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Off-Topic => Real Robotics => Real Robotics Discussion => Topic started by: SKBT on August 26, 2012, 06:49:19 PM

Title: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: SKBT on August 26, 2012, 06:49:19 PM
We've had a lot of good general robotics and robot combat discussion in the General Chatter thread but that always seems to die out and get sidetracked or lost in all the other random stuff that goes on in that thread. So I have created a General Chatter thread for robotics/robot stuff.


Also have a link about Complete Control...

http://www.coroflot.com/derek_young/Battlebots-1998-2003 (http://www.coroflot.com/derek_young/Battlebots-1998-2003)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on August 26, 2012, 07:01:03 PM
The inside shot of pressure drop was nice, and I don't recall seeing the version of Complete Control seen in the design product news magazine.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on August 30, 2012, 03:51:09 PM
I haven't posted this anywhere to my knowledge, but I think it deserves recognition:

http://web.archive.org/web/20020614094808/http://bobrobot.tripod.com/prelims-day2-evening.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20020614094808/http://bobrobot.tripod.com/prelims-day2-evening.html)

Sadly the rest of the site wasn't archived, just this and the front page. So I lost literally tons of great fights. Still, the 30-odd ones that are here are a great resource.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on September 05, 2012, 03:42:22 PM
For those of you who might be interested, this robotics platform is a rebuild of the RW competitor "LeighViathan"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fa5kyoal24&feature=plcp#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fa5kyoal24&feature=plcp#ws)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on September 09, 2012, 12:55:18 PM
Current state of the old Vlad
http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723078 (http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723078)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on September 09, 2012, 12:58:16 PM
Seen that, great for Team Tiki to revive the old thing.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Phoenyx on September 09, 2012, 09:07:58 PM
Current state of the old Vlad
http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723078 (http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723078)

When I watched Vlad the Impaler vs Mechavore, I kinda shed a tear. Seeing Vlad getting torn to shreds like that was heartbreaking in a way. I know that Mechavore is a destructive machine, but that's just a little overkill, especially since Vlad was in no state to fight after that match and was mothballed in favor of Vladiator and Vlad 2.

I'm glad someone is putting time into restoring such an iconic robot. Maybe we'll see an upgraded version of the original Vlad back in the arena and ready to fight again and continue its legacy.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on September 09, 2012, 09:14:17 PM
The upgraded version already exists...and it's called Vlad II :V
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on September 09, 2012, 09:19:42 PM
Current state of the old Vlad
http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723078 (http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723078)

When I watched Vlad the Impaler vs Mechavore, I kinda shed a tear. Seeing Vlad getting torn to shreds like that was heartbreaking in a way. I know that Mechavore is a destructive machine, but that's just a little overkill, especially since Vlad was in no state to fight after that match and was mothballed in favor of Vladiator and Vlad 2.

I'm glad someone is putting time into restoring such an iconic robot. Maybe we'll see an upgraded version of the original Vlad back in the arena and ready to fight again and continue its legacy.


To be fair Vlad was still alive at the end, and Gage probably could have rebuilt it if he wanted too.  Besides, the final score was 24-21, if Mechavore had been merciful, it probably would have lost.


Here's a guy uploading more RW fights without commentary, apparently the RW DVD's have that feature.  So jelly of everyone that owns a PAL version DVD player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVNpAUfd10Q&feature=plcp# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVNpAUfd10Q&feature=plcp#)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on September 09, 2012, 10:18:55 PM
I radd somewhere(IIRC the original BB magazine) Gage was kinda relieved when Vlad got destroyed.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on September 10, 2012, 11:23:54 AM
That makes sense, I bet it gave him the push he needed to make major improvements to his bot.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Velocity EVO on September 10, 2012, 02:00:34 PM
Current state of the old Vlad
http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723078 (http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723078)

When I watched Vlad the Impaler vs Mechavore, I kinda shed a tear. Seeing Vlad getting torn to shreds like that was heartbreaking in a way. I know that Mechavore is a destructive machine, but that's just a little overkill, especially since Vlad was in no state to fight after that match and was mothballed in favor of Vladiator and Vlad 2.

I'm glad someone is putting time into restoring such an iconic robot. Maybe we'll see an upgraded version of the original Vlad back in the arena and ready to fight again and continue its legacy.

I agree it was sad to see it go that way. But what a way to go though, it fought greatly against Mechavore. If I remember the score at the end was 24-21, Though I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on September 10, 2012, 07:44:51 PM
24-21 is correct.  And I agree, if that's not a hero's burial I don't know what is - not just surviving that kind of punishment but very nearly winning.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenFox93 on September 10, 2012, 08:04:37 PM
When I watched Vlad the Impaler vs Mechavore, I kinda shed a tear. Seeing Vlad getting torn to shreds like that was heartbreaking in a way. I know that Mechavore is a destructive machine, but that's just a little overkill, especially since Vlad was in no state to fight after that match and was mothballed in favor of Vladiator and Vlad 2.
Yeah. I'll be honest with you, I felt the same way with Chaos 2 in its last fight with Razer and 13 Black.
 
