Avalanche may return (lol no)

[yugitom]

Age has nothing to do with it. As Somebody said, Ava only caused a fuss on FB a week ago, although I'm just taking his word on that. The way you put it makes it seem like change is an inevitability as he gets older but it actually comes from meaningful reflection and being honest with yourself and others, which Ava clearly hasn't done, opting for the 'forced smile' approach, instead.

while I believe he could/should have a final chance

I don't know how else to impress on you (and other newboys) that he has had loads of 'final' chances. Not just in this community, either. I don't think there's a single robot combat community out there that he hasn't been banned from at least once, dare I say twice.

[Meganerdbomb]

why are we debating this exactly? he got permabanned. he is banned permanently. shouldn't have banned him permanently in the first place if it's not permanent.

exactly,  he didn't warrant permanent ban in the first place imo

[Enigm@]

i'll just say that i think it's pretty cute that certain users think lra2 should still be banned when staff has had talks on banning these (((certain))) users for the same things lra2 does

but ill leave that there gamers 

also on how people feel about him coming back undermining staff authority - wouldn't allowing him back on discord also undermine staff authority, if not more than him being allowed to enter into a tournament  and frankly, he acts a lot better than a lot of users do on there (although that might just be because he knows he's on thin ice but i digress)

also if i do recall, matt never outright said lra2 was "permabanned" iirc in the old discord he said he was banned indefinitely, so this autism over what permabanned means can stop

[Meganerdbomb]

Woke idea: dont unban Avalanche, but unban Life Robot Arena 2.

[TheRoboteer]

also if i do recall, matt never outright said lra2 was "permabanned" iirc in the old discord he said he was banned indefinitely, so this autism over what permabanned means can stop

Just saying

 

[Badger]

Woke idea: dont unban Avalanche, but unban Life Robot Arena 2.

How can one man be so right in so many ways on a single issue

[Reier]

also if i do recall, matt never outright said lra2 was "permabanned" iirc in the old discord he said he was banned indefinitely, so this autism over what permabanned means can stop

Just saying

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also this is the second time he was permabanned (lra2 account was as well) so he's like ∞ x ∞ now in case just ∞ wasn't enough

[Mouldy]

Age has nothing to do with it.

I disagree entirely. People mature with age. Some take longer than others, mind you.

[Ra2Winner999]

Woke idea: dont unban Avalanche, but unban Life Robot Arena 2.

How can one man be so right in so many ways on a single issue

I know!

[pokebro14]

I'm not going to take sides as I haven't had a problem with him yet I have still heard the many chances he has had. The only supporting evidence to say he shouldn't be back seems to be that he is being nice on discord which is really not enough. I dont really care what happens with him all know is that my opinion and other more younger members should leave it too the big boys to deal with this.

[Merrick]

Another way to look at it.

Has Avalanche been missed on these forums? I’m gonna guess no.

Would his return add anything of use to these forums? Also gonna go out on a limb and say no.

[Enigm@]

Another way to look at it.

Has Avalanche been missed on these forums? I’m gonna guess no.

Would his return add anything of use to these forums? Also gonna go out on a limb and say no.

i have missed him dearly in his absence

also lra2 was unironically one of the most active users on the site before he got baned, take that as you will.

[Meganerdbomb]

Another way to look at it.

Has Avalanche been missed on these forums? I’m gonna guess no.

Would his return add anything of use to these forums? Also gonna go out on a limb and say no.

Activity on the forums dropped sharply shortly after he was banned, if that means anything. I personally think GTM cant survive without a little bit of drama.

[freeziez]

avalanche is the only thing keeping gtm alive #freealavanch

[FightingBotInformal]

GTM is not GTM without Avalanche/LRA2. It just isn’t.

[pokebro14]

GTM is not GTM without Avalanche/LRA2. It just isn’t.

I swear you weren't around when he was here

[FightingBotInformal]

GTM is not GTM without Avalanche/LRA2. It just isn’t.

I swear you weren't around when he was here

I was when he caused the Banter Wars topic to be temporarily locked.
Also when he went all out ballistic (nearly all the time) on the old GTM discord.

[yugitom]

Age has nothing to do with it.

I disagree entirely. People mature with age. Some take longer than others, mind you.

I agree that people mature with age but Avalanche should have already reached the point in which his age catches up with his behaviour. That's what I meant by age having nothing to do with it, at this point.

[Olister92]

Maybe change the term 'permaban' to 'indefinite ban'?

I know this isn't massively helpful on the topic but I wasn't around when Avalanche and have had no contact with the guy sp I'm not gunna comment on whether or not he should return.

Just a bit of food for thought

[kill343gs]

also if i do recall, matt never outright said lra2 was "permabanned" iirc in the old discord he said he was banned indefinitely, so this autism over what permabanned means can stop

Just saying

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Hi, my name is Matt and my username is not 090901.

I appreciate all the thoughtful (and not so thoughtful) input on the matter. This is something I plan on mulling over long term. In the meantime, let me make something perfectly clear.

The community, somewhere along the lines, coined the phrase permaban. Not me. And yes, LRA2 was "Permanently banned" years before I was an admin. The decision to unban him and let him rejoin as Avalanche a while after was not made by me, and if you will recall through some fairly recent posts I've made, I let it be known that allowing previously banned, stigmatized users to rejoin under a new username was not something I would be tolerating going forward, because it's a shady practice and I have no interest in hiding our intentions from you guys. I have no intention of calling anything I do here permanent, long term bans included.

We allowed him back into our discord under supervision, as we saw him mingling well with others elsewhere recently. It's not totally out of the question that he's done a little growing up. Maybe. We don't know for sure. I know some of you lot have tried to antagonize the sh** out of him, and for the most part it hasn't worked. Shame on you for testing him. That's our job, not yours.