I don't really have a lot to add, but I appreciate the discussion being brought up on what exactly this community should be, and how we can make it fulfill that role for its members. I'll mention that we've seen many forms of forum activity in the past few years like AI/mod packs, new tutorials, more active showcases, the challenge board, BOTM, and random discussions in Off-Topic, but I feel like the most successful have still been tournaments and RA3/Robot Rumble (well, when there were exciting updates). Those might be good starting points to focus our efforts on for the coming year. Adding to that, I've suggested in previous threads some form of archiving and documenting what's going on in the community on a semi-official page (it was just for GTMCS at the time, but it would extend to other events), like tournament results (even highlights and summary write-ups as well), BOTM winners, mod releases, and other major events, to bring more value to what we do as a community.
tournament results (even highlights and summary write-ups as well)
I think SM is a pretty cool guy, eh builds unicycle-bots and doesn't afraid of anything
also lol at most toxic guy around calling others out on this sh**
I'd like the site to not take 30 seconds to load any page when I'm logged in on my desktop. It's basically stopped me from checking the forums.Real talk though, the community is past the point of no return I'm pretty sure. Most/all of the 'pillars' of the community are gone, RA2 content has slowed to a crawl and non-IRL stuff has been nonexistent for months. There's no reason for anyone to come to GTM anymore. The discord has beyond sh**ty memes and the very occasional "here's a screenshot of my 700th IRL drumbot/flipper", and the forums have... I don't even know. Download links I guess. Maybe an IRL tournament every now and then, but even most of those are hosted off site nowadays, plus no real incentive to host means that I think tournament content on the forums will become more and more rare as fewer people can be arsed with putting in the effort.It's nice that Kill finally giving up seems to have been a wake up call, but really you're months, maybe over a year or more too late. Too many important community members have moved on. The only way I see GTM not completely going out with a whimper in the future is if cjbruce's game launches and creates an influx of new members, but that's a massive longshot in multiple ways.Thanks for everything GTM, but I think your time has come.
Quote from: Badger on January 18, 2019, 04:32:21 AMI'd like the site to not take 30 seconds to load any page when I'm logged in on my desktop. It's basically stopped me from checking the forums.Real talk though, the community is past the point of no return I'm pretty sure. Most/all of the 'pillars' of the community are gone, RA2 content has slowed to a crawl and non-IRL stuff has been nonexistent for months. There's no reason for anyone to come to GTM anymore. The discord has beyond sh**ty memes and the very occasional "here's a screenshot of my 700th IRL drumbot/flipper", and the forums have... I don't even know. Download links I guess. Maybe an IRL tournament every now and then, but even most of those are hosted off site nowadays, plus no real incentive to host means that I think tournament content on the forums will become more and more rare as fewer people can be arsed with putting in the effort.It's nice that Kill finally giving up seems to have been a wake up call, but really you're months, maybe over a year or more too late. Too many important community members have moved on. The only way I see GTM not completely going out with a whimper in the future is if cjbruce's game launches and creates an influx of new members, but that's a massive longshot in multiple ways.Thanks for everything GTM, but I think your time has come.Have you considered leaving if there's so little left in the site for you?The constant defeatism helps no-one, and frankly just makes you look like one of those "everything's pointless" 14 year olds
Quote from: TheRoboteer on January 18, 2019, 04:42:22 AMQuote from: Badger on January 18, 2019, 04:32:21 AMI'd like the site to not take 30 seconds to load any page when I'm logged in on my desktop. It's basically stopped me from checking the forums.Real talk though, the community is past the point of no return I'm pretty sure. Most/all of the 'pillars' of the community are gone, RA2 content has slowed to a crawl and non-IRL stuff has been nonexistent for months. There's no reason for anyone to come to GTM anymore. The discord has beyond sh**ty memes and the very occasional "here's a screenshot of my 700th IRL drumbot/flipper", and the forums have... I don't even know. Download links I guess. Maybe an IRL tournament every now and then, but even most of those are hosted off site nowadays, plus no real incentive to host means that I think tournament content on the forums will become more and more rare as fewer people can be arsed with putting in the effort.It's nice that Kill finally giving up seems to have been a wake up call, but really you're months, maybe over a year or more too late. Too many important community members have moved on. The only way I see GTM not completely going out with a whimper in the future is if cjbruce's game launches and creates an influx of new members, but that's a massive longshot in multiple ways.Thanks for everything GTM, but I think your time has come.Have you considered leaving if there's so little left in the site for you?The constant defeatism helps no-one, and frankly just makes you look like one of those "everything's pointless" 14 year oldsEncouraging people to leave is probably the absolute last thing that people in GTM should be doing if you want the community to last for even the mid-term future. Maybe gloomy blogposting won't help either. I just wanted to type out my feelings on where I think the community is headed. I'm not trying to pose as an edgy nihilistic kid for cool points.
DSL-IRL is the libtard’s meta. Go drink more soylent, retard! #BLUELIVESMATTER
i'm just going to be honest and say that I don't really know where gtm fits in anymore with the current ra2 community. gtm is no longer the only ra2 community around, and its debatable if it's even the most active/popular nowadays. the general consensus that I get from most members is that this isn't the main community (can't blame them tbh) for them even if the active ra2 population is shared amongst all of the groups. obviously there are people who feel that gtm is the main community still, but continuing to treat it as if it's the sole pillar of ra2 isn't a good way forwards imo.these last few years have seen maybe the most dramatic paradigm shift in terms of our userbase, and idk about anyone else but at this point it honestly feels like there's a massive divide within the ra2 community. think back to the fall of 2017, but maybe a tad less open and hostile with one another. idk how else to put it, but it feels like gtm is a forum that's occupied by multiple groups that have just tolerate one another rather than one single community.im not asking anyone to change their views or how things are ran off-site. obviously it's the job of gtm's staff to make changes that would better reflect the current views of its userbase, but I'm not really sure where we're supposed to go besides "ban so and so and add this feature here" (not saying that either option is off the table"im not trying to go full "waaa gtm/ra2 is dying", but I think separating ra2 from gtm is an important factor when deciding it's future
Quote from: geese on January 18, 2019, 05:46:14 AMi'm just going to be honest and say that I don't really know where gtm fits in anymore with the current ra2 community. gtm is no longer the only ra2 community around, and its debatable if it's even the most active/popular nowadays. the general consensus that I get from most members is that this isn't the main community (can't blame them tbh) for them even if the active ra2 population is shared amongst all of the groups. obviously there are people who feel that gtm is the main community still, but continuing to treat it as if it's the sole pillar of ra2 isn't a good way forwards imo.these last few years have seen maybe the most dramatic paradigm shift in terms of our userbase, and idk about anyone else but at this point it honestly feels like there's a massive divide within the ra2 community. think back to the fall of 2017, but maybe a tad less open and hostile with one another. idk how else to put it, but it feels like gtm is a forum that's occupied by multiple groups that have just tolerate one another rather than one single community.im not asking anyone to change their views or how things are ran off-site. obviously it's the job of gtm's staff to make changes that would better reflect the current views of its userbase, but I'm not really sure where we're supposed to go besides "ban so and so and add this feature here" (not saying that either option is off the table"im not trying to go full "waaa gtm/ra2 is dying", but I think separating ra2 from gtm is an important factor when deciding it's futureI'm not sure the other RA2 communities can survive without GTM, even if it's just as a resource centre. This place has 10+ years worth of files, data, tutorials, developments etc on it. I know there's folks who disagree with me but I still feel it IS the central pillar of the RA2 community. It's no longer the ONLY pillar, but if it falls so does everyone else.
not trying to change the subject, but we're currently looking into appointing someone to head admin to fill kill's positionit's not set in stone yet, but we do want to have it set up to where the userbase has direct influence over who takes the positionalso I'm going to bed for now so this is on hoppin for now. please clap
Quote from: geese on January 18, 2019, 06:29:39 AMnot trying to change the subject, but we're currently looking into appointing someone to head admin to fill kill's positionit's not set in stone yet, but we do want to have it set up to where the userbase has direct influence over who takes the positionalso I'm going to bed for now so this is on hoppin for now. please clapTBH I think the 2018 awards were evidence that we shouldn't let people vote on stuff like this