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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #120 on: December 29, 2014, 02:26:08 PM »
Not sure that's still a thing. Anyway, you should have posted here: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?board=100.0

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #121 on: January 13, 2015, 02:35:05 PM »
Thinking of changing the ban system on a failed tournament to instead of 3 immediate months of ban, having 3 months of waiting from being ready to move to signups from discussion on that person's next tournament, and people must finish their previous tournament before they can start a new one - expired or not.
Thoughts? Makes the system better in cases where people leave their tournament in the balance for longer than their 3 month ban (eg KOS, Natster)
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #122 on: January 13, 2015, 04:16:54 PM »
Sounds great to me.

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #123 on: January 13, 2015, 04:28:08 PM »
Seconded, sounds fair.

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #124 on: January 13, 2015, 04:50:24 PM »
I might change the 'Previous tournament must be completed' bit though, and make it so the previous tournament only has to be completed if it expired less than a 9 months, essentially giving anyone who doesn't want to complete their last tournament a year before they can start another.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #125 on: January 18, 2015, 10:26:10 AM »
Why don't we have a rule where if a tournament hasnt gotten more than half of the signups needed to begin, they have the right to enact a 7+ day time before deciding whether to shut down the tournament or cut the tournament in half and begin.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #126 on: January 18, 2015, 10:35:44 AM »
Because technically you can change the rules anytime during discussion so it'd be entirely useless?
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #127 on: January 18, 2015, 10:38:44 AM »
And during signups you cannot. I meant entries not votes for the poll.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #128 on: January 18, 2015, 10:48:28 AM »
No - the point of the interest poll is that there is enough interest for the tournament. When you move to signups, it is on your own head. You know how many people have said they are interested and should generally take that with a pinch of salt.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #129 on: January 18, 2015, 11:02:44 AM »
But if people say they would enter and they dont, then what?
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #130 on: January 18, 2015, 12:37:05 PM »
you run the tournament with however many entries you have got

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IMPORTANT CHANGES TO TOURNAMENT RULES - 19th January
« Reply #131 on: January 19, 2015, 09:43:13 AM »
IMPORTANT CHANGES TO TOURNAMENT RULES (19th January 2015):

These are the new rules on tournament bailing, on any tournament which goes into Signups from now.
Tournament Bailing Will NOT Be Accepted

Tournament Bailing will result in a temp ban from starting further competitions for 3 months from the moment your next Discussion topic is ready for signups.
You may not start another Discussion topic for 9 months after the expiry of your previous tournament, unless you complete the expired tournament after expiry (at which point the remainder of the 9 months is removed).
And your Hosting History will also be reduced by 1.

Also, Major League Tournament hosting time has been reduced to 9 months for any tournament that goes into signups from now.
This is due to the fact people do not hold interest for a full year and it is unfair to make them wait so long.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #132 on: January 19, 2015, 12:46:38 PM »
Major League Tournament hosting time has been reduced to 9 months for any tournament that goes into signups from now.
This is due to the fact people do not hold interest for a full year and it is unfair to make them wait so long.

I think it has also been proven numerous times by Max that tournaments with 150+ bots can be run in much less time as long as the host stays focused.


I understand that people have lives outside of GTM, but if you don't have time to finish a tournament, you shouldn't start one.

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #133 on: June 07, 2015, 01:38:39 PM »
With 0 Entry Level tournaments being run, and many Major League tournaments finding themselves dead/abandoned (see: RWS8(pre-yugitom)/RWS9, Hells Arena 2, Clash Cubes Anniversary), I propose we increase the criteria for becoming a Major League from hosting 3 tournaments to 4 or 5.
Alternatively we could add a new 'League' in the middle which allows more competitors and time than Entry Level but less time than the 9 month Major League tournaments.
I'd appreciate people's thoughts. :)


Also, as a sidenote, G.K. is resuming Tournament Moderator duties so feel free to send your tournament moving requests to the both of us and whoever gets there first can deal with your request :)
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #134 on: June 07, 2015, 01:46:37 PM »
With 0 Entry Level tournaments being run, and many Major League tournaments finding themselves dead/abandoned (see: RWS8(pre-yugitom)/RWS9, Hells Arena 2, Clash Cubes Anniversary), I propose we increase the criteria for becoming a Major League from hosting 3 tournaments to 4 or 5.
so basically you are suggesting that we make it harder for new people to become major league hosts because of how people that are already major league hosts messed up (all those tournies you listed would have still been considered major league tournies under the new rules you are suggesting).
so yeah i don't get the point of this at all.

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #135 on: June 07, 2015, 01:48:59 PM »
What about the other suggestion which you ignored? :P
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #136 on: June 07, 2015, 01:52:38 PM »
I disagree, i think we should keep it as it is, joeblo and freeziez (iirc) disappeared, and jonzu and badnik were just being lazy, and if they keep on doing this they will lose their major league status anyway. I think it may discourage some people if we make it harder to become a major league host.

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #137 on: June 07, 2015, 01:58:05 PM »
What about the other suggestion which you ignored? :P
i assume you are saying there would be a new league added if major league is increased, which is still pointless and unnecessary for such a small community. 

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #138 on: June 07, 2015, 02:01:54 PM »
I disagree, i think we should keep it as it is, joeblo and freeziez (iirc) disappeared, and jonzu and badnik were just being lazy, and if they keep on doing this they will lose their major league status anyway. I think it may discourage some people if we make it harder to become a major league host.
I actually agree. I think it was just coincidental that these tournaments failed and it was the host's fault, not the difficulty of hosting a major league tournament itself.

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #139 on: June 07, 2015, 04:12:11 PM »
I disagree, i think we should keep it as it is, joeblo and freeziez (iirc) disappeared, and jonzu and badnik were just being lazy, and if they keep on doing this they will lose their major league status anyway. I think it may discourage some people if we make it harder to become a major league host.

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