 
But yeah. I'm happy to hear that Vlad's being restored- it's one of the most iconic machines in the history of the sport, and it'll be great to see it running again.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on September 10, 2012, 08:07:48 PM
Ehh that was three years ago, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they decided to retire it because of how historical it is...maybe we will see it in a museum one day.

also dis http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamtiki/5350244507/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamtiki/5350244507/#)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on September 11, 2012, 09:02:34 PM
Does anyone know if there is any footage of Bill Dwyer's robot Evil Cheese Wedge?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on September 11, 2012, 09:39:43 PM
Does anyone know if there is any footage of Bill Dwyer's robot Evil Cheese Wedge?

I have a picture of it if that helps...
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Natef on September 11, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
I have the video where he asks for name suggestions on VHS...
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on September 11, 2012, 09:45:05 PM
Does anyone know if there is any footage of Bill Dwyer's robot Evil Cheese Wedge?

I have a picture of it if that helps...

I saw that, where did you get it from?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on September 11, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
The before or after pic?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: freeziez on September 11, 2012, 11:20:57 PM
Does anyone know if there is any footage of Bill Dwyer's robot Evil Cheese Wedge?

I have it on VHS, bitches.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on September 11, 2012, 11:26:35 PM
Youtube please?

Also I dunno if anyone noticed but the 2.0 SHW rumble is back up on youtube

And I uploaded the rest of the behind the scenes videos, check them out.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on September 11, 2012, 11:26:59 PM
Does anyone know if there is any footage of Bill Dwyer's robot Evil Cheese Wedge?

I have it on VHS, bitches.

dude you gotta put it on youtube


you gotta do dat man


youtube
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on September 13, 2012, 08:01:57 PM
Le Macheme's website

 http://web.archive.org/web/19990210113305/http://www.impactmg.com/Robotwars2.html (http://web.archive.org/web/19990210113305/http://www.impactmg.com/Robotwars2.html)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on September 22, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
this guy has some stuffs
http://www.flickr.com/photos/73408864@N00/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/73408864@N00/)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on November 04, 2012, 10:51:38 AM
Remember when we were discussing how there were no US front-hinged flippers?

I forgot about this guy:
http://battlebots.wikia.com/wiki/Strange_Brew (http://battlebots.wikia.com/wiki/Strange_Brew)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on November 04, 2012, 11:54:00 AM
Quote
Strange Brew was originally going to be named Ground Zero, but after the 9/11 terrorist attacks it was decided that the name was no longer appropriate

and yet, but a month after 9/11 we got:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJOxnWOwf7A# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJOxnWOwf7A#)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on November 04, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b4ZZQkcNEo&NR=1&feature=endscreen#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b4ZZQkcNEo&NR=1&feature=endscreen#ws)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: SKBT on November 20, 2012, 08:00:23 PM
Looks like robot combat is taking a new direction.

 http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/20/robot-combat-league/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/20/robot-combat-league/)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on November 20, 2012, 08:03:27 PM
Looks like robot combat is taking a new direction.

 http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/20/robot-combat-league/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/20/robot-combat-league/)

I'll give it two seasons if they're lucky.

I don't see why everybody is so obsessed with the concept of massive humanoid robots fighting each other. Vehicular type combat has always been more exciting, at least in my opinion.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on November 20, 2012, 08:16:51 PM
<bleep>ing Real Steel, they're like the AIDS virus of Robot Combat. What is wrong with people?  So this is a show with two humanoids with absolutely no design freedom doing the exact same things that humans do?  A decade ago we had shows where 100 kg anything's, built by common men with scrounged pocket change, did whatever it took to kill the other bot, and didn't have to abide by rules of decency or clean fighting.  Somehow I feel like we've gone backwards.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on November 20, 2012, 08:27:16 PM
<bleep>ing Real Steel, they're like the AIDS virus of Robot Combat. What is wrong with people?  So this is a show with two humanoids with absolutely no design freedom doing the exact same things that humans do?  A decade ago we had shows where 100 kg anything's, built by common men with scrounged pocket change, did whatever it took to kill the other bot, and didn't have to abide by rules of decency or clean fighting.  Somehow I feel like we've gone backwards.

It is going backwards. A competition between two humanoids standing in place and punching each other kills all chances for ingenuity and creativity and design. That's what was so unique about robot combat when it went mainstream at the turn of the decade, the fact that everything was all remotely vehicular allowed for a lot of design freedom and inventiveness, when it came down to creating your robots weapon systems and what not. You don't have any of that freedom when working with a humanoid design, because everything is already there for you. The builders don't have to design a cool flipping arm or a unique axe type weapon or whatever, because the human body design already has the parts that do the same thing.

I didn't even watch Real Steal. It looked like Gundams 2 electric boogaloo.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on November 20, 2012, 08:47:41 PM
http://m.facebook.com/groups/213041945419980# (http://m.facebook.com/groups/213041945419980#)!/photo.php?fbid=4851448128423&id=1363594238&set=o.213041945419980&relevant_count=1&__user=1466843370

Pack Raptors are back!
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on November 20, 2012, 09:10:07 PM
http://m.facebook.com/groups/213041945419980# (http://m.facebook.com/groups/213041945419980#)!/photo.php?fbid=4851448128423&id=1363594238&set=o.213041945419980&relevant_count=1&__user=1466843370

Pack Raptors are back!

Nice mobile link brah
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50875packadymacdaddyraptors.jpg)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MassimoV on November 20, 2012, 10:18:23 PM
I'm with you. And it's cheaper than 2 ton 8 foot machines.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on November 20, 2012, 10:24:04 PM
I don't think it's even open for the public.  It won't last more than one season; how long do you think people will watch a 20 million dollar version of Rock'em Sock'em robots? 


A prank that I'd love to see is if someone snuck backstage and programmed the robots to kick each other in the crotch.


Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Sylandro on November 21, 2012, 06:28:05 AM
Looks like robot combat is taking a new direction.

 http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/20/robot-combat-league/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/20/robot-combat-league/)

I'll give it two seasons if they're lucky.

I don't see why everybody is so obsessed with the concept of massive humanoid robots fighting each other. Vehicular type combat has always been more exciting, at least in my opinion.
I agree with you.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Probably Rob on November 21, 2012, 06:43:44 AM
Two people have expressed interest on the other forum I'm on - and one of them is a fellow admin, so [swear] 'im. Luckily, I just copypaste Sonny's comment to teach 'em a lesson.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on November 21, 2012, 02:25:38 PM
There are boxing robots at Robots Live and the crowd do seem to like them... but only once a year

They're a novelty first time around. After that they are pretty boring (general roboteer consensus)

Hell, they don't even need massive metal poles holding them up.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Sylandro on November 24, 2012, 10:26:20 AM
http://m.facebook.com/groups/213041945419980# (http://m.facebook.com/groups/213041945419980#)!/photo.php?fbid=4851448128423&id=1363594238&set=o.213041945419980&relevant_count=1&__user=1466843370

Pack Raptors are back!

Nice mobile link brah
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50875packadymacdaddyraptors.jpg)
To Do: Enter Pack Raptors for the next Season of DooMsday
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: R1885 on December 09, 2012, 12:42:25 AM
Anyone have any good images of a shuffle bot walking mechanism?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MassimoV on December 09, 2012, 04:20:07 PM
Has anyone here actually been to RoboGames?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Tweedy on December 09, 2012, 04:24:15 PM
I plan on either going next year or the year after if I can book a weeks leave for that time. If I do I'll probably take an antweight or two.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MassimoV on December 09, 2012, 04:33:08 PM
Take pics of all the robots while you're there.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Natef on December 09, 2012, 05:21:23 PM
Didn't Mike go one year?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: SKBT on December 09, 2012, 05:30:32 PM
Has anyone here actually been to RoboGames?

nope... wrong side of the country for me and they don't run 30's anymore...

i'd go if i could afford it.

Didn't Mike go one year?

looks like he competed in 06.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Sylandro on December 09, 2012, 06:21:09 PM
I've seen Battlebots before, live. I was like 3 or 4 at the time.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MassimoV on December 09, 2012, 06:26:08 PM
Didn't Mike go one year?

looks like he competed in 06.
How'd you find that out?

I've seen Battlebots before, live. I was like 3 or 4 at the time.
You remember who you saw fight?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Sylandro on December 09, 2012, 06:31:39 PM
Didn't Mike go one year?

looks like he competed in 06.
How'd you find that out?

I've seen Battlebots before, live. I was like 3 or 4 at the time.
You remember who you saw fight?
I remember seeing Buddy Lee Don't Play In The Street and Mouser Mecha Catbot.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: R1885 on December 09, 2012, 06:37:29 PM
Didn't Mike go one year?

looks like he competed in 06.
How'd you find that out?


http://www.buildersdb.com/botdetails.asp?botid=589 (http://www.buildersdb.com/botdetails.asp?botid=589)
There you go.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Natef on December 09, 2012, 06:49:17 PM
Didn't Mike go one year?

looks like he competed in 06.
How'd you find that out?


http://www.buildersdb.com/botdetails.asp?botid=589 (http://www.buildersdb.com/botdetails.asp?botid=589)
There you go.

I saw Ruiner in a group shot in an issue of "Robot" magazine.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Thyrus on December 10, 2012, 08:57:01 AM
I`m just reading on the German Roboteers Asscosiation that Tsunami will be back next year. Don`t know if they are going to the UK but they`ll fight in germany again I guess.


