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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #80 on: May 10, 2017, 03:26:18 PM »
IIRC the 1.4 patch of RA2 that most people use comes with Mad's Smart Zones pre-installed anyway.
im just waiting for meganerdbomb to come along and kick things into gear.

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #81 on: May 10, 2017, 04:10:45 PM »
Thanks for mentioning that.


I will check the RA2 v1.4 install package and as it includes Mad's Smartzones, I will plan on not including the Mad's Smartzones in the Starcore Stock Pack and just mention in the Readme Instructions that Starcore v4 expects RA2 v1.4 with Madiaba's Smartzones as a prerequisite.

On that note, do I still need to add the 6-bot per team code in the package or is that Stock Standard as well these days?

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #82 on: May 11, 2017, 04:44:57 AM »
Thanks for mentioning that.


I will check the RA2 v1.4 install package and as it includes Mad's Smartzones, I will plan on not including the Mad's Smartzones in the Starcore Stock Pack and just mention in the Readme Instructions that Starcore v4 expects RA2 v1.4 with Madiaba's Smartzones as a prerequisite.

On that note, do I still need to add the 6-bot per team code in the package or is that Stock Standard as well these days?

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You'll have to include the 6-bot per team UI as it's not included in the standalone download, unless you're planning on a drop-in update. Most people should already have it though, as nearly all AI packs use it , so it shouldn't be too big of an issue for most people.



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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #83 on: May 11, 2017, 06:29:17 PM »
Will we keep posting the rebuilds as they get finished? Should we make a separate thread in Stock Showcases?

I like that you kept the exposed motors. I did kinda dig the look of the Y-connectors on old Bitter Box though. And maybe keep Cyclone's black battery to avoid the generic? I mean the old chassis wasn't half bad

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #84 on: May 11, 2017, 06:58:17 PM »
I am fine with people posting the rebuilds in this thread. Making multiple threads, unfortunately, gives more places to check and review. That allows discussing the Starcore Stock rebuilds, tweaks, suggestions, and also posting picks and links at the same time.

And I am fine including the 6-bot UI code with Starcore v4. I included it in Starcore v2 and v3 and the only reason it is not yet in v4 was that the Alpha1 and Alpha2 ZIPs were not full packages and at the time were intended for an internal test team.

Since I/we are opening up the Starcore v4 Alpha reviews to the public, I will be packaging up all the elements needed to run assuming at least a fresh RA2 1.4.

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #85 on: May 17, 2017, 07:01:38 PM »
Things are moving along on the Starcore v4 Alpha3. I have about 40 rebuilds to integrate and more coming in soonish.

A few questions and requests to you all:

Is there anything special you would like to see included in the Stock Starcore AI V4 pack?

Anyone like to do rebuilds of specific Starcore v4 bots?

Any volunteers to create a new Splash Screen and/or the UI Screen? (Would love from Rejected if he is still around but barring that we do need someone that is decent enough with Photoshop or equivalent)

For anyone submitting rebuilds please use the following naming format:

Team # Bot# BotName - YourHandle v#.bot

Where Team # is the AI team the bot is on.
Bot# is the position of the bot in the team.
BotName is the name of the bot you are rebuilding.
YourHandle is the name you are known by in the RA2 Community.
v# is optional and included if you are submitting more than one version of the same bot.

e.g.

Team 0 Bot1 Fury - Starcore v3.bot

This helps me keep track of what bots have come in and who submitted.

You are fine using the GTM File Hosting and PM me the link or even better, they have set up a Google Docs site for uploading and tracking bots for the Starcore Pack update.

I believe Mr. AS and Geice will be doing a post with the details.

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #86 on: May 17, 2017, 08:18:48 PM »
I believe Mr. AS and Geice will be doing a post with the details.
Not sure about Geice, but here's a snippet from myself:

090901 went ahead and created a folder to upload .bot files of completed robots to. This is intended to alleviate the problems SCv4 had before, were a builder would make a decent rebuild and then never send it. Make sure you use the formatting Starcore posted above when uploading a bot.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3vseYuHa2PhZkdoWjBobUdCWW8?usp=sharing <-- link

Once a robot is uploaded onto there, it is considered "done" and needs no further updates.

S_M has also made a spreadsheet to garner feedback on which bots need a rebuild and which do not. Please check it out before claiming a bot: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J6t9tarSfUm15M30gSPqY5jCNZkGNwCRTJi2b-pzVtA/edit?usp=sharing

Each builder has their own color to claim which robots they're making. For example, Geice is yellow, 090901 is pink, and I'm purple.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2017, 10:39:03 PM by Mr. AS »
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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #87 on: May 18, 2017, 02:08:44 PM »
As a note, please do not change the name of the bot(s) you are rebuilding in the bot lab. That affects the AI Bindings and the Wiki. We will be giving credit to you for your efforts in the readme.

e.g. If it was historically called Fury then leave its name in the Bot Lab as Fury. When you export the bot you can rename to, for example: Team 0 Bot1 Fury - YourHandle v2.bot

Still looking for a volunteer to work on the Pack Splash Screen...

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #88 on: May 22, 2017, 02:26:57 PM »
Status update from efforts over the weekend:

I know other updates are coming in but for now while integrating the various rebuilds into the Starcore v4 Alpha3 release, I have updated:
1) Updated Maelstrom to remove rear plow and changed one spinner from dual Irons to triple Maces on each arm.
2) Updated Praetorian to have plows and updated graphics.
3) Updated AW-Billy the Kid to 3 Razer Rammer, though I like the 2 Razers on Axles that has been shown better (Will use when submitted)
4) Updated BW-Billy Goat Gruffy to Red Bird Weapon Motor with Disc and 4 Razers
5) Updated Billy Goat Gruffiest to remove Plow, Roof Ram Plates and used weight to cover the bottom in Caster Armor. Still possible to put wedges on Snappers but that would require a full rebuild (Volunteers?)
6) Looking to replace Castle Guard with a VS called Trebuchet based on H.A.N.N.A.H by Ianh. Got some other good SnS alternatives as well. So may look at other spots for the bot by Ianh instead.
7) Updated Alien Queen to now have free spinning Axles for Rear wheels (tried without or with Casters but needed Wheels for balance) and used the weight for 1 more front Caster Armor (kinda looks like Boobs now. Guess that works for Alien Queen). Also updated some of her graphics. Need to find a good closeup of the HR Giger-styled Alien skin. Used a closeup of a locust for prior theming. Will consider any consolidating of the shell...
8) Brought in some 30 rebuilds and going through them 1-by-1 checking wiring and wiring naming, facing vs AI, smartzones, botlab and SmartZone naming, seeing if fights better than the prior edition, etc.

On the Buttons and Switches for Player vs AI Wiring for submitted bots:
When a bot is submitted as a rebuild or new team, I can't say I do it every time but most every time I go through the Wiring and add things like Switch for Players called "Player Spin" and Button called "Spin" for AI spin needs. When you are submitting a bot, while it is nice for you to put in Player Controls to say me some time. If you don't, I will. I have also been doing WASD for driving around and the Arrow Keys for inverted driving around. I know others use Arrow Keys for right-side-up driving around. No single right answer.

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #89 on: May 22, 2017, 03:22:23 PM »
5) Updated Billy Goat Gruffiest to remove Plow, Roof Ram Plates and used weight to cover the bottom in Caster Armor. Still possible to put wedges on Snappers but that would require a full rebuild (Volunteers?)

BGG is a Facespinner. so I'd be willing to take a stab at it
im just waiting for meganerdbomb to come along and kick things into gear.

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #90 on: May 22, 2017, 03:30:50 PM »
5) Updated Billy Goat Gruffiest to remove Plow, Roof Ram Plates and used weight to cover the bottom in Caster Armor. Still possible to put wedges on Snappers but that would require a full rebuild (Volunteers?)

BGG is a Facespinner. so I'd be willing to take a stab at it

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #91 on: May 22, 2017, 05:21:54 PM »
5) Updated Billy Goat Gruffiest to remove Plow, Roof Ram Plates and used weight to cover the bottom in Caster Armor. Still possible to put wedges on Snappers but that would require a full rebuild (Volunteers?)

BGG is a Facespinner. so I'd be willing to take a stab at it

Thanks! I can send you the tweaks I have done so far so you can review before doing a full rebuild. If that is of interest. Otherwise have at it!

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #92 on: May 22, 2017, 06:58:58 PM »
Yeah, if you just wanna PM me yours I'll be happy to look at it first.
im just waiting for meganerdbomb to come along and kick things into gear.

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #93 on: May 23, 2017, 05:18:37 AM »
i quoted his post as i might have a go to :P

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2017, 02:01:20 AM »
About the "classic" robots that are still viable to this day like Tempus Fugit or Neglected Waterbug, should we just leave them as is or do we update them too?

I would like to manage any updating of the bots in the Spin Doctors team (as my personal team) and bots like Neglected Waterbug are legendary and should be kept as is.

If you have suggested updates for these bots, please do share your thoughts and efforts. And if you have better versions mayhap you save them for your own team in the pack.

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2017, 05:00:07 AM »
Question:
Are we allowed to send you a user team?

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2017, 08:28:58 AM »
I went and manually got all the bots from their teams and gave them the correct names for easy importing.
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=354
Obviously you will have to look up the teams yourself but this should help save some time moving files.

What's with the team 35 by the way? They don't have bindings.

EDIT: Here is my in progress review: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J6t9tarSfUm15M30gSPqY5jCNZkGNwCRTJi2b-pzVtA/edit#gid=0
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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #97 on: June 06, 2017, 12:36:37 PM »
Question:
Are we allowed to send you a user team?

We are mostly in the phase of rebuilding existing bots that are in need of an update but yes you can start sending your own user team(s).

They should be Diverse, Effective, Creative.

Diverse means explores a wide range of build types and techniques. For example, we have a lot of HS bots. If you submit another one it should explore some twist on the theme. We don't have many VS or Stiltbots or Jugglers or Hammer bots or maybe you feel you can do a distinctive Popup better than what is currently in the pack.

Effective means well built, doesn't need to be air tight as long as the shape of the bot fits the theme and effectiveness of the bot. Airtight is a nice plus where it fits. Effective also means combat worthy. Basically, needs to fight their way into the pack. The bots should be able defeat as AI multiple bots in the Starcore pack of their same weight class.

Creative means creative in looks and design and preferably a common texture theme across the bots in the team.

A team should be 6 bots. Preferably LW, MW, HW, AW, BW, (your choice on the 6th, though SHW or HW are common). Also need to include a Team Picture, Team Name and Team Quote (If you don't want, "Brought to you by YourHandle").

The bots should be wired for AI. A Forward control, LeftRight, and as appropriate a Spin button, Flip button, and the like. If you are familiar with doing so, please do place and name any Madiaba or Default Smartzones you need for the bot to respond to others when they are close.

And when you send to me in PM or email attachment, remember to include your GTM Handle so I don't lose track of who the bots came from.

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #98 on: June 25, 2017, 04:20:34 PM »
Not to distract from the current tournaments or the heat of summer (well, to distract from that) but basically done with the updates for the next Starcore 4.0 Alpha 3 update and about ready to send it out.

Doing a last call for robot updates to anyone that is wanting to or is working on submissions.

Not sure what still needs to be updated? Check out:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J6t9tarSfUm15M30gSPqY5jCNZkGNwCRTJi2b-pzVtA/edit#gid=0

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Re: Starcore AI Pack 4.0 Reboot
« Reply #99 on: June 25, 2017, 04:30:25 PM »
I have a HW popup, but I have apply a better skin (still white). I might send you something tomorrow.