Robot Rumble 2.0 - Robot Combat Simulator - Under Development

[kix]

Honestly for an axe, the stronget the armour the longer the bot lasts. I think a perfect example where a bot was axed to death was between THZ and Spawn Again where the bot just slowly died.

how does the visual deformation look like rn btw?

Wouldn't this be from that Mesh Deform script we currently have in the back log of the game?? Albeit I haven't played around with this feature yet for new arena props but I'm still sceptical on how they would work for them hahaha

Ah yes, mesh deform, dark ages we live in XD

[CodeSilver23]

I’m thinking more of visual deformation, while keeping the mesh the same. If there is a dent in the wedge, the game only has it there visually, while the wedges mesh will remain the same. Also, maybe have hinges bend and become stiff when it gets hit.

[cjbruce]

Visual deformation looks terrible right now.  It would take a lot of work to make it subtle and probably only mediocre looking.  Not worth the time, IMO.

An LED system could work.  Maybe that is enough?  I’m not so keen on a “self healing” mechanic.  It just seems like this is so gamey and not at all representative of the real world.  I think I would be a lot more okay with hits putting a robot off balance though.

After all - Power LEDs are required in real life robots, so might as well use this to our advantage.

And if not self restoring I like the idea of slowing down an opponent. That could also play into our previously mentioned idea about instead of just eliminating a robot on instant knockout, doing a 10 second count down. In real life competitions once a robot has been immobilised they still count it down rather than just going 'Oh your bot aint moving it's out'. Then players can dance around the arena for a bit, ect. lol. Maybe with this in mind we could make robot's less responsive as well as gradually slowing down? Twitching motors, one drive motor slower than the others, ect. ect.

There is some precendent for slowing down an opponent.  Wheel guards are notorious for this when they get bashed in.  Wheels get stuck or they move really slowly.

I like it.

[cjbruce]

Also, we had a lot of electrical problems where wheels would become intermittent.  They would work sometimes, but then stop working or stutter for a few seconds, then work again.

[WhamettNuht]

Visual deformation looks terrible right now.  It would take a lot of work to make it subtle and probably only mediocre looking.  Not worth the time, IMO.

An LED system could work.  Maybe that is enough?  I’m not so keen on a “self healing” mechanic.  It just seems like this is so gamey and not at all representative of the real world.  I think I would be a lot more okay with hits putting a robot off balance though.

After all - Power LEDs are required in real life robots, so might as well use this to our advantage.

And if not self restoring I like the idea of slowing down an opponent. That could also play into our previously mentioned idea about instead of just eliminating a robot on instant knockout, doing a 10 second count down. In real life competitions once a robot has been immobilised they still count it down rather than just going 'Oh your bot aint moving it's out'. Then players can dance around the arena for a bit, ect. lol. Maybe with this in mind we could make robot's less responsive as well as gradually slowing down? Twitching motors, one drive motor slower than the others, ect. ect.

There is some precendent for slowing down an opponent.  Wheel guards are notorious for this when they get bashed in.  Wheels get stuck or they move really slowly.

I like it.

Thanks, haha. I would also say about some sort of particle effect coming from damaged motors but in reality I'm fairly sure they don't do this - all the smoke, ect, that comes from damaged components comes from things like the batteries. Another thing to consider?

[cjbruce]

Ooo...  How about spinners get wobbly once they lose half their health?  It would throw off the driving of the robot, and it might be worth it to just spin up if you really needed to.

[cjbruce]

Thanks, haha. I would also say about some sort of particle effect coming from damaged motors but in reality I'm fairly sure they don't do this - all the smoke, ect, that comes from damaged components comes from things like the batteries. Another thing to consider?

Yes to particle effects!!!

I don't care if it isn't strictly realistic.  More player feedback = better.

EDIT: Particle effect for anything with electricity flowing through it.  Batteries should smoke like crazy.  When a piece of electronics goes bad it should give off a puff of smoke, then spark.  Motors should do this too if they get hit.  Lots of smoke, then sparks.

[WhamettNuht]

Ooo...  How about spinners get wobbly once they lose half their health?  It would throw off the driving of the robot, and it might be worth it to just spin up if you really needed to.

How do you mean? Like they vibrate on the axle rather than detach??

Thanks, haha. I would also say about some sort of particle effect coming from damaged motors but in reality I'm fairly sure they don't do this - all the smoke, ect, that comes from damaged components comes from things like the batteries. Another thing to consider?

Yes to particle effects!!!

I don't care if it isn't strictly realistic.  More player feedback = better.

Agreed - more particles! Hahaha. We previously spoke about new particle damage effects for armour types, ect., so might aswell! (Could always have some sparks emit from damaged motors, smoke from batteries, small vents of gas from damaged pneumatics, ect.?)

[kix]

Ooo...  How about spinners get wobbly once they lose half their health?  It would throw off the driving of the robot, and it might be worth it to just spin up if you really needed to.

How do you mean? Like they vibrate on the axle rather than detach??

I assume like in ra2 when a bot loses its tooth

[WhamettNuht]

Ooo...  How about spinners get wobbly once they lose half their health?  It would throw off the driving of the robot, and it might be worth it to just spin up if you really needed to.

How do you mean? Like they vibrate on the axle rather than detach??

I assume like in ra2 when a bot loses its tooth

As an example, maybe like that fight when Tombstone's blade snapped? (I think it was against Witch Doctor? Can't remember 100% though). But I like that idea, as long as the AI are then made aware of it. It annoyed me to no end how in RA2 once a spinner was damaged they'd just wobble for the rest of the fight. Maybe once a spinner registers it's blade has broken and they are wobbling, only fire their weapon once the opponent is a certain distance? They won't get much spin up, but they can still score some hits (which is personally what I end up doing in this situation).

[cjbruce]

Ooo...  How about spinners get wobbly once they lose half their health?  It would throw off the driving of the robot, and it might be worth it to just spin up if you really needed to.

How do you mean? Like they vibrate on the axle rather than detach??

Rotate all of the components 5 degrees off axis, and shift the COM by 1 centimeter for a heavyweight (less for beetleweights).  This should give a really annoying wobble.

[WhamettNuht]

Ooo...  How about spinners get wobbly once they lose half their health?  It would throw off the driving of the robot, and it might be worth it to just spin up if you really needed to.

How do you mean? Like they vibrate on the axle rather than detach??

Rotate all of the components 5 degrees off axis, and shift the COM by 1 centimeter for a heavyweight (less for beetleweights).  This should give a really annoying wobble.

Oh!!! So not enough to throw the robot around but just enough to vibrate it? Throw the driving off, ect.? I like it.

[cjbruce]

Ooo...  How about spinners get wobbly once they lose half their health?  It would throw off the driving of the robot, and it might be worth it to just spin up if you really needed to.

How do you mean? Like they vibrate on the axle rather than detach??

Rotate all of the components 5 degrees off axis, and shift the COM by 1 centimeter for a heavyweight (less for beetleweights).  This should give a really annoying wobble.

Oh!!! So not enough to throw the robot around but just enough to vibrate it? Throw the driving off, ect.? I like it.

Exactly.  The bent spinners I looked at on Saturday were a maximum of 5 mm off center.  I think 10 mm would be a little more obvious for the purposes of the game.

[WhamettNuht]

Whether the script can calculate the amount of throw-off by the size of the bounding box of the spinner?

[cjbruce]

Whether the script can calculate the amount of throw-off by the size of the bounding box of the spinner?

Yup.  I have the radius of the spinner already.  Just do maybe 5% of the radius.

[kix]

Ok off this topic: I have a possible idea:
Burst pistons that you have could be resizable. Smaller the piston is, less co2/hydraulics/nitrogen can enter the piston, thus less pressure and less powerful flippers. Maybe split between vertical scaling and horizontal scaling? So we can make short but wide bursts, or tall and slim ones

[cjbruce]

Ok off this topic: I have a possible idea:
Burst pistons that you have could be resizable. Smaller the piston is, less co2/hydraulics/nitrogen can enter the piston, thus less pressure and less powerful flippers. Maybe split between vertical scaling and horizontal scaling? So we can make short but wide bursts, or tall and slim ones

Pneumatics are on the list.  We need to get electrical distribution systems working first though.

[cjbruce]

Spinner wobble is working now.  As the spinner gets more and more damaged, it wobbles more and more.  This makes driving more difficult.

Also, @tashic found and fixed the bug with the A40-300 (New) motor.  Go tashic!

New build coming soon...

[kix]

Spinner wobble is working now.  As the spinner gets more and more damaged, it wobbles more and more.  This makes driving more difficult.

Also, @tashic found and fixed the bug with the A40-300 (New) motor.  Go tashic!

New build coming soon...

Love to hear that, might use this latest version for robogames if the damage isnt busted :)


A question for future release? Are we gonna get more compact batteries? Atm most batts are oversized

[WhamettNuht]

Spinner wobble is working now.  As the spinner gets more and more damaged, it wobbles more and more.  This makes driving more difficult.

Also, @tashic found and fixed the bug with the A40-300 (New) motor.  Go tashic!

New build coming soon...

Love to hear that, might use this latest version for robogames if the damage isnt busted :)


A question for future release? Are we gonna get more compact batteries? Atm most batts are oversized

It’s on my list :P