I also read that the original Black Hole doesn`t exist anymore. It has beed salvaged right after the european championship and black hole 2 was build. Black hole 2 was renamed to Luzifer and Luzifer has gotten an upgrade to look and work like Sewer Snake

Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on December 10, 2012, 10:16:10 AM
Sweet, Tsunami's coming back.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on February 20, 2013, 11:29:04 PM
http://www.myspace.com/video/detmach/mechadon/1791129 (http://www.myspace.com/video/detmach/mechadon/1791129)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Natef on February 21, 2013, 01:52:58 PM
I heard that Mechadon walked down the aisle at its builder's wedding to present the ring.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamin on February 21, 2013, 02:36:35 PM
not the builders
http://www.suicidebots.com/2008/08/01/robots-make-your-dreams-come-true/ (http://www.suicidebots.com/2008/08/01/robots-make-your-dreams-come-true/)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Kossokei on February 21, 2013, 02:56:27 PM
I sometimes think Setrakian will accidently invent the Metal Gear.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on February 24, 2013, 06:31:44 PM
Apparently Ceros is coming back for 2013

http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ceros (http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ceros)

This makes me happy, because I like Ceros
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MassimoV on February 24, 2013, 06:45:56 PM
Ceros was so cool.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: SKBT on June 01, 2013, 12:59:29 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600780_4644945649553_756057671_n.jpg)


this bot looks strangely RA2ish
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Kossokei on June 01, 2013, 01:04:11 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600780_4644945649553_756057671_n.jpg)


this bot looks strangely RA2ish
sup Aquarius
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on June 01, 2013, 01:09:02 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600780_4644945649553_756057671_n.jpg)


this bot looks strangely RA2ish
  Love that harpoon spike thingy, is the builder someone on GTM?  Love how the removable link looks like a face, but pratcicality-wise, it seems vulnerable.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenFox93 on June 01, 2013, 01:13:32 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600780_4644945649553_756057671_n.jpg)


this bot looks strangely RA2ish
  Love that harpoon spike thingy, is the builder someone on GTM?  Love how the removable link looks like a face, but pratcicality-wise, it seems vulnerable.
Funny you should mention that Sonny, since it's now been upgraded-
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/3766TheMole.jpg)
-into The Mole, from Thunderbirds.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on June 04, 2013, 08:13:30 PM
Hey SKBT, whatever happened to Elton? You made it like 2 years ago and it never competed in anything...
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on June 04, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
It's real, why would it be fake?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: SKBT on June 04, 2013, 11:49:08 PM
Hey SKBT, whatever happened to Elton? You made it like 2 years ago and it never competed in anything...

i never got escs for it. its currently sitting on top of Shish-Kabots carcass with the remnants of DoorStop.


That pic GF posted is fake right? :P

nope its real.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/970885_4695236586795_337432325_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600664_4686271842682_1697004083_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on June 04, 2013, 11:59:00 PM
Indeed, it's a very good looking robot, I love the creativity.  The first draft had a chassis made out of a shopping cart or something, it looked even cooler
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: R1885 on June 30, 2013, 10:41:35 PM
We have yet another source of bot parts:
http://www.titantechindustries.com/index.html (http://www.titantechindustries.com/index.html)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on July 01, 2013, 12:12:56 AM
I've seen Battlebots before, live. I was like 3 or 4 at the time.

Wait wait wait. You're like 11 right? That means to even have seen BB live you would have been like a few months old, if not not even born yet. Even then, Buddy Lee didn't even compete in Season 5, so that means you can't possibly have seen it fight.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on July 03, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4icLbFOhSbs# (http://youtube.com/watch?v=4icLbFOhSbs#)

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the most pathetic robot in existence.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: 090901 on July 03, 2013, 02:40:13 AM
It's even more saddening how long it took the other robot to kill it
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Paranoia on July 03, 2013, 03:54:23 AM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600780_4644945649553_756057671_n.jpg)


this bot looks strangely RA2ish

This is the only bot I've ever seen which uses a razor.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on July 03, 2013, 12:52:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVhX9EGsy-o# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVhX9EGsy-o#)

Found this just now :D
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: R1885 on July 03, 2013, 10:22:48 PM
This has got to be the most ghetto bot I have ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DcIc-V48Q4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DcIc-V48Q4)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on July 04, 2013, 10:27:05 AM
This has got to be the most ghetto bot I have ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DcIc-V48Q4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DcIc-V48Q4)

His HS does impressive damage. :laughing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiCt88nYXdk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiCt88nYXdk)

Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: SKBT on July 04, 2013, 11:05:59 AM
i'm more impressed that the particle board didn't grenade

still pretty cool. the craftsmanship, as ghetto as it is, is pretty good.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on July 04, 2013, 01:51:55 PM
Yeah, that HS is pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: SKBT on July 12, 2013, 05:20:57 PM
North American Heavyweighs are not dead.[url] (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=14362)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: AlexGRFan97 on July 12, 2013, 05:28:22 PM
But superheavyweights still are. :ouch:
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MassimoV on July 12, 2013, 06:04:18 PM
You need a BB to get SHWs back in.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: AlexGRFan97 on July 13, 2013, 05:29:29 PM
I still don't get why they were taken out of the picture in the first place, and the surprising amount of massive circlejerking regarding that decision which happened with robotic "experts". I remember finding a news article which said something along the lines of "Hurr durr I'm glad they're gone nao bcuz the title of superheavyweights sounds redicolus, especially when you consider that heavyweights are the best boxers. Also, they are not entertaining and have dwindling numbers hurr hurr hurr and I know nothing about robot combat's heritage." I wanted to find where that guy lived and beat the living crap out of him for posting that tabloid-based drivel.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: SKBT on July 13, 2013, 06:30:13 PM
nobody built superheavies after bb because the cost to build one is astronomically high. and no more tv deal meant no more sponsorships. the only reason that superheavy existed in the first place was to let snake fight.

Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MassimoV on December 08, 2013, 09:35:41 PM
Yo I gots a question for y'all. We're throwin this one all the way back to '99 so I don't know if Imma get an answer. But in the RW Series 1 finals, what the heck was with Cunning Plan and Tracie getting immobilized. Tracie drove up the wedge and JP's all like" hoopty doopty they're both out cheerio." Like what was going on there?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on December 08, 2013, 09:52:31 PM
In that particular fight there were no house robots in the arena, so if anyone was to separate them, it would be one of their opponents.  I think it would've been nice for one of the teams to help them out, but I can't blame them, they were there to play ball.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MassimoV on December 08, 2013, 09:55:19 PM
But couldn't Cuning Plan just back dat ass up?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on December 08, 2013, 10:09:32 PM
That's an RC car with like 200 pounds of weight on it, it aint moving.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on March 30, 2014, 02:19:20 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/1509324_623739627706270_13588523_n.jpg)

oh sweet jesus thats terrifying
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: helloface on March 30, 2014, 02:48:20 PM
<---  Couldn't not do this. Sorry.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on May 07, 2014, 09:08:06 PM
http://buildersdb.com/view_team_bots.asp?teamid=4065 (http://buildersdb.com/view_team_bots.asp?teamid=4065)

RFS 2: RFS Harder
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Natef on May 08, 2014, 06:48:48 AM
Wait, that's him?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on May 08, 2014, 07:58:12 AM
No, but this guy's building reminds me of him. Salvaged RC car parts and duct tape, you know.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: RFS on May 08, 2014, 10:45:42 AM
Word.  :gawe:

When your entire robot costs as much as just the fancy weapon motor of your opponent and you still win and burn their motor out in the process that's a pretty cool feeling.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Natster-104 on May 08, 2014, 11:38:56 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/1509324_623739627706270_13588523_n.jpg)

oh sweet jesus thats terrifying
(Bit of a bump)
Just asking, how did you get the photo
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on May 08, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
someone posted it on the robot wars fb group
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Natster-104 on May 08, 2014, 01:22:09 PM
someone posted it on the robot wars fb group
Oh ok, I was just curious
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Natef on September 08, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
found some old fights: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH2SK956z6RNA9-58rVatE3V7dcAnYi89 (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH2SK956z6RNA9-58rVatE3V7dcAnYi89)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on December 17, 2014, 01:58:00 AM
fun fact: the guys that made heavy metal noise last competed in 2013 with Kinetic Chaos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsuKdmqdeXo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsuKdmqdeXo#)

aka the robot that isn't the blender in this video
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: R1885 on January 06, 2015, 07:38:37 PM
Hey a bunch of Handiworks drills with Team Cosmos hubs showed up on ebay
Probably gonna pick these up, but if not these would be pretty good in a hobbyweight(or beetle if you're insane enough).
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Natef on January 06, 2015, 08:37:41 PM
wowzers, team cosmos! great bunch of builders.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MikeNCR on July 02, 2015, 11:57:42 AM
On an unrelated note my sisters kid saw battlebots and heard from them that I used to do that, now he's all in frenzy mode so I'll be dragging him out to bot bash in a few weeks.
Depending on commitment from him I might be making bots again at some point in the near future.

It would be cool to see a mini-DoS show up at Moto this year.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: TDS on July 02, 2015, 01:12:00 PM
On an unrelated note my sisters kid saw battlebots and heard from them that I used to do that, now he's all in frenzy mode so I'll be dragging him out to bot bash in a few weeks.
Depending on commitment from him I might be making bots again at some point in the near future.

It would be cool to see a mini-DoS show up at Moto this year.

I'm not seeing that on builders db?  It seems like east coast events are limited to like 6 pounders where i'd rather play around the 12-30 pound limit where i'm not doing crap like drilling holes in zipties to make weight, and the number of 1-6 pounders that are just a motor with a ridicilous weapon is a little scary when you can't fit enough armor in that weight limit to protect your expensive stuff
I'm also at a pretty large disadvantage it seems since tech (like cheap speed controllers and batteries now, wat?) seems to have advanced quite a bit but there's no delphi forums hoedown to really troll for newer information and I dont really know a ton anymore.

I /do/ still have my 60lber in the basement but those SLA's are looking ripe, lol.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MikeNCR on July 02, 2015, 04:17:35 PM
On an unrelated note my sisters kid saw battlebots and heard from them that I used to do that, now he's all in frenzy mode so I'll be dragging him out to bot bash in a few weeks.
Depending on commitment from him I might be making bots again at some point in the near future.

