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Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 12, 2009, 05:40:20 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28560screenshot_18.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18771screenshot_19.png) Armour plastic 3

 I've been working on a LW for awhile for an upcoming tournment, this is my first one / my 3rd bot I ever made:-D. I also decided it would be smart to make showcase for tips and help. Legend Killer beats all the LW'S in DSL no problem. I was kind of suprised from the desturction of the mace attached to the spike club. It does very good damage and stays attached for most of the matches. I'm all ears for tips and help on how to improve the bot. Thanks in advance:approve:
Edit: Changed the armour to Titatanium 1 and added a ant battery.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Reier on August 12, 2009, 05:42:06 PM
Why is the plow at an angle? And download the actual DSL please. The bot, not bad. Could use some more space managment and more batt power though.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Urjak on August 12, 2009, 05:43:05 PM
I actually like the bot a lot. Decent chassis managment, good weapon. I really can't see anything particularly wrong with it.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 12, 2009, 05:46:42 PM
Quote from: Reier;59257
Why is the plow at an angle? And download the actual DSL please. The bot, not bad. Could use some more space managment and more batt power though.


It's the only angle I was able to get the plow on . As for the DSl I'm not sure, I did all the steps, It says 2.1, what does yours look like???
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Somebody on August 12, 2009, 07:10:35 PM
Download the one in Sage`s sig. its noob proof.  Also, please explain why the plow wouldn`t go on...
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 12, 2009, 07:38:35 PM
Quote from: Somebody;59289
Download the one in Sage`s sig. its noob proof.  Also, please explain why the plow wouldn`t go on...


So wahts going to happen to the DSL2.1 thats intalled now???. As for the plow, the space where I have the connector  made it so it would only fit in that way, so when I connect the plow to the connector it's a little crooked:smiley:. Even though it's a little crooked it still protects the the bot very well it just looks a little funny:-D.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Somebody on August 12, 2009, 08:01:33 PM
If you d/l Sage`s, it just is a whole extra game. Then ypu can copy your robot designs, screenshots, etc. into the new game.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 12, 2009, 08:25:39 PM
Quote from: Somebody;59304
If you d/l Sage`s, it just is a whole extra game. Then ypu can copy your robot designs, screenshots, etc. into the new game.


ok, ya it installed fine. Weird I wonder what I did wrong the first time I had everthing except the new menu layout. Anyways I came across a quesion, ill post screen shots and my question in a little bit. NVM about the question I solved it.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: LiNcK on August 12, 2009, 08:50:06 PM
Thats waaay better than any of my LWs :P
(Only got 2 tough ^^')
Title: Bark Scorpian
Post by: Viper89 on August 14, 2009, 03:57:09 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/59214screenshot_24.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/89713screenshot_25.png)

Armour Titaitum 1

My first MW bot. Does good against the other MW's. All ears for tips and help:-D
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Reier on August 14, 2009, 04:16:52 PM
It's Scorpion actually. =P
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: LiNcK on August 14, 2009, 06:43:35 PM
Hmmm... I think that if you fire too fast, The Weapons wont hit the oponent & the extenders will probably get PWN3D.

Also, It draws exactly the same ammount of power as it has...
I heard that overpowering bots that use Burst Motors is W1N :P

Wheels = :/
(I always use Hypno's so its obius that i wont like em... For me, Wheels that arent thick  means that they arent grippy :P)

But yeah.. Imma N00B, Who would read this? (Im probably wrong in most of the stuff)
You also dont have weight for them :\
Title: Empire Scorpion
Post by: Viper89 on August 14, 2009, 08:31:48 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41896screenshot_27.png)
New version :D. What do you guys mean by weight? I'm not sure.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 14, 2009, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: LiNcK;59686
Hmmm... I think that if you fire too fast, The Weapons wont hit the oponent & the extenders will probably get PWN3D.

The Tails fire fine and the extenders are pretty durable for the most part.

Also, It draws exactly the same ammount of power as it has...
I heard that overpowering bots that use Burst Motors is W1N :P
idk about this one, you be right :approve:

Wheels = :/
(I always use Hypno's so its obius that i wont like em... For me, Wheels that arent thick  means that they arent grippy :P)
I always use hypno's to but I can't use them for this bot because those wheels don't touch the ground.

But yeah.. Imma N00B, Who would read this? (Im probably wrong in most of the stuff)
You also dont have weight for them :\


What do you mean by weight???
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Natef on August 14, 2009, 09:08:20 PM
Insides please. reminds me of Ham-mer Sandwich 2
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Weirdo on August 15, 2009, 07:49:04 AM
When you don't have the weight for a component it means you will exceed the weight limit of the weight class if you add that component.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 15, 2009, 08:23:30 AM
Quote from: Natef;59696
Insides please. reminds me of Ham-mer Sandwich 2

insides are the same as post 10, I liked Ham-mer setup of the extenders so I based some things from that bot into this one:-D

Quote from: Weirdo;59756
When you don't have the weight for a component it means you will exceed the weight limit of the weight class if you add that component.

????. To me that made no sense????
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Weirdo on August 15, 2009, 08:32:26 AM
=S

If you have a weight limit of 400kg and a component -anything- that weighs 13kg and you add it to your bot if it already weighs 400kg, its going to weigh 413kg.

Same principle applies to this game. If you want a MW, the weight limit is 400kg (correct me if I'm wrong). If you go above that by adding more components, your bot becomes a HW and you don't want it to, so you don't have the weight for those components unless you want your bot to be a HW. The weight limit for HWs is 800kg/799.9kg and you can't go above that without anti-ballasts, but thats complicating things.

That make more sense? Do you really go to community college?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 15, 2009, 10:21:31 AM
Quote from: Weirdo;59758
=S

If you have a weight limit of 400kg and a component -anything- that weighs 13kg and you add it to your bot if it already weighs 400kg, its going to weigh 413kg.

Same principle applies to this game. If you want a MW, the weight limit is 400kg (correct me if I'm wrong). If you go above that by adding more components, your bot becomes a HW and you don't want it to, so you don't have the weight for those components unless you want your bot to be a HW. The weight limit for HWs is 800kg/799.9kg and you can't go above that without anti-ballasts, but thats complicating things.

That make more sense? Do you really go to community college?


haha I already knew that, Linick Had me freaking confused he said I wasn't showing the weight???. Are you kidding me of course I knew that wow do you think i'm that slow:shock:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Weirdo on August 15, 2009, 11:14:03 AM
Quote from: Viper89;59757

Quote from: Weirdo;59757

When you don't have the weight for a component it means you will exceed the weight limit of the weight class if you add that component.




????. To me that made no sense????


...

He didn't say you weren't showing the weight, he either meant you didn't have the weight for hypnos or batteries.
Are you sure you're in community college? You misspelt 'scorpion' for crying out loud!
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: takatsukiyayoi on August 15, 2009, 11:17:47 AM
'Legend Killer' reminds me of the original version of Nayuki the Spinner that I built. Fast spinning bar with some weapons on the ends. Could beat some of the stronger spinners for sure.
Title: Final Version
Post by: Viper89 on August 15, 2009, 11:15:01 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80408screenshot_29.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4180screenshot_28.png)

 I changed the plow,the weapon setup and added poly panels in the back for balance. It does really good damage and overall a pretty decent MW.:approve: Insides are still the same.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Roboquad on August 16, 2009, 08:40:52 AM
Remove the spike clubs and use the extra weight for hypnos (extra grip) and stronger chassis armor.

Still a very good bot though.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Somebody on August 16, 2009, 08:42:10 AM
If all of the razors are on a level surface, they all hit and all do damage. Like that, only 2 do damage.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 16, 2009, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Weirdo;59783
...

He didn't say you weren't showing the weight, he either meant you didn't have the weight for hypnos or batteries.
Are you sure you're in community college? You misspelt 'scorpion' for crying out loud!


haha I see know, it through me off when he put it at the end of his post. I only misspelled Scorpion on here I had it right in the game, things happen when your in a hurry;)
Quote from: Roboquad;59950
Remove the spike clubs and use the extra weight for hypnos (extra grip) and stronger chassis armor.

Still a very good bot though.

thx:-D
Well I like the spike clubs because if it turns into a battle where your going weapon for weapon with another bot I at least know the spike clubs will last longer then razor tips. As for the wheels Like I said  before, they don't touch the ground when I use those kinds so I have to use these ones.They work fine:smiley:
Quote from: Somebody;59951
If all of the razors are on a level surface, they all hit and all do damage. Like that, only 2 do damage.

 
Your right sort of, Depending on how big the enemy bot is and the position of the bot not all hit but more then 2 do .I will look into that then and see what I come up with.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Sage on August 16, 2009, 11:08:49 AM
Really.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/19387entries4.jpg)


Strikes me as familiar....

You must have used a lighter armor than i did. I can't remember if i used the fast npcs or not.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 16, 2009, 11:50:33 AM
Quote from: Sage;59977
Really.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/19387entries4.jpg)


Strikes me as familiar....

