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A New BOTM - Trial Run
« on: May 01, 2018, 06:46:36 AM »
I don't know if this has been implemented (and if it has, mods, message me and I'll delete this), but in the GTM Feedback thread, I suggested this-

BOTM's stupid, and everybody views it as a joke-thing. Perhaps, instead of being it's own separate, gated off thing, it should *sharp inhale* automatically have everyone's bots from their showcases entered in the shuffle, and then everyone votes from there? I know, I know, that'll be a massive admin headache, especially when people don't give their bots names, but other than removing it outright, that's the only way I see to make BOTM worth anything any more.

And that's exactly what I'm gonna do. Starting today, any newly showcased bots' splashes are gonna be saved and logged. Then, 3 days before the end of the month, I'm gonna compile them all into one thread, and y'all get to vote on which one you like most. This is just a trial run, so I expect there to be some hiccups.

If you want to give any feedback on this, or do NOT want your bots included, lemme know below. Keep in mind this isn't a mod thing, this is all being done by hand, so don't expect it to be optimised or even clean, just a trial run to see if/how the idea works.

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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2018, 07:32:42 AM »
I'm insulted that you think my BOTM is stupid.  :TLT
im just waiting for meganerdbomb to come along and kick things into gear.

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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2018, 07:36:45 AM »
This is actually a great idea!

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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2018, 07:43:49 AM »
While I do think the new idea was good when proposed by whoever did originally, I guess **** me for trying to take BOTM seriously these last 7-8 months. I thought it was worth my time to try and make something unique for each suggestion, even if I can't say every suggestion was followed to the letter.

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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2018, 07:50:02 AM »
Starting today, any newly showcased bots' splashes are gonna be saved and logged.
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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2018, 01:16:28 PM »
I'm insulted that you think my BOTM is stupid.  :TLT

Hey, this is just a trial run thing. If this crashes and burns, we'll go back to your system, okay? No harm done.

While I do think the new idea was good when proposed by whoever did originally, I guess **** me for trying to take BOTM seriously these last 7-8 months. I thought it was worth my time to try and make something unique for each suggestion, even if I can't say every suggestion was followed to the letter.

Same as above, really.

Starting today, any newly showcased bots' splashes are gonna be saved and logged.
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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2018, 01:42:48 PM »
I'm assuming best bot per person?

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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2018, 02:44:33 PM »
I'm assuming best bot per person?


All bots showcased will be auto-entered with no per-person limit, unless the person who owns the showcase specifies otherwise.


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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2018, 05:20:24 PM »
What if we gave this another name and left BOTM alone.

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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2018, 05:35:25 PM »
What if we gave this another name and left BOTM alone.

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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2018, 05:38:47 PM »
yeah perfect!

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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2018, 06:42:02 PM »
Thank you for suggesting this and coming up with new ideas and trying to make the system currently in place better, I cannot thank you enough.

Firstly, whilst I understand that ideally you want to have it automated, the time and effort taken to compile all the bots that have been posted over the month must be highly difficult to maintain and keep track of. I think it would be difficult to do such a task consistantly.

Secondly, realistically putting all said bots into one thread and getting people to choose just one is certainly a difficult task to achieve, I imagine it could be rather intimidating to a voter to choose outta X amount of robots.

we don't believe BOTM needs to clear out all together, we just feel that we could vastly improve it to make it more encouraging and more accessable to players that would like to enter.
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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2018, 09:17:40 PM »
if you want to make it more accessible stop giving it dumb meme themes like "the fall of byzantium" or whatever it was this month

simple mod/weightclass/bot type (optional)

maybe do a tutorial on how to make a good botm splash, because ive seen a lot of great bots over the past few months that i had to pass over because their splashes looked like ass

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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2018, 10:42:59 AM »
Secondly, realistically putting all said bots into one thread and getting people to choose just one is certainly a difficult task to achieve, I imagine it could be rather intimidating to a voter to choose outta X amount of robots.

Yeah, we're only 3 days into this, and I already have 19 splashes saved. For now, I'm splitting it based on game (Stock/DSL-S/DSL-IRL/Ironforge/Other), but I might make more separations depending on how many I compile by the end of it.


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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2018, 01:33:55 PM »
For now, I'm splitting it based on game (Stock/DSL-S/DSL-IRL/Ironforge/Other)
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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2018, 06:26:44 PM »
For now, I'm splitting it based on game (Stock/DSL-S/DSL-IRL/Ironforge/Other)
Multiple hosts myb?

Enhh, it'd have to people I know I can trust. Maybe hosting past BOTM's, or having a good standing in the community would be the deciding factor.

Gee, wouldn't re-implementing the ratings system so everyone can vote per hour make that "good standing in the community" part a lot easier?  :really_makes_you_think:

Anyway, 5 days into this, and I think the amount of entrants into each category speaks volumes about where the RA2 meta is at right now. Ironforge at 0, DSL-S at 6, DSL-IRL at 8, and Stock at 11. DSL-IRL has the largest variety of builders, however, despite not being as voluminous. I'll chalk that up to geese pretty much carrying RA2 Stock on his back, with 8 bots showcased.


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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2018, 02:20:42 AM »
does anyone other than fotepx actually care about this

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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2018, 02:57:50 AM »
does anyone other than fotepx actually care about this
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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2018, 06:44:33 AM »
does anyone other than fotepx actually care about this

I'm trying to work on changes, trying to make things better. If you have any better ideas, post 'em. Besides, for the fourth or so time, this is just a trial run - if the results come back after this month that nobody cares, I'll just let regular BOTM run it's course. I don't particularly care myself, it's just a test.


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Re: A New BOTM - Trial Run
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2018, 01:06:26 PM »
Good to see that your trying to make this more interesting cant wait to see how this goes :)
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