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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2015, 06:47:02 PM »
hypnos aint worth it on bots lighter than mw

try some lighter wheels for stronger weapons
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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2015, 08:58:29 AM »
I made a CW.  Do people make those?



5 ants, two flamethrowers, titanium 1, probably bad.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2015, 09:09:29 AM »
I like it, but I'll admit I forgot CWs were a thing :P
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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2015, 10:15:58 AM »
Has it been tested yet? I wanna hear how much carnage it can create :3

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2015, 12:04:05 PM »
I tried it against a MW and it did okay, but as far as I'm aware I don't actually have any CWs downloaded and AIed and all that.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2015, 12:05:33 PM »
drive should be 2WD Techno drive really.

never use smaller airtanks if possible.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2015, 12:39:17 PM »
I like it. Just saying. It looks balanced.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2015, 12:56:23 PM »
also dem flippermakers. they're not an obvious weakspot, but they're still one.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2015, 06:26:50 PM »
Made it into a MW:



(Well the game thinks it's a HW but it's exactly 399.0 kg so I think that's ok?  It's got steel 1 armor so I could downgrade it to titanium 1 if need be.)

It's got this weird problem where, right as the match starts it can drive in a perfect straight line.  After it turns at all, though, it suddenly can't drive a straight line at all.  Any ideas?

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2015, 06:53:50 PM »
try to remove a wheel, prepare yourself to place it, spin the wheel on the motor axle, then place it ?

if it doesn't work retry. for both wheels.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2015, 07:10:00 PM »
Naryar, whatever kind of voodoo that was, it seems to have fixed the driving for the most part.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2015, 07:12:10 PM »
Naryar, whatever kind of voodoo that was, it seems to have fixed the driving for the most part.

You are speaking to seven years of experience.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2015, 07:24:32 PM »
Left/right veering when driving forward is determined by weight distribution at the moment you attach your wheels. You can't seriously be getting this wrong after "seven years of experience" Naryar.
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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2015, 07:35:41 PM »
Left/right veering when driving forward is determined by weight distribution at the moment you attach your wheels. You can't seriously be getting this wrong after "seven years of experience" Naryar.

Really ? Because spinning wheels differently DOES make a difference.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2015, 08:19:20 PM »
Left/right veering when driving forward is determined by weight distribution at the moment you attach your wheels. You can't seriously be getting this wrong after "seven years of experience" Naryar.

Really ? Because spinning wheels differently DOES make a difference.
You can test it out for yourself. Put your drive+batt+CB in an empty chassis and put on your wheels, then put a bunch of ballast (!!!) on one side of the chassis. It won't veer when you test it.
Then take the wheels off and put them on again while the chassis weight is still unbalanced. It'll veer in the direction you put the weight in.
RA2 takes a measure of what the weight distribution is when you put on the wheels, hence why reattaching the wheels sometimes fixes veering. It's kind of dumb but so is the fact that tribars only have collision on one arm and that a good chunk of the stock and DSL components are literally useless.
How you make Alarm Clock Pizza is:
Step 1: You buy an alarm clock from the store, and then you have to break it and put it in the sauce.
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Step 7: Make it flat and cut into 60 slices 1 for each minute in 1 our.
Step 8: Put in the oven set the timer to 30048813.2884 seconds and put the temperature on 'Volcano' setting.
Step 9: If you think it is take to long, then get yor alarm clock and set it to now so that it will ring and you can take it out.
Step 10: Take it out uv the uvin wen it is redy and go to bed. In the morning eat pizza and also eat yor hands bi mistake.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2015, 08:24:42 PM »
If it wasn't dumb, it wouldn't be Robot Arena.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2015, 08:35:20 PM »
For some reason 399.0 registers as HW sometimes and MW others. Not sure but I bet ra2 uses two decimals and rounds. If it shows up as HW, I would consider it a HW though and you need to cut that last .1kg

It looks like you could redesign the chassis by rearranging the components around the tank in a long rectangle with the npcs sticking out the back and attaching the flamethrowers externally. Plus it will make the edges much less vulnerable if a bot gets past your hammerz.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2015, 09:24:17 PM »
For some reason 399.0 registers as HW sometimes and MW others. Not sure but I bet ra2 uses two decimals and rounds. If it shows up as HW, I would consider it a HW though and you need to cut that last .1kg
I think what Click explained this a while back is that when you get a MW at 399.0 and registers as a HW, there is actually a hidden decimal which is actually 0.04 kg. So technically it weighs 399.04 kg. I've wondered why that is, but I'm guessing precise adjustment to the chassis or just flat out random chance.


Also, exostacking with the motors? Help me out with this one, but isn't that unrealistic in the DSL-S metagame?

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #58 on: March 13, 2015, 05:49:33 PM »
Another update:



Plastic 3 armor.  Might be a bit harder to skin this one, but hey whatever.

Also, exostacking with the motors? Help me out with this one, but isn't that unrealistic in the DSL-S metagame?

I've seen other people do it so I kinda assumed it was ok.

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Re: Thrackerzod is bad at DSL
« Reply #59 on: March 13, 2015, 06:15:00 PM »
It has always been OK to exostack motors like that in DSL-S as long as the AP's let you do that.

also you perfected and balanced that design, I can't think of a way to make it better.  :thumbup