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Title: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Philippa on March 04, 2017, 07:27:47 PM: General Series Disuccion - https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=19466.0
Robot Wars - http://www.robotwars.tv/

Check out the funky fresh poll to predict the champion too. Five votes, one for each Heat.
Also let's keep things in spoiler tags after each episode for like a day or two.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Badger on March 04, 2017, 07:37:38 PM: It's behemoth's year. For real this time. Honest.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dreamcast on March 04, 2017, 07:39:25 PM: Quote from: Badger on March 04, 2017, 07:37:38 PM
It's behemoth's year.

Behemoth's year to break down. No wait, that's every year, my bad.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Philippa on March 04, 2017, 07:46:15 PM: Predictions for Grand Finalists.

A: Aftershock (Predictable.)
B: Eruption (50/50 with this and PP3D to be honest.)
C: MR Speed Squared (Neat improvements make this look like a solid robot. I have faith, but it's not backed up by much.)
D: Pulsar (Reliability issues hopefully sorted out, and lots of improvements made here too.)
E: Carbide (Better than the only other threat in this Heat anyway.)

Wildcard: PP3D (I said it was a 50/50 with this and Eruption, sooo...)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: helloface on March 04, 2017, 07:51:05 PM: A: Aftershock
B: Behemoth
C: Thor
D: Apex
E: Carbide
Wildcard: Apollo

F: Aftershock
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Badnik96 on March 04, 2017, 09:52:08 PM: isnt there already a thread for this
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: helloface on March 04, 2017, 10:49:42 PM: Quote from: Badnik96 on March 04, 2017, 09:52:08 PM
isnt there already a thread for this
Does the other thread have a poll?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Mecha on March 04, 2017, 11:05:13 PM: Quote from: Dreamcast on March 04, 2017, 07:39:25 PM
Quote from: Badger on March 04, 2017, 07:37:38 PM
It's behemoth's year.

Behemoth's year to break down. No wait, that's every year, my bad.
:laughing
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on March 05, 2017, 02:02:30 AM: Quote from: Mechadino on March 04, 2017, 11:05:13 PM
Quote from: Dreamcast on March 04, 2017, 07:39:25 PM
Quote from: Badger on March 04, 2017, 07:37:38 PM
It's behemoth's year.

Behemoth's year to break down. No wait, that's every year, my bad.
:laughing

Too bad the BBC micro-bit page had to spoil about Behemoth in their video for young children wanting to start in combat robotics *Tut tut* If you want the link then PM me.
Still, looking forward to tonight's episode with the strong line-up set ahead, especially when the heat contains strong competitors like Aftershock, Rapid and Terrorhurtz. The battles themselves, I'm watching them with my Dad, since he wanted to watch the episodes with me as usual like every-time my family watches one of the specials from the old series of Top Gear.
As for all of you, enjoy the episode and I'll talk about it later!
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on March 05, 2017, 02:02:59 PM: Bulk post!
Just watched the first episode of New Series and before I share my opinion, what do some of you guys think about the episode and what did you like about the new series so far?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: powerrave on March 05, 2017, 02:07:00 PM: House Robots going rogue is pretty funny.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on March 05, 2017, 02:13:12 PM: Quote from: powerrave on March 05, 2017, 02:07:00 PM
House Robots going rogue is pretty funny.
I didn't find it that funny but still, at least the House Robots got more involved in the series so far. Also if you did see the trailer for the next episode, Heat B and E were swapped around, probably either because of the Champions Apollo or the producers found Heat B a bit weak, I'm not too sure. Can't wait for the next episode though.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Jammy Dodger on March 05, 2017, 02:18:55 PM: Rapid was disappointing but Jellyfish came back sooooo
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Merrick on March 05, 2017, 02:23:40 PM: Frustrating that this episode highlighted the biggest problem of Series 8, which was barely-functioning robots making the heat final due to the round robin format.

Aftershock was awesome though.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on March 05, 2017, 02:30:40 PM: Quote from: Mazakari on March 05, 2017, 02:23:40 PM

Frustrating that this episode highlighted the biggest problem of Series 8, which was barely-functioning robots making the heat final due to the round robin format.

Aftershock was awesome though.

Have to agree, especially in the round robin when AfterShock performed an unsportsmanlike move on Sabretooth by damaging them when Sabretooth was already immobilised. I still feel bad for Terrorhurtz though, and ofcourse Sabretooth.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Thyrus on March 05, 2017, 02:32:35 PM: Quote from: Dark-Al on March 05, 2017, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: Mazakari on March 05, 2017, 02:23:40 PM

Frustrating that this episode highlighted the biggest problem of Series 8, which was barely-functioning robots making the heat final due to the round robin format.

Aftershock was awesome though.

Have to agree, especially in the round robin when AfterShock performed an unsportsmanlike move on Sabretooth by damaging them when Sabretooth was already immobilised. I still feel bad for Terrorhurtz though, and ofcourse Sabretooth.

100% this.
In the old days Series 3 turned around everything within the format. Hope Season 3 does the same thing
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Scorpio on March 06, 2017, 01:41:42 AM: My two cents:
-Team Shock may be my new fave combat robots team. Shockwave was one of my faves in S8, and Aftershock is just plain amazing. Aftershock definitely deserved that win, hope they carry on through the finals.

-Redemption 4 Gabe; Sabertooth '17 was a beast, almost as much as Aftershock... but it never was really the same after the latter tore it to chunks. I got a serious 'held together with scotch tape' vibe when they ended up repaired, that's how bad the damage was. I think it would've won the heat (or at least had a better chance of doing so) had Aftershock not happened. They deserved to get as far as they did though

-Poor Terrorhurtz and John Reid, screwed over in the head-to-heads for the second time in a row. John did an admirable job putting Terrorhurtz back together after the run-in with Sabertooth, but... think VSs are not the best opponents for it.

-OK show of hands, who actually expected Jellyfish to win anything. Granted it was a judge's decision against a Sabertooth that looked barely taped back together, but... yeah. Sabertooth would had shredded the cnidarian machine had it been in better condition. TBF to Jellyfish the design would probably have worked if it weren't made from HDPE (see: Huggy Bear)

-I felt TMHWK and Crank-E would have done better had they not been subjected to Sabertooth and Aftershock respectively. Nuts 2 going out the way it did (and not being reinstated) was a crying shame. Rapid's dropping out is a cautionary tale in why over-complication is never a good thing.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: WeN on March 06, 2017, 03:08:38 AM: Heat A Rumble 1:
Rip Nut 2 for messing around with maditla.

Heat A Final:
After Aftershock hit Sabretooth, Look like Sir Killalot going to grab him and put him on fire, Nice Job Aftershock.

Look like I going to bet Aftershock to win Robot Wars Series 9.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: RedSawn on March 06, 2017, 05:47:07 AM: I'm not sure I like the randomised tire button. Letting the house robots have a bit more say is good, but the dial makes me think more of a kids game show then a gladitorial contest.

Though what if they built on it? Would we have the Wheel of (Mis)Fortune in season 10?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Mouldy on March 06, 2017, 06:18:57 AM: I do have an advantage over others since I went to see it. We weren't told what fights were which but I watched fights from Heats 2, 3 and 4.

Heat 2: PP3D
Heat 3: Thor
Heat 4: Supernova
Heat 5: Apollo
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: kix on March 06, 2017, 09:48:54 AM: REALLY HUGE SPOILER IF YOU DIDNT WATCHED EPISODE 1!

Bots opinion (Heat A)

1st 4-way
Nuts went bye! So as its wheel!
Rapid: Good bot, but the flipper got jammed few times
Jellyfish: Awesome ****ing bot 2017!
Terrorhurtz: Did well.. not much action though.

2nd 4-way
Sabretooth: The drum is really poweful, but fragile..
Aftershock: Great update from Shockvawe and the weapon is devastating.
Crank-E: Do not really like the looks of it.
TMHWK: Nice ladies made bot, could go far but then Sabertooth appeared

1st battle
THZ v Aftershock
Battle went bad for THZ from the beggining.. Lost most of the bot and then mobility..

2nd battle
Aftershock v Rapid
Again.. it was bad from the start as Rapid's flipper was jammed.. Aftershock flipped it and it couldnt self-right

3rd battle
Aftershock v Sabretooth
Sabretooth had no chance.. The first blow from Aftershock killed Sabretooth's drive. After few more hits its armor and motor fell of..

4th battle
THZ v Jellyfish
After Rapid forefited Jelly jumped in..
It lost.. (im heart broken)

5th battle
Sabretooth v THZ
THZ's Axe wasnt working.. it was doomed

6th battle
Sabretooth v Jellyfish
Sabretooth put its drum motor the wrong way and costed the victory..

Final battle
Aftershock v Sabretooth
Well.. same as their first 1v1 but Savretooth was after the battle in a better condition

Tell me if i made a mistake
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: helloface on March 06, 2017, 04:50:44 PM: Certainly more confident in my prediction of Aftershock taking the championship. Last bot was durable, this one's brutal.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Thyrus on March 06, 2017, 05:14:21 PM: Aftershock is a really good bot but I kinda doubt it will win. if a good flipper tosses it on it's back it could do alot of damage to it self
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: TheRoboteer on March 06, 2017, 05:21:49 PM: Quote from: Thyrus on March 06, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
Aftershock is a really good bot but I kinda doubt it will win. if a good flipper tosses it on it's back it could do alot of damage to it self
The problem is gonna be a good flipper reaching the grand final. There's only 5 flippers left and they're in pretty stacked heats.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: kix on March 07, 2017, 01:36:53 AM: Quote from: TheRoboteer on March 06, 2017, 05:21:49 PM
Quote from: Thyrus on March 06, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
Aftershock is a really good bot but I kinda doubt it will win. if a good flipper tosses it on it's back it could do alot of damage to it self
The problem is gonna be a good flipper reaching the grand final. There's only 5 flippers left and they're in pretty stacked heats.
True
I think Mentorn doesnt want a flipper to win.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on March 08, 2017, 07:13:24 PM: Quote from: RedSawn on March 06, 2017, 05:47:07 AM
I'm not sure I like the randomised tire button. Letting the house robots have a bit more say is good, but the dial makes me think more of a kids game show then a gladitorial contest.

Though what if they built on it? Would we have the Wheel of (Mis)Fortune in season 10?
I'd want the 3rd option to be a dropzone, where it's positioned right in front of the pit tire, and drops if it lands on "DROP"
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: maybeChrisJack on March 09, 2017, 09:56:56 AM: MRW Sabretooth is kill (https://gfycat.com/PoliteShockedAustraliancattledog)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Gulden on March 10, 2017, 07:29:24 PM: Finally got to watch the first episode

Aftershock is something I wouldn't want to fight (As in fist to bot, not bot to bot.).

In reality, I think Aftershock can be beaten quite easily.
I'm putting my bets on the aftershock killer in Heat 4
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: RedSawn on March 10, 2017, 07:46:57 PM: Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on March 08, 2017, 07:13:24 PM
Quote from: RedSawn on March 06, 2017, 05:47:07 AM
I'm not sure I like the randomised tire button. Letting the house robots have a bit more say is good, but the dial makes me think more of a kids game show then a gladitorial contest.

Though what if they built on it? Would we have the Wheel of (Mis)Fortune in season 10?
I'd want the 3rd option to be a dropzone, where it's positioned right in front of the pit tire, and drops if it lands on "DROP"

The fourth is a gunge dunk for the opposing team(s)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Merrick on March 12, 2017, 08:48:47 AM: Gonna throw down some predictions for tonight.

MELEES:

Behemoth v Cobra v Eruption v Hobgoblin: Behemoth and Eruption to qualify. Pretty easy for both. Can't see the others giving them problems.

Cherub v Draven v PP3D v Push To Exit: PP3D and Push To Exit to qualify. Might depend on who PP3D goes for first. But Cherub has exposed wheels and Draven is nicely shaped to carve chunks out of and to get flipped around by PTE.

HEAD TO HEADS:
I'm not sure how the order of the battles are done but I'll hazard a guess at it.

Eruption v Push To Exit: Eruption to win via knockout.

PP3D v Behemoth: PP3D to win via knockout.

Eruption v Behemoth: Eruption to win via knockout.

PP3D v Push To Exit: PP3D to win via Judges.

PP3D v Eruption: PP3D to win via knockout.

Behemoth v Push To Exit: Push To Exit to win via Judges.

Standings:
PP3D - 8
Eruption - 6
Push To Exit - 2
Behemoth - 0

HEAT FINAL:

PP3D v Eruption: PP3D to win.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: RTC on March 12, 2017, 03:19:18 PM: Anthony Pritchard left the game (Disconnect by user)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on March 12, 2017, 03:20:42 PM: Just watched the Second episode and my God. This episode was probably the best of the Series so far! Seeing Eruption flipping out four robots in a row in all the head-to-heads was more exciting than any Roller Coaster ride you can find at Disney Land and let's not forget about PP3D hitting on Chreub was just as one of those WTF moments as you expect like a Fight at any Robotic combat event, expect one bot takes out one panel layer of Lexan from the Area. I think was overly too excited when typing this part up.
However, out of anyone, I was little peeved off with Cherub winning over Behemoth in the last Head-to-Head. While it did win it's fight over PP3D due to Cherub's aggression, Behemoth was the plain aggressor in the match but the last minute damage from Dead Metal was purely against Behemoth. I wasn't as salty as my Dad because he stated that Cherub mainly won because of the main reason was the Children on the team but he also thought PP3D should of won over Cherub because of it's damage on Cherub and that hit I mention early, despite me having to explain how the judging decisions work. Still feeling bad for Anthony around the last match but he should of handled the lost better instead of storming out of the Control Booth.
Well as of before, what do you guys think of this episode? Also damn it RTC! I was about to make the first post.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Thyrus on March 12, 2017, 03:25:42 PM: Worst episode so far. I'm really salty because of the decissions. Behemoth should have won and gotten a fair rematch in the heat final.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on March 12, 2017, 03:28:04 PM: Quote from: Thyrus on March 12, 2017, 03:25:42 PM

Worst episode so far. I'm really salty because of the decissions. Behemoth should have won and gotten a fair rematch in the heat final.

I think we all are a bit salty over Cherub and decisions. Join the Club Thyrus.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Merrick on March 12, 2017, 03:35:52 PM: Well, I couldn't have been more wrong.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Conraaa on March 12, 2017, 03:44:31 PM: Cherub vs PP3D: Wrong call in my opinion, I felt PP3D were winning up until that point.
Cherub vs Behemoth: Cherub won that easily. Behemoth wasn't nearly as controlled. I feel for Anthony, as he wasn't in the majority on #clawgate.

I hope people realise that the roboteers have no say whatsoever in the judging decisions and that

Cherub
doesn't get any flack for tonight's episode.

Was the editing a bit off today? Angela seemed more hurried that usual and they seemed to only show the latter half of a lot of interviews. Dara seemed weird, too.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Philippa on March 12, 2017, 04:49:29 PM: (https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17310373_1585272601513148_1468880162652932968_o.jpg?oh=a065439c621c660b29b46acd33c511eb&oe=592C9001)

;)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Schrikvis on March 12, 2017, 04:54:44 PM: Kurt's on point. :thumbup

It honestly feels like Behemoth was robbed, for once they actually had some good luck and managed to pin their opponent under the arena flipper, which, that never happens, only for it to not count. I also didn't like how Dead Metal seemed to restrain itself from cutting into Cherub, but I don't know if it actually did, probably looked at it wrong. Didn't like that match either way, rest of the episode was pretty good though! Eruption was totally killing it~
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Thyrus on March 12, 2017, 05:03:32 PM: (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/36818RWCherubBS.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73108RWCherubBS2.png)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Mouldy on March 12, 2017, 05:12:34 PM: (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/154183337655664640/290606979796434944/IMG_20170312_220616.jpg)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Conraaa on March 12, 2017, 05:16:09 PM: Quote from: Schrikvis on March 12, 2017, 04:54:44 PM
Kurt's on point. :thumbup

It honestly feels like Behemoth was robbed, for once they actually had some good luck and managed to pin their opponent under the arena flipper, which, that never happens, only for it to not count. I also didn't like how Dead Metal seemed to restrain itself from cutting into Cherub, but I don't know if it actually did, probably looked at it wrong. Didn't like that match either way, rest of the episode was pretty good though! Eruption was totally killing it~

The flipper thing was a production error, actually. There were supposed to be side panels on the flipper which weren't on for some reason that match. Under normal conditions going under the flipper would be impossible.

It would be very harsh to punish Cherub for a production error, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Thyrus on March 12, 2017, 05:17:51 PM: When you play a tournament in RA2 and you glitch through the floor does the game care about that? no it doesn't!

RA2 is love
RA2 is life
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Schrikvis on March 12, 2017, 05:58:55 PM: Quote from: Conraaa on March 12, 2017, 05:16:09 PM

The flipper thing was a production error, actually. There were supposed to be side panels on the flipper which weren't on for some reason that match. Under normal conditions going under the flipper would be impossible.

It would be very harsh to punish Cherub for a production error, wouldn't it?

Aye, but completely disregarding the entire first half wasn't right to Behemoth either. It doesn't help that the only thing we got out of giving Cherub the benefit of the doubt was a 5 second battle.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: wakkydude on March 12, 2017, 07:01:05 PM: Cherub beat PP3D fairly.

Aggression, in Robot Wars, is defined by "bringing the fight to the opponent". It is based on how much time you spend directly taking on the opponent head-on. Cherub was doing that, it drove straight into the spinner around three times, dictating the fight and stopping it from spinning, while PP3D was incredibly defensive and was just sitting back for portions, waiting for its disc to spin up.

That, combined with the poor control of PP3D, gives Cherub the fight.

Quote from: Schrikvis on March 12, 2017, 05:58:55 PM

Aye, but completely disregarding the entire first half wasn't right to Behemoth either. It doesn't help that the only thing we got out of giving Cherub the benefit of the doubt was a 5 second battle.

I don't know where you got that impression, I'm very sure they counted the whole fight.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: kix on March 12, 2017, 07:08:19 PM: Well.. watched it.. and i feel that Eruption deserved to go to the finals!

Major spoiler hidden.. phew
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Merrick on March 12, 2017, 07:13:27 PM: Cherub was clearly driving at PP3D and being agressive, taking the fight to them. Bar a single hit (which knocked itself out), PP3D was not winning that fight.

Same against Behemoth, Cherub clearly got under Behemoth and pushed it around (including into Dead Metal at one point) at least 3 times, compared to Behemoth's feeble shunts into Cherub's side.

I don't think either victory was undeserved, even if I'd have liked to have seen a Behemoth/Eruption rematch.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Natef on March 12, 2017, 08:30:27 PM: I think Anthony handled the situation after the Cherub fight better than people are making it out to be. He chose to leave and contain his frustration, instead of saying something regrettable on TV. Then he calmly explained the problem he had with his team.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
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Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Mouldy on March 13, 2017, 04:09:34 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7C3Y-tminE
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Gulden on March 13, 2017, 05:50:44 PM: During the beginning rumble, once I saw Charub hit PP3D, I knew it was favorite in the heat, purely because of the underdog effect.
I personally agree with the judges decision on Behemoth, but PP3D I was iffy on.
PP3D got put against everything that could counter it.
Push to Exit had a sad end early. Really could've stood a chance if it had worked.
The salt from Anthony is both hilarious and sad. Behemoth just can never catch a break. Make the clamper a little lower to the ground and ith should work next time Behemoth.
Eruption truly being the god of the heat. A well deserved win.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: dezox on March 14, 2017, 07:18:17 AM: are they still fixing judges decision to the favorite robot?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Merrick on March 14, 2017, 07:27:32 AM: No.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on March 14, 2017, 09:26:43 AM: I'm afraid not, otherwise it could be the case that Robots such as Tornado would of won over Storm 2 in the Series 7 Grand final due to being the champion at the time.
Despite this, I do have some links to Noel Sharkey's Explanations/tweets behind one of the Judge's decisions on the Second Episode. Both Tweets were around the PP3D VS Cherub match and formed together, they should make a message behind the decision why the judges chose Cherub over PP3D. Unfortunately I don't know if he did make some tweets on the Infamous Cherub VS Behemoth match, but I don't think there are any unless anyone wants to prove me wrong.

https://twitter.com/NoelSharkey/status/841222083669553152
https://twitter.com/NoelSharkey/status/841223193000062976
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: RedAce on March 14, 2017, 09:35:57 AM: While I was a little salty at first with Cherub winning both of it's decisions at first, I can still respect the decisions as a whole. What I am annoyed with was the inconsistency with the floor flipper. Anty B got caught in that in the AW rumble of Extreme 1 and no one cared about that.

Quote from: Conraaa on March 12, 2017, 05:16:09 PM
The flipper thing was a production error, actually. There were supposed to be side panels on the flipper which weren't on for some reason that match. Under normal conditions going under the flipper would be impossible.

It would be very harsh to punish Cherub for a production error, wouldn't it?

That's bad design and decisions for the production team. It scares me that crap like this will affect matches in the future.

Otherwise, pretty good episode overall. Eruption kicked some major ass out there and I loved it.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on March 14, 2017, 09:38:07 AM: Quote from: Dark-Al on March 14, 2017, 09:26:43 AM
I'm afraid not, otherwise it could be the case that Robots such as Tornado would of won over Storm 2 in the Series 7 Grand final due to being the champion at the time.
Despite this, I do have some links to Noel Sharkey's Explanations/tweets behind one of the Judge's decisions on the Second Episode. Both Tweets were around the PP3D VS Cherub match and formed together, they should make a message behind the decision why the judges chose Cherub over PP3D. Unfortunately I don't know if he did make some tweets on the Infamous Cherub VS Behemoth match, but I don't think there are any unless anyone wants to prove me wrong.

https://twitter.com/NoelSharkey/status/841222083669553152
https://twitter.com/NoelSharkey/status/841223193000062976
There's nothing to discuss about Behemoth vs Cherub - Behemoth did nothing in the match, and the reaction afterwards is the only reason it's controversial - Ant didn't give any indication that he thought they made the wrong call
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on March 14, 2017, 09:55:28 AM: Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on March 14, 2017, 09:38:07 AM
Quote from: Dark-Al on March 14, 2017, 09:26:43 AM
I'm afraid not, otherwise it could be the case that Robots such as Tornado would of won over Storm 2 in the Series 7 Grand final due to being the champion at the time.
Despite this, I do have some links to Noel Sharkey's Explanations/tweets behind one of the Judge's decisions on the Second Episode. Both Tweets were around the PP3D VS Cherub match and formed together, they should make a message behind the decision why the judges chose Cherub over PP3D. Unfortunately I don't know if he did make some tweets on the Infamous Cherub VS Behemoth match, but I don't think there are any unless anyone wants to prove me wrong.

https://twitter.com/NoelSharkey/status/841222083669553152
https://twitter.com/NoelSharkey/status/841223193000062976
There's nothing to discuss about Behemoth vs Cherub - Behemoth did nothing in the match, and the reaction afterwards is the only reason it's controversial - Ant didn't give any indication that he thought they made the wrong call
If you can notice that Behemoth did try to get underneath Cherub multiple times but failed due to not only Behemoth getting in at the right angle, but also not being able to get underneath Cherub due to the ground clearance of the Grabber. Despite Behemoth constantly on the attack half the time, trying to get the grabber underneath Cherub as based on what was shown on TV. While Cherub did charge in and did a few lifts with the forks and managed to get Dead Metal to damage Behemoth, but what I saw most of the time was that Behemoth was mostly on the offensive than Cherub.
I had stated that the Tweets were to do with the PP3D match not the Behemoth match due to some people finding the match to be a controversial one but not as controversial as the Former due to these tweets being made before the lateral match was shown on TV.
But I'm now regretting posting this un-required information due to how this has nothing to do with the Behemoth vs Cherub match. But it just if you require some information on some of the Decisions that the Judges made.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Somebody on March 14, 2017, 11:49:19 AM: Quote from: RedAce on March 14, 2017, 09:35:57 AM

While I was a little salty at first with Cherub winning both of it's decisions at first, I can still respect the decisions as a whole. What I am annoyed with was the inconsistency with the floor flipper. Anty B got caught in that in the AW rumble of Extreme 1 and no one cared about that.

Quote from: Conraaa on March 12, 2017, 05:16:09 PM
The flipper thing was a production error, actually. There were supposed to be side panels on the flipper which weren't on for some reason that match. Under normal conditions going under the flipper would be impossible.

It would be very harsh to punish Cherub for a production error, wouldn't it?

That's bad design and decisions for the production team. It scares me that crap like this will affect matches in the future.

Otherwise, pretty good episode overall. Eruption kicked some major ass out there and I loved it.

In response to the floor flipper comment, I feel that a rumble environment tends to be a "no unsticks" situation, due to the additional safety concerns of so many robots. That's my best response besides the typical "it was a sideshow antweight rumble 16 years ago and doesn't matter".
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: ajprice on March 14, 2017, 01:00:25 PM: So PP3D's problem was doing damage to itself as much as the thing it hits. Are they missing something in their spinner that other spinners have, like damping between the mechanism and the body or something like that? Probably very different levels of force involved, but as an example was Hypnodiscs spinner mounted a different way to protect it from it's own forces? Tombstone's spinner is outside the body so that probably gives some shock protection.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Thyrus on March 14, 2017, 01:04:28 PM: people should stop comparing modern spinners to Hypnodisc
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Somebody on March 14, 2017, 01:56:15 PM: Hypnodiscs spinner was mounted in tinfoil compared to PP3D, it's just that Hypnodisc stored less energy than a modern featherweight robot which made it too weak to really break itself.

Quote from: Thyrus on March 14, 2017, 01:04:28 PM
people should stop comparing modern spinners to Hypnodisc

please yes
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: doot on March 14, 2017, 03:17:31 PM: Quote from: Somebody on March 14, 2017, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: Thyrus on March 14, 2017, 01:04:28 PM
people should stop comparing modern spinners to Hypnodisc

please yes
^ THIS ^
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: yugitom on March 17, 2017, 05:51:33 PM: Looks like a robot is gonna get replaced by a reserve in the next episode. Look at this sneak peek:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/114114935742660610/292429566063017984/unknown.png)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Conraaa on March 19, 2017, 03:01:20 PM: Foxic got right royally screwed there. They could have won that episode.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on March 19, 2017, 03:09:26 PM: Yet again, my thoughts on another episode. Compared to last time,I don't really have a lot to say except only a few things. First, I felt bad for Foxic, I mean Craig really improved Foxic and it shows that clearly in the episode until Foxic was flipped over by the floor flipper and the lifting arm wasn't working *Sigh*. Foxic could of done well in the Head to heads but it was just that so I agree with you Conraaa. Tauron was a disappointment as well, most of the viewers never saw what the Weapon did because it was knocked out faster then any of the fastest immobilisations in Robot War. Finally the Heat final was pretty close though, even when I thought Thor was the prime aggressor of the fight, Concussion does did more damage to secure that win. I'm still happy with Concussion but I thought Thor would win in the end.
As always, have a say on what you think.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: jackster96 on March 19, 2017, 03:10:01 PM: Really sad that Foxic didn't get through looked rather strong, was hoping another robot would have to forfeit and Foxic replace it. Thought Thor had a strong contest to win that match at the end with him being way more aggressive and more controlled.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: kix on March 19, 2017, 03:17:28 PM: Gonna watch i tommorow... Soo excited
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: TheRoboteer on March 19, 2017, 03:30:43 PM: In some ways happy Concussion got through because they're an underdog newcomer. In other ways not because they entered Generic McDrumspinner. Sad to see Thor go, though it's easily done enough for the wildcard so far. Wish Speed Squared had performed well for more than 1 fight. And hot damn Heavy Metal's driving in that fight against SS was amazing.

That said, the pit lip really did leave a sour taste in m mouth. It's like the arena was designed by a blind man.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Thyrus on March 19, 2017, 03:31:17 PM: (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/9267BattlebotsRobotWarsBaby.jpg)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: wakkydude on March 19, 2017, 10:24:03 PM: I feel so bad for Craig Danby. He built something great, but got screwed - yes, by something that was somewhat in his control, but still. Could've done so much better
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: kix on March 20, 2017, 04:23:07 AM: Quote from: wakkydude on March 19, 2017, 10:24:03 PM

I feel so bad for Craig Danby. He built something great, but got screwed - yes, by something that was somewhat in his control, but still. Could've done so much better

I think that Foxic should've go trough.. Heavy metal was obviously immobile before Foxic
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Philippa on March 20, 2017, 01:34:34 PM: I don't just want to needlessly sh** on other peoples' robots, but honestly Expulsion did a lot better than I thought it was going to do.

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17390474_1296432693777972_5063831367107249721_o.jpg?oh=be68e8afc77c4f4c73d32f9d484fa365&oe=5953F1D4)

Yup, a lot better. It made it into the arena, so it outdid itself in my eyes.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: JoeBlo on March 22, 2017, 08:57:36 AM: Well I just binge watched the first 3 episodes to catch up.

The presentation and editing is 100% better this series than the last one.. so well done to the hosts and production as a whole.

The arena needs some work though.. panels falling off walls, robots getting stuck under the flipper and the pit lid cannot handle the weight of the robots on top of it.. it gets a little frustrating as a viewer, hopefully they are kinks that can be worked out.

I really feel for the Behemoth team 19 years since that robot showed up in Series 2, They really deserve a big win. Big shot out to them for supporting robot combat for all these years, I can understand the set walk off.. all these guys are not media trained politicians, they are human, you could see he was visibly upset and didnt want the probing questions.

I wish the judges were consistent though.. PP3D was eliminated for only going in circles (while the opponent wasnt moving at all) which is fine if those are the rules.. yet then Concussion got through on a decision while also only going circles.

Quote of the Series so far:

"Jason is a builder who estimates a bludgeoning victory.. yeah.. we all know about builders estimates Jason" -JP
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: RedAce on March 22, 2017, 09:19:05 AM: I'm kinda glad that Concussion was them for me to make it through, yet I don't see them doing too well against some of the finalists we have so far.

Also, I need to talk about Thor vs Concussion (the Head-to-Head one). I was entertained by the fight, yet was mostly just laughing and cringing at the crap happening throughout. It did make for a one what close battle, but it goes to show why the "rouge house robot" should not be on the same button as the damn pit-release button.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: IceCreamRulez on March 22, 2017, 10:40:31 AM: Anyone else think that Chimera 2 looked like Toe Crusher?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Merrick on March 22, 2017, 02:06:29 PM: Quote from: IceCreamRulez on March 22, 2017, 10:40:31 AM
Anyone else think that Chimera 2 looked like Toe Crusher?

Probably everyone.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on March 26, 2017, 02:08:29 PM: Well, that was one way how to get rid of a Robot. Just chuck it in the skip then you're done.
Anyways, the fourth episode in my opinion was better than the Third, but still has its fair share of controversy not to similar to episode 2. The first battle between Ironside 3 and Pulsar did have a good outcome of kindness with the judge giving both teams two points, but the Judges should of judge the fight up to the point when the countdown stopped working, which would of gone in the favour of Ironside 3 in my opinion. Lots of hard spinner hits which makes anyone excited like my Father since he was watching it with me and I explain through most of the points. Shame that Apex went out, could of done decently though unlike Frostbite which was cannon fodder to my eyes. So as usual, just state your opinions on what you thought about the Fourth episode and I'll be happy to talk about it.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Conraaa on March 26, 2017, 02:33:41 PM: Worst episode so far, which is a shame because there were lots of great robots this episode. I'm not sure how the producers didn't realise that when you put the four biggest spinners of the series in the same heat, they'll all maim each other early on and spend the rest of the episode limping about. These heat lineups aren't random, so they chose poorly.

Thor is currently my favourite for wildcard, because Pulsar seemed to be running very low on spares near the end, I doubt it could survive another episode. Thor or Cherub. One of them.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Mouldy on March 26, 2017, 02:43:28 PM: Front Seat (POV) - One of the head to head matches from tonight's heat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbuzfBcw5k
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: JoeBlo on March 27, 2017, 08:31:51 AM: Poor Supernova, so, so much potential but it never quite comes together. I love it when spinners are so quick the TV camera's pick up the whine quite loudly.

A lot off fun early on but a lot left limping at the end.. is the 2 hour window too short? or do teams just not prepare enough for total rebuild situations?

Series is humming along nicely, cant wait for the next episode :)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Thyrus on March 27, 2017, 08:41:09 AM: the rules seem a bit inconsitend to me. Pulsar vs Ironside 3 in the head to head looked like a simmilar situation ass PP3D vs Cherub. But this time both bots got 2 points. I can see why they did that but it doesn't seem right. In this case they could have given 2 points to Behemoth and Cherub in the fight with the Arenaflipper incident too
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Avalanche on March 27, 2017, 09:01:12 AM: Quote from: Thyrus on March 27, 2017, 08:41:09 AM
the rules seem a bit inconsitend to me. Pulsar vs Ironside 3 in the head to head looked like a simmilar situation ass PP3D vs Cherub. But this time both bots got 2 points. I can see why they did that but it doesn't seem right. In this case they could have given 2 points to Behemoth and Cherub in the fight with the Arenaflipper incident too
They cut out the regular post-match interview where Team Outlaw (Ironside 3) said that they saw the immobilisation counter count out Pulsar, and understandably stopped hitting them. The Judges didn't see this, and gave a regular judges decision, to Pulsar. I presume this is because he thought Pulsar had more aggression because Ironside didn't attack them again, but I am not certain that Ellis didn't just bribe Noel Sharkey.

Anyways, once this was mentioned, the judges realised "o s*** we f***ed up" and gave both teams 2 points because they needed repairs and a immediate rematch wouldn't have been fair on Pulsar. Or something. Then they gave 2 points to both teams.

I don't think they could have done anything else.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: JoeBlo on March 27, 2017, 10:15:19 AM: That makes more sense ^

Bit rough to repossess points from Pulsar but likewise it wasnt a fair decision against Ironside to loose out on points.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Conraaa on March 27, 2017, 10:51:49 AM: Quote from: Thyrus on March 27, 2017, 08:41:09 AM
the rules seem a bit inconsitend to me. Pulsar vs Ironside 3 in the head to head looked like a simmilar situation ass PP3D vs Cherub. But this time both bots got 2 points. I can see why they did that but it doesn't seem right. In this case they could have given 2 points to Behemoth and Cherub in the fight with the Arenaflipper incident too

The difference was the flipper incident has clear cut rules in place and they acted immediately to rectify it. This particular error with the timer was unprecedented and Ironside had no way to communicate it during the match.

I feel the most fair decision would have been a rematch. But tacking on another fight would have been awkward for many reasons including repair and episode time. Awarding both teams 2 points was the only thing they could have done while being fair and not completely butchering the schedule.

Going forward, I think they need to separate the referee and judge roles in a way similar to Battlebots. I know that this was a technical error and the judges weren't to know at the time, but I think it would be better for allowing the judges to judge the match.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Schrikvis on March 27, 2017, 01:19:22 PM: This is exactly the kind of problem refbot would've solved, I'm surprised it first happened this late in the new series. No hard feelings though the even split of points was fair-ish I guess.

Also this episode left a pretty noticable dent in the arena flipper, wonder if that was carried over into episodes filmed later.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: MassimoV on April 02, 2017, 02:17:17 AM: If they don't fix this format for next season, I'll be damned.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Conraaa on April 02, 2017, 01:35:44 PM: ...Did Crackers and Smash just enter the arena without a weapon? They've threatened to DQ people for that before.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: bigbiggerbiggest on April 02, 2017, 02:41:57 PM: Next episode is gonna be good I think! :gawe:
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Gulden on April 02, 2017, 06:31:37 PM: This heat had some very cool and beautiful robots. The other ones were made of junk.

Apollo: Very underwhelming. I never liked their design and their lackluster performance in the final makes me think they won't be making it to the wildcard.
Ms Nightshade: Storm is not a fullybody hammer. This is. At first, I had no idea what this even was. Why does the show call it a spikebot I wonder?
Coyote: At first glance, I really liked this bot. But once I spotted the chainsaw, I slowly started hoping it would get destroyed. Was not disappointed.
Rusty: Reminds me of Overdoser TBH. I thought it might be a spinner killer at first glance, but this thing just fell apart.
Carbide: A worthy finalist... makes me wonder how cobalt would've done if it didn't get wrecked by Bombshell...
Crackers'n'Smash: My personal favorite of the heat. This is just another step closer to making clusterbots viable.
Meggamouse: Is that a typo? Idk... Cuteness Shield: Inactive.
Trolley Rage: Reminds me of Napalm. It would still beat it at least.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Philippa on April 02, 2017, 06:41:51 PM: Quote from: Kurt on March 04, 2017, 07:46:15 PM
Predictions for Grand Finalists.

A: Aftershock (Predictable.)
B: Eruption (50/50 with this and PP3D to be honest.)
C: MR Speed Squared (Neat improvements make this look like a solid robot. I have faith, but it's not backed up by much.)
D: Pulsar (Reliability issues hopefully sorted out, and lots of improvements made here too.)
E: Carbide (Better than the only other threat in this Heat anyway.)

Wildcard: PP3D (I said it was a 50/50 with this and Eruption, sooo...)
Well, I guess 3/6 ain't bad.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on April 03, 2017, 05:36:51 AM: Last night's episode was a disappointment for me. Compared to all the other episodes when there would be a couple of good points of action and drama for me to talk about, here there wasn't much to really talk about despite what others may think. For me, not even the Carbine vs Apollo fights could make me excited. When the fights were Pretty good, I felt the fights could of gone longer like last series, but that what you get with modern day spinners and a couple of upgrades, matches that end in a few seconds. Still, I least I manged to see Meggamouse, which ran away like most mice. Apart from all that, I don't really have much to say apart from those few points.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Schrikvis on April 05, 2017, 06:51:33 AM: I wonder what would've happened if Crackers & Smash just let Carbide sit on top of them, immobilized, for 10 seconds.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on April 05, 2017, 07:21:42 AM: Quote from: Schrikvis on April 05, 2017, 06:51:33 AM

I wonder what would've happened if Crackers & Smash just let Carbide sit on top of them, immobilized, for 10 seconds.

Crackers and & Smash (C&S) would of been forced to be released, due to this action being counted as a pin, over an official immobilization because Carbide could still move around regardless of C&S being underneath Carbide. If Carbide wasn't moving an inch like the wheels weren't moving and C&S got underneath Carbide, then Carbide would be classed as immobilized because it couldn't move before C&S got underneath Carbide.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: jdg37 on April 05, 2017, 08:48:30 AM: So who is expected to get the wild card spot? I would assume Thor and Pulsar being likely options, with Apollo and Cherub as next tier options. Unless they decide to shock us and go with a non-heat finalist and send in someone like Behemoth or Terrorhertz just because they want to.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Philippa on April 05, 2017, 09:25:54 AM: Quote from: jdg37 on April 05, 2017, 08:48:30 AM

So who is expected to get the wild card spot? I would assume Thor and Pulsar being likely options, with Apollo and Cherub as next tier options. Unless they decide to shock us and go with a non-heat finalist and send in someone like Behemoth or Terrorhertz just because they want to.

Sabretooth, Pulsar, and Apollo are on the worse side of totalled going to the Wildcard, so I doubt it will be them. Cherub didn't exactly do much in the Heat aside from hold off Behemoth. Thor should be the one to get the Wildcard surely.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: JoeBlo on April 10, 2017, 08:16:22 AM: Carbide have that robot so well balanced between damage, stability and reliability.. hardly ever flitches when it hits something..
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Natef on April 16, 2017, 02:01:02 PM: does this mean eruption and carbide are going to be in the same heat in season 3
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on April 16, 2017, 02:22:42 PM: Another useless post of me summing up my opinions on this episode of Robot Wars and congratulation Carbide, which they'll never see this post anyway if it isn't too painfully obvious. In personal opinion, Apollo shouldn't of got the wildcard. Ok I don't care if Apollo was the current champion and won the Judge's criteria, I've felt that Thor was more deserving of the wildcard due to scoring more points in the Head-to-heads (6 (Thor) to 5 (Apollo)) and being better protective against spinners for a spinner dominated Final, compared to Apollo if you do remember when it faced Carbide despite what happen Thor in its Head-to-Head against Concussion but I know points aren't everything here.
As for the Matches, the Matches for me ranged from on the edge of a seat like a football match to as quick as flipping a coin. It wasn't like a random flip of a coin when anything can happen, but more on the lines of so quickly, its disappointing despite the random nature of Robot Combat. The only fight which got me excited was the AfterShock vs Eruption match, which wasn't over in two seconds and made me excited to watch to see who'll win in the end and hope there won't be a three way tie. The post matches were more than ever to be more of the Drama to just hope like any other average viewer to see if the teams can get their Robots ready in time.
Still, please have a say about what you think and celebrate for the new champion: Carbide! (I'm not that overly excited, just glad)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Thyrus on April 16, 2017, 04:54:59 PM: I was really bored. Carbide just did a rerun of what tombstone did in Battlebots by reaching the finale twice and winning the stuff in the second attempt. I hope they change the format. I was close to shut the stream off cause it was so predictable and boring.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: TheRoboteer on April 16, 2017, 04:57:30 PM: Quote from: Thyrus on April 16, 2017, 04:54:59 PM

I was really bored. Carbide just did a rerun of what tombstone did in Battlebots by reaching the finale twice and winning the stuff in the second attempt. I hope they change the format. I was close to shut the stream off cause it was so predictable and boring.
Agreed. This series was a real damp squib. Predictable snoozefests and 1 hit knockouts. Pales in comparison to Series 8. Not a single standout battle this entire series.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Dark-Al on April 16, 2017, 05:22:10 PM: Quote from: Thyrus on April 16, 2017, 04:54:59 PM

I was really bored. Carbide just did a rerun of what tombstone did in Battlebots by reaching the finale twice and winning the stuff in the second attempt. I hope they change the format. I was close to shut the stream off cause it was so predictable and boring.

Yes, there are parallels between Carbide's S9 run and Tombstone's S2 run with both bot being defeated in the Final of the first Reboot series then going to win the next series undefeated, but at least the producers of Metro didn't changed the rules to help Carbide win this series unlike the producers of ABC despite the few scares for both bots in their runs. But still boring if you just want a match to last 3 minutes.
About the Format, it nice to have more battles for mainly entertainment purposes, but just turns a large majority of the later head-to-head rounds into a brutal gauntlet of Spinners heavily dominating the round and just tearing up the whole place, forcing builders to hastily repair their Robots and often forced to go limp into the arena for the next fight hoping to survive the next fight and not make too many major repairs. This reason isn't always the case like watching Episode 2 again when most of the Roboters could make minor repairs and only one team had to make major repairs, but Episodes in Series 9 like EP4 is a prime example of the reason such as with Pulsar for example that had to use the SRIMECH weapon to power the weapon motor or a better example: EP5 with Apollo with the Robot heavily damaged after the first Carbide encounter forcing the team to repair the flipper within the two hours which couldn't slot back into place. When I'm focusing on one team per episode: just both Episodes or watch the entire series and you'll see why.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Thyrus on April 16, 2017, 05:29:19 PM: IMO it would be nice to have a simmilar format like they had in the dutch wars with a loosers melee that allows a beaten bot to come back in. with this they would still have 7 fights in one episode
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Badger on April 16, 2017, 09:11:20 PM: I wish they would just do a double elim bracket, but i guess that's not possible to do in 6 episodes or whatever. There's so much fluff too, I watched the whole 1 hr grand final episode in like 15 minutes by just skipping the padding and getting straight to the fights.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: RedAce on April 17, 2017, 06:57:12 AM: I will give credit to the builders of Carbide for making not only a bot I actually enjoy, but that that also just made a clean sweep through the entire competition. Sadly, it was a pretty underwhelming series as a whole. Production values do seem higher, but there was at least one thing that pissed me off in every episode. It made for a pretty underwhelming final, which is a shame as the Grand Final was probably the only one I enjoyed watching to a certain degree. The Head-to-Head format needs to go .It was a problem last series, and it's now even worse. Replace it with some side competition or something that doesn't result in the builders resulting in giving themselves a huge disadvantage, or forfeiting that gives the replaced teams a disadvantage themselves.

Pretty aggravating series as a whole as the problems I just mentioned don't help with problems going on in my life currently that no one cares about, and I just wanted some escape with something relaxing at this moment in time.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Philippa on April 17, 2017, 07:51:04 AM: Well... I actually liked the Grand Final. :I
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Schrikvis on April 17, 2017, 11:52:20 AM: Really appreciated Carbide protecting Eruption from the house robots, honorable and cute!~ ♥
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: Badger on April 17, 2017, 12:09:23 PM: Quote from: Schrikvis on April 17, 2017, 11:52:20 AM

Really appreciated Carbide protecting Eruption from the house robots, honorable and cute!~ ♥

Yeah, but I was disappointed that they didn't go after the house robots.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series Nine - Episode Discussion
Post by: JoeBlo on April 18, 2017, 01:10:44 AM: Fun grand final, I knew it was going to look like a metal blood bath, the true era of spinners is upon Robot Wars.

As I said before Carbide have that thing so well balanced between destruction and stability, doesnt eat itself up as much as some other spinner robots.

as for the format, I dont mind it but Id rather single elimination and the return of the pinball tournament myself :mrgreen: