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« on: May 28, 2009, 09:59:30 PM »
This is a little underpowered and I diobeyed the rule not to use weapon motors for wheels, well my 1st DSL bot

One battlepack....atleast it lasted around a minute and a half
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1:Used swords
2.Used extended bear claws
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2009, 10:08:31 PM »
reminds me of my latest bot I showcased in DSL, SSG and Naryar said the Piglets are a waste, 2 wheel drive TWMR are better

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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2009, 10:13:49 PM »
They're fast especially for lower weight classes ,but its still a weapon motor

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 10:16:48 PM »
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They're fast especially for lower weight classes ,but its still a weapon motor


not really
piglets have low torque meaning not so good for drive
try to use twm3r drive motors
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2009, 10:25:40 PM »
I made this one in 30 min. 5mm plastic or alim I forgot

p.s. I changed the motor thanks for the tip but I had to exchange the battlepack for an ant battery I am also planning to exchange the weapon motor for less weight

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2009, 11:16:01 PM »
bit unrealsitic.
the spinner goes though the batts
try to use vlads wheel as they are gripper and use the right npc and the left npc for the drive as because right now it is unbalanced
also try to put a wedge in there
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2009, 11:16:03 PM »
Old one I found it was in the robot design folder, the mispelling was on purpose

A surprise popup

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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009, 11:18:32 PM »
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Old one I found it was in the robot design folder, the mispelling was on purpose
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A surprise popup


ok
loads of empty space in the chassis. in other words weight wasted
add more batts as it looks underpowered. invested more weight into the weapon and try to add a wedge
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2009, 11:19:34 PM »
I was trying to make a lightweight 248 kg

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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2009, 11:21:35 PM »
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I was trying to make a lightweight 248 kg


just giving u some tips

u could still make it a lightweight if the chassis wasnt so big though
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2009, 11:23:57 PM »
true...this is an old bot could use a few improvments

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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2009, 11:26:32 PM »
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true...this is an old bot could use a few improvments


yeah.

btw try browsing other peoples showcases. it might give u some ideas
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2009, 12:04:18 AM »
Good you are designing your chassis around your components, not throwing a bunch of stuff in a huge ass chassis like most newbies...

Anyways:

-Your HS is probably the most underpowered DSL bot i've ever seen. At least 2 battlepacks and 2 ants for that. And DSL bars with hammers are probably the best weapon on HS.

-Your VS is HIGHLY overpowered. 7-8 ants would be enough. Also try to avoid weapons with normals (as axes and pole spikes since they only do damage in one direction) in DSL.
 
-Your popup is underpowered, and all decent or good LW popups use only 1 burst motor as weapon both in stock and DSL.

And i think that all of Doomkiller's advice in this showcase is good.

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2009, 11:47:43 PM »
AZN Phailure IV 5mm plastic a less powerful weapon motor but less weight (hammers are too heavy)

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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2009, 11:53:52 PM »
Not that bad, but not that good either.

You are using bear claws, which have normals (it means it only causes damage at the tips). Use 2 NPC motors instead (fast versions if possible) so you can have a smaller chassis (you can put them slightly outside the chassis). And since your weapon reach is quite long, you can use a smaller DSL bar, use an extender and point it down, and add the 30kg sledges (25 if you're short on weight). And don't underpower the bot more than 50% of its output.

[Edit] Crap. Edited out wrong advice. XD
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2009, 12:02:08 AM »
Ok, my bots are now improved of course there is no such thing as a perfect bot
I'm tired of making improvements, so heres Mad Box

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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2009, 12:13:27 AM »
Hmmm... I think 2 Drive E-teks is enough for that. Upgrade the weapon motor because I doubt that you can self-right with that. And tribars are weak, to it's better to use DSL bars with stronger weapons.

And ditch the extender from the drive to the baseplate. You can connect the drive directly anyway.
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2009, 01:30:39 AM »
Not too bad.

But a 150+ kg weapon is too much on a E-tek, also that weapon isn't a lot on a SHW, and Pwn's right again, that drive is a lot for a SHW VS.

EDIT: Pwnator, the angled Magmotors are drive motors, not weapon ones.

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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2009, 10:59:04 AM »
I changed the dual z-tek with two perms meaning 4 DSL bars with cutting tooth spinning. But are you saying I should replace the z-tek drives?

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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2009, 09:19:25 PM »
Not to replace, but just cut down on it. Use 2 instead of 4.
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