You must have used a lighter armor than i did. I can't remember if i used the fast npcs or not.

 
lol I didn't know you were the maker of it:approve:
ya I based most of Empire Scorpion on Hammer sandwitch:smiley:. Yes I used lighter armour so I could put a stronger plow and other things. I think you used NPC's normal.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Reier on August 16, 2009, 01:17:20 PM
HS2 used Normal NPCs, I remember.
Title: S.O.W Scorpion Of War
Post by: Viper89 on August 16, 2009, 07:34:13 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/11371screenshot_31.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/11003screenshot_32.png)
5mm titanium




I wanted to do another bot with this series:approve:. It does really well against the HW's. All ears for tips and suggestions:approve:. Edit oops I posted 2 of the same pic??? I will fix ASAP.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on August 16, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
Whats the point of having wedges if the weapons block their effectiveness?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 16, 2009, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;60023
Whats the point of having wedges if the weapons block their effectiveness?


hmm I see your point but the weapons(claws) don't effect the wedges at all they actually help with getting under bots. I did a couple fights and in each fight I was getting underneath bots with the weapons(claws). on a side note I would really like to hear your opinions on what you think of the bot:approve:. I like to hear from exp builders to know if I'm getting better and making decent bots.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: LiNcK on August 17, 2009, 05:22:42 PM
I always wanted to make some claws that close when the bot comes close, Locking him in so the hammers/spikes PWN him... Like your bot Viper, But with the frontal spikes being able to kep the oponent in the place :D
Title: S.O.W Scorpion Of War New version
Post by: Viper89 on August 17, 2009, 06:13:25 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/76514screenshot_35.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60522screenshot_36.png)

insides and armour are the same. I changed the front weapons because the old ones were flimsy. I changed the the side weapons to 2 heavy plows to protect the side of the bot and the wheels. lol I just noticed I had extra weight maybe I might put better armour. Idk anybody has ideas what I should do with the extra weight?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 17, 2009, 06:17:43 PM
Quote from: LiNcK;60174
I always wanted to make some claws that close when the bot comes close, Locking him in so the hammers/spikes PWN him... Like your bot Viper, But with the frontal spikes being able to kep the oponent in the place :D


lol actually the claws don't move but when bots hit the plow and and move side to side they collide with the claws and some time it does make them stuck. I like the idea though I might make one like that, it's sorta like the grissly bear's setup:-D.
Title: Vetran Killer
Post by: Viper89 on August 18, 2009, 06:27:15 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18848screenshot_33.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/97793screenshot_34.png)

This is my first VS. I need help. When the weapons hit the opponet the bot filps on its's back then re flips some times??? Also the 2 flail are pissing me off to. At the start  of some fights one flail will start in the wrong postion like folded backwards, I don't know how to prevent this I played around with flails alot but still keep getting the same results. If some one can help me on balanceing a VS and the fllails I would greatly apprieate it:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Sage on August 18, 2009, 06:34:26 PM
dont use two differnt hammers. use the same hammers.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 18, 2009, 06:43:46 PM
Quote from: Sage;60369
dont use two differnt hammers. use the same hammers.


ok, I was trying to be original so I used to different weapons. Will this fix my balancing problem????Also what about the flails???
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: russian roulette on August 18, 2009, 07:06:47 PM
Original? More like Mako clone.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: trumpetguy on August 18, 2009, 08:00:49 PM
It looks like Mako itself, with different hammers and chassis paint.
Title: Vetran Killer Round 2
Post by: Viper89 on August 18, 2009, 10:32:22 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/20087screenshot_35.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/90198screenshot_36.png)

I like this version alot better:-D. It does way more damage and there no gay flails to worry about. It's still a rough draft because I'm gonna move the weapon setup because they are very close to each other. I'm open for tips and suggestions.

and for RR and Trumpet and everybody else, first of all it's not a Mako clone. The only time I see Mako is when I face him in the arena with the BEANS TEAM. Your telling me I can eye a bot charging me with four spinning hammers and copy it exactly??? And this Bot was based off a MW and Mako is a HW, and the MW I based it off only had one Perm. So I'm making this statement: If you don't have any helpful suggestions or tips to help improve my bots and my building skills(The whole reason why I made this thread), Then don't post in my Showcase because your taking up space of people who want to help and have helpful tips thanks in advance.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on August 19, 2009, 06:03:53 AM
You know, your bot would look and perform better if it's symmetrical. :P

As for the MW, you based it on DOAM, perhaps? XD

I would've used razors for stock, but I'm kinda worried about the stability when a few razors get knocked out. Personally, I prefer hammers (I intended to use DS teeth on Dark Matter but they were too brittle for my liking) but it's your bot. And if the weight distribution is good, you won't need the rear stabilizer anymore (plus, I think that prevents it from self-righting well).

Oh, and having the weapons as close to the ground as possible helps a lot. :D
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Weirdo on August 19, 2009, 07:19:32 AM
Mako is not hard to clone, and your origonal VK looked alot like it. I know you didn't intend to clone it, but a lot of people do this -make bot look-a-likes without realising- and its a lot easier if you don't make a fuss. If you see anyone accusing, or more likely pointing out, that its a 'clone', either just let it pass or go "oops! My bad..." and get on with making it better.

Sorry about that little rant there.

As for the bot, I can only say what Pwn said, but I'll stress that it NEEDS to be symmetrical.
Title: Thank you so much this was the help I was looking for :D
Post by: Viper89 on August 19, 2009, 10:46:29 AM
Quote from: Pwnator;60426
You know, your bot would look and perform better if it's symmetrical. :P

As for the MW, you based it on DOAM, perhaps? XD

I would've used razors for stock, but I'm kinda worried about the stability when a few razors get knocked out. Personally, I prefer hammers (I intended to use DS teeth on Dark Matter but they were too brittle for my liking) but it's your bot. And if the weight distribution is good, you won't need the rear stabilizer anymore (plus, I think that prevents it from self-righting well).

Oh, and having the weapons as close to the ground as possible helps a lot. :D


Now By symertical I guessing you mean move the right weapon setup over? As for the razor's they work  way better then  I thought, They shred bots to pieces:evil:.  When they fall off the bot is not really unstable. Ya for the rear I put those on because I'm  still new to making bots  and was the only way I knew how to stablize. I'm going to take your advice about the weight distrubution and lose the rear panels. Ill post screen shots when I finish for more help.

Quote from: Weirdo;60430
Mako is not hard to clone, and your origonal VK looked alot like it. I know you didn't intend to clone it, but a lot of people do this -make bot look-a-likes without realising- and its a lot easier if you don't make a fuss. If you see anyone accusing, or more likely pointing out, that its a 'clone', either just let it pass or go "oops! My bad..." and get on with making it better.

Sorry about that little rant there.

As for the bot, I can only say what Pwn said, but I'll stress that it NEEDS to be symmetrical.


The only fuss was I just wanted help so I can make better bots and learn, I just find posts like those unhelpful and a waste of space. And yes I'm going to try and make it symetrical.
Title: Veteran Killer Round 3
Post by: Viper89 on August 19, 2009, 12:34:18 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95709screenshot_38.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25655screenshot_39.png)

At Pwnator and weirdo the symetrical advice really help thanks so much:approve:. VK is the most powerful bot I made so far, the 24 razors just rips through bots like cheese on a cheese grader:evil:. I fixed the name because I spelled it wrong lol, I also got rid of the rear panels. I'm always open for tips and suggestions to improve my bots:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Weirdo on August 19, 2009, 05:22:31 PM
I know you were told to get rid of the rear panels but... is it still stable?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 19, 2009, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: Weirdo;60518
I know you were told to get rid of the rear panels but... is it still stable?


ya I took yours and pwn's advise about making it symetrical and the weight distrubution and works so much better, way more stable and drives better. Thx:-D
Title: Angel Of Death
Post by: Viper89 on August 24, 2009, 06:48:43 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/65395screenshot_40.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/10824screenshot_41.png)
1mm titanium

This is my first SNS:-D. I want to thank Doomaster for letting me use Dodongo as a referrence because I had no idea how to make a SnS lol. Does really well against the LW'S. I'm still trying to decide to use Legend Killer or Angel Of Death in BEANS6 and the TAG TEAM 2:evil:. All ears for tips and suugestions:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: trumpetguy on August 24, 2009, 09:31:33 PM
Replace the multi-extender with a stronger extender.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 24, 2009, 10:08:39 PM
Quote from: trumpetguy;61658
Replace the multi-extender with a stronger extender.


hmm your right it didn't even cross my mind, I think the only ones I would be able to use are the poly and the aluminum because of the weight.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: trumpetguy on August 24, 2009, 10:18:37 PM
And doesn't the razer block out the meat tenderizer?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: russian roulette on August 24, 2009, 11:33:11 PM
Use 30 kg hammers and take away the razors. Also the chassis could be a little bit smaller to save some weight. Finally, are the NPCs fasts or regular?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 25, 2009, 12:52:43 AM
Quote from: trumpetguy;61668
And doesn't the razer block out the meat tenderizer?


actually they don't,the razors are a secondary offense when the hammers fall off ;)

Quote from: russian roulette;61671
Use 30 kg hammers and take away the razors. Also the chassis could be a little bit smaller to save some weight. Finally, are the NPCs fasts or regular?


@ RR Ill do some trial runs to see if they work better I was trying to be original and do something different thats why I went with the current weapon setup, They are NPC Fast and as for the chassis look how small it is now??? If you can make it smaller then kudos to you lol:smiley:.

haha i'm suprised i can still type 20 shots deep in a bottle of GreyGoose:evil:

thanks for the post I like when I get posts that help improve my bots:-D.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 25, 2009, 06:23:29 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/90259screenshot_43.png)
 I attempted to hide the wheels better but I failed miserably, they fall off way faster than the first version:angry:. Any ideas on how to protect the wheels better:?.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: russian roulette on August 25, 2009, 06:52:51 PM
If you reverse the setup and have the razors go on the outside then the chassis will be better protected.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: LiNcK on August 25, 2009, 07:25:52 PM
I think i know how to get the wheels closer to the chassis:

Instead of using 80cm (Or whatever the lengt) bars... use 2 40cm of them or something..
You have more atachement points i think..?

IDK much of DSL bars :P
Title: here's another go at it
Post by: Viper89 on August 25, 2009, 09:47:43 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15246screenshot_45.png)
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: takatsukiyayoi on August 25, 2009, 09:52:33 PM
Interesting take on the SnS.
Are you using the "Fast" version of the NPC?
They are much more sexier than the regular ones (just kidding, but the NPC-Fasts ARE more effective).
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 25, 2009, 09:56:02 PM
Quote from: takatsukiyayoi;61808
Interesting take on the SnS.
Are you using the "Fast" version of the NPC?
They are much more sexier than the regular ones (just kidding, but the NPC-Fasts ARE more effective).


Ya i'm using the fast ones:smiley:.
Title: S.O.W Scorpion Of War 2.0
Post by: Viper89 on August 26, 2009, 02:42:57 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/16701screenshot_46.png)

The armour and the insides are still the same.

I like this version alot, I don't think anybody has made a HW like this:evil:. I got rid of the skirts in the back to self right,changed the wheels to fatboy's because the spike ones were way to gripy and made the bot tip backward when droven, changed the side plows to mediums, I changed the front weapon setup up with 2 NPC's and 2 Sirkillalot Drills:evil:. Does very well in battle too:-D.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: LiNcK on August 26, 2009, 06:00:35 PM
Angel Of Death = Best LW Ever... :')
Also, You could use techno's as wheels, IDK if they are more grippy... But the dont do what Big Cheese wheels do
(Go super fast & climb walls in an uncontrollable chaos)
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Reier on August 26, 2009, 06:24:56 PM
Quote from: LiNcK;61985
Angel Of Death = Best LW Ever... :')
Also, You could use techno's as wheels, IDK if they are more grippy... But the dont do what Big Cheese wheels do
(Go super fast & climb walls in an uncontrollable chaos)


WBC and TD wheels has the best and same grip of the game.
Title: Angel Of War
Post by: Viper89 on August 27, 2009, 03:39:27 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23949screenshot_47.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/12007screenshot_48.png)

This is just a rough draft because it still has the same armour, want to know what you guys think of it:approve:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Scrap Daddy on August 27, 2009, 03:41:48 PM
id go technos and 70kg hammers.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 27, 2009, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: Scrap Daddy;62101
id go technos and 70kg hammers.


hmmm, If I use technos I would have to get rid of the dsl bar because the wheels are big, Also won't  70kg hammers make the spin up time slow?Ill do some test runs later with that setup:approve:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: LiNcK on August 27, 2009, 04:31:31 PM
Dindt improve much for being a MW... Still vote for the LW one here :P

The Razors that are the closest to the Chassis i think are useless...
I dont think anything will manage to get THAT deep without the hammers PWN1NG it

For the Technos... You could just move the DSL bars a little, And they would fit :D

Also, Instead of those Multiextenders, Use Normal extenders, Have more HP but are just a bit shorter.

And yeah, Stronger Hammers FTW! :3
Title: Angel Of War Round 2
Post by: Viper89 on August 27, 2009, 09:03:27 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/85287screenshot_49.png)

The techno wheels were a definte plus, it's now invertible:-D. As for the 70kg hammers I feel there a waste of 140 kgs space for a MW. It's my opinion and my bot so it's whatever;). It does extremely well in battle and to this date it's my favorite MW:-D. the insides and the armour are still the same. I think this is still a rough draft because I'm still playing around with ideas:smiley:.
Title: Angel Of War Round 3
Post by: Viper89 on August 28, 2009, 12:02:24 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68485screenshot_50.png)
insides and armour still the same

This might be the final version I like this one alot:-D. What do you guys think about this one:evil:. O one more thing I noticed the chassis is a cube so it might be my CC3 entry;).
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on August 28, 2009, 12:49:16 AM
^Have you consider replacing the 2 20 cm aluminum extender with either 90/90 Flipper Segment or Hex Plate (slave)?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 28, 2009, 11:31:57 AM
Quote from: 123savethewhales;62187
^Have you consider replacing the 2 20 cm aluminum extender with either 90/90 Flipper Segment or Hex Plate (slave)?


What will that acomplish???
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on August 28, 2009, 12:13:11 PM
Bumping the hp from 600 to 1000 for the same weight (or add 1 kg for 1600 hp).  So you basically get something for nothing
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: man manu on August 28, 2009, 01:01:39 PM
Apart from then you'd reduce the length by roughly 18cm.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: trumpetguy on August 28, 2009, 02:15:42 PM
Is that chassis cubed?
Title: Thanks for the comments
Post by: Viper89 on August 28, 2009, 02:41:28 PM
Quote from: 123savethewhales;62258
Bumping the hp from 600 to 1000 for the same weight (or add 1 kg for 1600 hp).  So you basically get something for nothing

ok hmm I might try that option then:smiley:.
Quote from: man manu;62268
Apart from then you'd reduce the length by roughly 18cm.


hmm if it reduces the length then I might not try that setup

Quote from: trumpetguy;62284
Is that chassis cubed?


yes it is:-D
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: LiNcK on August 28, 2009, 08:51:16 PM
Quote from: 123savethewhales;62187
^Have you consider replacing the 2 20 cm aluminum extender with either 90/90 Flipper Segment or Hex Plate (slave)?


I dont think anything can hit those extenders...
Its VERY hard to get there :P
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on August 29, 2009, 05:30:55 PM
Keep your designs simple.

If you go DSL bars on a SnS, use just heavy weapons at the ends, like hammers, not razors everywhere because they will not touch the opponent. Or they will touch it when your bot will be in dire straits...

Also get rid of the face spinners on your hammer, and use a longer wedge.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 29, 2009, 05:41:25 PM
Quote from: Naryar;62713
Keep your designs simple.

If you go DSL bars on a SnS, use just heavy weapons at the ends, like hammers, not razors everywhere because they will not touch the opponent. Or they will touch it when your bot will be in dire straits...

Also get rid of the face spinners on your hammer, and use a longer wedge.


ok thanks for the advice:smiley:, Also what would be a better alternitive instead of the 2 NPC's and the SirKillaot drills.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on August 29, 2009, 05:50:37 PM
Stronger burst motors and more batteries.

Also your weapon's extender work (steel things etc) is unnecesarily heavy.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on August 29, 2009, 05:56:25 PM
Quote from: Naryar;62717
Stronger burst motors and more batteries.

Also your weapon's extender work (steel things etc) is unnecesarily heavy.


hmm are you talking about the JX Burst motors. Ya your right about the steel extenders sometimes they don't retract back up, I was worried if I use any thing less they might not be durable, but ill do some trial runs with the other extenders.
Title: Angel Of War newer version
Post by: Viper89 on September 05, 2009, 01:54:36 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5975screenshot_51.png)
Armour and insides are still the same, I changed the the the two razor tips and 45kg hammer with 2 50kg hammer.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 05, 2009, 02:09:46 PM
It looks pretty nice.

However, it might be better with longer DSL bars and heavier hammers rather than 12 additional kgs of extenders and secondary weapons.

Remember, keep your extender work as light as possible.
Title: Had thought that crossed my mind
Post by: Viper89 on September 05, 2009, 06:09:36 PM
How many controls should a SNS have?. Mine has 2: forward and backwards, and the switch that make the bot spin. It feels like I'm missing one but I'm not sure, I'm new to making sns:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 05, 2009, 06:22:53 PM
You need Forward and LeftRight - Spin as well.

Also Spin is a button not a switch.

These bindings are for Pillar.py and FBS.PY - you can use Whipper that will use a smartzone, and no Spin command.

Get Phil's (and Mad's) AI-Chart-2.3 if you're starting to AI.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 05, 2009, 07:02:59 PM
Quote from: Naryar;64372
You need Forward and LeftRight - Spin as well.

Also Spin is a button not a switch.

These bindings are for Pillar.py and FBS.PY - you can use Whipper that will use a smartzone, and no Spin command.

Get Phil's (and Mad's) AI-Chart-2.3 if you're starting to AI.


hmmm left/right thats what I was missing(do you know what the config. would be for left/ right 2WD) "FacePalm". My bot spin's off of a Switch(counterclockwise). Maybe I should change it to a button I'm not sure how it would work with a button of the top of my head but I think it will become clearer when I go into the bot lab. I've not learned how to Ai yet but I want to learn very soon, I might try to AI the SNS first after I read the guide for it.
Title: NEW MW'S
Post by: Viper89 on September 07, 2009, 12:57:24 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/91413screenshot_52.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80912screenshot_53.png)
Armour 1mm titanium

This one of my favorites it's a SnS/Crawler Hybrid:evil:. Beats most of the middle weights and if it does lose it's only because it's gets out scored not destroyed, usally the HS"s  with the sledge hammers out score it.(It's never been destroyed not even close:evil:). I'm still trying to make the controlled movement better. It's also a Cube so it's between this and Angel Of War for CC3:smiley:.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60146screenshot_54.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/82041screenshot_55.png)
Armour: 1mm titanium
Just a fun little MW I made for online battle. I would like to know away to protect the motor better. All ears for tips and help:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 07, 2009, 05:01:22 AM
Since the hammers aren't going through the chassis, shrink its length a bit (but the not width, you're gonna need the wide stance). And try using the longest ME and attach the perm to that. Maybe you'll have the weight for the motor armor.
Title: Thanks
Post by: Viper89 on September 07, 2009, 12:09:32 PM
Quote from: Pwnator;64659
Since the hammers aren't going through the chassis, shrink its length a bit (but the not width, you're gonna need the wide stance). And try using the longest ME and attach the perm to that. Maybe you'll have the weight for the motor armor.


Ok ill try that and see if I have enough for motor armour:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Natef on September 07, 2009, 12:27:24 PM
No Mercy reminds me of Gohem from BBEANS 4.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: russian roulette on September 07, 2009, 12:31:20 PM
Mako remakes kill me.
1.Dsl tribars suck... hard
2. Add a static axe on your crawler so it is easier to control and it will be a torque reaction axe/ crawler/ SnS hybrid
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on September 07, 2009, 12:41:35 PM
Since tri bar is so bad, maybe you can have a dsl bar with 2 heavier hammer instead.

Is that a perm 80 or 132?

Perm 132 doesn't need to be protected, as for perm 80, it is best left inside the chassis.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 07, 2009, 01:10:08 PM
Man,Did it hurt faceing it.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: russian roulette on September 07, 2009, 01:15:11 PM
Ok I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Stop being vague with your posts, stop bumping and spamming, and stop posting junk that no one has any idea what you are talking about.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 07, 2009, 02:40:15 PM
lra2 please
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68966cb6fe651.gif)
edit:my new favorite .gif
Title: The Devil's Advocate
Post by: Viper89 on September 07, 2009, 06:06:44 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7205screenshot_53.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/3768screenshot_56.png)
Armour: Steel 3
I just Had to make another of these as HW. Updates: 32 maces ,NPC'S fast, more battery power, and the spin up time  twice as fast, all these ingrediants equal= Pure ownage:evil::evil::evil::evil::evil:. HW division beware muhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Also Am I the first person to make a bot like this I'm just curious :D.

@RR Can you please explain in depth more about the static axe and how it well help the control movement, I don't fully understand.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 07, 2009, 06:23:50 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/10980notgay.PNG)

Very nice name though.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 07, 2009, 06:32:26 PM
the static axe will be like a tail. pushing against the ground so you can acually use it to move forward.

that bot is tough! i battled him and it is extremely had to hit the chassis.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Flying_Chao on September 07, 2009, 07:33:12 PM
To answer your question, this kind of bot has been made before many times.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 07, 2009, 07:52:08 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;64864
the static axe will be like a tail. pushing against the ground so you can acually use it to move forward.

that bot is tough! i battled him and it is extremely had to hit the chassis.


I still don't see how it will work because the whole bot spins like a Vortex or Tornado, not in one direction. I have extra weight to work with so Ill give it a try and post results later:smiley:.

Quote from: Flying_Chao;64869
To answer your question, this kind of bot has been made before many times.


^^^^Dam  figures, I guess I'm not special no more:-(:-(:-(.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 07, 2009, 08:52:24 PM
Ok So I did the test with the Tail: And Guess what It dosent work just like I said:ermm:. The bot spins like a Vortex it does not move like a Crawler, only when hit and the spin is disrupted it acts like a crawler but then spins again(Alot of you by just looking at it think it's a Crawler, It is actully an SnS with Crawler traits"Hybrid"). Does anybody else have any ideas for better  controlled movement:smiley:.
Title: New version of No Mercy
Post by: Viper89 on September 08, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35263screenshot_57.png)
Insides and Armour still the same
Changed the 80 perm to 132 perm ,Got rid of the tribars for a dsl bar and threw a 100cm saw on for more weaponary and to possibly block things from hitting the perm.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: trumpetguy on September 08, 2009, 09:21:52 PM
Get rid of the saw.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 09, 2009, 06:24:49 AM
The saw is going trough the motor, use some kind of extender to attach it to so it doesnt if you want to keep it.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 09, 2009, 07:30:42 AM
Be sure to use a Perm 132 S, otherwise the HP's will decrease drastically.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 09, 2009, 10:56:29 AM
Quote from: somestrangeguy;65051
The saw is going trough the motor, use some kind of extender to attach it to so it doesnt if you want to keep it.


I think it's just the camera angle because if it was touching the motor I think it would come up red, but ill still look into it.

Quote from: Naryar;65055
Be sure to use a Perm 132 S, otherwise the HP's will decrease drastically.


Ya thats what I'm using:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 09, 2009, 10:59:12 AM
No, its definetly going trough the motor. The perms work in a strange way with sawblades, they allow them to be attached even is they go trough the motor.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 09, 2009, 11:02:36 AM
IS. GOING. THROUGH. THE. MOTOR.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 09, 2009, 01:17:49 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;64822
lra2 please
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68966cb6fe651.gif)
edit:my new favorite .gif


WHAT DID I DO WRONG?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 09, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
you were spamming and bumping
Title: Final version
Post by: Viper89 on September 09, 2009, 09:35:50 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/82231screenshot_58.png)

I just got rid of the saw completly and added stronger hammers. This is just a fun MW VS for online battle nothing serious.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: trumpetguy on September 09, 2009, 10:22:06 PM
If you want that to be serious then: center the DSL bar, and turn the hammer around, reminds me of Mini Destroyer.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 10, 2009, 01:06:28 AM
These plastic skirts still worry me a lot because if you lose one... welll you know what happens
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 10, 2009, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: life robot arena2;64781
Man,Did it hurt faceing it.


All i said there was it was tough to win against it.NOTHING WAS DAMED WRONG.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 10, 2009, 06:20:13 PM
Quote from: life robot arena2;65218
All i said there was it was tough to win against it.NOTHING WAS DAMED WRONG.


ok enough, stop arguing in my dam showcase make your own dam thread and argue in it:angry:.
Title: Hw division it's a Wrap :D
Post by: Viper89 on September 11, 2009, 04:30:05 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31310screenshot_59.png)

Final version with controlled movement, Thanks to Roboman who showed me on hamatchi how to do it:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 11, 2009, 05:02:04 PM
no problamo
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on September 11, 2009, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;64864

that bot is tough! i battled him and it is extremely had to hit the chassis.

was it that fight where i managed 2 knock him on his side?
Title: The New CC3 Champion lol
Post by: Viper89 on September 11, 2009, 10:15:01 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/33026screenshot_60.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70261screenshot_61.png)

Updates from the old one are: Armour Steel 1, NPC's Fast, 100cm discs with all maces filled in the slots,More battery power, and controlled movement:evil:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 11, 2009, 10:18:26 PM
you built a crawler...congrats?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 11, 2009, 10:21:30 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;65429
you built a crawler...congrats?


actually it's a SnS /Crawler hybrid because Crawlers don't spin they bounce around the arena(except S32's  version but that one sucked). Thanks for the compliment it means alot to me;).
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Urjak on September 11, 2009, 11:13:22 PM
The predictions were correct.... Bumble Bee did kick-start common Crawler building.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: trumpetguy on September 11, 2009, 11:15:52 PM
The Sir Killalot drill does not look center.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 11, 2009, 11:40:17 PM
Quote from: Urjak;65439
The predictions were correct.... Bumble Bee did kick-start common Crawler building.


This chassis along with everything else on the bot is nothing like Bumble Bee's:?. And it's not a Pure Crawler which Bumble Bee is("HyBrid"). Say what you people want I really don't care ,I'm going to make bots that are going to do good in Tourney's whether you and the Crawler Hate Fan Club likes it or not lol.

Quote from: trumpetguy;65440
The Sir Killalot drill does not look center.


Thank you are right, you have a good eye or I just wasn't paying attention to how I put it on;).
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Urjak on September 11, 2009, 11:53:48 PM
I'm not saying its a bad thing, just an observation.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: trumpetguy on September 11, 2009, 11:57:31 PM
Members in the club will really hate my NAR team's MW.....
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 12, 2009, 04:09:48 AM
Not when there are ice picks on it !

Also i will build a crawler team for v2...

...With consequent gay skins and names.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on September 12, 2009, 07:54:20 AM
Quote from: Viper89;65427
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/33026screenshot_60.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70261screenshot_61.png)

Updates from the old one are: Armour Steel 1, NPC's Fast, 100cm discs with all maces filled in the slots,More battery power, and controlled movement:evil:.


can't wait to fight it, viper. can we do an online match?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: trumpetguy on September 12, 2009, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: Naryar;65472
Not when there are ice picks on it !

Also i will build a crawler team for v2...

...With consequent gay skins and names.


Hehe true, but if I put something without normals then....
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 12, 2009, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: Naryar;65472
Also i will build a crawler team for v2...

...With consequent gay skins and names.


<3

you should do that with all SnSes tooooo.