It would be cool to see a mini-DoS show up at Moto this year.

I'm not seeing that on builders db?  It seems like east coast events are limited to like 6 pounders where i'd rather play around the 12-30 pound limit where i'm not doing crap like drilling holes in zipties to make weight, and the number of 1-6 pounders that are just a motor with a ridicilous weapon is a little scary when you can't fit enough armor in that weight limit to protect your expensive stuff
I'm also at a pretty large disadvantage it seems since tech (like cheap speed controllers and batteries now, wat?) seems to have advanced quite a bit but there's no delphi forums hoedown to really troll for newer information and I dont really know a ton anymore.

I /do/ still have my 60lber in the basement but those SLA's are looking ripe, lol.

Registration isn't up on BuildersDB for Moto yet, here's the most recent Moto- http://www.buildersdb.com/view_bots.asp?eventid=395 (http://www.buildersdb.com/view_bots.asp?eventid=395)

NERC's also putting on an event in Philadelphia in the fall- http://www.buildersdb.com/eventdetail.asp?eventid=410 (http://www.buildersdb.com/eventdetail.asp?eventid=410)

Mountains of event video at: https://www.youtube.com/user/mikencr/playlists (https://www.youtube.com/user/mikencr/playlists)

As far as communities go, there's http://sparc.tools/forum/index.php (http://sparc.tools/forum/index.php) and https://www.facebook.com/groups/RobotCombat/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/RobotCombat/)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on July 04, 2015, 08:20:10 PM
On an unrelated note my sisters kid saw battlebots and heard from them that I used to do that, now he's all in frenzy mode so I'll be dragging him out to bot bash in a few weeks.

You mean Bot Blast?

Aw man this year's gonna be amazing
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: TDS on July 06, 2015, 07:48:23 AM
You mean Bot Blast?

Aw man this year's gonna be amazing

Yeah thats the one
I'm thinking of something DOS-ish, a greenspan style spinner for the 30lb sportsmans, we'll just make two frames so I'll make something for the 30lb big boys club ;)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on July 06, 2015, 02:19:25 PM
Do you still have DoS? You should bring some bits of it for display!
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MikeNCR on July 06, 2015, 02:26:09 PM
You mean Bot Blast?

Aw man this year's gonna be amazing

Yeah thats the one
I'm thinking of something DOS-ish, a greenspan style spinner for the 30lb sportsmans, we'll just make two frames so I'll make something for the 30lb big boys club ;)

Here's the relevant rule if you go sportsman with a spinny thing-

Limitations on spinning weapons
All devices rotating more than 360 degrees must not exceed 400 rpm. Weapon rpm will be measured by tachometer prior to the start of the event. To remain within the spirit of this class, you should not attempt to create the most destructive spinning weapon possible under the rpm limit. Specific weapons of sufficiently high mass or moment of inertia (MOI) may be limited to lower rpm or disallowed by officials if they deem the weapon to be too destructive. Officials may require submission of specifications including motor, voltage, gearing ratio, weapon weight and dimensions prior to the event.

However, specific weapons of very low mass or very low moment of inertia (MOI) may be allowed at a higher rpm. The intent of said weapons should NOT be to deliver large kinetic hits. But rather cutting, drilling, scraping, ect.

All weapons operating above the 400 rpm limit MUST be submitted to the NERC board for approval during registration. If you have any questions about the legality of a weapon you can read or post on the NERC Delphi Forumn here:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/CJRC/messages?msg=2422.1 (http://forums.delphiforums.com/CJRC/messages?msg=2422.1)

or email NERC: robotconflict@gmail.com
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Natef on July 06, 2015, 04:02:57 PM
Do you still have DoS? You should bring some bits of it for display!

DoS?
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on July 06, 2015, 05:20:33 PM
http://buildersdb.com/botdetails.asp?eventid=&BotID=2276 (http://buildersdb.com/botdetails.asp?eventid=&BotID=2276)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: TDS on July 06, 2015, 09:28:30 PM
Do you still have DoS? You should bring some bits of it for display!

well the disk is ****ed but i really should have kept it, but I still have a lot of the frame and baseplate, the rest was gutted for money :)

"The plan" which I've just concocted would probably be building two heavily armored frames that we could strap different weapons into, so we could swap parts and such.  I think a greenspan style rotary flail could be effective, since honestly it doesn't give a sh** how much energy its holding, if @400rpm it can dent whatever material its hitting, its going to make a lot of noise and sparks.  If building hinges into your spinning disk is "building for maximium destructive power under the rpm limit" i'll be damned :)

We'll see, I'm in a weird place since I basically know all there is to know about the /mechanics/ of exactly how I want to build exactly what I want to build, I just have no idea anymore about the motors, speed controllers, radios, ect. anymore.
And what the hell is with brushless motors, what kind of crack child doesn't list their motors by actual energy output? how the hell are you supposed to know anything? lol
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MikeNCR on July 06, 2015, 09:35:12 PM
Do you still have DoS? You should bring some bits of it for display!

well the disk is ****ed but i really should have kept it, but I still have a lot of the frame and baseplate, the rest was gutted for money :)

"The plan" which I've just concocted would probably be building two heavily armored frames that we could strap different weapons into, so we could swap parts and such.  I think a greenspan style rotary flail could be effective, since honestly it doesn't give a sh** how much energy its holding, if @400rpm it can dent whatever material its hitting, its going to make a lot of noise and sparks.  If building hinges into your spinning disk is "building for maximium destructive power under the rpm limit" i'll be damned :)

We'll see, I'm in a weird place since I basically know all there is to know about the /mechanics/ of exactly how I want to build exactly what I want to build, I just have no idea anymore about the motors, speed controllers, radios, ect. anymore.
And what the hell is with brushless motors, what kind of crack child doesn't list their motors by actual energy output? how the hell are you supposed to know anything? lol

As a NERC officer, I'd call a 400rpm Greenspan style rotary flail totally legit for the Sportsman class. As far as motors/gearboxes, the e0designs.com DeWut is very good. I'm also a fan of the Magnum775 from Robot Power, and a lot of people like the various banebots options. ESC wise I use the Ragebridge (v2 coming soon) in my 30's wherever possible. There's also BotBitz esc's and the Holmes Hobbies BR-XL that have been used with a lot of success. On radio gear, I use a Spectrum DX6i and one of the OrangeRX variants. (R410X and R615x)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: kill343gs on July 06, 2015, 10:26:51 PM
While I appreciate the discussion going on here, I would like to point you gentlemen in the direction of the real robotics section, just for the sake of keeping this thread on topic.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: TDS on July 07, 2015, 01:10:14 PM
While I appreciate the discussion going on here, I would like to point you gentlemen in the direction of the real robotics section, just for the sake of keeping this thread on topic.

NEVER!
also you can split the topic into a new topic
Also also: i'll be wearing my Buffalo Warmachine jersey if any of you guys track me down out there
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Thyrus on July 07, 2015, 03:26:53 PM
While I appreciate the discussion going on here, I would like to point you gentlemen in the direction of the real robotics section, just for the sake of keeping this thread on topic.

NEVER!
also you can split the topic into a new topic
Also also: i'll be wearing my Buffalo Warmachine jersey if any of you guys track me down out there

Just because we can doesn't mean we have to. ;)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on July 07, 2015, 04:08:10 PM
I did it anyway. ;)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: TDS on July 09, 2015, 08:35:32 AM
As a NERC officer, I'd call a 400rpm Greenspan style rotary flail totally legit for the Sportsman class. As far as motors/gearboxes, the e0designs.com DeWut is very good. I'm also a fan of the Magnum775 from Robot Power, and a lot of people like the various banebots options. ESC wise I use the Ragebridge (v2 coming soon) in my 30's wherever possible. There's also BotBitz esc's and the Holmes Hobbies BR-XL that have been used with a lot of success. On radio gear, I use a Spectrum DX6i and one of the OrangeRX variants. (R410X and R615x)

We'll see, I'll be putting up my LW frame/weapons a MC1-HV and some misc stuff on ebay in the next week or so for funding this project, august is going to be tight

I'm eying Bitzbots 75amp esc's and the magnnum 775 seems reasonable (they run jensons right?)
Still poking around for /my/ weapon setup, his will probably be another 775 with appropriate belting because i'm lazy and it saves having to buy spares specifically for that
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: R1885 on July 29, 2015, 10:01:32 PM
They claim these (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__81316__150rpm_Brushed_Motor_OH35P01_1_35_Rock_Crawler_Kit_AR_Warehouse_.html) are for rock crawlers, but we all know who they're really selling these too.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on July 30, 2015, 09:11:54 PM
Woah. That is cheap as hell for any gearmotor. Lemme know how they work out if you're getting them.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: TDS on August 09, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
Ordered everything for the 30lber this afternoon (well just about)

Cutting more corners than I would like, but need to make it in time for franklin

Unfortunately design is outstripping means right now as mechanically I dont' have access to a lot of machinery I need to make this thing /ridiculous/  So against my better judgement and obsession with razors edge performance i'm cutting corners to get this thing ready in time.

Hopefully by event #2 I'll have access to what I need to go from "hey that thing is pretty neat" to "what the hell, dude"

If someone has waterjet/laser cutter/something access and/or can cut titanium shafting without a hacksaw and can hook a brother up i'd appreciate it :p

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1503811792007_10152985212831611_4012354623202144936_o.jpg)

Yeah, thats going in it
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on August 10, 2015, 08:35:24 AM
check out https://www.bigbluesaw.com/ (https://www.bigbluesaw.com/)
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: TDS on August 10, 2015, 09:58:08 AM
Yeah i've seen them, its still in excess of $100 per part for something reasonably simple, and it isn't clear on their quote bot how much of their price is material and how much is labor but i've screwed around with their submission tool and it appears that part complexity has very little to do with the cost, I think its more an option if I want to go all in with the waterjet thing and fill every square inch of a sheet, not so much for a few misc parts.  Right now i'm doing cust cutting measures like making the side panels out of 2" square tubing that i'll hollow out parts of to make integral wheelguards and such when I could just as easily have the whole thing waterjet cut.

But really my big problem is my 70+ year old lathe took a dump which has really backlogged the work I could have done before the order.

We'll see, I have a few ebay auctions out there that if they sell in a few days it may be an option, the HPA tank and a few misc parts should be in tomorrow or weds so I can verify the exact dimensions of the damn things, then I can make my metal orders.  The tough part of this bot is the hpa system is so huge and weirdly shaped it kind of decides the shape of every other part so I just have a roughed out design, wheelpods, and a pretty good idea of the layout.  Hell, i'm not even sure where the front wheels are going because I dont know the length of the bottle+regulator+street elbow i'm going to need.

The good part about it is I can keep going over the design until parts show up and I need to commit, its still killing me that the only way to fit that cylinder in is to put it under the hammer which costs me some profile space, I really wanted a low to the ground "judge" ish design with more than 180 degrees hammer range :(  Ruin2 will probably go 2 lower profile bottles and some longer cylinders with bigger cams on the hammer shaft to make up for the changes.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: TDS on August 10, 2015, 04:05:28 PM
I've noticed that, just my hammer arm was like $150 to do which I was expecting, but having a ton of frame members cut out of 3/8" was ~130 or somesuch, which is cheap!

it seems like if you stay below 1/2" the price is pretty manageable.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: MikeNCR on August 10, 2015, 04:23:27 PM
I've noticed that, just my hammer arm was like $150 to do which I was expecting, but having a ton of frame members cut out of 3/8" was ~130 or somesuch, which is cheap!

it seems like if you stay below 1/2" the price is pretty manageable.

A huge, huge part of the initial waterjet cost is the setup which is why both parts ended up being about the same price. The big trick with waterjetting is to make as many parts as you can out of the same material and thickness so you're only paying the setup portion of the cost once for all of the parts instead of once per part.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: TDS on August 10, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
I've noticed that, just my hammer arm was like $150 to do which I was expecting, but having a ton of frame members cut out of 3/8" was ~130 or somesuch, which is cheap!

it seems like if you stay below 1/2" the price is pretty manageable.

A huge, huge part of the initial waterjet cost is the setup which is why both parts ended up being about the same price. The big trick with waterjetting is to make as many parts as you can out of the same material and thickness so you're only paying the setup portion of the cost once for all of the parts instead of once per part.

I know that applies to regular machining (I know what i'm doing here) but that isn't necessarily true for waterjet as its 2D and a lot of the settings you need to input can be pre-set or referred to a chart or table (there's only so many material and thicknesses you're cutting here)
Don't get me wrong, its a pain in the ass, but it isn't facing all 6 sides of a block of metal and setting up a cnc by any stretch of the imagination.  You're paying about 60 bucks for them to setup the machine for you, sure thats fine.

that being said their prices are /really/ reasonable for large frame members and stuff,  I was really impressed at what my frame might cost me (especially since they are providing the metal)  I'd really appreciate an option of "get this sh** to me whenever you like for cheaper" where they could stuff my stuff in on the edge of someone elses work when they happen to be doing that material or something.  But thats me being picky, i'll likely end up machining the hammer arm myself and doing it poorly since my mill only has a 11" or so travel.

I'm probably going to use them for the frame, which will take some redesigning since i was planning on using 2" .125wall square tubing for the drive pods and spine, with waterjet i need to end tap so its going to have to be at least .375 thick
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Tweedy on August 13, 2015, 12:47:48 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/oJ9dDZf.jpg)
Started gathering the parts for a couple of new things yesterday, 25mm silver steel for a feather and 10mm for a beetle, both acquired through work which was handy.
Terminus is there for scale.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: R1885 on August 21, 2015, 03:58:36 PM
http://www.etotheipiplusone.net/pics/ssr/ssr15.jpg (http://www.etotheipiplusone.net/pics/ssr/ssr15.jpg)
Words fail me.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on August 21, 2015, 04:01:26 PM
Still think it's pretty snazzy, honestly.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Tashic on August 21, 2015, 06:24:31 PM
If is anything like my IF bot, it won't be that bad, a.k.a. BORING!
Needless to say that I want the chaos.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: R1885 on October 08, 2015, 03:26:58 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BATTLEBOT-Killer-Robot-Chassis-Laser-Cut-Steel-/111788983950?hash=item1a0724868e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BATTLEBOT-Killer-Robot-Chassis-Laser-Cut-Steel-/111788983950?hash=item1a0724868e)
So, uh, this popped up. If you want to waste your money get this thing combat ready, I'd like to see it.
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on October 08, 2015, 11:14:49 AM
1500?  Hopefully, they'll realize that metal alone ain't worth that and relist it for cheaper
Title: Re: Robotics General Discussion Thread
Post by: R1885 on November 27, 2015, 08:12:30 PM
Now Hobbyking really (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6zAN2ZqP6U) wants our business.