Author Topic: Screw it, it's on - RFS (Dracophile) AI Pack V1.7 (Read 10550 times)

RFS · « **on:** January 22, 2010, 04:42:14 PM »

It's 6 or 7 years late but who gives a damn, I've decided to make my last hurrah with Robot Arena 2, find that inner "Tutorial Man", and relearn AI-ing to revive the previously canceled version "1.7" of the RFS (Dracophile) AI Pack. There's not much left to expand upon, just more teams - and I don't know how many I'll add, I'll just keep making them until I get tired of it.

I know there's some AI programs out there that do AI-ing for you, but I'd rather code this by hand to keep with that authentic feel, for me at least.

Originally when robots for V1.7 were being designed, they were all parted out to various modders for "cameo" appearances, and there's also an "unseen AI" download pack full of 7 BOT files here: https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Arena2/AI_Packs/RFS/RFS_unseenAI.zip

Will I include them in the V1.7? I don't know. Maybe? Maybe not. Let me see if they suck or not.

SOME QUESTIONS PEOPLE MAY HAVE ABOUT THIS PACK:
Q: Why the sudden rekindled interest in Robot Arena 2 modding?
A: Because. BattleBots was canceled again and I'm mad and I feel like getting my fix again.

Q: Who is Dracophile?
A: Dracophile is the screenname I go by now because I hated RFS. This pack's title will have the Draco thing in parentheses.

Q: If I have downloaded/installed (super duper doo doo man parts pack 4000) will V1.7 work for me?
A: Probably not, I would use a fresh install just to be safe. No guarantees of cross-compatibility with other packs.

Q: Will I need to have patched the game with your previous AI packs to use V1.7?
A: No, this is an all-encompassing download pack that you can play right out of the box with all of the previous bots included.

Q: Will there be any secrets included in this pack?
A: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THERE ARE NEVER ANY SECRETS IN ANY OF MY PACKS EVER. SHUT UP.

Q: When will this be done?
A:

<--- (That's :rapeface2000: from RFSHQ, actually, and originated from Club Penguin forums as :scary:, the equivalent of :D in the game.)

I will post teasers/promos as they become available.

You can consult the global RFS AI Pack page on the Wiki here for general information and the history of the upgrade:
https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=RFS_AI_Pack

Naryar · « **Reply #1 on:** January 22, 2010, 04:43:45 PM »

Good to see you rebuilding !

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #2 on:** January 22, 2010, 04:55:28 PM »

If you need some mass re-AIing, i'm willing to help.

Trovaner · « **Reply #3 on:** January 22, 2010, 05:17:47 PM »

Sounds great!

So many people have enjoyed the feel and originality of your packs over the years. Some even wanted to continue where you left off (I can remember at least two in the time I've been here).

There have been many new AI scripts added since your last installment so be sure to check out the BBEANS AI Pack (found here) and the general AIing thread (found here). There is more scattered throughout the forums but for the most part, the major ones were included in the above places.
Edit: Click's improved ram and charge tactics would also make all the AI slightly smarter (found here).

Sparkey98 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 22, 2010, 06:08:51 PM »

will the bot I just sent you be in it? it's got that classic feel :D

RFS · « **Reply #5 on:** January 22, 2010, 07:35:11 PM »

My RA2 crashes every time I try saving a robot (which just caused me to lose 2 decent designs). I'm going to play with it and reinstall and see if that fixes it.

edit: Not sure what the issue was but a fresh re-install and patched with only the RFS AI Packs and the AI components patches works.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #6 on:** January 22, 2010, 10:39:52 PM »

this is great to hear your getting back into it all

RFS · « **Reply #7 on:** January 22, 2010, 11:13:07 PM »

I'm going to put a little more effort into skinning most of these robots (the previous 180 were all skinned using the in-game editor). I've got most of one team completed - consisting of the 6 robots "Patriot Act", "Going Commando", "Executioner EX", "Menace 2 Society", "Gammarazer", and "Wimpy 2K10". If you can guess where all 6 are inspired from and based upon you get bonus points.

I've also put some work into the "10 Yr. (-1) Anniversary Edition Thumperizer". It's pretty effective thus far. I'm thinking about reskinning some of the components used to have gold-plated editions though. :P

Sparkey98 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 22, 2010, 11:15:40 PM »

they are rebuilds of RA1s AI
patriot
Comando
Executioner
Urben menace
Gamerazie
Wimpy

lol Ithought about and will rebuild topknot :)

RFS · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2010, 12:16:05 AM »

One thing I wanted to do in the first AI pack(s) was re-envision some of the stock AI into bigger meaner machines. I figured that going after the top dog, EMERGENCY, and making it even more of a frustrating opponent than it already is seemed like a good idea. He has no paint job yet, but here is "The 'Merge":

For the other 5 robots getting the makeover I was considering Bear as the other HW, Revenge and Barbershop Chop (that secret robot and the one from the RA.com website) for the MWs, and Ninja and someone else for the LWs.

Thus far everything I aim to produce is something possible in real life (theoretically you could cut slots through "real" ram plates etc etc etc let's not get technical here), although two robots specifically, The Merge and Thumperizer Anniversary both utilize that old school "stacked" motors trick to give them a little extra edge in being tougher accordingly.

edit: For the sake of hilarity, Wimpy 2K10

System32 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2010, 12:29:36 AM »

I'd like to see some older bots improved.

1K could esily become better with a wider stance, the big one with irons, and a few others with slight adjustments as well.

Doubting it'll ever happen though...

RFS · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2010, 12:34:37 AM »

I'll go through however many teams I decide on and then see if there are any existing robots that are in DIRE need of any tweaks and I'll remake them if it's not terribly difficult.

Serge · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2010, 05:36:50 AM »

Hell yeah RFS. I like that you try to make the bots realistic, those glitchbots I see everywhere are getting boring.

cephalopod · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2010, 06:14:09 AM »

^^ QFT ^^

I look forward to playing it, RFS :D

Sparkey98 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2010, 09:48:37 AM »

lol I cant wait to fight wimpy
youshould do scooterpie and topknot

Sparkey98 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2010, 03:46:00 PM »

wow gay ass you phail i'd kisck you're ass with my hs it's got 2 saw blade ans 2 nifties rfs packs suck i killed 4000 rads with a rammer I am the ra2 king i took down clockwork hydra first time with a bot with a chewblade

RFS · « **Reply #16 on:** January 24, 2010, 02:33:17 AM »

Here's a promo image for you all, one complete team thus far. It's not named, but it's the RA1 recreations.

There's a few other odds and ends that are being worked on, the "Twilight Foundry PLATINUM" team (6 rebuilds of my most popular/best robots) needs to have skins made before it's done (LaunchPad 2, No Escape Reincarnated, HACK!, CrapBot: The Reckoning, Balls of Steel Revolution, and Thumperizer 10 Yr (-1) Anniversary).

The "RA2 Greats" team (for lack of a better name), aka the Stock AI Revisited team, is also "done", the robots I ended up remodeling are:
- Roly Poly ==> Holy Moly (still a rammer)
- Ninja ==> Sam R. Rye (now a thwack-bot)
- Barbershop Chop ==> Close Shave (now a hammer bot)
- Revenge ==> Best Served Cold (double the weaponry)
- Bear ==> Uncare Bear (now a vertical spinner)
- Emergency ==> The 'Merge (still a flipper, just even more annoying)

Stagfish · « **Reply #17 on:** January 24, 2010, 03:30:42 AM »

nice to see remakes of the old bots

does anyone else have the disc and packaging? not the downloaded one?

RFS · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2010, 03:32:31 AM »

Quote from: Stagfish on January 24, 2010, 03:30:42 AM

nice to see remakes of the old bots

does anyone else have the disc and packaging? not the downloaded one?

Mine's from the store. I bought it the day it came out - I had it reserved. :P I lose the CD from time to time but it resurfaces after some searching,

Stagfish · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2010, 03:38:25 AM »

i have the CD+packaging :D