No offense Urjak. I love all your DSL bots, I just hate all SnSes.
Title: New version
Post by: Viper89 on September 12, 2009, 06:29:01 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80848screenshot_62.png)

update from last one: Changed the wheels to Vlad for some weight, changed the plow for some weight, Armour now Steel 1 and added sturdier weapons.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 12, 2009, 07:03:14 PM
plow is angled
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Reier on September 12, 2009, 07:07:45 PM
And Swords < Vlad Spikes.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 12, 2009, 07:17:51 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;65706
plow is angled

ya I know I can't do anything about it though(see page one for explanation.)

Quote from: Reier;65708
And Swords < Vlad Spikes.


ya i know but the vlad spike been done before on LW"S so many time I wanted to do something different and the the swords have more Hp anyways;).
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: The Ounce on September 12, 2009, 07:24:08 PM
Quote from: Reier;65708
And Swords < Vlad Spikes.

I wouldn't say that, check the txt files.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 12, 2009, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: The Ounce;65714
I wouldn't say that, check the txt files.


Swords: 6400hp, Vlad pikes:5000 hp unless there is something wrong with my game;).
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Urjak on September 12, 2009, 07:40:51 PM
There is more to weapons than just HP.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 12, 2009, 07:44:19 PM
Quote from: Urjak;65723
There is more to weapons than just HP.


thnx I didn't realize that;). I wanted sturdier weapons that arent really used much so I went with the swords, it's better then the first setup so I really don't care between the Vlads and the Swords:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: The Ounce on September 12, 2009, 07:45:08 PM
I also noticed that vlad spikes have normals
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 12, 2009, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: The Ounce;65726
I also noticed that vlad spikes have normals


hmm I didn't know that, I always thought they weren't:?. I think I'm going to change Angel of Death And War then.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: R1885 on September 12, 2009, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: The Ounce;65726
I also noticed that vlad spikes have normals


They don't.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: The Ounce on September 12, 2009, 08:43:59 PM
Yeah I just noticed that, but I still prefer durable weapons on spinners, so it's your choice Viper.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 13, 2009, 12:55:07 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/27766screenshot_63.png)(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57639screenshot_64.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75920screenshot_65.png)



Wanted to make light weight version of the Hybrid's to end the series(Idk if I like D'Legend Killer or this better, their both my favorite LW'S:approve:.). It was actually kind of hard because when I started building I noticed it was very hard with 245 weight limit, so I coulden't do the things I wanted to do. Armour is ALM 1(worries me but it was a sacrifice I had to make), NPC normal, I couldent use maces because of the weight so I used light DSL Tooth's which I found to be quite destructive, I had to use Non armored wheel attachment because of the weight( Also worries me because of the Hp). I did battle trials with all the LW's, it beats all except Growler and Yu812, I guess it's just how the weapons and the armour is setup that give it problems. As for the name I thought it would be funny to name the bot After the person who hates these bot types the most, idk It made me laugh for a couple of minutes when I thought of it.:evil:. So Lady's and Gentleman your new BEANS6 champion InfinteInertia:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: The Ounce on September 13, 2009, 01:19:29 AM
Way to poke fun at him, build a SnS and name it after him as well, he'll love it (you spelt the first part of his name wrong, btw)!

And I know it's a crawler, but still try to minimize the empty space (obviously) and lighten up the extender work.

And Nary, there's no point in posting a "gay" joke, we all know it's coming :P
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Urjak on September 13, 2009, 01:42:51 AM
I'm definately not a big fan of crawlers in DSL, but Ounce is right. Try to minimize your empty space. The weapons look like they do decent damage.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 13, 2009, 03:07:17 AM
There is a lot of fail on that bot.

Though i will build a thing like this for NAR AI v2, and will try to AI it so it uses the torque reaction hammer... (the mace in that case)

Quote from: The Ounce;65800
Way to poke fun at him, build a SnS and name it after him as well, he'll love it (you spelt the first part of his name wrong, btw)!
 :P

Who wanted to reduce flame wars ??? HUH ???
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: The Ounce on September 13, 2009, 03:19:27 AM
I wasn't the one who wanted to reduce flame wars.  Sure I disliked it when others argued, but it was CHD that started the thread; I just happened to strongly agree with him.  Hardly anyone else agreed with us though and all of my suggestions pretty much failed, so I gave up... ...for now.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 13, 2009, 09:35:11 AM
Lol ya I did spell his name wrong but it was late so I didn't feel like redoing it. IT does look like so much fail but the bot is actually pretty good, I didn't know what to use for weapons so I went with the Light DSL tooth, Like urjack said it does good damage. @ Naryar I would love to see it when you are finished:-D and the AI because I would love to test against D'Legened killer. Also with the extra weight I'm going to change the armour to Titanium 1.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 13, 2009, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: Viper89;65163
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/82231screenshot_58.png)

I just got rid of the saw completly and added stronger hammers. This is just a fun MW VS for online battle nothing serious.


Hamma.Direction.Fail.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: cephalopod on September 13, 2009, 10:44:25 AM
Hammers have no normals.
LRA2.Comment.Fail.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 13, 2009, 10:48:20 AM
Oh.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 13, 2009, 11:05:54 AM
...

LRA2 fail 86.9% of the time
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 13, 2009, 11:41:20 AM
Well if its spinning upwards at the front, it would make more sense to have them otherway around, that way you would have more surface area hitting the enemy bot = more chance of getting a good hit.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 13, 2009, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: somestrangeguy;65969
Well if its spinning upwards at the front, it would make more sense to have them otherway around, that way you would have more surface area hitting the enemy bot = more chance of getting a good hit.


I've already changed the bot days ago I just never reposted, which I'm not going to any way beacause it's not a serious bot;).
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 14, 2009, 02:00:25 AM
LRA2 think before you post. The hammers are fine like that.
Title: How My Razors Taste 2
Post by: Viper89 on September 17, 2009, 03:05:52 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/13291screenshot_66.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23521screenshot_68.png)
Armour Steel 1
Made a bot in stock with the same name so I wanted to do it again in DSL. I used D'Legend Killer chassis. I need help, I don't know how to make it self right. Just a rough Draft for now.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 17, 2009, 03:07:51 PM
Stick a long extender off of the top of the bar...
That etec looks unprotected...
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 17, 2009, 03:17:03 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;66700
Stick a long extender off of the top of the bar...
That etec looks unprotected...


 The Etec is fine when the DSL Bar spins it dosen't get touched.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 17, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
A rammer might be able to hit it.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 17, 2009, 03:37:29 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;66706
A rammer might be able to hit it.


Do me a favor just stop posting in my showcase thanks.

Ill ask my question again does anybody know how I can make it self right or invertible :smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 17, 2009, 03:51:02 PM
look at my first post.
edit: you can also mount the wep on the lower etek attachment point, that will make the bot more stable.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 17, 2009, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;66715
look at my first post.
edit: you can also mount the wep on the lower etek attachment point, that will make the bot more stable.


Look at your first post??? all you say is put an extender on the top, you don't give a length or what type of an extender. I tried it and it dosent self right big suprise, and I don't care about the Eteck attachment point I'm fine with the way it is for now:ermm:. I really want no more input from you, go to someone elses showcase and Spam.

Somebody besides Roboman, Do you have any ideas on what I should change on how to make it self right or invertible
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 17, 2009, 04:15:42 PM
the extender will make ur bot not be totally upside down, it will make ur bot on its side and it will be able to get back up easaly from there.just look at some of the dsl ai.
(http://members.toast.net/joerger/HOF/MB200.jpg)
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Reier on September 17, 2009, 04:16:42 PM
Looks kinda impractical.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 17, 2009, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Reier;66726
Looks kinda impracticle.


hmm what do you mean by impracticle(not sure). It's just a rough draft for now just trying to get some ideas:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: MrRoboto75 on September 17, 2009, 04:34:27 PM
Roboman is relatively correct, perhaps your just not quite following him.  Take a good look a grog the vengeful or iron spaghetti.  simply attach an extender of some sort on the top of your spinner, so it dosen't land flatly on it's spinner.  Personally, I'd reccomend a poly skirt-type extender.  I'm guessing a good rule-of-thumb for the length would be equal to the radius of the spinner, or longer.

Then again, the examples I've mentioned are disk spinners, not bar.  General logic would say a bar is less likely to land flatly on the ground, and thus not needed

Anywho...
The bot does seem quite unique.  How well do the axles work?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 17, 2009, 04:36:09 PM
real life one
(http://members.toast.net/joerger/HOF/MB200.jpg)
super megabyte uses it, but the shaft is fixed like ziggos(ziggo also uses it.)
edit: hay viper, go on hamachi and we will fight.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 17, 2009, 05:04:39 PM
Quote from: MrRoboto75;66751
Roboman is relatively correct, perhaps your just not quite following him.  Take a good look a grog the vengeful or iron spaghetti.  simply attach an extender of some sort on the top of your spinner, so it dosen't land flatly on it's spinner.  Personally, I'd reccomend a poly skirt-type extender.  I'm guessing a good rule-of-thumb for the length would be equal to the radius of the spinner, or longer.

Then again, the examples I've mentioned are disk spinners, not bar.  General logic would say a bar is less likely to land flatly on the ground, and thus not needed

Anywho...
The bot does seem quite unique.  How well do the axles work?


The bot does not selfright like the shell spinners you mention simply because of the wedje setup and if I'm lucky it takes about 20-25 sec which by then by any good bot will pwn me. I might get rid of the wedjes but I want to find a way to keep them and have it selfright also. The axles work great it gives the weapons good angles:evil:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 17, 2009, 05:09:39 PM
just try the axle or sheet wedge thing
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 17, 2009, 05:28:17 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;66764
just try the axle or sheet wedge thing


^^^ What the fu** does that mean I don't speak Robo Douch Language. Your really Testing My fu*****  patience, Stop posting in my Showcase I don't care what you have to say anymore AT ALL, So there is no reason for you anymore to post in my showcase because you won't get a Fu***** reply back:angry:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 17, 2009, 05:29:22 PM
************************************************************sh**sh**sh******
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Reier on September 17, 2009, 05:41:27 PM
:angry: Please quit the language all you guys!
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: LiNcK on September 17, 2009, 05:41:29 PM
20cm Plastic sheet weights the same (I think) as a plastic extender, But its longer.
Also, Just coz Roboman is a spammer doesnt mean EVERYTHING he writes is spam, Hes wrong/annoying most of the time but he might also be right sometimes :P
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 17, 2009, 05:44:22 PM
thank you^^
now im just feling like my life is the suckiest of all, i have no friends. gametechmods.com was a place that i could enjoy(untill inf started harassing me.)
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 17, 2009, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: LiNcK;66788
20cm Plastic sheet weights the same (I think) as a plastic extender, But its longer.

Ok but where should I place them on top?

Also, Just coz Roboman is a spammer doesnt mean EVERYTHING he writes is spam, Hes wrong/annoying most of the time but he might also be right sometimes :P

^^^ I really don't care.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 17, 2009, 06:18:02 PM
:pissd:wow u r nice
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Urjak on September 17, 2009, 06:44:55 PM
Everyone calm down! I am beggining to agree with Roboman, some of you guys are harrasing him for no reason. If you don't agree with the advice he gives, ignore it, but don't start attacking him for it.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 17, 2009, 06:53:36 PM
thank you^^
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 17, 2009, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: Urjak;66809
Everyone calm down! I am beggining to agree with Roboman, some of you guys are harrasing him for no reason. If you don't agree with the advice he gives, ignore it, but don't start attacking him for it.


^^^I bet if he was doing this in yours or Reier's Showcase you two woulden't find it so funny now would you? Harrasing him  huh, I simply asked him nicely the first time stop posting in my showcase yet he keeps posting in my showcase things that don't even make sense and is a waste of thread space. If he was so concerned about not be harrassed then he would of took the hint the first time Right?. Obviously that is not the case he just keeps posting just to piss me off so he just going to get pissed off Viper Reply's. Enough with this clown, I don't want to hear any more about him in my thread if you guys feel so  bad for him make your own thread"I feel Bad for Roboman244" and post there, all I want is help with my bots specifically with the Self righting for the new one I posted and still 3 wasted pages later I still have no solution.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Urjak on September 17, 2009, 07:07:40 PM
Quote from: Viper89;66815
^^^I bet if he was doing  in yours or Reier's Showcase you two woulden't find it so funny now would you? Harrasing him  huh, I simply asked him nicely the first time stop posting in my showcase yet he keeps posting in my showcase things they don't even make sense and is a waste of thread space. If he was so concerned about not be harrassed then would of took the hint the first time Right?. Obviously that is not the case he just keeps posting just to piss me off so he just going to get pissed of Viper Reply's. Enough with this clown, I don't want to hear any more about him in my thread if you guys feel so  bad for him make your own thread"I feel Bad for Roboman244" and post there, all I want is help with my bots specifically with the Self righting for the new one I posted and still 3 wasted pages later I still have no solution.


Well, I do not want to argue in your showcase, so this will be my last post here on the subject. I do not find it funny, nor would I ever find it funny that somebody would be bashed nearly evertime he posts. I respect your desire for him to not post in your showcase, but this is a forum, and thus a place where anybody can post on any thread.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on September 17, 2009, 09:22:01 PM
You might want to stick an extender on top of the bar, and have a static srimech, like the DSL Tornado.

Also, that Etek looks mighty exposed...
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 17, 2009, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: R0B0SH4RK;66836
You might want to stick an extender on top of the bar, and have a static srimech, like the DSL Tornado.

Also, that Etek looks mighty exposed...


Thank youuuuuuuu:smiley:, I'm not sure what the DSL Tornado looks like but ill look it up in the game.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 18, 2009, 05:28:36 AM
Viper stop bashing rm2444 because he's the scapegoat of the week, he was absolutely RIGHT on your bot.

_____

EDIT: On topic, about your bot, 5 ants will be enough for it.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 18, 2009, 10:34:56 AM
Quote from: Naryar;66877
Viper stop bashing rm2444 because he's the scapegoat of the week, he was absolutely RIGHT on your bot.

_____

EDIT: On topic, about your bot, 5 ants will be enough for it.


I'm not bashing him because he scapegoat of the week or what ever, And he is NOT RIGHT because the way he said does not work and if does it's 25sec later(tested many times in battle) and by then the bot would of already been destroyed:ermm:.

Ill try the 5 ants:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Clickbeetle on September 19, 2009, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: Viper89;66697
I used D'Legend Killer chassis.


AKA Microwhirl's chassis...

Don't think I wouldn't recognize my own bot's chassis and component setup.  It's OK though, as long as you change it up enough.

Advice for HMRT2: The E-tek has two attach points on the axle, one high and one low.  Try using the low one.  The weapon will hit more stuff and the bot will also be more stable.

Putting some kind of extender or spike on top of the bar SHOULD help it self right.  It doesn't have to be long, a 20 cm extender or a Typhoon spike should do.  That pretty much always works on any bot with a two-ended bar.  The only reason I can think of that it wouldn't work is that the bot is so tall.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 19, 2009, 09:27:20 PM
Ya it is microwhirl chassis the only thing I kept the same was the drive from the chassis on this bot so it's somewhat different:smiley:. As for HMRST I'm almost to the point of scrapping it because of the invertible issue I've been trying many things on top to get it to work but nothing seems to work. I'll try it again with the 20cm extender and the spike and see what happens.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 20, 2009, 05:29:07 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/54931screenshot_67.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23022screenshot_69.png)

Armour Steel 1

1.To start off I know bear claws are normals. 2. I don't care, it goes with the name. 3. This is my first popup at least I think it's a popup(maybe side popup) and I wanted to do something different, this probally the only one I'm going to do with the bear claws the rest from hear on out are going to be with razors. Idk open for tips for improvement:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: MrRoboto75 on September 20, 2009, 06:27:46 PM
It ain't a popup.  Its actually an unorthodox whammer/ side hammer hybrid.  Pretty innovative.

The razors on the hammers seem to make the bear claws useless, other than that, quite nice.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: The Ounce on September 20, 2009, 06:49:49 PM
Off topic, but...
Quote from: Clickbeetle;67363
Don't think I wouldn't recognize my own bot's chassis and component setup.
I actually have proof that you wouldn't:
Quote from: Clickbeetle;34420
So it comes down to a single battle axe versus eight iron spikes on a fast vertical spinner.
I thought Heaven's Sawmill had 16 irons. :P

On topic:

If you take a look at Razorback v2 in Nar AI, you'll see that it's a true popup/wammer hybrid, you could take some ideas from that.  Maybe you could replace the front razors with spike strips, or other flat weapons, to allow the hammers to come into play a bit more.  Try different weapons on the hammers and see which ones will allow them to hit at the same time for bigger hits.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 20, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
Sorry guys I wasn't sure if it was a popup or not:redface:. I will look at the Nar Ai when I get a chance. The razors actually don't make the bearclaws useless they pretty much hit at the same time, but I see what you guys are saying. I know there is alot of better combos with the hammers but I want to stick with the bear claws because of the name and also this is just another fun online bot nothing serious obviously because of the bear claws;).
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 20, 2009, 10:31:21 PM
NAR AI SaberTeeth is closer to this than Razorback. And the diagonal popup design on it should fit more.

Assassinweight??? LOL
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 21, 2009, 10:39:56 AM
Quote from: Naryar;67574
NAR AI SaberTeeth is closer to this than Razorback. And the diagonal popup design on it should fit more.

Assassinweight??? LOL


Is the Nar AI like the Dsl one, What I mean by this is do you install them the same way.(i've never tried anything else other than the Dsl so I'm not sure)
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 21, 2009, 11:26:57 AM
download it, there is a readme and instructions in the RAR.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: tankcat on September 21, 2009, 02:47:04 PM
I agree with roboman2444, months from now people will realize how useful his timeless advice really is. God bless you roboman2444, shame Viper89, shame on you and your family
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 21, 2009, 05:54:38 PM
Quote from: tankcat;67701
I agree with roboman2444, months from now people will realize how useful his timeless advice really is. God bless you roboman2444, shame Viper89, shame on you and your family


First of all  you don't know me or my family so STFU. 2nd Are you somebody I'm suppossed to know??? lol now I remeber you, your that clown that called INF out in that thread talking all types of sh!t claiming your HS was better and then got "owned" and then dissapered for  2 month's with your Butt buddy Moonbear(Now I see, it took that long for your ego to healBig-OHH),Shame on you Stankcat:lol:
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Reier on September 21, 2009, 06:01:36 PM
Who's Stankcat?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Urjak on September 21, 2009, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: Reier;67742
Who's Stankcat?


I wonder...
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: roboman2444 on September 21, 2009, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: tankcat;67701
I agree with roboman2444, months from now people will realize how useful his timeless advice really is. God bless you roboman2444, shame Viper89, shame on you and your family
yay at least someone thinks im good :D

edit: yay were both inf haters!
we should have a battle of hses on hamachi
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 21, 2009, 06:54:38 PM
^^^^ Really Robo you coulden't have just sent him a pm. Instead lets just waste post space Right??? I see you still trying to get your post count up with worthless posts  :(. And you wonder why I don't like you anymore.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: MrRoboto75 on September 21, 2009, 07:04:54 PM
Quote from: Viper89;67753
lets just waste post space Right???


The whole flame war is a waste of post space.  This is a showcase.  For bots.  What the heck does post count matter, anyway?

Roboman didn't cause any problems, at least that I can see.  He tried to give you simple advice.  It didn't work.  You got P.O.'d at him randomly.  if it doesn't work, move on.

This type of intolerance vexes me to no end.  I just don't get it.  Lighten up.  If this continues, don't expect me to help you out anytime in the future.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 21, 2009, 07:24:11 PM
MrRoboto75;67756]The whole flame war is a waste of post space.  This is a showcase.  For bots.  What the heck does post count matter, anyway?

Really I didn't know this was showcase,Post count matters to Robo thats why he has so many "Worthless Posts".

Roboman didn't cause any problems, at least that I can see.  He tried to give you simple advice.  It didn't work.  You got P.O.'d at him randomly.  if it doesn't work, move on.

No I was not P.O.D at him randomly, he does this to other people showcases to not just mine thats what pisses me off, I've been moved  on with this until Stankcat brought it back up.

This type of intolerance vexes me to no end.  I just don't get it.  Lighten up.  If this continues, don't expect me to help you out anytime in the future.

I'll lighten up when I stop getting "Worthless Posts" in my Fu***** showcase. And do you think for one minute I give a dam  if "YOU" help me out in the future:ermm:.

@ everybody because this is getting so irratating with these stupid off topic posts. If you don't have any advice about bots then Seriously don't post here because I don't want to hear it at all "Thanks"
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Flying_Chao on September 21, 2009, 08:18:54 PM
Do you honestly think Tankcat's post was serious?
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 21, 2009, 08:21:40 PM
Quote from: Flying_Chao;67769
Do you honestly think Tankcat's post was serious?


@ everybody because this is getting so irratating with these stupid off topic posts. If you don't have any advice about bots then Seriously don't post here because I don't want to hear it at all "Thanks"
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 21, 2009, 08:25:12 PM
Tankcat and Roboman are proven morons and Viper is a good guy.

stop it everyone, its no use.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: tankcat on September 21, 2009, 09:55:43 PM
Quote from: Viper89;67740
First of all  you don't know me or my family so STFU. 2nd Are you somebody I'm suppossed to know??? lol now I remeber you, your that clown that called INF out in that thread talking all types of sh!t claiming your HS was better and then got "owned" and then dissapered for  2 month's with your Butt buddy Moonbear(Now I see, it took that long for your ego to healBig-OHH),Shame on you Stankcat:lol:


First of all, moonbear is in Fort Benning, GA, training for active infantry in the army for 13 weeks. He requested to ship off to Iraq so that douchebag egotistic fuсkers like you can continue living in this country, so that people like you and infiniteinertia can continue making your sh** assumptions and your sh** "contributions" to a 100 or less active member community that STRUGGLES to survive, despite your countless ridicules and bullsh** flames of members who only WANT to become half as "good" quote unquote as people like infiniteinertia.

You take my light sarcasm as a reason to personally attack me, when I have personally done nothing to you. I am so tired of the lack of etiquette that the "higher" members refuse to show.

Continue exercising your right to free speech, if only people like Viper89 knew how to use it properly.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 21, 2009, 10:10:58 PM
I apoligize for what I said about moonbear because My best friend is fighting in Iraq right now and I have great respect for the American Troops.

I guess I took your post in the wrong way becuase I thought you were serious so I apoglize for the stankcat comment. I was pissed because I've been over with the roboman subject and you brought it back up and I'm sick of worthless posts in my showcase I just want to learn and get better like everybody else , so when I get dumb posts in my showcase it pisses me off. For now on post tips on how to make my bots better and we will be cool:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: R1885 on September 21, 2009, 10:33:05 PM
Iraq is a war we shouldn't be fighting in the first place.
I HATE the line, "I support the troops".
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on September 22, 2009, 12:48:43 AM
Blame that on the voters, or the politicians, just not the troops.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 22, 2009, 06:10:41 AM
...STOP THIS EVERYONE.

This is a showcase, not some thread to throw off random taunts and insults.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: JoeBlo on September 22, 2009, 06:36:50 AM
thank you Naryar..

political stuff > politics threads
fighting > somewhere other then GTM

:-D
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Reier on September 22, 2009, 08:15:31 AM
Yeah, y'all shatup.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 22, 2009, 11:23:39 AM
Good lord,If i WAS able to delete that spam,I,d delete it ALL.
Title: How My Razors Taste 3
Post by: Viper89 on September 22, 2009, 12:41:24 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50403screenshot_71.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8058screenshot_72.png)
Armour titainum 5mm

I was pretty upset with all the fail in How My Razors Taste 2, So i during Psyc class this morning day dreaming I came up with this. Drive: NPC's fast with Tornado's. It's sort of a gut ripper face spinner hybrid:smiley:. The only problem with it is it tips back when droven. I'm not to broken up about that because it's just a rough draft:smiley:. So I'm all ears for tips on the tipping and other help. I'm putting this in Red CAP letters because everything after my apology and Nary's post was "Worthless Posts" so thanks idiots for adding more to my showcase.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ADVISE ABOUT MY BOTS, THEN DON'T POST IN MY SHOW CASE I DON'T CARE ABOUT ROBOMAN, POLITICAL VIEWS OR ANYTHING ELSE. STOP DOING IT TO MY SHOWCASE BECAUSE i DON'T DO IT TO "ANY" OF YOURS THANKS.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on September 22, 2009, 12:41:46 PM
Every extra post about "not spamming" is yet another spam.  I thought we got the pattern already.  This includes my post itself of course.

A mod should delete all the spam along with all the "do not spam" messages.  But if that's not possible, please do not post anymore non showcase related comment after this one.  If you have something to say about this particular message and must comment on it publicly then go make a topic on the general discussion session.

BTW, what weapon motors are those?  Normal or Fast?

I think you can help the tipping problem by moving the driving motors back.  You probably also want some kind of back extender so when someone ram you head on you don't just tip over.

You can probably get the extra KG by removing some of those red batteries.  I don't see any burst motor in your bot so there's no need to meet the amp requirement.  Just ant should be fine.

The aluminum extender connecting the 2 plows doesn't look very well protected.  If you anticipate it getting it, then a DSL bar would be better.  If not, then I guess aluminum or even polycarbonate would do just fine.

One last thing, vlad is a better wheel than tornado.  You get 500 more HP, same grip, and cost 2kg less.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 22, 2009, 12:45:34 PM
Every extra post about "not spamming" is yet another spam.  I thought we got the pattern already.  This includes my post itself of course.

A mod should delete all the spam along with all the "do not spam" messages.  But if that's not possible, please do not post anymore non showcase related comment after this one.  If you have something to say about this particular message and must comment on it publicly then go make a topic on the general discussion session.

^^^^ exactly:smiley:.

BTW, what weapon motors are those?  Normal or Fast?

NPC normals, any ideas about the tipping. Edit: Nvm I seen you edit your post :D
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 22, 2009, 12:58:13 PM
Reply to comment on the batteries, How many ants would be suffient for this type of bot. Also thanks for the other info it is very helpful:smiley:.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: RedSawn on September 22, 2009, 01:05:15 PM
HMRT3...  Hmm, those screenshot angles are a bit poor. I can't tell what the wedge is like. Worried about such a tall setup.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on September 22, 2009, 01:14:59 PM
Quote from: Viper89;67878
Reply to comment on the batteries, How many ants would be suffient for this type of bot. Also thanks for the other info it is very helpful:smiley:.

I "overpowered" my bot with 2 etek drive and 2 etek weapon with 7 ant.  It wouldn't even used up half way for the whole round.

2 npc fast and 3 npc normal?  Maybe around 6?  You can always add more if you find that you are running out during a match, or less if you find yourself with too much power.

And if you worry about motor speed, here's an experiment you can do.  Try driving around @ testing area with all your batteries, then, take out all of them and leave maybe 3 or 4 ants, and drive around again.  See if you can notice a difference.  There should only be 1 drop off point where battery power affects motor speed.  Last I check with 2 etek it was from 2 ants to 1 ant batteries.

