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Title: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on July 17, 2017, 04:44:17 PM
Once again, I'm putting no copyright on this thing. Feel free to rip off, copy, ect.

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So... Where'd I mess up?
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Avalanche on July 17, 2017, 05:24:37 PM
BADGER. YOU KNOW WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.

I would appreciate instead of doing a "entrant chooses their team" system, you did a draft system, maybe with one person picking a member at a time?

Also, it would be cool if instead of using your robots as spare robots, you used entrants from the original LvD. Just to remove literally all bias possible.

Oh, and I don't think the Robogames arena is good for flippers unless there is no roof, because the gap between the wall and plexiglass won't allow robots to fall in.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: FightingBotInformal on July 17, 2017, 05:28:46 PM
BADGER. YOU KNOW WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
Please don't prompt him to do it again Ava...especially since you were the one that started the "thREEEEE bursts" flame war in the first place. Apologies for what seems like I'm blaming you, but it's the truth.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Philippa on July 17, 2017, 05:50:57 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and re enter Grindr for this. Or a variant thereof.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Gulden on July 17, 2017, 05:57:13 PM
I would appreciate instead of doing a "entrant chooses their team" system, you did a draft system, maybe with one person picking a member at a time?
There are other tournaments.  My format is choose your own adventure.  Mr As and Thracker did it as you requested in their LvDs.
Also, it would be cool if instead of using your robots as spare robots, you used entrants from the original LvD. Just to remove literally all bias possible.
Then who wouldn't choose Paladin?  And if people just re-enter their robots, we'd have doubles.
Oh, and I don't think the Robogames arena is good for flippers unless there is no roof, because the gap between the wall and plexiglass won't allow robots to fall in.
On the contrary, you can see in the preview that Flipster had OOTAed BBS.
I'm gonna go ahead and re enter Grindr for this. Or a variant thereof.
I have no Objections unless I decide to conform to Avalanche's will.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Avalanche on July 17, 2017, 06:02:40 PM
BADGER. YOU KNOW WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
Please don't prompt him to do it again Ava...especially since you were the one that started the "thREEEEE bursts" flame war in the first place. Apologies for what seems like I'm blaming you, but it's the truth.

I need my vengeance.

I would appreciate instead of doing a "entrant chooses their team" system, you did a draft system, maybe with one person picking a member at a time?
There are other tournaments.  My format is choose your own adventure.  Mr As and Thracker did it as you requested in their LvDs.
Also, it would be cool if instead of using your robots as spare robots, you used entrants from the original LvD. Just to remove literally all bias possible.
Then who wouldn't choose Paladin?  And if people just re-enter their robots, we'd have doubles.


A: Just because somebody did it that way, doesn't mean you can't do it that way. Also the method you have right now is quite frankly sh** as by sheer luck one team can be blessed with all the 3 burst / ridiculously powerful flippers of any amount of bursts (if you allow them) and the other team can be left with none. A draft at least allows the captains to tactically split apart OP robots and replaces luck with strategic choice.

B: Ban re-entries and choose a small pool of robots that do not have sequels entered in the tournament, maybe?
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Badger on July 17, 2017, 06:07:10 PM
Sure, I'm up for this
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Avalanche on July 17, 2017, 06:18:48 PM
"I'll have 1 Havok Restart per match.  If a second occurs, the culprit of the explosion will be DQed."

Problem:

Robot A rips off an flail from Robot B. Robot B havoks.
Single Havok Restart used up.
Robot B rips off a flail from Robot A. Robot A is the culprit. Robot A is DQ'd despite having the same number of Havoks as Robot B.

Replacement rule: If a robot havoks twice (and both times it is certainyl its fault) in a match, they will be disqualified.

Also, I'm going to request a limit on flipper power. I just don't think it's fair for a flipper to be able to send people into the ceiling or flip people OOTA from the middle of the arena. I'm all for competition, but it's just not fun or fair to have a robot able to ****ing curbstomp opponents like that, and it's arguably not very realistic either: but even if it was, it's a game that will never be a perfect simulation of real life.

If this rule isn't implemented, I'll probably be sending in a BS flipper because it's either that or getting sh**canned by a BS flipper.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Mr. AS on July 17, 2017, 06:34:57 PM
Flippers wouldn't be a problem if you used an arena with high walls (like I did for LvD2) or allowed SNS.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Gulden on July 17, 2017, 06:37:02 PM
"I'll have 1 Havok Restart per match.  If a second occurs, the culprit of the explosion will be DQed."

Problem:

Robot A rips off an flail from Robot B. Robot B havoks.
Single Havok Restart used up.
Robot B rips off a flail from Robot A. Robot A is the culprit. Robot A is DQ'd despite having the same number of Havoks as Robot B.

Replacement rule: If a robot havoks twice (and both times it is certainyl its fault) in a match, they will be disqualified.
Good point.

Also, I'm going to request a limit on flipper power. I just don't think it's fair for a flipper to be able to send people into the ceiling or flip people OOTA from the middle of the arena. I'm all for competition, but it's just not fun or fair to have a robot able to ****ing curbstomp opponents like that, and it's arguably not very realistic either: but even if it was, it's a game that will never be a perfect simulation of real life.

If this rule isn't implemented, I'll probably be sending in a BS flipper because it's either that or getting sh**canned by a BS flipper.
You're trying to what Robot Wars are doing to spinners, but with flippers.
Besides, If Wheely Big Cheese could toss a robot halfway across the arena, anyone can.

P.S.  Why are you only doing this to me and not in other tournaments?  :ermm:
It's really easy for me to snap under pressure...

I would appreciate instead of doing a "entrant chooses their team" system, you did a draft system, maybe with one person picking a member at a time?
There are other tournaments.  My format is choose your own adventure.  Mr As and Thracker did it as you requested in their LvDs.
Also, it would be cool if instead of using your robots as spare robots, you used entrants from the original LvD. Just to remove literally all bias possible.
Then who wouldn't choose Paladin?  And if people just re-enter their robots, we'd have doubles.


A: Just because somebody did it that way, doesn't mean you can't do it that way. Also the method you have right now is quite frankly sh** as by sheer luck one team can be blessed with all the 3 burst / ridiculously powerful flippers of any amount of bursts (if you allow them) and the other team can be left with none. A draft at least allows the captains to tactically split apart OP robots and replaces luck with strategic choice.
Can't stop what I enjoy.
B: Ban re-entries and choose a small pool of robots that do not have sequels entered in the tournament, maybe?
As cool as it is, it would bring up a lot of problems.  Such as if someone clones of Lost Cause.  Do I count it as a Grindr ripoff?
Besides... You act like we're gonna need Spare robots...
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Avalanche on July 17, 2017, 07:07:05 PM
"I'll have 1 Havok Restart per match.  If a second occurs, the culprit of the explosion will be DQed."

Problem:

Robot A rips off an flail from Robot B. Robot B havoks.
Single Havok Restart used up.
Robot B rips off a flail from Robot A. Robot A is the culprit. Robot A is DQ'd despite having the same number of Havoks as Robot B.

Replacement rule: If a robot havoks twice (and both times it is certainyl its fault) in a match, they will be disqualified.
Good point.

Also, I'm going to request a limit on flipper power. I just don't think it's fair for a flipper to be able to send people into the ceiling or flip people OOTA from the middle of the arena. I'm all for competition, but it's just not fun or fair to have a robot able to ****ing curbstomp opponents like that, and it's arguably not very realistic either: but even if it was, it's a game that will never be a perfect simulation of real life.

If this rule isn't implemented, I'll probably be sending in a BS flipper because it's either that or getting sh**canned by a BS flipper.
You're trying to what Robot Wars are doing to spinners, but with flippers.
Besides, If Wheely Big Cheese could toss a robot halfway across the arena, anyone can.

P.S.  Why are you only doing this to me and not in other tournaments?  :ermm:
It's really easy for me to snap under pressure...

I would appreciate instead of doing a "entrant chooses their team" system, you did a draft system, maybe with one person picking a member at a time?
There are other tournaments.  My format is choose your own adventure.  Mr As and Thracker did it as you requested in their LvDs.
Also, it would be cool if instead of using your robots as spare robots, you used entrants from the original LvD. Just to remove literally all bias possible.
Then who wouldn't choose Paladin?  And if people just re-enter their robots, we'd have doubles.


A: Just because somebody did it that way, doesn't mean you can't do it that way. Also the method you have right now is quite frankly sh** as by sheer luck one team can be blessed with all the 3 burst / ridiculously powerful flippers of any amount of bursts (if you allow them) and the other team can be left with none. A draft at least allows the captains to tactically split apart OP robots and replaces luck with strategic choice.
Can't stop what I enjoy.
B: Ban re-entries and choose a small pool of robots that do not have sequels entered in the tournament, maybe?
As cool as it is, it would bring up a lot of problems.  Such as if someone clones of Lost Cause.  Do I count it as a Grindr ripoff?
Besides... You act like we're gonna need Spare robots...

Firstly, WBC only did that with illegal pre-filled bottles with nitrogen at higher pressure than allowed. They only ever did it once.

And actually RW stacked the deck in favor of spinners by retaining an active weapon rule, plus putting a sh**load of spinners in, and not really having any spinner killers outside of Foxic and Wyrm. I mean, did you even watch S9?

Finally, do you want half the field to be overpowered flippers that send robots into the ceiling with every flip? Because that's what you are going to get unless you prevent Paladin/Aether Paradise/Delta levels of power from being accepted.

Also, you're sticking to a sh** team system that is going to make the tournament worse. Why? You're making a sequel to a tournament, why not improve what was clearly bad about the tournament?
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: jdg37 on July 17, 2017, 07:20:42 PM
Hey good thing I "less-suckified" BBS into Bloody Big Saw. Guess I'll do some more testing to decide if he should enter or not.  Orherwise Loggerhead gets a revamp.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: NeonCalypso on July 17, 2017, 07:27:59 PM
Can't wait for some more drama over a 14-year old game about fighting robots.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Badger on July 17, 2017, 07:29:15 PM
I prefer the 'pick a team' system to the drafting system. The drafting system used on LvD2 just turned the tournament into britbongs vs amerifats only sh**tier.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Gulden on July 17, 2017, 07:31:14 PM
Removing the giant quote thing
Firstly, WBC only did that with illegal pre-filled bottles with nitrogen at higher pressure than allowed. They only ever did it once.
Hm... learn something new every day...
And actually RW stacked the deck in favor of spinners by retaining an active weapon rule, plus putting a sh**load of spinners in, and not really having any spinner killers outside of Foxic and Wyrm. I mean, did you even watch S9?
Check section 14.2 (http://www.robotwars.tv/media/1462/robot-wars-build-rules-v3-3.pdf)
Finally, do you want half the field to be overpowered flippers that send robots into the ceiling with every flip? Because that's what you are going to get unless you prevent Paladin/Aether Paradise/Delta levels of power from being accepted.
Half the field last time were lackluster Hammers...  I'm open for a change...  Besides, you don't decide what bots people make.  I'm half expecting a couple of drum bots, tbh.
Also, you're sticking to a sh** team system that is going to make the tournament worse. Why? You're making a sequel to a tournament, why not improve what was clearly bad about the tournament?
Cus This moment (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=19675.msg722789#msg722789) was adorable.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: TheRoboteer on July 17, 2017, 07:35:57 PM
The thing about WBC using nitrogen is nothing but a rumour. A believable one, and one that could potentially be true, but there's zero evidence for it other than people taking somewhat educated guesses.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: kix on July 18, 2017, 08:16:01 AM
Either Flipster (teh red one, not the one i hate) , or Duke 2
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Avalanche on July 18, 2017, 11:28:39 AM
Removing the giant quote thing
Firstly, WBC only did that with illegal pre-filled bottles with nitrogen at higher pressure than allowed. They only ever did it once.
Hm... learn something new every day...
And actually RW stacked the deck in favor of spinners by retaining an active weapon rule, plus putting a sh**load of spinners in, and not really having any spinner killers outside of Foxic and Wyrm. I mean, did you even watch S9?
Check section 14.2 (http://www.robotwars.tv/media/1462/robot-wars-build-rules-v3-3.pdf)
Finally, do you want half the field to be overpowered flippers that send robots into the ceiling with every flip? Because that's what you are going to get unless you prevent Paladin/Aether Paradise/Delta levels of power from being accepted.
Half the field last time were lackluster Hammers...  I'm open for a change...  Besides, you don't decide what bots people make.  I'm half expecting a couple of drum bots, tbh.
Also, you're sticking to a sh** team system that is going to make the tournament worse. Why? You're making a sequel to a tournament, why not improve what was clearly bad about the tournament?
Cus This moment (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=19675.msg722789#msg722789) was adorable.

Sigh.

A: That's for S10. I referred to S9. And "All robots must incorporate an active offensive weapon which is designed to damage, immobilise or seriously affect the operation of the opponent’s robot. Weapon specifications must be included on your application form for approval. No additional or major changes to weaponry will be allowed during the event." Also entanglement is not a proven way of beating a spinner, but a spinner killer wedge is: but the active weapon rule prevents this.

B: "Half the field last time were lackluster Hammers...  I'm open for a change...  Besides, you don't decide what bots people make.  I'm half expecting a couple of drum bots, tbh." No. 5/16 were hammers: Mecha Hitler, Hammerhead, Axe Questions Later, Dragoon and Killshot. Mecha was actually a hybrid, as well. And, to be honest, the only lackluster robots were AQL and Killshot. We ended up having 4 Horizontal spinners, 2 sawblades, 1 eggbeater, 2 flipper and 1 rammer. That's not half the field being hammers.

C: That's not a good reason. Team Dark ended up with no flipper and no robot that could efficiently take on Paladin. If it was a draft system, I/Demon could have taken Flipster, Solaris and other invertible robots etc. to take on Paladin.

I prefer the 'pick a team' system to the drafting system. The drafting system used on LvD2 just turned the tournament into britbongs vs amerifats only sh**tier.

A draft allows for tactical decisions that would not be possible under the pick a team system and in theory prevents unbalanced teams: and even if it doesn't fully prevent them, it does work to at least limit the likelihood of unbalancing teams. It's either pure luck or strategy.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Philippa on July 18, 2017, 04:54:08 PM
Idea: Ban Avalanche from the tournament so he'll finally shut the **** up?
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Avalanche on July 18, 2017, 05:05:01 PM
Idea: Ban Avalanche from the tournament so he'll finally shut the **** up?

I'm trying to improve the tournament by pointing out rules and systems that don't make sense. You are just flaming.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: 09090901 on July 18, 2017, 06:16:48 PM
While I disagree with pretty much everything Ava is saying, he still has a right to voice his opinion. Save the flames for the SBV.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: kix on July 19, 2017, 05:05:25 AM
Idea: Ban Avalanche from the tournament so he'll finally shut the **** up?

I'm trying to improve the tournament by pointing out rules and systems that don't make sense. You are just flaming.

But... But you said GTM live was the last tournament you'll enter
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Avalanche on July 19, 2017, 06:35:47 AM
Idea: Ban Avalanche from the tournament so he'll finally shut the **** up?

I'm trying to improve the tournament by pointing out rules and systems that don't make sense. You are just flaming.

But... But you said GTM live was the last tournament you'll enter

A: That was said in the Robogames SBV.

B: That was before this tournament was announced.

C: That doesn't invalidate any of my criticism.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: playzooki on July 19, 2017, 10:58:06 AM
Idea: Ban Avalanche from the tournament so he'll finally shut the **** up?
this is a fantastic suggestion, i would like this to happen and encourage guldenflame to do so.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Gulden on July 19, 2017, 11:11:41 AM
Idea: Ban Avalanche from the tournament so he'll finally shut the **** up?
I honestly don't mind Avalanche.  Besides, he'd do quite the opposite of shutting up if I were to ban him.
Anyway, if these are the only rules that'll be suggested then the sign-up phase will be coming soon.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: 09090901 on July 20, 2017, 01:09:53 PM
Once again, I'm putting no copyright on this thing. Feel free to rip off, copy, ect.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/17628Logo.gif)


So... Where'd I mess up?
This is now a sign-ups topic, rules quoted cannot change. You have 4 months.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on July 20, 2017, 05:40:12 PM
TGM is first.
The Roboteer is second

Denying Playzooki.

I can't wait to see what everyone else is preparing.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on July 21, 2017, 09:48:05 PM
Just to note as this has been a recurring problem (for some reason), I don't have Rob's Black wedges.
Use DCS's instead.

Such and issue was held with jdg37, however, the robot is now accepted.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on July 25, 2017, 11:07:25 AM
Just a note for the future, for Wednesday-Sunday, I'll be dead.
I've hired a retributionist, but they say it'll be a while before they can revive me, so I'll be gone for a little while.

So don't go nuts when I don't respond to entries.

Edit: Dying now.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on July 30, 2017, 01:01:26 PM
Alright, I'm back.
Fun fact: Christianity is apparently the true religion...

Anyway... Sadly, all that happened was the denial of Kaiser112183
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on July 31, 2017, 10:27:57 AM
RedAce has entered the vicinity.
Botomatic Follows
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on August 11, 2017, 09:49:36 AM
Mystic and TheOrcCorp joined in.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on August 11, 2017, 08:50:47 PM
Doot has joined.  We're half way there.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on August 25, 2017, 10:12:33 PM
Neon Calypso Bumps the tournament.

Also note that one of the bye bots has fallen victim to AGOD so it will be removed.

Getting near the end... Looks around impatiently for Avalanche
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on August 30, 2017, 11:34:45 AM
Kaiser112183 and Badger Join.  And with This, Team Dark has filled up on entries, meaning all remaining entries are forced to join Team Light.

Teams are also now revealed.
Seems this time, entries were a little more 1 sided.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on August 30, 2017, 11:54:18 AM
Team Light has their work cut out for them: Bad Dreams, Flipster and Koros.

And I have to (as I will enter, if only to exact vengeance upon Badger) join the same team as TR and TheOrcCorp.

This is going to ****ing suck.

As for what robot i'll build, here's a hint:
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: TheOrcCorp on August 30, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
Team Light has their work cut out for them: Bad Dreams, Flipster and Koros.

And I have to (as I will enter, if only to exact vengeance upon Badger) join the same team as TR and TheOrcCorp.

This is going to ****ing suck.

As for what robot i'll build, here's a hint:
No one is forcing you to join anybody. If your hatred for us is that strong, either grow up and put it aside/get over it or don't join at all. Simple.

In any case, I agree with Ava's point, lots of mean robots on the other side...especially Koros, it's pretty damn powerful! Looking forward to progression of this though!  :smile:
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: kix on August 30, 2017, 01:09:24 PM
Just noticed that my bot (older one) makes a cameo appearance in the arena section!
Well.. This time. I will do an OOTA!
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on August 30, 2017, 01:53:55 PM
Just noticed that my bot (older one) makes a cameo appearance in the arena section!
Well.. This time. I will do an OOTA!

>RG arena

>OOTA

I wouldn't put your money on it. The height that 3 burst flippers get mean its likely you'll bounce your opponent off the outer wall. You'll probably win a good few judge's decisions tho.

Team Light has their work cut out for them: Bad Dreams, Flipster and Koros.

And I have to (as I will enter, if only to exact vengeance upon Badger) join the same team as TR and TheOrcCorp.

This is going to ****ing suck.

As for what robot i'll build, here's a hint:
No one is forcing you to join anybody. If your hatred for us is that strong, either grow up and put it aside/get over it or don't join at all. Simple.

In any case, I agree with Ava's point, lots of mean robots on the other side...especially Koros, it's pretty damn powerful! Looking forward to progression of this though!  :smile:

Eh. I worked with Baconus last time, I'm sure I can work with you two for one last occasion. We (read: I) can settle it after we win with a grudge match.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: FightingBotInformal on August 30, 2017, 02:09:25 PM
yo the both of you (ava and orc) should just ****ing chill

first off avalanche, calm down, ik you got kicked from the "super-secret" AHOL discord...so did I. I get your intentions but you don't have to take it to a whole new level though
orc...avalanche is just being himself. you just have to deal with it
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on August 30, 2017, 02:10:50 PM
yo the both of you (ava and orc) should just ****ing chill

first off avalanche, calm down, ik you got kicked from the "super-secret" AHOL discord...so did I. I get your intentions but you don't have to take it to a whole new level though
orc...avalanche is just being himself. you just have to deal with it

oi build a robot for this tournament
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: FightingBotInformal on August 30, 2017, 02:16:07 PM
yo the both of you (ava and orc) should just ****ing chill

first off avalanche, calm down, ik you got kicked from the "super-secret" AHOL discord...so did I. I get your intentions but you don't have to take it to a whole new level though
orc...avalanche is just being himself. you just have to deal with it

oi build a robot for this tournament
just want you to calm down...
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: TheOrcCorp on August 30, 2017, 02:19:16 PM
yo the both of you (ava and orc) should just ****ing chill

first off avalanche, calm down, ik you got kicked from the "super-secret" AHOL discord...so did I. I get your intentions but you don't have to take it to a whole new level though
orc...avalanche is just being himself. you just have to deal with it

Perfectly chilled, thank you FBI. I'm looking forward to this tourney and was going to comment about the teams anyway. Just so happened Ava was adding unneeded comments. :P That's all I'm going to say about it as we should get back on topic out of respect for Gulden and everyone else. If you chaps wish to talk about things elsewhere, then we can do that so we don't annoy everyone.  :smile:

Anyway, yes FBI, build a robot and join Team Light. We need more people on our side!  ;)
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on August 31, 2017, 01:12:26 PM
Shield Enters.  4 Spots left.

Dumb predictions:  They'll be 09 Ava FBI and Kurt
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Shield on August 31, 2017, 01:18:43 PM
Shield Enters.  4 Spots left.

Dumb predictions:  They'll be 09 Ava FBI and Kurt

what if you reserve a spot for asbestosstar
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch
Post by: Philippa on August 31, 2017, 02:32:21 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and re enter Grindr for this. Or a variant thereof.
It was a variant thereof.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: FightingBotInformal on August 31, 2017, 03:35:13 PM
4 Spots left.

Dumb predictions:  They'll be 09 Ava FBI and Kurt
Who called? Might make a bot very soon, but I haven't gotten the hang of DSC's extenders yet.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on August 31, 2017, 06:01:57 PM
09 said in the Discord he's made Mecha Hitler 2. It's just mecha hitler with more armour and 2 hammer arms instead of a saw/hammer.

:really_makes_you_think:

also Kurt's probably gonna take a spot in Team Light as he's showcased his robot.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on August 31, 2017, 06:50:15 PM
I just received stuff from Jamied, Kurt, DSC, Avalanche, and 09.
However, I'm not in a position to check them at this time.
Oh boy...
There's some talk about expanding the team's right now.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on August 31, 2017, 08:46:43 PM
Alright, now is everyone's time to Panic!

While Jamied, 09, and DSC are accepted
Kurt and Avalanche have both been denied.  Whoo boy!

Also, Badger and Shield updated
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on August 31, 2017, 08:53:26 PM
AND MR AS SWIPES IT!

So unless we get a huge uproar of people begging for more entries.  Sign-ups are over.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Shield on August 31, 2017, 09:29:13 PM
wait you got my second/updated bot right

the one that isnt the first one i sent you
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on August 31, 2017, 09:59:30 PM
wait you got my second/updated bot right

the one that isnt the first one i sent you
Yeah I got it, just been busy AIing and haven't updated the OP
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on September 01, 2017, 12:38:28 AM
All robots are now AIed.

Such a shame Ava couldn't join.
Fine and Kurt too...

SBV thread will come sometime tomorrow.

Good luck participants.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on September 01, 2017, 02:41:50 AM
All robots are now AIed.

Such a shame Ava couldn't join.
Fine and Kurt too...

SBV thread will come sometime tomorrow.

Good luck participants.

"So unless we get a huge uproar of people begging for more entries.  Sign-ups are over."

What about if Kurt and I get fixed robots in before you upload the SBV? Then, you would have 2 more robots which would be enough to extend the team sizes.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Philippa on September 01, 2017, 03:48:39 AM
Fine and Kurt too...
I don't like the cut of your jib.

Also, given that I sent a solution that doesn't involve changing the robot but rather how you use it, that means if it works I should get my place back right?
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on September 01, 2017, 03:59:56 AM
Fine and Kurt too...
I don't like the cut of your jib.

Also, given that I sent a solution that doesn't involve changing the robot but rather how you use it, that means if it works I should get my place back right?

worst case scenario, just send in the old grindr so that we have at least 2 people who want to join, giving gulden a reason to increase the team sizes
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: FightingBotInformal on September 01, 2017, 05:56:47 AM
Aw, this happened while I was gone yesterday? And I was just about to make a robot.
All I can say is: ****.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on September 01, 2017, 06:10:02 AM
Aw, this happened while I was gone yesterday? And I was just about to make a robot.
All I can say is: ****.
You could still build a robot and see if Gulden can extend the team size.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: kix on September 01, 2017, 07:03:29 AM
Just add Two more spots (one per team)
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: doot on September 01, 2017, 07:10:43 AM
Just go forth anyway. If they missed the spots that were set, then tough ****in' tits. They had just as much a chance to enter and if they missed it, they missed it. No need to expand upon the tournament unnecessarily.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: dragonsteincole on September 01, 2017, 07:43:44 AM
I have to agree with Doot. People had a month and a half to make a bot and enter. Kurt has some benefit of the doubt as he has a tournament running which is a time-consuming process, lra2 has no excuse.

Ultimately it is Gulden's decision to make, but he should not have to accommodate for those who were more bothered about arguing about the tourney, than making an actual bot for it and not waiting until last minute to do so.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: WeN on September 01, 2017, 07:46:31 AM
I had to agree with doot and DSC too.

It's your choice Gulden, add space for team or whatever else, if they missed a sign up and/or they miss to send bot.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Philippa on September 01, 2017, 07:54:56 AM
My bot has AGOD which is why I got rejected, I just said that pause/break/whatever before a fight would fix that, so nothing has actually changed with my robot. Just saying.

Also I'm not saying that the teams should be extended so don't lump me in the same bracket with LRA2 getting salty because the two of us lost our spots. That's his beef, not mine.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: dragonsteincole on September 01, 2017, 08:01:32 AM
I definitely made mention of you to separate you from lra2. You haven't posted multiple times in this thread alone bitching about various details and such, and like I said before you have been running Masters of Disaster, so sorry for putting you in the same boat.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on September 01, 2017, 09:31:44 AM
A: At max 4 extra robots isn't suddenly going to be the straw that broke the camels back. Gulden can run that fine. I have faith.

B: Normally rejected bots get a week to update: I didn't: hell, I (and in turn, Kurt) was (were) told my robot was rejected at 2am: I was entirely unable to update my robot in time.

C: I haven't had motivation and inspiration to build for quite some time now, so I haven't been able to build a robot and enter.

D: Gulden was the one who suggested giving more Team size. It's his idea originally, not sure why you all seem to be whinging about me.

E: I wasn't "bitching" DSC, I was actively suggesting how to make the tournament better, you GREEDY MALICIOUS BASTARD.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on September 01, 2017, 10:16:41 AM
it's not a guldenflame tourney without at least 1 flame war  :beer:

some sh** nobody cares about
try sending a bot within the weight limit next time tbh
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Thyrus on September 01, 2017, 11:23:35 AM
*And start do grow up and stop using authism as excuse for behaving like you often do. I know you can be a decent person but you overreact most of the time.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on September 01, 2017, 11:31:59 AM
Also, given that I sent a solution that doesn't involve changing the robot but rather how you use it, that means if it works I should get my place back right?
My bot has AGOD which is why I got rejected, I just said that pause/break/whatever before a fight would fix that, so nothing has actually changed with my robot. Just saying.

Also I'm not saying that the teams should be extended so don't lump me in the same bracket with LRA2 getting salty because the two of us lost our spots. That's his beef, not mine.
This doesn't work, so unless I just don't understand it, your bot won't make it in.  And if that bot doesn't make it in, Team extensions aren't looking very possible...

it's not a guldenflame tourney without at least 1 flame war  :beer:
Sadly, can't disagree...  Why does this keep happening?
some sh** nobody cares about
try sending a bot within the weight limit next time tbh
I think he sent a bot that was before a weight increase in a component in one of DCS's packs...  I'm not positive, though...
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on September 01, 2017, 11:35:16 AM
*And start do grow up and stop using authism as excuse for behaving like you often do. I know you can be a decent person but you overreact most of the time.

since when have i used that (recently)

Also, given that I sent a solution that doesn't involve changing the robot but rather how you use it, that means if it works I should get my place back right?
My bot has AGOD which is why I got rejected, I just said that pause/break/whatever before a fight would fix that, so nothing has actually changed with my robot. Just saying.

Also I'm not saying that the teams should be extended so don't lump me in the same bracket with LRA2 getting salty because the two of us lost our spots. That's his beef, not mine.
This doesn't work, so unless I just don't understand it, your bot won't make it in.  And if that bot doesn't make it in, Team extensions aren't looking very possible...


Oh? What's that? The suggestion of team extensions being acknowledged and approved?

Huh, turns out I was right.

Anyways, Kurt pls send nu robutt for team expand
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Philippa on September 01, 2017, 12:33:45 PM
Turns out my case of AGOD is unfixable so I'm cool with it not getting in.

Anyways, Kurt
No.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on September 01, 2017, 12:41:06 PM
Turns out my case of AGOD is unfixable so I'm cool with it not getting in.

Anyways, Kurt
No.

You have the chance to enter. Why not? If it's just to prevent me from getting a team extension then that's so incredibly petty it's just plain sad.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Philippa on September 01, 2017, 12:48:10 PM
And if that bot [Grindr Xtra] doesn't make it in, Team extensions aren't looking very possible...
Everyone else has said you had plenty of time to make and enter a legal robot. Let it go.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: F1Krazy on September 01, 2017, 12:56:27 PM
If Guldenflame's willing to accept it, I'm willing to enter a bot to make up the extra slot along with Ava. I already have a couple of bots I could send over.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Jammy Dodger on September 01, 2017, 12:58:12 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/93929stfu ava.png)
nice meme
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: botomatic1000 on September 01, 2017, 01:01:33 PM
Mmmmmm I can smell Scot trying to stir the drama up like a hurricane. Bon Appétit
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: doot on September 01, 2017, 01:15:32 PM
Turns out my case of AGOD is unfixable so I'm cool with it not getting in.

Anyways, Kurt
No.

You have the chance to enter. Why not? If it's just to prevent me from getting a team extension then that's so incredibly petty it's just plain sad.
Oh my goodness, just give it the **** up already!
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on September 01, 2017, 01:32:55 PM
If Guldenflame's willing to accept it, I'm willing to enter a bot to make up the extra slot along with Ava. I already have a couple of bots I could send over.
As of now I'm hoping on this...

Unless that happens, my only option is to keep Ava out, or give him the spot that somebody is willing to give him.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: jdg37 on September 01, 2017, 01:36:22 PM
I'm having flashbacks to college from all this last minute submission drama.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Philippa on September 01, 2017, 01:37:04 PM
If Guldenflame's willing to accept it, I'm willing to enter a bot to make up the extra slot along with Ava. I already have a couple of bots I could send over.
As of now I'm hoping on this...

Unless that happens, my only option is to keep Ava out, or give him the spot that somebody is willing to give him.
Or stick to the 16 robot rules, reject the illegal robot, then host the tournament like literally any other person.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: doot on September 01, 2017, 01:45:45 PM
If Guldenflame's willing to accept it, I'm willing to enter a bot to make up the extra slot along with Ava. I already have a couple of bots I could send over.
As of now I'm hoping on this...

Unless that happens, my only option is to keep Ava out, or give him the spot that somebody is willing to give him.
Or stick to the 16 robot rules, reject the illegal robot, then host the tournament like literally any other person.
I agree. There is no reason to unnecessarily hold up a tournament over someone who is having a bloody tantrum (not you, kurt <3) so lets get this tournament into the SBV already!
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: botomatic1000 on September 01, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
If he's gonna carry on with this just give him my spot, I don't even care to be completely honest just if it shuts him up
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Shield on September 01, 2017, 01:49:55 PM
If Guldenflame's willing to accept it, I'm willing to enter a bot to make up the extra slot along with Ava. I already have a couple of bots I could send over.
As of now I'm hoping on this...

Unless that happens, my only option is to keep Ava out, or give him the spot that somebody is willing to give him.
Or stick to the 16 robot rules, reject the illegal robot, then host the tournament like literally any other person.
I agree. There is no reason to unnecessarily hold up a tournament over someone who is having a bloody tantrum (not you, kurt <3) so lets get this tournament into the SBV already!

this tbh

a deadline is a deadline. he had his chance and he missed it.

If he's gonna carry on with this just give him my spot, I don't even care to be completely honest just if it shuts him up

lol no just carry on as is
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Gulden on September 01, 2017, 01:51:10 PM
I think you've all made your point clear...
As much as I want Ava in this tournament, I'll have to give up on him.  Sorry mate.

Sign-ups are gonna be officially over now.  Remember you can update up until the splash goes up.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on September 01, 2017, 02:07:35 PM
I think you've all made your point clear...
As much as I want Ava in this tournament, I'll have to give up on him.  Sorry mate.

Sign-ups are gonna be officially over now.  Remember you can update up until the splash goes up.

F1 is literally just about to send an entry. Why flake out now, other than just to end the flame war? You can solve this situation just as easily (hell, allowing F1 will put the argument to bed flat out, but disallowing me even though F1 is readying a robot right now is going worsen the entire situation.) by waiting at most a few hours, at worst a day to allow him to pick/modify a robot to send.

If he's gonna carry on with this just give him my spot, I don't even care to be completely honest just if it shuts him up

I'll take you up on this offer if Gulden isn't willing to wait for F1 to send a robot.

If Guldenflame's willing to accept it, I'm willing to enter a bot to make up the extra slot along with Ava. I already have a couple of bots I could send over.
As of now I'm hoping on this...

Unless that happens, my only option is to keep Ava out, or give him the spot that somebody is willing to give him.
Or stick to the 16 robot rules, reject the illegal robot, then host the tournament like literally any other person.
I agree. There is no reason to unnecessarily hold up a tournament over someone who is having a bloody tantrum (not you, kurt <3) so lets get this tournament into the SBV already!

this tbh

a deadline is a deadline. he had his chance and he missed it.

If he's gonna carry on with this just give him my spot, I don't even care to be completely honest just if it shuts him up

lol no just carry on as is

If Guldenflame's willing to accept it, I'm willing to enter a bot to make up the extra slot along with Ava. I already have a couple of bots I could send over.
As of now I'm hoping on this...

Unless that happens, my only option is to keep Ava out, or give him the spot that somebody is willing to give him.
Or stick to the 16 robot rules, reject the illegal robot, then host the tournament like literally any other person.
I agree. There is no reason to unnecessarily hold up a tournament over someone who is having a bloody tantrum (not you, kurt <3) so lets get this tournament into the SBV already!

If Guldenflame's willing to accept it, I'm willing to enter a bot to make up the extra slot along with Ava. I already have a couple of bots I could send over.
As of now I'm hoping on this...

Unless that happens, my only option is to keep Ava out, or give him the spot that somebody is willing to give him.
Or stick to the 16 robot rules, reject the illegal robot, then host the tournament like literally any other person.

There was literally no point to this wave of flames. F1 said he had a few robots he could send, Gulden had byebots if things got REALLY desperate, what was the ****ing point?

How does allowing 2 more robots than originally planned into the tournament stall it completely? It was literally a day between the original signups and bots being prepared for an extension. It wasn't holding up the tournament by a dramatic amount of time.

Gulden himself was the one who brought up expanding the teams, I was backing up the host while you all decided to hijack the tournament, turn it into another bloody flamewar all just to prevent me from joining a tournament.

Frankly, if anything you lot were being worse for this tournament than I ever was by fighting so hard just to close me out of the tournament.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: FightingBotInformal on September 01, 2017, 02:11:26 PM
unneccessary flame wall
ugh....
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on September 01, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
some more sh** nobody cares about
ugh....
yep

Just let Guldenflame run his tourney, not like LvD:R is going to be the last RA2 tournament ever.
Title: Re: [DSL HW-IRL] Light vs Dark: Rematch - Signups
Post by: cephalopod on September 01, 2017, 06:57:00 PM
What Kurt said.