DSL-IRL is the libtard’s meta. Go drink more soylent, retard! #BLUELIVESMATTER
One thing people should take note of is that the average age of the fourm is probably a lot older than it used to be in 2008-11. A lot of regulars here are in their late teens or somewhere in there 20s and have more important irl stuff to deal with like work/school.
Quote from: Geice on August 12, 2016, 06:28:45 PMOne thing people should take note of is that the average age of the fourm is probably a lot older than it used to be in 2008-11. A lot of regulars here are in their late teens or somewhere in there 20s and have more important irl stuff to deal with like work/school. Yeah, when I joined the community, I was around 12 or 13. Now I am in my late twenties. Yick! Just as I am moving ever further away from my youth, RA2, too, is forever aging. It isn't a hot new game. Kids don't see it on the shelf at Target and think, "Cool, that's like Battlebots!" Hell, kids don't even buy PC games from Target anymore. They go on Steam. If they stumble upon Robot Arena on there, they will instead find the disappointment that is RA3.RA3, in many ways, both built and cursed this community. It was always a hypothetical; a representation of our hope. When the game launched, hope was tarnished. Even with the resurgence of Battlebots and Robot Wars, we will never get the RA3 we wished for. We are no longer anticipating or wishing for anything.Without a change of focus, we'll simply be a forum dedicated to a thirteen-year-old budget title, and numbers will continue to decrease.
We could try organizing some RA2 online tournaments. Have everything divided into regions to reduce lag as much as possible and maybe have third-party hosts to make things fair. Not really sure how well it'll go but I'd be willing to try.
This and the fact that my position here has been sealed here for a few years now.
Quote from: frezal on August 12, 2016, 08:06:36 PMQuote from: Geice on August 12, 2016, 06:28:45 PMOne thing people should take note of is that the average age of the fourm is probably a lot older than it used to be in 2008-11. A lot of regulars here are in their late teens or somewhere in there 20s and have more important irl stuff to deal with like work/school. Yeah, when I joined the community, I was around 12 or 13. Now I am in my late twenties. Yick! Just as I am moving ever further away from my youth, RA2, too, is forever aging. It isn't a hot new game. Kids don't see it on the shelf at Target and think, "Cool, that's like Battlebots!" Hell, kids don't even buy PC games from Target anymore. They go on Steam. If they stumble upon Robot Arena on there, they will instead find the disappointment that is RA3.RA3, in many ways, both built and cursed this community. It was always a hypothetical; a representation of our hope. When the game launched, hope was tarnished. Even with the resurgence of Battlebots and Robot Wars, we will never get the RA3 we wished for. We are no longer anticipating or wishing for anything.Without a change of focus, we'll simply be a forum dedicated to a thirteen-year-old budget title, and numbers will continue to decrease.In a perfect world, RA3: DSL would come in after RA3's hype. But we don't have that hope anymore, it's not even hypothetical at this point.Who has the gumption to mod it? I know I've said this before. For one reason or another (and I don't mean to sound dismissive in that sense) we no longer have the DSL dream team that wrought the original DSL from iron. Sure, we still got Click, but Click put his hail mary's into DSL2.2. It's time for Click to rest- I don't mean it like "alright you're dead click get the hell out already", but I know before releasing 2.2 he definitely made a post like "I'm putting all I have left into DSL".Who else, then? 123 dropped the mic, dabbed and backflipped off stage with Ironforge. I don't think the RA2RW team is interested in doing a TC in the same manner. Joeblo is too backed up to lash out at the aftershock of RA3, and I don't know what Naryar or AS plans to do.That's all of the people who've done large-scale mods/retools in the last like 4 years as far as I know. Unless someone with hunger in their eyes and a fire in their heart steps up, the last of the hype trains have left, and it left like a bad orgasm with a 4/10 hooker who doesn't know a wang from a toilet brush.
You got my vote for RA2 Wizard. Always and forever.
The DSL Reborn AI for me was one of the last things I just had fun doing. The competitive scene for RA2 is just not interesting to me anymore. I might be able to crank out new bot for a tournament (or just to make something I know will be trash just for the sake of making a bot for funsies), but because you need to have wedges to make anything good anymore. When the wedge is trash, then all that effort in making an interesting robot is pretty much gone and it drains me. The last time I actually had fun building something for a tournament was my Tricycle Takedown entry since I didn't really take it seriously but it was still fun to watch it fight.I hate to say it myself, but I think I might be retiring from RA2 if there is nothing left that I am really looking forward to most likely by the end of the year (assuming GTM lasts that long).
A lot of people who originally watched Robot Wars are adults now, so are a lot that played this game.As an adult you sadly don't have that much time anymore, but more and more have started to still play videogames. We're (hopefully) no longer in a age where people say "you're playing videogames? That's for kids" and having a adult fanbase can be a good thing as stuff can be discussed without situations like "mods, that guy made a better bot than mine, ban him", you know, we can actually act like adults and I wouldn't mind having this forum be like that.
Of course, new games allow for new things and refresh the fanbase that way, RA2 however still allows for a lot and I think all this meta stuff is part of the reason why it got killed off. Since we're adults now we know if a bot is fair or not, and I'd love seeing a tournament where people try to focus to make all kinds of different designs of bots, with them being in the same effectiveness category.
if retooled get's finished let's do the tourney in that mod like a week after release. There would be no meta and it would be exciting. Have multiple hosts to speed up production, dedicated AI team to get through that phase quickly, and perhaps even commentary. Putting a tournament on one person's shoulders has been the norm but really it doesn't make sense
Then it's basically who gets the best working bot first, and I feel like spinners and wedges will still be the best working thing anyways.