I just notice something.  Get rid of those multi extender in the middle of the disk.  They got 375 hp and they can break before your razor does.  Replace it with either beater bar, or just take out the one razor in the middle entirely (usually the middle one hardly deals damage anyway).
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 22, 2009, 10:13:57 PM
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I changed the wheels to Vlads, changed the plows(not permant though still deciding), solved te tipping problem with a skirt hinge in the back. Also the extenders with the razors on them don't fall of before the razors do so there staying. A problem I came across is that the front wedjes kind of suck. What I mean by this is they get under some bots and when it does it gut rips really well, but other bots out wedje it. Is there a trick on how to make skirt wedjes better or out wedje other wedje bots?. Edit: lol there is still 3 light dsl teeth on each panel the camera angle made the front ones invisible.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on September 22, 2009, 11:21:59 PM
I think metal hinge wedge are just better than skirt hinge wedge.  While that doesn't mean you can't build a bot with skirt hinge that can get under a metal hinge, it does means that if you have two identical bots, with the only difference being that one is using metal hinge wedge and the other using skirt hinge wedge, the metal hinge wedge will win most of the time.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 23, 2009, 01:30:57 AM
NPCs are DRIVE motors... not WEAPON motors.

You should as well put your spinners at the front (means better wedge) and i am pretty sure an uneven number of face spinners lower stability (slightly) and wedginess as well.

Put Technos on this, because it's too slow for being a good gut ripper as well. You need stronger drivetrain to get the enemy bot on the spinners.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Condor33 on September 23, 2009, 07:49:59 AM
Use magmotors instead of NPCs for the spinners, and you'll be able to get better wedges with the weight.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 23, 2009, 12:08:44 PM
Can somebody list what motors are considered weapon motors. I always just use  whatever but it would be nice to know for a future Reference:-D.
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on September 23, 2009, 02:29:53 PM
I have made a list of motor stats (among other things) here

https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2402
Title: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on September 27, 2009, 01:08:48 PM
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I changed the side plows for more weight, changed the wheels to technos@Nary you were right it makes a big difference with getting bots on top:smiley:. Put a medium plow to trap bots, got rid of the the front pannels with the light DSl teeth because thet were blocking bots from getting up the wedjes, Thanks 123savethewhales for the weapon motor guide, which I changed the NPC to TWMR(I think thats what they are). I Also found a better solution for the wedjes they work alot better know. It can beat Shebeast so I'm satisfied because shebeast is a decent bot. There is also always room for improvement so I'm all ears:-D.
Title: Brushing away the Cobwebs in my showcase
Post by: Viper89 on February 25, 2010, 06:37:03 PM
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This is my first BW and plan on making a HS and a poker. I was trying to make a BW Legend Killer but it was to hard. So I made BW Rammer. Armour Alum. 1, it beats all the BW the only one that gives me problems sometimes is Micro Whirl. Always open for ideas.
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on February 25, 2010, 10:47:16 PM
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The insides are the same except I got rid of a ant battery. Armour Titanium 1. Gonna work on some HS's, Hammers and Poker's. Please I haven't posted in this showcase sense Sept 2009" I want some Dam opinions/ ideas :evilsmile: "
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Thyrus on February 25, 2010, 10:50:07 PM
so you`re going to enter more tourneys?

looks quite good to me.
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on February 26, 2010, 05:25:24 AM
It's not bad but you are wasting weight with extenders.
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on February 26, 2010, 06:15:46 AM
The angle connector can be replaced with a polycarbonate extender to save weight.
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Naryar on February 26, 2010, 06:25:14 AM
The lightest solution is still a skirt hinge with heavier weapons on it (i call 3 killalot drills), heck with just a multi-extender you might even be able to put a 70kg hammer on this...it would be unsymmetrical though, so maybe a 60kg one with either more armor or drive.
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on February 26, 2010, 10:23:24 AM
The lightest solution is still a skirt hinge with heavier weapons on it (i call 3 killalot drills), heck with just a multi-extender you might even be able to put a 70kg hammer on this...it would be unsymmetrical though, so maybe a 60kg one with either more armor or drive.

Hmm skirt hinge and three Killalot drills I like the sound of that I'm going to try that. I knew I could count on you to post some ideas :smile: .
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on February 26, 2010, 10:22:50 PM
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I think I created a BW Masterpiece :evilsmile: . Amour:Titanium 1. It has good weapons that deal good damage plus their very sturdy for this weight class, It has good defense "2 layers" and Invertible.Lol looking at the rest of the competition I feel very confident with this bot and I know Craaig won't disappoint either, Just touching up the Ai now.@ The Competition If you guys aren't worried you should start worrying " The Assassin Is Back Suckers :mrgreen: " Edit: Also with the edition of the hammer it really does look like a beetle haha . (The end parts of the hammer resembles bug eyes)
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on February 27, 2010, 03:46:24 AM
Bug eyes lawl.

Anyway, you'll only need 2 ants for this and you can still shrink the part at the front and near the drive. Which means you can probably use a Hammer1 or upgrade the armor. :D
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Somebody on February 27, 2010, 07:47:42 AM
The beater bar is kinda worthless there. It just makes bots not hit the hammer. I would...
Replace battlepack with 2 ants, Put on Hammer 1, and then see what you can do with it.
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on February 27, 2010, 07:48:31 AM
Bug eyes lawl.

Anyway, you'll only need 2 ants for this and you can still shrink the part at the front and near the drive. Which means you can probably use a Hammer1 or upgrade the armor. :D

Ok thanks for the advice. I got a question. Even with the battle pak battery it still seems like the battery is draining quickly. Are 2 ants more sufficient then a Battle pak and does driving the bot manually have more of an effect on draining the battery then if an AI did?
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on February 27, 2010, 07:53:39 AM
Bug eyes lawl.

Anyway, you'll only need 2 ants for this and you can still shrink the part at the front and near the drive. Which means you can probably use a Hammer1 or upgrade the armor. :D

Ok thanks for the advice. I got a question. Even with the battle pak battery it still seems like the battery is draining quickly. Are 2 ants more sufficient then a Battle pak and does driving the bot manually have more of an effect on draining the battery then if an AI did?


It's one ant to run a motor and two to make it spin for the duration of the whole match. So 2 ants > 1 battlepack. :D
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on February 27, 2010, 08:05:07 AM
Bug eyes lawl.

Anyway, you'll only need 2 ants for this and you can still shrink the part at the front and near the drive. Which means you can probably use a Hammer1 or upgrade the armor. :D

Ok thanks for the advice. I got a question. Even with the battle pak battery it still seems like the battery is draining quickly. Are 2 ants more sufficient then a Battle pak and does driving the bot manually have more of an effect on draining the battery then if an AI did?


It's one ant to run a motor and two to make it spin for the duration of the whole match. So 2 ants > 1 battlepack. :D

Ok cool I never knew that, As for the beater bars I just put it on to add a layer to the hammer and at 10kg was the only weapon that didn't completely block the hammer. It's not as worthelss as you think I managed to get 3000 hit once in a match but that happen once and I really don't how that happen lol. How the front is setup and how short the bar is they hit at the same time more often then you think. But yes I will try Hammer1 and see which setup is better :smile: .Edit: I tried Hammer 1 and didn't like. 1 it didn't work with the front setup I had to remove the Emergency panels. 2 don't feel like trying to rebuild front setup for Hammer 1 just for a measely 1000 more HP. 3 Like any of the BW's in this tourney are gonna be able to knock that 9000HP Hammer off anyway :p . I did change the Battery to 2 ants and performance is better .
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Somebody on February 27, 2010, 10:05:14 AM
Alright then whatever works for you.
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on February 27, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
I just finished AI'ing and would like to make a special thanks to Nary, Pwn, and Somebody for your tips and help with My BW. The BW TagTeam Tourney is going to have their hands full with WAR Beetle, I almost feel kinda a bad for entering this because the 1st Degree Rape that this bot is about to deliver in this Tourney will probably get me 20 years to life haha  :evilsmile: .
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Clickbeetle on February 27, 2010, 10:31:12 PM
Why do so many people like to use Microwhirl's chassis?  You could make something more efficient than that.


That looks like a good rammer, but like any rammer you have to be wary of wedges, so don't get too confident just yet.
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Viper89 on February 27, 2010, 11:32:26 PM
Why do so many people like to use Microwhirl's chassis?  You could make something more efficient than that.


That looks like a good rammer, but like any rammer you have to be wary of wedges, so don't get too confident just yet.
Ha I knew you post about the Microwhirl chassis you did the last time with Legend Killer, Honestly when it come to chassis building I'm lazy nor not any good at any way so I just use already made chassis. Sometimes I look at a chassis and ideas just come to me.
Well i was going to make a BW Legend killer( My original bot that used the Micro whirl chassis) but I just gave up and made a rammer. And believe me it is very efficient and don't let the look of the bot fool you. Not really worried about wedges because the bottom emergency panel/ skirt thingy acts like one. Well if you knew most of the competition and seen how it performs AI'ed you would be just as confident. When the Tag Team BW tourney starts make sure you watch my match, Me and Craaig by the looks of it is going to be the first match. All your question marks will be answered with exclamation marks I promise you that :evilsmile: .
Title: Re: Viper's Dsl Showcase
Post by: Urjak on February 27, 2010, 11:56:55 PM
When the Tag Team BW tourney starts make sure you watch my match, Me and Craaig by the looks of it is going to be the first match. All your question marks will be answered with exclamation marks I promise you that :evilsmile: .
I am going to laugh SO hard if your bot is obliterated first round.  :mrgreen: