5678axe smasher.png)
Axcessive

Super fun hammer bot. Perhaps a bit slow, and once you've outmaneuvered this bot in any way your chances of winning are high. If you're cornered and can't move: you lose. A considerable upgrade from my previous Axe Smasher.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55535max power.png)
Max Power

Again, a super fun flipper bot. Not very powerful (even for a flipper), but quick and armored (plows).

Who else loves plows? Plows are great and big.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39589old razor.png)
Old Razor

These pneumatic/weapon-covered bots seem to be the most powerful I have seen. Weapon-covered HSes seem to be quite damaging, but in another sense.

If this bot had some nice wedges in front, what bot type would defeat it?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/97198spikeentanglement.png)
Spike Entanglement

I hope you can see the parts: 6 Z-teks, 4 HP Z-teks, a stacked 12 volt, and lots of spikes. The spikes take a while to start spinning rapidly, but once they are whirling this bot will deal a lot of damage, for a long time. Hard to flip (cool).

Uh... is this bot actually effective? I'm just not sure...

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/2512yellow horned beetle.png)
Yellow Horned Beetle

A new lightweight bot of mine. Pretty strong but could likely be reworked in many ways.

Who else loves externalizing motors and weapons?!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55041venom snap.png)
Venom Snap

An interesting middleweight which deals an OK amount of damage. I wish and expected this weapon setup to be more effective, but the bot is cool anyway.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/52592true miner.png)
True Miner

This is a pretty strong spinner guy. Nice weight and nice number of weapons. Rather simple design and rather effective. I think I stacked a 12 volt in there...

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/91326venom driller.png)
Venom Driller

Super fun, balanced, and effective middleweight. Zooms around and has a good number of weapons.

Do you think those weaker motors were good ideas? Is motor stacking worth my time anyways? I found that True Miner's weapon setup is simply more effective.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62374arrowhead.png)
Arrowhead

This is likely my most powerful robot. Super fast and high-damaging. Really fun to smash robots with this guy. Stacked a 12 volt.

Question: is this (the popup) the most powerful robot design in general? Once I outmaneuver and get under almost any robot it feels like this robot (type) cannot be beat.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70510synwisp.png)
Synwisp

Likely my most powerful middleweight. Again, really fun, fast, and damaging.

I felt like I may have been wasting lots of weight with the ultra-long chassis, but I decided to ignore my concern after demolishing some stock robots.

And that's that!

I had some fun using the Antimatter Neutron Star Piece, but that idea got boring fast.

And, after getting smashed by the Starcore AI Pack V3, I decided just before this post to test out the V1 pack; wish me luck!

Thanks for reading and being patient with all these damn bots. It's been an intense time building. Happy building

~Bwackwat
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on December 25, 2012, 09:48:27 PM
old razor doesnt really need that third piston the black battery or the buzzard wheels. you could change the wheels to shinies and reduce the amount of pistons for more weaponry. fast pokers like that tend to rely on drive speed more than sheer piston speed anyway

spike entanglement looks a bit like a bot i built some time back:
but of course my bot i built off a single snapperII with the aid of snapper loading: http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm. (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm.) from my experiance chained hs tend not to have very quick acceleration but weapon speeds can be ridiculous.

and synwisps side armor is pretty useless to be honest. i would probably trade them for a snapper2 with a ~60/80 cm extender + a small wedge to help get under opponents. razor tips also are the best for bots like that (aka popups)

Quote from: bwackwat on December 25, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
Is motor stacking worth my time anyways?
if you are talking about putting your weapons motors/drive on snappers, yes if you use as few bursts as possible. you see, putting motors on snappers increases their speed, and they wont be in your chassis using up chassis KG.
if you mean chaining motors together with a 20cm extender, then mostly not except on a few VS that have the goal of punting their opponent around and being glass cannons (nightmare-esque bots)
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 26, 2012, 02:49:26 AM
Yes, popups are the best bot type in general, unless you are countered by a specialized anti popup.
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on December 26, 2012, 04:50:58 AM
Venom Drill! <3
Title: Re: Bwackwat's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on December 26, 2012, 08:55:50 AM
Yeah, Venom drill is awesome. Not the most effective, but awesome nonetheless.
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