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Robot Arena => Showcases => DSL TC Showcases => Topic started by: Spinner Bot on December 14, 2010, 03:07:29 PM
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hey everyone these are my first dsl bots right here so plz say if you like or ways to improve :) Hey guys i updated it no cheat parts and insides!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:
First off is my bot Nightmare. A flipper powered by 2 jx burst motors and 2 npc-t64's for drives. (armor: titanium 1)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23239nightmare.png)
Now here is my Flipper/full body spinner thingy. Again I used 2 jx burst motors to power his 2 flippers. His name is High flyer (armor: titanium 1)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34077high flyer.png)
Lastly I have i think one of my best bots, Whirlwind 3. A full body spinner with 4 30 kg hammers vertically on the sides and the antenna things are to keep him from being flipped if your wondering. his weapon is powered by an extremely powerful duel-perm 132 gearbox. (armor: plastic 1)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53472whirlwind.png)
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ugh they are in link form :realmad(
btw i can upload the insides later but im real busy now.
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Good to see you finally got the showcase up and running! What armour do they use?
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Was just about to PM him asking him to showcase a sledge hammer flying Guillotine as his first bot...
Good start but try not to use cheat parts as people will be hating on you.
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um, whirlwind is plastic due to weight limits and the others are titanium. Should i change any of them?
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at squirrelmonkey lol im gettin out of it now. But for my first bots i had no clue :mrgreen:
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Let's see some insides!
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sorry coming tommorow im really busy but keep an eye out :)
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^Use the Modify post button please^ (@Earlier double post)
Plastic what? 1,3,5,10?
Use img tags around links to post pictures.
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Yes, there's a lot of improvements here.
First of all, read this to know how to keep your showcase neat as such https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,5020.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,5020.0.html)
Also, erm, I worry about that botlab, that's the starcore UI.
Did you download your DSL from sages sig?
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Skins aren't too bad, actually. =) Though one thing we always like is what Armour the bot uses, 'cause we can't see that. And you probably want a shot of the outside, but also the components of the bot as well.
A quick tip, the display mesh (what the component looks like) and the collision mesh (what makes contact with stuff) are sometimes quite a bit different to each other, and the Vlad Flipper is quite a good example. It's got a "step" at the front instead of a wedge, so it makes quite bad wedges compared to Small Wedge components.
And cheat parts are frowned upon. More than ballast.
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At scorpion I actually did have regular dsl but I downloaded starcore on accident and now it's screwed so I gotta fix it back to dsl 2.1 some time. This is upwards everyone now I had no idea about others looking at these bots so I didn't know not to use cheat parts. If you want I could make different ones with regular components. And the insides will come maybe tommorow 99% sure. And whirlwind's plastic is 1 and the others are titanium 5. Any other advise/questions to post feel free
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Ah, that's alright, I was worried you'd have mixed up components and/or AI which would be bad.
And TBH we can't give you that much advice untill we see the insides really.
And I'd edit the first post (and ofcourse future posts) so they adhere to the advice in that link I posted before as it also helps us a lot in helping you.
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Well, i've seen worse.
Crop your pictures correctly, please. Go into the "how to create and maintain a quality showcase" thread and follow the hyperlink that is here to the screenshot posting tutorial.
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Your showcase needs tidying up... nuff said
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Yah I know this is a bad showcase but it's my first attempt and I threw it together in literally 9-10 minutes
I'll be uploading better pictures with insides and no cheat parts.(might be hard but I'll try) by the weekend or on the weekend. Pictures will be cropped too so keep an eye out
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You still need to post the insidez.
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Woot got insides, better pictures, and no cheat parts! :claping
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Not too bad, really. Though there are a few flaws.
First off, the only batteries people seem to use around here are the Ant Battery (highest total electricity) and the big 30kg one, I forget the name, only if we're using Beta Burst motors. Long batteries, especially, suck. Battlepacks aren't the best choice, but can be used in certain bots, probably LW and lower.
Also, the best wedges are made using Metal Hinge wedges instead of skirt hinges. You can use skirt hinges on LW's where weight is a concern, however. But you should either use a skirt component or Small Wedge component as a wedge, as they are shown to be the best.
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Thx for the pointers. I had no clue those batteries were bad I only picked them cause they fit well enough.
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True. And there's really no need to update your first post all the time. You can post new images in a new post, so they're easier to find for people giving pointers. And it's a lot easier to see what progress you've been making.
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True true however my first version was garbage so I just replaced it with the better bots. Any other questions/concerns?
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On the flipper, instead of using those big burst motors, use Beta's instead.
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I'll see into that
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Some more advice for ya':
Try to minimize chassis space, you'd be surprised how much weight you can save just by tightening up your chassis'
For wheels, hypnos, technos and vlads are probably the three best choices (although there are a few other great choices aswell, depending on what kind of bot you're building).
T-connectors and angle connectors should be avoided, they're too heavy and too weak really, you're better of using normal extenders when possible really.
Oh, and to expand a bit on what NFX advice about batterys, the reason why everybody uses ants is because, due to the weird way power consumption works in this game, one ant battery is enough to power any SPIN motor. Even the dual perms can get by on one ant!
(Although if you want to play it safe you should use 2 ants)
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That's true, Scorps. One ant per spin motor (This includes the Geared Beta). BSG's require 2 ants, Mag Snappers need 3, 5 for Small JX's, 7 for Large JX's, and Beta Bursts need the equivelant of 21 ants, or just ofer 3 of the 30kg batteries (saves around 30kg using large batteries for Beta Bursts). I always make a point of slightly overpowering my bots, so they have almost maximum power for the full three minutes. It's never a good thing when you run out of power close to the end, can't self-right, and get counted out with one second remaining on the clock.
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I personally try to get a number inbetween the minimun power and the max (2 ants per spin in other words), although that's a lot harder to do on LW for example.
And I think there should be a page on the wiki or something about power consumption (i.e how many ants are needed to power each burst) as I always get confused for some reason when it comes to the JX bursts in particular.
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I personally try to get a number inbetween the minimun power and the max (2 ants per spin in other words), although that's a lot harder to do on LW for example.
And I think there should be a page on the wiki or something about power consumption (i.e how many ants are needed to power each burst) as I always get confused for some reason when it comes to the JX bursts in particular.
123 says it's best to fully power them, and yes it is, but if you're short on weight you can give a burst 80% of it's elecmaxinoutrate, and it will work fine.
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I understand now thx guys
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Hey everyone. I have a new robot to show you guys named DESTROYER. He is another FBS with vlad pokers as weapons that work suprisingly well. Under are aslo some battleshots of him tearing apart increasingly easy starcore bots.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/96349DESTROYER.png)
Armor: plastic 1 due to weight limits
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1275Battle shot 1.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48260Battle shot 2.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50540battle shot 3.png)
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I don't know which world you're in, but that is definitely not starcore and you're not allowed to use DSL in stock.
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But those are stock bots, and you're fighting them with a DSL bot.
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Time paradox? :confused:
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sorry i got mixed up. no need to go haywire :rage
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Oh, no worries, we were just a bit confused.
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lol thats alright. I actually do have starcore but different bots than him. As i mentioned recently in a different post i had starcore and accidentally downloaded some garbage so now I have these bots until i have some time to download a new version. Just call these bots garbage bots
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You don't mix DSL and Stock. ;)
Few things you can do here:
Faster Drive, this probably needs NPC's and Hypnos.
Less ants, this technically only needs 3 ants, but I would probably use 4, or 5 at a stretch.
Conserve weight by using less shell panels, you only need the ones holding the weapons on, really.
UPGRADE THE ARMOUR. Plastic 1 is going to offer very little protection against anything.
Could probably have a lighter anti-immobiliser as well.
Finally, shrink the chassis, it could be a lot lower. Drag the slider all the way down, I think that might work.
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lol thats alright. I actually do have starcore but different bots than him. As i mentioned recently in a different post i had starcore and accidentally downloaded some garbage so now I have these bots until i have some time to download a new version. Just call these bots garbage bots
Ah, OK. Would you like us to help you download the real Starcore, DSL and things?
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wow obviously i have a lot to learn right here. But thanks I will upgrade them when i come back from vacation in a week. Until then just admire my garbage :)
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yes please i am very annoyed at this new version i downloaded.
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That's good. OK then, first things first. In order to do so, you'll need to reinstall your RA2 to how it was when you started out.
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Head against wall
Face in palm
Fingers in eye
Don't mix stock with DSL!!
Stock bots, even the well built ones in the starcore packs (I presume that's an old starcore pack though) are gonna get ripped to shreds because they have a lot less strength.
In DSL, the parts and the armour is alot stronger, so, just don't do it as it's pointless really.
Now, ignoring that, on to the actual bot.
Rember, ONE ANT CAN FULLY POWER ONE SPIN MOTOR.
You only realy need 3 ants in there, not the 10+ you've actually got there.
You could get away with mag drive for that bot, but put better wheels on it.
Hypnos are the best wheels of that size (rather small).
Vlad spikes may seem good, but they have normals (meaning that they only deal damage with certain sides) this means you're better off not using them.
The top self righter doesn't need to be so heavy, a poly sheet would be sufficient for that.
Try and put some protection on the bottom of the bot, if you click on the middle Atatchment point of a titanium half sheet you can stick it on the bottom of your bot it will protect it nicely (as it becomes invincible).
Also, please could you post the weight of the bot aswell.
Edit: Jesus, 11 replies while I was typing ma wall of text :eek:
You'll have got my complaint about DSL and stock mixed by now, and some of my points have already been said by NFX now, but still, I can't be bothered to change that post :P
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Wait, that means ill lose all my bots?
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Wait, that means ill lose all my bots?
In this mixed stock/DSL version of the game, yes, unfortunately. However, it's a sacrifice you'll need to make.
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alright. So i do have a stock version of the game and this crazy mixed up version. so could i keep my other stock version still?
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Theoratically, yes. Make two copies of the directory, though. You'll need that for the Starcore and DSL.
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and how exactly would i come around to doing that? my dad downloaded all this stuff for me lol so i gots no idea.
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Good thing you've got me to show you, then :D
But anyway, enough gloating from me. Once you've deleted the messed up version, here's how to copy the directory-
1) Click on "My Computer"
2) Then click on the button for the C Drive.
3) Program Files
4) Infogrames
5) Once in the Infogrames file, select "Robot Arena 2", but don't go into it.
6) Copy
7) Paste
8) Once the copied file appears, rename it "Robot Arena 2 Starcore". This will be your Starcore directory.
9) Copy the file again, but rename this version "Robot Arena 2 DSL". This will be your DSL directory.
Once you've done this, reply, tell me if you did it correctly, and then I'll continue.
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Lol thanks ill begin now
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So I clicked on ra2 copy and pasted it and now it says ra2 copy. Am I good so far?
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Yep, you're good so far. You did delete the messed up version first though, right?
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IF YOU HAVEN'T, DON'T YET
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No.... Do I have to restart?
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Oh alright, what's next?
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No.... Do I have to restart?
I think so. Completely reinstall the game before you continue. Once you've done that, continue from Point 1.
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No. Copy your 'Teams' folder and place it somewhere secure before you delete. Then feel free.
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Ugh I am so confused. Sorry but how would I do that? I'm garbage at stuff like this
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Before you delete your messed up game, copy the folder named 'Teams' and paste it somewhere secure. Then follow GF93's instructions.
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Before you delete your messed up game, copy the folder named 'Teams' and paste it somewhere secure. Then follow GF93's instructions.
As well as robot designs if you have some in.
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What would be the most "secure" place
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Alright so I copy and pasted my teams, now I delete my messed up game? ( the original and copy?)
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Yes.
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Alright. I did that, so now what do I do?
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Now that you've reinstalled the game, you continue my instructions from point one. Once you've done that, let us know.
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Wait but both my dsl versios are gone. So do I copy my stock ra2?
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Yes, you copy the Stock twice. Rename the original one "Robot Arena 2 Clean". This will allow it to be copied again for any other mods you might want, such as NAR AI or something.
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Oh I get it now thanks
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That's OK.
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Got it, what's next?
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Now, we begin the downloads of DSL and Starcore. You do have WinRAR, right?
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Yup
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Good. For this purpose, I recommend creating a new file on your desktop as a temporary storage point, to download your files to.
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New folder on desktop done.
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Excellent. Now then, create two seperate files (DSL and Starcore Files) in the Spaceholder for the downloaded stuff to go into.
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Wait so I opened up my file and it says it's empty, what do I do from there?
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Thx for the help goldenfox I appreciate it. But right now I gtg get ready to go vacation so if you could pm me the rest of the instructions i would appreciate it. :) I'll pm you when I get back in a week if it worked. Thanks again
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Those files you created in the spaceholder file? Yes, those should be empty.
EDIT: That's OK. I'll have the rest of the instructions ready here for when you come back.
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Ok thanks. Cya in a week
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Alright, see you then. Enjoy your trip!
Now, time to get to work.