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Title: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 20, 2009, 10:36:51 PM
Feb 27, 2009 - I made a new bot last night! =D My first attempt at a good HS.

Win Bot 3000: My first attempt at a good HS. It uses four HP Z-Teks in the center using rotator bars and 2 Iron Spikes at the end of each bar. 2 Blades go Clockwise and 2 others go Counter Clockwise so my bot doesn't spin out and more controllable. I like it except for the sluggishness of the bot. It's veeeeery slow. Other than that It's really good. It can right itself back over by popping out those Snappers if flipped and does good damage =D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/WinBot3000.jpg)

Feb 20, 2009 - Well uh... It's been a while since playing this game. Thought I'd try it again so here are some of my designs from today. Punch Bag Bob is a Heavyweight Dual Vertical Spinner with a wall of weapons under the blades. Twilight Hour is a Lightweight bot with two horizontal spinners which cover the whole bot.

Punch Bag Bob: I'm pretty content with this bot but if you have any suggestions I'd be more than happy to try it out. It beat my previous best bot (Sit and spinner) in about 30 seconds 5 times in a row :gunz:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/PunchBagBob.jpg)

Twilight Hour: Decent Lightweight but I'm having trouble getting a black battery, but if not then I'd rather have two High powered Z-Teks (It has two Reversable Angle Motors now T_T).

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/TwilightHour.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on February 20, 2009, 10:47:45 PM
reversible angles are fine for a LW. For the HW, looks ok. cool use some wedges.

don't use pink batteries unless on a AW or BW. they suck.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Clickbeetle on February 20, 2009, 11:54:07 PM
Quote from: Sage;29405

don't use pink batteries unless on a AW or BW. they suck.


*Exception: LW rammers.  I used 2 pinks on Brown Wreckluse 2 and it works fine.  Anything with more than 2 motors though, needs at least a Nifty.

Punch Bag Bob looks great.  But it would be even greater with wedges, like Sage said.  Maybe get rid of the small battery packs and add a Snapper.  Strangely, I haven't seen many VS/rammer hybrids.  Good work with that design.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on February 21, 2009, 01:11:50 AM
I like Punch Bag Bob, but you'd be better with 2 blacks (or 1 black and 1 nifty).

Also you can make your extender setup lighter (avoid anglers, and play with round extenders).
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on February 21, 2009, 06:16:28 AM
PBB is real good.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 21, 2009, 09:11:22 AM
Nothing Else Fits in PBB so i had to settle for the 2 pinks. I've seen people stacking black batteries but all i know how to stack are iron spikes, and axe heads. I'll try it out later then :D
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on February 21, 2009, 10:05:27 AM
Try to remove so many angle connectors and use the side connections of extenders, then remove the pink and you might have the weight to double up the spikes.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 21, 2009, 10:34:50 AM
After trying to make the bot lighter, The spikes wont connect to the rotator bar. I'm assuming its just a glitch so is there any way to fix it?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: DuckRA2 on February 21, 2009, 10:50:33 AM
punch bag bob reminds me of a MW I made. You have extra weight, so
does your bot always have popups getting under it??? if so get a wedge.
maybe instead of using tribars, make a disk on a lower extender. if you change that, save your old one in case it sucks



That might be the rule of seven, or there is a wheel moving during the bot lab, if there is somthing moving just switch the tab your, click appearence and then go back


For twilight hour, I don't know how great at stacking you are, but you could put a nifty in there and stack the control board and that extender to the weapon motor inside the nifty, and then in the rest of the chasis put 2 or 1 axel mounts for the 2 reversible angle motors
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on February 21, 2009, 12:07:34 PM
Try rotating the spikes
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 21, 2009, 12:56:09 PM
Quote from: Somebody;29449
Try rotating the spikes


No i already know that trick, its just that like it wont even show what it would look like to see if i want to connect it on that part.

EDIT: It's letting me connect the spikes to anywhere else on the bot but the rotator bars. I tried to connect an extender to the bar also and that wont let me attach to it either.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: man manu on February 21, 2009, 01:59:49 PM
Maybe the 7 part rule thingy. Someone more RA2 experienced should explain it to you.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 21, 2009, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: man manu;29464
Maybe the 7 part rule thingy. Someone more RA2 experienced should explain it to you.


Yeah I already have it on. I had to delete the whole arm i already had setup and build a complete new one. Its about 20 kg lighter with that but i still cant fit the black batteries inside the chassis so I'm going to just make the 2 wedges people keep suggesting. And I'm also trying to learn how to stack batteries and Z-Teks.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on February 21, 2009, 04:32:39 PM
Quote from: 40757;29438
After trying to make the bot lighter, The spikes wont connect to the rotator bar. I'm assuming its just a glitch so is there any way to fix it?


Hmm.

1) Anchor
2) Extender
3) HPZ
4) Tribar
5) Extender (Iron added here)
6) Extender
7) Iron

Try rotating the one you first attached, that works.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on February 21, 2009, 06:15:18 PM
And post some pics so we can see what you have. You could put the spikes so that the side attachment is facing the way that the tribar is spinning, and attach the spike to that.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 23, 2009, 10:45:15 PM
ok, I added wedges, removed the 2 pink batteries, and used less angle connectors. It's at about 748 kgs. What I was thinking of doing was Stacking two Black Batteries but I have no idea how to so I would greatly appreciate it if somone gave me a link on how to stack them or just tell me.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on February 24, 2009, 06:43:40 AM
http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm

Its in here with a bunch of other tutorials.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: DuckRA2 on February 24, 2009, 09:14:10 AM
you just have too put another black batt over the other don't rotate. you do this by zooming in on the screen, and slightly moving your mouse to find a glitchy spot it can fit in. there is another way, you can cross them like an X, but that may take to much room.

You can also stack things inside nifties and black volts, but i think you should learn to stack black bats first
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on February 24, 2009, 09:18:58 AM
Actually, rotating helps.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 24, 2009, 01:53:38 PM
does this work the same for Z-Teks? I've wanted to make a good Horizontal Spinner for a while :D
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: DuckRA2 on February 24, 2009, 05:13:57 PM
oh, HS you probably should stack on a snapper
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on February 25, 2009, 07:18:37 AM
Look in Sage's signature for a tutorial.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on February 25, 2009, 03:26:30 PM
HERE I AM FOR YOU CONVIENCE.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 26, 2009, 11:01:57 PM
I have made my first HS called "Crap Bot 3000" which i will be posting pictures of tomorrow. It uses 4 HP Z-Teks :D
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on February 26, 2009, 11:32:30 PM
ugh, i hate that.

Noobs, tip-

don't be hard on yourself or your bots. calling your showcase 'hall of lame' or naming your bots 'crap bot 3000' is just horrible. makes you look stupid. hold your head high, just don't get arrogant.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Urjak on February 26, 2009, 11:42:42 PM
It also could just be a name, and not mean anything.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on February 26, 2009, 11:47:35 PM
Yep, that's what it is. Thanks Urjak. Now it makes complete sense.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on February 27, 2009, 06:58:29 AM
Remember, I will get shredded made it to the semifinals in BBEANS 1.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 27, 2009, 01:44:56 PM
lol its actually a pretty good bot tbh (well for me anyways). I'm editing the pictures of it now.

EDIT: Look at the OP for the bot.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on February 27, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
Nice desing, Flip the weapons 90 degrees and try to get HPZteks.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 27, 2009, 03:58:16 PM
Quote from: System32;29892
Nice desing, Flip the weapons 90 degrees and try to get HPZteks.


Well the weapon motors are already HP Z-Teks unless your talking about the motor for the wheels
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on February 27, 2009, 04:06:49 PM
Yeah, I mean wheels.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 27, 2009, 04:33:47 PM
Quote from: System32;29899
Yeah, I mean wheels.


My Only Problem with that is that the wheels will be exposed :( I'll give it a try though
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on February 27, 2009, 05:47:47 PM
If the spikes are good enough, the wheels will have no problem with getting hit. Also, rotate the extenders to get the two spikes on each extender vertical, so that they will hit at the same time. Also, you can shrink the chassis a bit, and use the weight for something else.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 27, 2009, 05:59:47 PM
Quote from: Somebody;29905
If the spikes are good enough, the wheels will have no problem with getting hit. Also, rotate the extenders to get the two spikes on each extender vertical, so that they will hit at the same time. Also, you can shrink the chassis a bit, and use the weight for something else.


Yeah I'm testing the bot with the exposed wheels and it works fine. The other bots haven't even touched it once :D
Getting rid of the angle motors gave me space for more batteries so i got 2 nifties and one 12 Volt.

I'll try the vertical spikes too
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Urjak on February 28, 2009, 10:41:05 AM
Quote from: Sage;29833
Yep, that's what it is. Thanks Urjak. Now it makes complete sense.


Your welcome Sage, I'm always here to help.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 11, 2009, 10:07:20 PM
Havn't showcased a bot here in a while so let me show everybody the upgraded version of Win Bot 3000. Win Bot 4000 =D. It's faster, and has more battery power. I've also learned how to battery stack. It's not done here but i'll do it on a future bot to show :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/WB4.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Meganerdbomb on March 11, 2009, 10:27:54 PM
Not bad.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on March 12, 2009, 06:04:11 AM
Respectable. You should try using the blue snappers.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 12, 2009, 06:50:35 AM
Stack the blacks, put the drive on the snappers and reduce chassis space by building another square chassis..
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 12, 2009, 04:36:02 PM
This better? It's pretty much a new bot so It's not named Win Bot 5000.

Batts are stacked

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Cyclone.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 12, 2009, 05:24:28 PM
better. what's stopping you from squeezing in the chassis so its perfect?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 12, 2009, 05:36:24 PM
Well, I was planning on adding a snowplow in the front but I didn't have enough space. Think that making it even smaller will give me enough leftover weight?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on March 13, 2009, 02:30:02 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 13, 2009, 03:28:58 PM
Also with eFFeing the weapon hp zteks you can use get rid of two snappers.

Ultimate goal is using 2 SnapperII's for attaching drive and your 4 spinners.

(YES SAGE I KNOW YOU HAD ONE SNAPPER)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 13, 2009, 05:55:22 PM
After trying to effe glitch, It won't let me connect anything on the connectors which are attached to a tribar.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/WTF.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 13, 2009, 06:16:14 PM
That would be the rule of seven. you have to attach the motor directly to the extender coming off the servo/snapper or it wont let you attach weapons.
yes, sometimes very hard to do. my first good HS was 4 servos.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 13, 2009, 06:43:11 PM
Well, then how would i remove the 2 snappers which Naryar recommended by effe glitching?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 13, 2009, 07:12:42 PM
i will let naryar explain that, if hes so confident :P
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 15, 2009, 09:33:17 PM
I'm planning on building a 36 Iron Spiked HS for bbeans. Any Tips?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on March 15, 2009, 09:34:51 PM
It's fairly challenging. I suggest talking to Sage about this, he's pretty good at them.
Also get the blue snappers, they're a legal component. Link (https://gametechmods.com/?do=Ra2_Components) (It's called the Combo AI & CZ)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 15, 2009, 09:41:49 PM
Well first, I need to get the CD version from Ebay (already bought it) to use blue snappers. but I need atleast an idea of what I'm gonna do. Anyways, I'm assuming the chassis for batteries, ect, and 2 blue snappers with 2 HP Z-Teks for weapons and one for drive?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 15, 2009, 10:05:32 PM
The point of making a 36 HS is that you figure it our yourself to prove your skills. The rules are also fairly strict:

1. 36 weapons that weight 10 kgs each, ex. Iron Spikes and Maces. (You can, if you have the weight, add a frontal weapon for protection)

2. These 36 weapons will be on 4 tribars that are on 4 HP-Zteks.

3. The drive will be 2 HP-Zteks, usually with shiny hub wheels on them.

4. The power will be 2 Black Batteries.

5. This is optional, but you will get much more respect if you can make it invertible as well.


That said, I have built a lot of them and will you give you a few tips:

1. Pretty much the only way is to use two blue Snapper II's. There are two workable designs that use 2 servos and a few with one snapper II... but i already made those :P

2. You should learn snapper loading before you attempt this. (Look in my signature for a tutorial.)

3. There are many, many ways to do a setup for this type of bot (which is why they are fun to build) but it's becoming hard to come up with new ones as of late. I would suggest looking at other peoples versions and copying the design. After you make your first it's easier to design a new setup.

4. Come up with the setup in your head or on paper before even attempting it in game. This will usually help. The weight of the stuff is 762-766 kgs (depending on if you use 2 20cms or 4 20cms for your setup) so your chassis will have to be fairly small. The breakdown for the components is here:

360= Weapons

120= Weapon Motors

60= Drive Motors

60= Batteries

56= Tribars

48= Extenders for weapons

26= Snapper II's

24= Wheels (Shiny Hubs)

4-8= Extenders for setup

4= Control Board



Hope that helps!

Sage
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 16, 2009, 01:30:31 AM
Grannies.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 16, 2009, 10:06:43 AM
Quote from: Naryar;31043
Grannies.

What about grannies?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 16, 2009, 12:02:43 PM
Invertible.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 16, 2009, 12:39:31 PM
Quote from: Naryar;31069
Invertible.

*cough* AC is invertible with shinies *cough*

*cough* so is ultimatum *cough*
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 16, 2009, 12:49:29 PM
I still say grannies...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on March 16, 2009, 01:12:01 PM
28 is also invertible with shinies.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on March 16, 2009, 01:19:13 PM
So are Enchilada, ZX-2 & (unshowcased) Shockwave.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 16, 2009, 01:27:03 PM
Grannies!
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on March 16, 2009, 01:28:33 PM
Unnecessary!
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 16, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
... Just kidding.

Well when building Altar of Flame 3 i though grannies were necessary to invertibility, but as Corona is invertible with shinies, there's no reason a pure HS couldn't.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 16, 2009, 01:54:18 PM
Anyone else think Naryar lost his marbles for a second there?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 16, 2009, 02:09:38 PM
I wasn't confused Sage. I just felt like being an asshole for 2 posts.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 16, 2009, 02:29:50 PM
Quote from: Naryar;31084
I wasn't confused Sage. I just felt like being an asshole for 2 posts.


Ahahaah OK.

Well you pulled it off.

BTW... it kinda looked like you were doing the same thing with "Grannies."
as i did with "Threads like this."

was that on purpose?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 16, 2009, 02:39:52 PM
nope.

but it'll be on purpose next time.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 16, 2009, 06:15:02 PM
lolwut. random posts >_>

The Hs has 36 weps but its lacking in speed. I have a basic idea of what the new bot will have once i get the blue snappers though. I might draw a picture in paint or somthing to see if u ppl think its good.

EDIT: How on earth will I make a 13 Kg Chassis (Ignore those 2 Y connectors connecting the 2 Z-Teks for the weapons. I drew this picture b4 thinking about effe glitching with round connectors. Lol I forgot to change the total to 787 also)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/36HSbbeans5bot.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on March 16, 2009, 10:35:16 PM
Naryar lost his marbles long ago.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 16, 2009, 11:40:37 PM
nope. 2 questions- where did you get 29 extenders? and- did you even factor in the Y connectors i see coming off the snapper?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 17, 2009, 01:29:04 PM
Quote from: Sage;31130
nope. 2 questions- where did you get 29 extenders? and- did you even factor in the Y connectors i see coming off the snapper?


In the parentasis (however you spell that) I said that i forgot to change the Y extenders to round extenders, so instead of 27, there are 29. the others you don't see are part of the weapon. The total is wrong too. It's actually 787. I need help with ideas making the chassis smaller to be under 800.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on March 17, 2009, 02:26:42 PM
I shall put it quickly and simply. You arent going to get a chassis under 13kgs that can fit even one black battery.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 17, 2009, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: Somebody;31186
I shall put it quickly and simply. You arent going to get a chassis under 13kgs that can fit even one black battery.


Yeah i know. Well that's why I posted it here, I wanted some advice on losing some weight on the bot for the chassis.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 17, 2009, 04:07:56 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43685screenshot_20.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on March 17, 2009, 04:37:12 PM
:eek: I stand corrected.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Scrap Daddy on March 17, 2009, 06:41:15 PM
Easy thing to do is ditch the baseplate anchor at the back and just attach the drive to the snappers. It might be just enough weight.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 17, 2009, 10:01:03 PM
Quote from: Scrap Daddy;31221
Easy thing to do is ditch the baseplate anchor at the back and just attach the drive to the snappers. It might be just enough weight.


Well then how would I connect both Z-Teks. That would break one of the seven rules.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 17, 2009, 10:25:38 PM
Quote from: 40757;31230
Well then how would I connect both Z-Teks. That would break one of the seven rules.


like i said, look at other peoples designs.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Condor33 on March 18, 2009, 06:45:28 AM
Quote from: Somebody;31212
:eek: I stand corrected.


No you don't. Look at the weight, that weighs 40.1 KGs
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 20, 2009, 11:49:46 PM
Vela, my newly built Heavyweight is named after my favorite song "Vela, Together We Await the Storm" I read that sage and inf performed an experiment where maces are better than iron spikes for a HS. looks like it's valid. Also a battleshot of me testing the ironspike version vs the mace. LOTS of effe glitching done for the mace HS X_X
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Vela.jpg)
This battleshot was the 2nd fight performed to see which was better.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Velatest.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 21, 2009, 02:12:52 AM
failed at the snowplow setup. ok setup for weapon motors.

the long reach of the snowplow means less damage for the maces.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on March 21, 2009, 06:36:39 AM
It would weigh much less on the snowplows if you used a baseplate connector and a T connector.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 21, 2009, 07:04:53 AM
Use SnapperII's.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on March 21, 2009, 12:25:38 PM
faillllllllllllllllllllll. so ugly
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 21, 2009, 01:35:28 PM
I know already about the plow. It was already a priority for the bot but it's fixxed now.

Quote from: infiniteinertia;31459
faillllllllllllllllllllll. so ugly


unnecessary
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 21, 2009, 01:43:05 PM
40757: Get used to it.

Inf: Not everyone is as great as you :P
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 21, 2009, 02:06:31 PM
The reason I post here is to get critiqued, not insulted
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 21, 2009, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: 40757;31465
The reason I post here is to get critiqued, not insulted

true, but we also aren't going to walk you through everything. you have to do some things yourself too. when someone says it's ugly, for example, try figuring out why instead of asking. look at it through your own eyes. does it look good to you. compare with some of the veterans bots.

also, inf only likes a very select few new people. you just didnt catch his eye yet.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 21, 2009, 02:22:42 PM
Not an insult, it's just that Inf is blunt.

You can bet he'd be using other terms if he was really insulting you...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on March 21, 2009, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: Naryar;31468
Not an insult, it's just that Inf is blunt.

You can bet he'd be using other terms if he was really insulting you...


one of the more smart things you have ever said.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: man manu on March 21, 2009, 02:48:27 PM
Why do you not use capitals at the start of sentances? Huh? Huh? Huh? Answer me that!
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 21, 2009, 02:51:57 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;31469
one of the more smart things you have ever said.

I suppose this is sarcasm.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 21, 2009, 02:59:42 PM
Quote from: Naryar;31468
Not an insult, it's just that Inf is aggressive.


Fixed.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on March 21, 2009, 03:05:15 PM
Quote from: Naryar;31468
Not an insult, it's just that Inf is both agressive and blunt.


Fixed.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 21, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: man manu;31470
Why do you not use capitals at the start of sentances? Huh? Huh? Huh? Answer me that!


Why do you care? Huh? Huh? Huh? Answer me that!
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: man manu on March 21, 2009, 03:33:38 PM
I dont really, I just haven't posted for a while.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on March 21, 2009, 04:17:26 PM
Quote from: man manu;31476
I dont really, I just haven't posted for a while.


AND THANK GOD.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 21, 2009, 04:27:25 PM
alright guys stop flaming
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on March 21, 2009, 04:28:41 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;31478
AND THANK GOD.


Inf I am beginning to love you.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: R1885 on March 21, 2009, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: System32;31485
Inf I am beginning to love you.


The world is about to end, I can feel it.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on March 21, 2009, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: System32;31485
Inf I am beginning to love you.


I betcha Inf's head will explode when he reads this.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 21, 2009, 05:15:26 PM
Quote from: System32;31485
Inf I am beginning to love you.

What the...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on March 21, 2009, 05:18:55 PM
=|__|
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on March 21, 2009, 05:45:43 PM
It's a bloody Qi referance, for crying out loud.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: man manu on March 22, 2009, 07:04:06 AM
Who wants pie?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 22, 2009, 02:43:44 PM
I see my showcase became a random chat thread
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 22, 2009, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: 40757;31579
I see my showcase became a random chat thread

the  only way to stop it is to post another bot.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 25, 2009, 08:54:45 PM
Thanks to Scrap Daddy, he gave me v3 starcore :P So far I havent lost to any of the bots including Neglected Warterbug, Rabid Pit Bull, SHW Locutus (while using a heavyweight), Little Darling, 321 Blastoff, and many many more :D. So far I only have 2 heavyweights in this version of RA2 (and my only bots at all) so thats all I can see for now. I'll post some battleshots later. I'm using the 4 textures that you use sage (hope you dont mind because I like them alot :D)

EDIT: Heres Vela vs Locutus

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/VelavsLocutus.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Dexterhunter on March 25, 2009, 09:18:12 PM
whats with the rainbow?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 25, 2009, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: Dexterhunter;31912
whats with the rainbow?


Rainbows are cool :gunz:
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Jack Daniels on March 25, 2009, 09:30:07 PM
How did you win that match?... the screen shot makes it look like your bot is totally fubar.

Congrats with your success. Starcore v3 is an excellent test for sure.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 25, 2009, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels;31914
How did you win that match?... the screen shot makes it look like your bot is totally fubar.

Congrats with your success. Starcore v3 is an excellent test for sure.


I dont really know :ermm:

Well what happened was that I was a 3 minute fight. We pretty much lost all of our weapons at roughly the same time, I lost my wheels but since he still had 3 of his, it kept pushing me around keeping me from immobilizing. I won by points (somehow :?)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: ianh05 on March 25, 2009, 09:51:42 PM
test it against alien queen or another VS? and more battle shots against NWB and or rabid pit bull.

is it invertible? if not even rammers can give you problems.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 25, 2009, 10:02:38 PM
I'll get some screenshots in a second.

It's invertable to a certain extent. It uses the grey tires (lol im sorry I forgot the name to it) but it somtimes touches the ground if the Z-Teks are still Attached to the bot, but even then It's hard to steer. I might have to shear off a few kgs to make it better upsideown (wedges are more of a priority at the moment though). It does best against VS but I suspect that its worst against popups because it has no wedges and bots always get under (321 blastoff is the only popup it's fought so far but it faired pretty well).
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: ianh05 on March 25, 2009, 10:13:17 PM
HS's don't need wedges but they need to be invertible take a look at inf's HS's, they and most other hs's don't have any they focus on being invertible, some defense (most the time its a plow) and lots of offense.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 25, 2009, 10:20:08 PM
So I'm supposed to just let the popups under me? O_o I'll add some belly protection I guess.

EDIT: Some more Battleshots
Rabid Pit Bull
Neglected Waterbug
Little Darling
321 Blastoff


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/VelavsRabidPitBull.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/VelavsNeglectedWaterbug.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/VelavsLittleDarling.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/VelavsBlastoff.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on March 25, 2009, 11:50:25 PM
-cries-

Have you tried Starcore v4a? :D
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on March 26, 2009, 08:13:32 AM
Hey, ain't that Sage's skin, he PM it to you? Just wondering.
And cool bot.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: man manu on March 26, 2009, 11:10:22 AM
It looks good but your bot does get mauled against rabit pit bull though...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on March 26, 2009, 11:15:10 AM
Don't pay attention to MM, 40757. You're getting pretty good!
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: ianh05 on March 26, 2009, 11:37:32 AM
it is a good robot, HS's are probably the strongest all round robots in the game imo that's why they are so popular. what makes a good builder great is being innovative and original, i love checking out clicks showcase to get some new idea's i think you should take a look at his showcase sometime.. it's a shame we all had to start over again cause click had a lot more unique designs.

did you control your robot yourself in those battles? a little advice from me is learn how to ai your bots if you haven't already and test your robots that way.

bottom line: AI vs AI matches for your robots and make them a bit different from every other bot we have seen.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 26, 2009, 01:26:00 PM
Lol I have no idea how to ai a bot. I got the disc version of the game about 3 days ago so I think I'm doing a pretty good job on it so far :D. And yes that's sage's skin, I just copied it on his showcase, about page 20. Hopefully he doesnt mind that I use it because it's awsome :D
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 26, 2009, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: Reier;31937
Hey, ain't that Sage's skin, he PM it to you? Just wondering.
And cool bot.

yea its mine. i posted pictures of them. he musta copied it.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 28, 2009, 02:19:21 AM
New bot called Contravene. Has a protected front that makes the opponents slide up and then get poked at while having no leverage. It's the 1st version of this bot and I thought it's pretty cool so I'd just showcase it here. Some more improvments can be done but I'm too tired to do that right now. It needs to have the plow moved farther back so the weapons can hurt the opponent's chassis better. I still have another 100 kgs left over but with moving some components around, and making the piston longer for a farther reach, I might add some snow plows too, and then that may make it a bit closer to the weight limit. Contravene has great wedges so it's not uncommon to get under bots like Neglected Water Bug :D

I will redo Contravene tomorrow and showcase it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Contravene.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/ContravenevsNWB.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: ianh05 on March 28, 2009, 02:38:39 AM
maybe angle the weapons down a bit? can't remember the name of the robot.. but one of the ai packs (i think psyc's) has an awesome hw poker that has its pointing down on an angle.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on March 28, 2009, 02:46:59 AM
Pys built something like this a while back I think (it was on the old forums, mabye it was Inf).

It's a pretty good design, but you could free up even more weight by re-making the chassis. Remember: think of each face of the polygon as a seperate armour sheet. The more there are, the more it will weigh, so try to build your chassis with as few faces as possible, but still compact enough to just fit in everything you need.

I would add another air tank (they stack, by the way) and definately some more weapons, if not another piston as well.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on March 28, 2009, 02:48:29 AM
Insectoid :D

Definitely a big air tank, and another piston.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: ianh05 on March 28, 2009, 04:29:17 AM
"Insectoid" yeah thats the one.

you could also put 1 more piston on each side and angle them in...i think. maybe some side protection also?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on March 28, 2009, 07:19:56 AM
Insectoid is in SCv3 too.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on March 28, 2009, 07:38:48 AM
First in to say that those pick axes won't help at ALL.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: ianh05 on March 28, 2009, 07:41:31 AM
first in to say they help protect the extenders.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 28, 2009, 12:48:32 PM
Quote from: System32;32081
First in to say that those pick axes won't help at ALL.


I know but I was just trying to kill some weight. It wont be there this time unless I still have more weight after doing everything else.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on March 28, 2009, 01:59:44 PM
There's a difference between killing weight and making useless attachments, most don't know the diff.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 08, 2009, 07:06:09 PM
LW HS called Rust-E, 9 maces. It's a HS/SnS hybrid. It took forever to stack that CB into the nifty (until I widened the space for the battery T_T). It's 2 main weaknesses are that It is very weak while inverted (the chassis flails wildly), and that the armour is plastic (rarely ever gets ko'ed right side up though). If it can stay On it's wheels, then it will do very good :approve:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Rust-E.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on April 08, 2009, 07:45:21 PM
nice
I have had no success stacking the cb into a battery.those angled parts of the chassis might be able to be flat to preserve a small amount of weight.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: ianh05 on April 08, 2009, 08:22:41 PM
generic but still nice and effective, good job on stacking the CB in the nifty.. i know it's a pain >.<

try something original that people might not have seen before :)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on April 08, 2009, 10:46:55 PM
Quote from: ianh05;33508
generic...blahblahblah...try something original that people might not have seen before :)


Are you serious? Pretty sure I'm the ONLY one ever to build something like this (actually exactly this) other than Pysc who just tried to better me.

but anyway to my point, I'm just laughing because that is a BLATANT CLONE of my robozone entry which JUST STARTED and one of my SIGNATURE robots. you have some real balls to clone man, you dont do it well either.





STOP.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 09, 2009, 01:28:03 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;33512
Are you serious? Pretty sure I'm the ONLY one ever to build something like this (actually exactly this) other than Pysc who just tried to better me.

but anyway to my point, I'm just laughing because that is a BLATANT CLONE of my robozone entry which JUST STARTED and one of my SIGNATURE robots. you have some real balls to clone man, you dont do it well either.





STOP.


What are you talking about? The back is to fit the battery, and of course the weapon in the middle, and wheels on the side. I'm not a fan of cloning.

Quote from: infiniteinertia;33512
you have some real balls to clone man, you dont do it well either.


Ever thought it looked bad as a clone because it's not even meant to be one?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on April 09, 2009, 01:58:23 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/85500Spin cycle versions.jpg)

your full of sh** dude
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: MikeNCR on April 09, 2009, 02:02:48 PM
It's not like there's a whole lot of chassis design freedom when you shove a HP-Ztek, drive system and 9 weapon heads onto a LW.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 09, 2009, 02:11:48 PM
I see where your coming from Inf, but whatever, knowing you, you wouldn't believe me anyways.

Quote from: MikeNCR;33558
It's not like there's a whole lot of chassis design freedom when you shove a HP-Ztek, drive system and 9 weapon heads onto a LW.


Amen.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on April 09, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: MikeNCR;33558
It's not like there's a whole lot of chassis design freedom when you shove a HP-Ztek, drive system and 9 weapon heads onto a LW.


Really? count on one hand how many times you've seen it done.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: MikeNCR on April 09, 2009, 03:02:18 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;33568
Really? count on one hand how many times you've seen it done.

I've seen 9 heads on a Ztek quite a few times, so that's not original. I've seen Ztek+RAD on a LW before, so that's not original. I've seen chassis designed to fit the components quite tightly before, so that's not original. I've seen T shaped spinners before, so that's not original.

Short of managing to stack your Ztek and your control board into your battery, there's no lighter chassis style to use.

Shockingly enough, taking a fairly standard chassis shape and putting a fairly common tribar setup onto it does not make you the sole owner of the concept of combining the two.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on April 09, 2009, 03:09:37 PM
9 heads on a HP Ztek on a LW? you would be mistaken.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: MikeNCR on April 09, 2009, 03:11:31 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;33571
9 heads on a HP Ztek on a LW? you would be mistaken.


You're very good at ignoring the point.

You combined two VERY common setups and are having a fit because someone else did the same.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on April 09, 2009, 03:16:23 PM
Its not a common setup! Especially the fact that he announced it as a HS/SnS Hybrid.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: MikeNCR on April 09, 2009, 03:20:28 PM
To be completely honest, it looks like you just optimized Shreddar and used the extra weight to add weapons.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40973Shreddar.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31386Shreddarinside.jpg)

...and if you honestly think you're the first person to combine a horizontally spinning weapon with a spinning chassis, I think you're beyond help.

Get over yourself and quit whining about someone building a robot that looks like yours.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on April 09, 2009, 03:39:02 PM
shreddar was built after spin cycle and functions no where close to it. Its hard to believe a newbie around here who cant build worth jack and then shows up with a bot very well built and very similar to a bot I just entered in a tournament.


others would agree.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on April 09, 2009, 03:44:21 PM
Hey 40757.... even if you disagree with Inf, just admit you were cloning. Even if you didn't clone, it will work out better for you if you say you did.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: MikeNCR on April 09, 2009, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;33577
shreddar was built after spin cycle and functions no where close to it. Its hard to believe a newbie around here who cant build worth jack and then shows up with a bot very well built and very similar to a bot I just entered in a tournament.


others would agree.

by functions nowhere close to it, you mean it has the same drive system, same battery, same chassis shape and same number of weapon heads in a slightly different layout. Also, I don't see Spin Cycle showcased prior to 5/3/08.

As I said before, though, putting two common systems together does not make you the king of originality.

You'd have a better argument if 40757 had made any sort of claim about his bot being original/the first of its kind. As it is, you're whining about someone going "hey, that weapon looks effective. I'll try making one."
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 09, 2009, 04:12:27 PM
Quote from: Sage;33578
Hey 40757.... even if you disagree with Inf, just admit you were cloning. Even if you didn't clone, it will work out better for you if you say you did.


No I'm tired of this kid walking all over me.

@ Inf: Get over yourself. If you don't like my bot then just leave.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on April 09, 2009, 04:28:23 PM
Perfect answer. Good job.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on April 09, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
This'll end with blood on the walls.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: somestrangeguy on April 09, 2009, 06:08:23 PM
When I built Shreddar, I had just learned eFFe qlitch and basic stacking skill. And I dont remember seeing a bot named Spincycle before building it, but then again building origional HS is pretty hard in stcok, because they will mostly end up looking the same in the end.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: ianh05 on April 09, 2009, 06:11:49 PM
I don't see many bar HS's these days.. the bars (extenders) weigh less the tribars which means more weapons.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Scrap Daddy on April 09, 2009, 06:35:34 PM
Well, Spin Cycle is Aerial HK and Inf posted it like August 07. I fought it online even earlier so I don't know...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on April 09, 2009, 09:28:21 PM
When Inf was complaining about my cloned bot in Robo Zone, I just thought this

"Inf's bot is a better version of Shreddar. My bot is a better version of ECO Jr."

When you have 10 minutes to build a bot, a clone is the best you are going to get.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: ianh05 on April 09, 2009, 09:37:22 PM
spin cycle has been around for ages (before BBEANS 3) i think.. Inf wouldn't clone a bot from anyone less superior..
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on April 09, 2009, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: Somebody;33615
When Inf was complaining about my cloned bot in Robo Zone, I just thought this

"Inf's bot is a better version of Shreddar. My bot is a better version of ECO Jr."

When you have 10 minutes to build a bot, a clone is the best you are going to get.


ever seen tiny trinity?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 09, 2009, 10:04:45 PM
I'm ussually not good with the pop-ups but I think I did a good job on this one. Hubs and Green snappers used to get a better wedge.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Archaic.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on April 09, 2009, 10:09:08 PM
you like my skins dont you...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Urjak on April 09, 2009, 10:10:31 PM
They do look really cool.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: ianh05 on April 09, 2009, 10:18:46 PM
there is an easy way to get a custom paint job.. just export the template the copy and paste stuff.. that's basically it :P I'm sure you can figure it out.

that's how i did the paint job on aggression (my BBEANS 3 entry).
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 09, 2009, 10:23:11 PM
Haha sage. Yeah I like them. They look pretty cool. Now that you bring it up, I was thinking about making my own texture earlier today.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on April 09, 2009, 11:29:03 PM
Quote from: Somebody;33615
When Inf was complaining about my cloned bot in Robo Zone, I just thought this

"Inf's bot is a better version of Shreddar. My bot is a better version of ECO Jr."

When you have 10 minutes to build a bot, a clone is the best you are going to get.


No....

....but I'll let you go since you admit you cloned.

Quote from: Scrap Daddy;33607
Well, Spin Cycle is Aerial HK and Inf posted it like August 07. I fought it online even earlier so I don't know...


Amen.

Quote from: ianh05;33616
spin cycle has been around for ages (before BBEANS 3) i think.. Inf wouldn't clone a bot from anyone less superior..


AMEN.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on April 10, 2009, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: 40757;33620
I'm ussually not good with the pop-ups but I think I did a good job on this one. Hubs and Green snappers used to get a better wedge.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Archaic.jpg)


Does that has 2 stacked blacks?

If yes it looks fine.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: somestrangeguy on April 10, 2009, 09:15:58 AM
Quote from: Scrap Daddy;33607
Well, Spin Cycle is Aerial HK and Inf posted it like August 07. I fought it online even earlier so I don't know...
This is possibly why I dont remember seeing it, because I arrived a few weeks before BBEANS3.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 10, 2009, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: Naryar;33647
Does that has 2 stacked blacks?

If yes it looks fine.


Yeah that has 2 stacked blacks.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on April 10, 2009, 06:29:57 PM
Then it is pretty good.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 14, 2009, 06:53:39 PM
Alot of people were complaining about the wheels being too exposed on my bbeans entry so here's a slightly better version. The plow setup saves 1 kg.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/VelaAfter.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on April 14, 2009, 07:01:36 PM
Use the hidden (side) attachment points of each weapon snapper to attach drive and snowplows, and you'll save 2 snappers.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 14, 2009, 09:36:06 PM
That's actually a good idea. I'm not sure why I didn't think of that earlier.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 15, 2009, 10:59:40 PM
First 36 HS. Need to be fixed up on 2 things though. Exposed motors and it doesn't have Maces (which I would prefer). I didn't add maces because I think it would Touch the ground. Also, sorry for the bmp. I forgot when I saved it :/

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/SequoiaThrone.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on April 16, 2009, 10:32:27 AM
36 HS need a small chassis. It's fine as it is.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Venko on April 16, 2009, 10:46:34 AM
Good bot for a newbie... but you still need to make it INVERTABLE !
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on April 16, 2009, 12:57:32 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 16, 2009, 01:30:06 PM
I'm assuming you would need plastic to be invertible because I see no room at all for Slipper bottoms. Also, This bot havoks if you turn about ~900 degrees none stop in a circle. I had an idea last night after I shut off the computer on how to add those maces and make it less exposed. I'm going to test it out right now.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on April 16, 2009, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: 40757;34376
I'm assuming you would need plastic to be invertible because I see no room at all for Slipper bottoms. Also, This bot havoks if you turn about ~900 degrees none stop in a circle. I had an idea last night after I shut off the computer on how to add those maces and make it less exposed. I'm going to test it out right now.


nah you dont need grannies... just a different setup. i dont think even with grannies this bot would be invertible.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on April 16, 2009, 06:06:00 PM
I wouldnt say very nice, but looking good 40757. Won't get into the previous usage of that setup...but you are improving. Just keep it up.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 16, 2009, 08:34:55 PM
Thanks Inf. I appreciate it :approve:
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 20, 2009, 10:53:07 PM
Enacture is a Face Spinner / Juggler or whatever you want to call it. It's not clear but whatever it is it sure is effective :approve: It's designed to Scoop up the bot, and grind away the belly, kind of like NWB. The wedges had to be replaced with the light snappers since it couldn't handle the extra weight the green ones had. I had to compare the wedges side by side to see which one was most similar to my previous wedge setup. It's pretty much the same thing in my opinion as to the effectiveness of the wedges to the old setup I used.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Enacture.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Urjak on April 20, 2009, 11:04:00 PM
Now that looks effective, does it preform really well?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 21, 2009, 07:23:36 AM
Yeah it's doing good so far. However, somtimes when it faces wedged bots, Enacture can get under without difficulty but the other bot will sometimes have its wedges trapped under the Z-Teks, but that can just be fixed by lowering the weapons.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on April 21, 2009, 02:40:30 PM
Does it ever have trouble with bots flying over the top of it?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 21, 2009, 03:08:47 PM
No Suprisingly
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 27, 2009, 03:56:09 PM
The third, and probobly final upgrade to Vela. In Vela III, Vela is now Castor armored in the belly to stop pop-ups. Wheels are now hidden (it was despretly screaming for that). The first Vela is entered in bbeans 5 already. Oh, and now it's also invertible :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/VelabSideByside.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 28, 2009, 01:37:01 PM
Nobody has any comments at all??? :S That's odd
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: philetbabe on April 28, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
Quote from: 40757;35707
Nobody has any comments at all??? :S That's odd


we are voiceless in front of such a monster
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on April 28, 2009, 02:06:20 PM
only 2 maces?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 28, 2009, 02:07:45 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;35709
only 2 maces?


It's impossible to get a 36 HS with Snowplows, Casters, and Grannies all in one, under 800 kgs.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on April 28, 2009, 02:22:31 PM
yes i tried and this is what i got
1 nifty and 1 black(not good enough to stack blacks)
all hpzs
36 irons(they take less time to effee and they make the radius bigger)
shineys(if i downgrade to hp drives then i can have grannies and make it invertible!)
DSA!
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on April 28, 2009, 02:42:02 PM
Good 4 U. Does it have 4 HPZ weapons? And stack blacks and it'll be ok.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 28, 2009, 03:13:35 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;35715
yes i tried and this is what i got
1 nifty and 1 black(not good enough to stack blacks)
all hpzs
36 irons(they take less time to effee and they make the radius bigger)
shineys(if i downgrade to hp drives then i can have grannies and make it invertible!)
DSA!


I think you misunderstood my post :S

I meant it's not possible to have a 36 weaponed HS with 2 snowplows, a full belly Castor Protection, 2 black batteries, Grannies, weapons either Maces, or Irons, and all motors HP - ZTek.

Oh and yes Reier, it's all HP and it has 2 blacks.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on April 28, 2009, 04:21:58 PM
And roboman, you don't need to effe iron spikes. Just rotate them.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 30, 2009, 02:09:56 PM
Here's just a little bot that I've been working on in the past 2 days.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Ratchet.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Weirdo on April 30, 2009, 02:25:11 PM
I'm guessing 796 is the weight? In which case I understand why you used axe heads instead of more irons.

But wouldn't razors be better?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 30, 2009, 02:40:14 PM
Quote from: Weirdo;36008
I'm guessing 796 is the weight? In which case I understand why you used axe heads instead of more irons.

But wouldn't razors be better?


Razors are too brittle and short. The razors probobly wouldn't get past the two Ramplates, but even if it did, I wouldn't use it because I want the weapons to attack at the same time. If I use razors, then they would be very short compared to the spikes and not hit all at once.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on April 30, 2009, 03:11:59 PM
Not bad at all - just dump these ice picks, cause they have normals and they won't make damage placed like that.

Maybe swap them for irons on the unarmed attachment points on your disc ?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on April 30, 2009, 04:14:56 PM
I acually don't agree. It looks nice that way. The Ice picks can cause damage, if the are tuned by a notch.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on April 30, 2009, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: System32;36028
I acually don't agree. It looks nice that way. The Ice picks can cause damage, if the are tuned by a notch.

only the point does damage, and the sides are whats hitting the bot.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: pyscolone on April 30, 2009, 09:12:06 PM
The bot looks very nice and clean.. aside from the weapon system

O and when using the anchor to attach the green snappers just put the anchor right against the wall, than snapper glitch the blue snappers so you will be able to attach the greens without those extenders
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on April 30, 2009, 09:59:17 PM
The anchors are already against the wall, the extenders are there just to make the wedge length exactly the same. I had some trouble doing it without an extender.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: pyscolone on April 30, 2009, 10:03:26 PM
Well if you just use another extender on the snapper reaching outward the burst will be less exposed.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on May 05, 2009, 06:19:02 PM
Here's my entry for Inf's tourney. It took forever to get it to be a MW. Airtight.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Murken.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on May 05, 2009, 06:19:59 PM
The airtight statement is false.

But I'm happy to see you're not naming it Murken2!
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on May 05, 2009, 06:21:34 PM
:S It seemed pretty compact to me, unless your talking about the height.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on May 05, 2009, 06:22:25 PM
Trust me, space can be slightly reduced.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on May 05, 2009, 06:23:15 PM
Quote from: 40757;37256
:S It seemed pretty compact to me, unless your talking about the height.


you can move the snappers inwards, axle glitch the arms off, place the snapper2, and then bring the arms back.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on May 05, 2009, 06:25:40 PM
Yes, other ways as well.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on May 10, 2009, 10:29:39 PM
Some of you guys are going to hate me for this but whatever. I sent this bot for the new Starcore pack to replace NWB. I sent it because it has better wedges. Starcore is testing it right now.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/NWB.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/NWBvNWB.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: R1885 on May 11, 2009, 09:48:48 AM
Weapons are to close together.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on May 11, 2009, 10:39:43 AM
yeah, It's not good enough. :p
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on May 11, 2009, 02:07:10 PM
It's only like 2 cm closer, not much at all. If anything, having a better wedge surpasses a weapon that's slightly closer together, which also gives the motors protection in the chassis.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on May 18, 2009, 07:46:13 PM
Much better than the first Sequoia Throne. More stable, better weaponry, and also castor armored. I highly doubt I can shed another 1.9 kg's for Slipper Bottoms. Also the first bot I created which uses the snapper loading glitch.
 
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/SequoiaThroneII.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on May 18, 2009, 10:18:11 PM
I dont know why you said 1.9kg for slippers. you would need (does math in head) 7.9kg.

buttttttttt Inf likes.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on May 18, 2009, 10:25:51 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;39543
I dont know why you said 1.9kg for slippers. you would need (does math in head) 7.9kg.

buttttttttt Inf likes.


Well I was going to remove a castor since one of them was making it a little tipsy, but I fixed that by moving the HPZs downward just a bit so that castor wouldn't touch the ground.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on May 26, 2009, 02:11:26 PM
It's alright I guess. Definitely not one of my favorite bots.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Redemption.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on May 26, 2009, 02:13:43 PM
wud be gud except for custom components
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on May 26, 2009, 02:14:38 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;40682
wud be gud except for custom components

It's a skin.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on May 26, 2009, 02:48:37 PM
Do you honestly think 40757 would use custom components on this ??
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on May 26, 2009, 02:52:43 PM
Another fail for the list...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on May 26, 2009, 03:10:01 PM
meh it kinda looked like the fridgy motor
edit: why is sys32 always a jerk towards me?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on May 26, 2009, 03:47:35 PM
Hmm...
Take a guess.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on May 31, 2009, 10:34:28 PM
1st version of my Dementia. It's also hard to tell from the angle but the spikes are pointed upwards slightly. 398 somthing. It's the bot I made for Inf's Summer Magic pack, though I probably will change it more later.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/INF-Dementia.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/DvF.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on June 01, 2009, 04:39:55 PM
And there are no comments...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on June 01, 2009, 04:59:51 PM
a quote from pyscolone: "it takes a while for good bots to get comments, from what i've noticed." (or something along those lines)

my thinking is that if people can't come up with a question or criticism, they tend not to comment.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on June 10, 2009, 07:15:48 PM
200th post.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Dissolution.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on June 10, 2009, 07:53:53 PM
Ohohohawesome! XD
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on June 23, 2009, 11:27:28 AM
Happy B-day, 40757!
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on June 23, 2009, 11:39:48 AM
happy b-day!

looks like it has some extra space between the hpzs and the ddts
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: R1885 on June 23, 2009, 11:43:08 AM
Happy B-day.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on June 23, 2009, 12:55:52 PM
Nice B day. And nice bot.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on June 25, 2009, 01:56:20 AM
oh haha thanks.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on July 02, 2009, 09:25:06 PM
An upgrade of the original Enacture (Page 18). Better wedges and turns faster.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/EnactureII.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Scrap Daddy on July 02, 2009, 09:31:29 PM
Pretty nice. You really want to avoid 4 blue snappers on a bot and I have an idea to get it down to 2 blue and 2 green for the wedges.

Attach all the face spinners off the front two snappers. Then a green snapper where you have the plows attached and put the snowplows off the wedges. Make the chassis smaller from there and you should have enough weight to put blades on the wedges or a snowplow ontop to keep bots on the spinners.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Flying_Chao on July 02, 2009, 10:01:02 PM
What is with the jumble of color in the corner?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on July 02, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: Flying_Chao;48296
What is with the jumble of color in the corner?


Just unused space.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on July 03, 2009, 03:51:43 AM
If you set your back colour the colour of the back in the bot lab, you can get the bot infront of the results. Look at my wiki page for an example.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on July 15, 2009, 06:15:28 PM
Not sure what to do with this anymore. The DSA bot is ready but I'm not sure what to do with the plastic one. It's not invertible either so I'm not sure if adding a Nifty would be able to let it Self-Right.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Seism15.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on July 15, 2009, 08:34:36 PM
You mean a nifty instead of a black? Don't.
And Isn't there a Seism 13 in BBEANS?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on July 15, 2009, 09:06:41 PM
I meant a Nifty and a Black with a 3rd Razor and Plastic, no Rubbers. Yep 13 is in bbeans but this one is a Middleweight.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on July 15, 2009, 10:20:54 PM
Vanquish is having lots of competition nowadays. I'll try to build one later. XD

Oh yeah, you can still add another razor+extender for the plastic version.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on July 15, 2009, 11:11:41 PM
But the thing is it's somewhat underpowered with only one Black. 4 Razors would be tough for it to use the entire fight with only one Supervolt.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on July 16, 2009, 03:13:50 PM
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/7893Seism 15.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/7893Seism 15.rar)

Code: [Select]
list.append((&quot;Seism 15&quot;,&quot;Popup&quot;,{'invertible':False,'topspeed':100,'throttle':140,'turnspeed':3.5,'range':35,'weapons':(1,2)}))
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 05, 2009, 12:06:44 AM
2 batts, It was meant to have 3 batts but 2 works fine and I was too lazy to remake the chassis again (took me at least an hour to get it to this point). Wedges are great as usual.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Unmagnanimous.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: takatsukiyayoi on September 05, 2009, 12:21:52 AM
Nice FS/side hammer hybrid.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on September 05, 2009, 12:33:38 AM
weak spot in the middle! that t connector is gonna die.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Roboquad on September 05, 2009, 01:27:09 AM
Quote from: Sage;64160
weak spot in the middle! that t connector is gonna die.


I can't tell how true this is.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 05, 2009, 07:22:21 AM
I would put a 20 CM extender, then a T extender and then directly attach those RADs to it, would give more protection to the T extender.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 05, 2009, 10:13:42 AM
Quote from: Sage;64160
weak spot in the middle! that t connector is gonna die.


Exactly. Might as well not have it as an FS like that.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on September 05, 2009, 10:20:15 AM
Replace it with dual snow plows or try and use the plow you have to protect the T connector.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: kill343gs on September 05, 2009, 01:26:18 PM
put the RADs closer into the middle so bots are less likely to go between the spinners.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 05, 2009, 02:07:00 PM
Urg.... I hate getting advice >_< I'll just stack the Blacks into each other and do something else with the weight to protect the T-connector.

Quote from: somestrangeguy;64214
I would put a 20 CM extender, then a T extender and then directly attach those RADs to it, would give more protection to the T extender.

You would think that, but nope. I've tried it before showcasing Unmagnanimous. It's way too far forward, the inner Razors on the Side Hammers won't do any damage.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 05, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
dude you could just mount the motors off the DDT's you are using for wedges.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 05, 2009, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;64334
dude you could just mount the motors off the DDT's you are using for wedges.


Part Two

https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2317
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 05, 2009, 02:56:57 PM
I'm such a dumbass >_<
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 05, 2009, 08:40:51 PM
Much better now. I just don't like how the wedge is slightly worse. I also AI'ed it this time from scratch instead of taking a Starcore bot and making minor adjustments (No Side hammer Face Spinners in Starcore :neutral:).

It took 2 hours to build.

https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Unmagnanimous.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Unmagnanimous.rar)

Code: [Select]
list.append((&quot;Unmagnanimous&quot;,&quot;Omni&quot;,{'invertible':False,'topspeed':100,'turnspeed':3.5,'weapons':(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22)}))
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 10, 2009, 04:59:41 PM
Rigmortis:

A rather simple Flail SnS but it's very good. Its many weapons, fast drive, good battery power, hidden drive motors, and invertibility wins it a great amount of its fights, but of course it has one major weakness. It takes a couple of seconds before the flails extend so it's open to attacks for a little bit in the beginning (Kind of like how a parachute doesn't open for a couple of seconds). It does typically survive these attacks from Rammers and Pop ups though, and the flails extend after it's been touched. Overall, I'm very pleased.

You'll be seeing this in Inf's AI pack.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Rigmortis.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 10, 2009, 05:02:56 PM
Thats very neat, it looked like it had some empty space from the top right picture, but the bottom one shows thats its very much airtight.

Good job :D
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on September 10, 2009, 05:03:13 PM
u dont nned a black, a nifty should power that bot fine.
the wheels are off center and that greatly reduces speed.
other than that its guuud
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on September 10, 2009, 05:06:44 PM
rm, it's fine.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on September 10, 2009, 05:10:07 PM
k.
the wheels to seem troubling ,though
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 10, 2009, 05:11:40 PM
No the wheels are fine. Most SnS have an awkward chassis like that. Take a look at "Spin Doctor" from the Starcore AI pack.

I also just got an idea to make the flails extend as soon as the fight starts. I'm building it now to see if it works.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on September 10, 2009, 05:20:31 PM
ok
but in real life it effects turning speed a ton... but ra2 isnt that realistic.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 10, 2009, 06:19:27 PM
mmmmmmskeptic about large chassis
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Scrap Daddy on September 10, 2009, 06:41:01 PM
i feel the same way ^

even up those irons too so it looks nicer
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 10, 2009, 06:59:01 PM
I was actually thinking about replacing it since the flails don't extend until about 4 seconds. It's just too long and exposed to rammers and popups for that.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on September 10, 2009, 07:18:29 PM
try a trinity flail sns :)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 10, 2009, 07:24:24 PM
Nah, I like gut rippers. I think I'll enter Seism 16 into the pack though, so I have space for one more Middle Weight.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 11, 2009, 05:32:23 AM
Quote from: 40757;65290
I was actually thinking about replacing it since the flails don't extend until about 4 seconds. It's just too long and exposed to rammers and popups for that.


Because have like 100kg on each one.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 11, 2009, 08:59:35 PM
It's actually the complete opposite. It would never extend when I removed all the spikes with just the mace. I'll see if plastic works better with a heavier flail.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on September 12, 2009, 04:43:13 AM
Inf is right, according to laws of physics. They're heavier, so you need more force to extend them... that is more acceleration = max spinup speed.

Anyways i have a 3WD flail SnS in preparation for RAW... you guys will see
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 19, 2009, 01:31:41 PM
Perturbed is new.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/RAWII.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on September 19, 2009, 01:43:57 PM
Like the new one. Insides please?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 19, 2009, 02:29:39 PM
what do the wedges use?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 19, 2009, 02:33:39 PM
Blue snappers. The stereotype that Blue snappers are bad isn't true. Seism 16 uses Blue snappers and it got under Naryar's best wedged Middle Weight bot in the tourney 2-0, and Seism 16 is my best wedged bot in the MW division. Perturbed also uses Blue snappers. Drive is attached to the back of each snapper for Perturbed.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 19, 2009, 02:34:38 PM
Nah, Blue snappers suck
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on September 19, 2009, 02:48:56 PM
It's the same blue snapper that got under at least 95% of your bots in the Re-stocked AI pack first try ;)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on October 10, 2009, 03:22:36 PM
I think I'm gonna use this instead of the fixed Unmagnanimous for Inf's AI pack.

Very very good wedges. I think this bot has my best HW wedges because of all of the forward weight into it. Irons on the top keep bots from flying over it. Overall, very good wamer.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Zathura.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on October 10, 2009, 03:37:16 PM
Is that the same unoriginal skin that's been used at least 100 times ??

The bot looks good, however.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on October 10, 2009, 03:42:08 PM
The skin is going to be changed for every bot I submit into the pack.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on October 10, 2009, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: 40757;71759
Overall, very good wamer.
what?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on October 10, 2009, 03:50:58 PM
Wedge + Rammer = Wammer
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: roboman2444 on October 10, 2009, 04:01:57 PM
oh...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on October 18, 2009, 09:58:09 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/INFSequoiaThrone.jpg)

Inf's AI Pack Team: Sequoia Throne

Top Row (L to R): Voltile, Wulf-E, Seism 16
Bottom Row (L to R): Perturbed II, Zathura, Vela IV

Voltile: A LW Rammer that is meant to attack low. If It gets flipped, then It's still no problem. It doesn't tip over to its spikes and become Immobilized. Instead, it has an extender keeping it from tipping over. Even if the spikes are high, It isn't as bad as you'd think. It's knocked out some Shallow wedged popups up side down.

Wulf-E: LW HS upgrade of Rust-E. 6 Bear Claws, 3 Maces, and 2 Big castors protecting the front from attacks. Out-Weapons most HS, and still invertible.

Seism 16: You've seen this before.

Perturbed II: Upgrade of the original one. The main reason it was upgraded was because unlike my other Blue snapper wedges, I could not make the wedges good for my life. These use Green Snappers, and have stellar wedges (But the worst in the team when you compare it to Zathura and Seism 16).

Zathura: Recently Showcased.

Vela IV: Invertible, Ram Plate protects the top of the Z-Teks, and Castors are now longer. Its weak spot is the face in the back.

All have DSA except for Seism 16, and Wulf-E.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: DuckRA2 on October 18, 2009, 10:54:58 PM
not bad!   Great job
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on November 06, 2009, 08:33:28 PM
Named after my favorite band.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/TDWP.jpg)

Plastic
1 Black
HP Drive and Weapons
6 Bear Claws
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: DuckRA2 on November 06, 2009, 09:25:33 PM
I say rid the wedge chassis, make it just a rectangle, less chance of getting destroyed
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on November 06, 2009, 09:28:35 PM
Duck has a point, since claws have normals and can't gut-rip the opponent easily. But what happens when you angle them upwards a notch?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on November 06, 2009, 10:31:13 PM
Chassis wedges are so the other bot doesn't have traction while TDWP pins it against the wall and hits the sides, front, ect. TDWP isn't a gut ripper.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on November 21, 2009, 01:58:34 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/DespisedIcon.jpg)

Currently one of my favorite bots to play around with. Surprisingly good wedges and damage. DSA, 2 Blacks.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on November 21, 2009, 03:06:15 AM
Infra-meets-HunterKillerTank. :O

A little bit of empty space, but you probably can't add much with the extra weight. Two thumbs up. :D
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on November 21, 2009, 09:54:43 AM
Angle the baseplate anchor a little farther forward so the VS discs are farther forward. The way it is it looks like he weight's more in the back. Personally, I think it's a little too skinny...

I might have to build one using the wide drive setup (the one where you axle glitch the wheels.)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Jack Daniels on November 21, 2009, 12:11:55 PM
I agree with Pwn... there is a little bit of empty space, probably could be cleaned up a tad.  I would think that if the spinners were closer to the front it would be a bit more effective, just my opinion.  Otherwise it seems like a pretty awesome bot.  Battleshots/scores?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on November 21, 2009, 12:26:50 PM
The empty space is there so it's not so skinny (even though it somewhat is already). I was playing with the discs and how it usually affects the wedges the farther back u put them, but its actually not as bad as you would think. None of the bots in the beta inf pack have gotten under it yet. If you guys mean the gut ripping when it pins the other bot, then nope. It reaches fine against other bot.

I'll post some battleshots of it in a second.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: infiniteinertia on November 21, 2009, 01:38:48 PM
I was building something like that before my computer was sent to the shop. I used (I think) 20 razors and less casters and 2 ramplates
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on November 21, 2009, 03:17:36 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/DesIco.jpg)

As requested by Jack. All first tries.

 Would you mind Inf if I replaced Zathura with Despised Icon? I have the AI bindings and everything needed.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Virus Bomb on November 21, 2009, 03:21:06 PM
I wanted to make something like this, except with all caster armor. Oh well. Looks good.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Naryar on November 21, 2009, 03:34:46 PM
In all honestly, your building is no different than Inf's.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on November 21, 2009, 11:12:29 PM
Quote from: Naryar;79914
In all honestly, your building is no different than Inf's.


Disagree.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on November 21, 2009, 11:40:20 PM
Explain. You got me curious.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Jonzu95 on November 22, 2009, 05:55:36 AM
What AI pack is that?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on November 22, 2009, 06:10:21 AM
II AI.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Jonzu95 on November 22, 2009, 06:15:17 AM
O.o I want that!! If that AI would be little challenge to me...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on November 22, 2009, 06:25:59 AM
https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2565
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Clickbeetle on November 27, 2009, 04:33:42 PM
Yay, a Dark Pounder-style wedge VS.  I like that bot.  Kind of like if you took Heaven's Sawmill and turned it into a gut-ripper design instead of grab-and-throw.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on November 28, 2009, 02:43:24 AM
Despised Icon's bot file (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Despised Icon.rar)

Code: [Select]
list.append((&quot;Despised Icon&quot;,&quot;Omni&quot;,{'range':30,'topspeed':99,'throttle':130,'turn':30,'turnspeed':2.5,'radius':0.3,'weapons':(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16)}))
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on December 06, 2009, 10:31:07 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Perturbed2.jpg)

Fixed versions of Perturbed and Volatile. I don't see them improving any more than they are now. I forgot if Perturbed has DSA or Plastic (Probably plastic though because I don't remember removing anything to add the antenna). Anyways, Perturbed is finished with wedge testing. Worst wedges on my team but still very impressive (It's hard to top Despised Icon and Seism 16). Volatile encountered problems with invertibility in its first version (and I realized how stupid it is to have its bottom exposed like that). I like axes more than Iron spikes anyways for rammers.

Despised Icon also replaced Zathura. I never liked Zathura much in the first place.

So the final team for Inf's pack is most likely: Wulf-E, Volatile, Perturbed, Seism 16, Despised Icon, and Vela. All bots are AI-ed and ready to be sent.

I'm also working on a bot that uses Devil's wedge shape. I tried it as a MW version but it's a failure. Just not enough weight to work with to be made effective so it's going to be a HW.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on December 07, 2009, 10:22:32 PM
Crappy week for the stock showcase =/ I was expecting lots of feedback from this.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: The Ounce on December 07, 2009, 10:37:37 PM
It seems like the entire showcase section is slow now, so you're not alone.

Volatile looks good, but I personally prefer the old Perturbed.  I don't know stock as well as others, though, so I may be wrong.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: JoeBlo on December 07, 2009, 11:07:54 PM
a Quote of a Quote of a Quote :P

Quote from: Sage
a quote from pyscolone: "it takes a while for good bots to get comments, from what i've noticed." (or something along those lines)

my thinking is that if people can't come up with a question or criticism, they tend not to comment.


 :bigsmile:
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Clickbeetle on December 12, 2009, 09:35:23 PM
Make the samurai sword going the other way on Perturbed, so you can pick up a bit of extra damage.  14 kg weapon, might as well use it while it's there.

Volatile looks too tumbly IMO.  Kind of like Flame was in BBEANS3.  I would put the battery in front of or behind the drive to make it longer (and hopefully more stable).

Can't think of anything else, they are both excellently built bots.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on January 28, 2010, 07:48:05 PM
It's been a while.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/Solaris.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: System32 on January 28, 2010, 08:57:09 PM
Cool. The rammer sucks though. Unless it has heavy stacking on this axes.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on January 28, 2010, 09:33:31 PM
I don't get it.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on January 28, 2010, 09:44:27 PM
True Popup with static razors. Sucks, but looks cool either way.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on January 28, 2010, 09:58:40 PM
Should have put it in the inspiration thread xD
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 04, 2010, 10:58:08 PM
Built this because of being aggrivated from failed flat bed juggler attempts. I'll get that juggler right eventually. Un-named because generic bots don't deserve cool names >_>

799.7
36 Maces, 2 Irons
Bursted Drive
Probably invertible (untested)
DSA
2 Blacks


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/roxytwizzler/G3N3R1C.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on February 04, 2010, 11:25:53 PM
Looks a little messy...
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Stagfish on February 05, 2010, 01:32:01 AM
it looks awesome
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Avalanche on February 05, 2010, 03:22:50 AM
I think we just divided by ZERO.Shi*.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on February 05, 2010, 05:16:39 AM
That's odd. From my calculations, I think you can actually have 3 irons on that. Or maybe that was just a typo.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on February 05, 2010, 05:50:40 AM
It's possible but not practical since the irons would barely stick out.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on February 05, 2010, 05:56:09 AM
Ah. Still a nice job. :D
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Clickbeetle on February 05, 2010, 11:38:46 PM
generic bots don't deserve cool names


There's your bot name right there.  And not too bad a one either.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on July 13, 2010, 10:44:50 PM
Hai

(http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/mrlolsome/RA2/Nocturne.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on July 14, 2010, 06:56:12 AM
Odd chassis is odd. o_O

Personally, I'd put the black between the drive so the anchor can be in between the snappers. Dunno if that will hinder its wedginess, though.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on July 14, 2010, 03:53:53 PM
I moved the wheels back to make them less vulnerable since I had some extra weight. I could probably make the same bot with Perturbed's chassis.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Somebody on July 17, 2010, 06:34:33 PM
Doesn't look like it has enough weapons. Does it lose all of them much?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on July 17, 2010, 09:46:02 PM
6 razors is surely enough for a gut-ripper. :P
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on July 19, 2010, 12:46:54 AM
8 Actually. Two in the extender work, partially for protection.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 04, 2012, 06:21:43 PM
Hey, it's been a while.

One request though. I'd really appreciate if anybody had any of my old bot files. I lost all of them along with this game when my computer was reset a long while ago. I happened to have stumbled across a download link of RA2 yesterday, and this happened:

(http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/mrlolsome/Codex.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on March 04, 2012, 06:24:09 PM
Good to see you 40757.

That bot looks awesome and quite unique
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Mr. AS on March 04, 2012, 06:28:40 PM
looks pretty cool, but does it lean to the left or right during battle?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Hercules on March 04, 2012, 06:31:04 PM
i Hope that there are 2 blacks in that
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 09090901 on March 04, 2012, 06:38:07 PM
Two old bots I found of yours

Unmagnanimous
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Unmagnanimous.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Unmagnanimous.rar)

Seism 16
https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Exchange/MW/40757_Seism%2016.bot (https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Exchange/MW/40757_Seism%2016.bot)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 090901 on March 04, 2012, 06:39:26 PM

Seism 15 and Despised Icon

https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/7893Seism 15.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/7893Seism%2015.rar)

Code: [Select]
list.append((&quot;Seism 15&quot;,&quot;Popup&quot;,{'invertible':False,'topspeed':100,'throttle':140,'turnspeed':3.5,'range':35,'weapons':(1,2)}))


https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Despised%20Icon.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Despised%20Icon.rar)

Code: [Select]
list.append((&quot;Despised Icon&quot;,&quot;Omni&quot;,{'range':30,'topspeed':99,'throttle':130,'turn':30,'turnspeed':2.5,'radius':0.3,'weapons':(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16)}))
 

Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 04, 2012, 06:45:49 PM
nice bot! always love those that have axle loaded hpzteks. does the front rack ever get in way of bots sliding up?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Virus Bomb on March 04, 2012, 06:53:40 PM
Nice. You sticking around 407?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Clickbeetle on March 04, 2012, 07:01:39 PM
A juggler-rammer hybrid, nice.  Don't think I've seen one of those before.
 
My only potential gripe would be the single wedge... in my experience, jugglers with a single wedge just don't perform well for some reason.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 04, 2012, 08:02:47 PM

Here's the bot file: https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Codex.zip (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Codex.zip)

Mr. Awsumsauce: Nope.

Hercules: Of course.

Geice: <3

090901: <3

Sage: Only with other wedged bots sometimes, or anything with a skinny front for that matter (for example, a chassis wedge by itself, but an HS wouldn't).

Virus Bomb: Probably.

Clickbeetle: The wedge works pretty well in head on collisions, but it usually prevents Codex from getting under the other bot again when dancing with it. It would probably work better during dancing if I shortened the wedge, but that in turn would hurt its wedgieness.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on March 04, 2012, 11:48:04 PM
Sup dude
Why you not using your old showcase?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on March 04, 2012, 11:58:03 PM
Sup dude
Why you not using your old showcase?

Done!
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Badnik96 on March 05, 2012, 02:54:10 PM
Hey 40757, nice to see you kickin' around again. Bot looks cool.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: madman3 on March 05, 2012, 04:14:34 PM
Good to see a good builder back.
Bot looks good, but the setup you have in terms of weapons looks best for killing wedges and a single wedge setup isn't so great at enhancing that from my experience.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 05, 2012, 05:17:56 PM
Good to see a good builder back.
Bot looks good, but the setup you have in terms of weapons looks best for killing wedges and a single wedge setup isn't so great at enhancing that from my experience.


I'm thinking of giving it two wedges at the expense of the front weapon rack. The weapon rack isn't really doing it for me when I could benefit more from the two wedges. Just theory-crafting, nothing set in stone yet.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 06, 2012, 08:23:37 PM
Much better.

(http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/mrlolsome/CodexII.jpg)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Hercules on March 06, 2012, 08:39:50 PM
Looks very cool, the only impromvent that i can think is rotating the upper plow upside down for better traping
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 06, 2012, 08:42:24 PM
Upside-down plows aren't as tall as rightside-up.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Enigm@ on March 06, 2012, 08:43:25 PM
That t-connector does nothing.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 06, 2012, 08:44:49 PM
That t-connector does nothing.


Plows.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Reier on March 06, 2012, 11:24:18 PM
That t-connector does nothing.
Haha you think he put it on just for looks?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 09, 2012, 09:40:51 PM
I can't believe it's been two years since I've last built an HS.

Anyway, this won't lose to another HS very often. Wedged bots work the best against it. I've always wanted somebody to guess the extender setup of one of my bots, so anybody that guesses it right gets an imaginary high five.

(http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/mrlolsome/BANGWOOSH.png)
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Sage on March 09, 2012, 10:38:11 PM
Well... we need to know the details. whats the insides? how many snappers? whats the drive?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on March 09, 2012, 10:45:51 PM
My guess is RAD drive, Nifty, Snapper II with the secret AP facing the front, which is where the weapon system is mounted. The snapper arm is facing down with a sideways 20cm rotated to face the front. A 20cm's mounted above it to hold the plow, and another 20cm's mounted in front of it to hold to 2 razors on an extender.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: J on March 09, 2012, 11:00:33 PM
with the secret AP facing the front-
Though judging by how tall the bot is, wouldn't it have that white attachment point sticking out the top, though?
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Pwnator on March 09, 2012, 11:05:04 PM
with the secret AP facing the front-
Though judging by how tall the bot is, wouldn't it have that white attachment point sticking out the top, though?

The other attachment. Should've clarified that the snapper was on its side.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 09, 2012, 11:09:32 PM
RAD drive, 1 supervolt, 1 blue snapper.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: NFX on March 10, 2012, 06:20:23 AM
Do like. I'd be surprised to fit a Blackvolt in there, along with RADs and a SnapperII. Death By Purple's more or less the same size, but only has a Nifty. It reminds me of Snap!Happy 6.3 slightly, only with an extra razor and slower drive. If you need a bit of extra reach, you oculd swap the outer maces for irons.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 11, 2012, 10:32:45 AM
The snapper is actually placed with the arm on the top.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: Fracture on March 11, 2012, 12:09:31 PM
Secret AP facing the front, unraised, with two straight 20 cm extenders coming off of it towards the front attached with the side attachments facing up. The 20cm closest to the SnapperII uses its upward pointing side attachments for a T connector for the weapons and a 20cm for the plow. The razors are just attached to the end of the second 20cm off the SnapperII.

It's hard to guess because you can't tell if the Z-Teks have been attached from the sides or from the top.
Title: Re: 40757's Showcase II
Post by: 40757 on March 13, 2012, 06:39:41 PM
Surprisingly correct actually.