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Robot Arena => Showcases => DSL TC Showcases => Topic started by: Shinkioh on March 30, 2013, 06:15:43 PM

Title: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Shinkioh on March 30, 2013, 06:15:43 PM
This is my HW bot, Dirge. The only bot I build to not have a cheatbot part. Dead Zone uses one so I didn't think it was right for me to put him here. Oh and sorry, no snazzy paintjob. I have zero clue how to make decals. The inspiration is Mortis and the RW flippers like Gravity. The pickaxe weapon was added as an afterthought. I was gonna use the razor tip but they were too fragile. But the pickaxe also serve on discovered purpose, preventing the flipper from getting stuck through the floor from the Havok physics. I can show a video of its previous rendition. It never had exposed wheels at the back before but I put the wheels back so it won't get stuck on its back or side. Oh and it has 5mm Steel armor. But yeah. Enjoy my pieces of ****s that won't survive in those online tourneys or something. :D

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/65998Dirge.png) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/65416DirgeInsides.png)
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Sylandro on March 30, 2013, 06:22:40 PM
Not that bad IMO, just replace the brown battery with Ants, why? Ants are better and lighter, believe it or not.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on March 30, 2013, 06:26:37 PM
badnik is going to look at that first bot and say "HAY YOU SHOULD DO IRL". im calling it right now.

but yes, you want to make it better? get rid of the 4WD. 2wd npc fast with techno wheels serves fine as a drivetrain.
get rid of the fragile flippermaker holding the strong skirt
if you dont know the general rule is 1 ant per spin motor despite what the descriptions say. burst motors DO have to be fully powered however.
try to get some more weapons on the hammer, try razors or light doublesided teeth.
get some wedges on there, nono not a chassis wedge. i am talking like a metal hinge (alternatively a skirt hinge using the center attachment point can be used if you are low on weight) with a skirt or halfsheet+small wedge

thats the stuff i can come up with off the top of my head. also, hi!
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on March 30, 2013, 06:33:33 PM
of course now that awesumsauce has called it im not gonna do it

oh wait i feel obliged to

HAY YOU SHOULD - no

Either way you should definitely shrink the chassis some and get at least four ant batteries in there to power the drive. The black batteries can stay for the burst motor power. Also, exchange the green control board for a blue one, it's lighter.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Shinkioh on March 30, 2013, 08:54:39 PM
Oh, really? Ant batteries can power the drive motors even the best motors, the NPCs? Cool.

Okay, question. So, what cheatbots parts are normally allowed? Cause I use a DDT Burst Motor in some of my lifter bots and the Slow Lifter Snapper Motor as well.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on March 30, 2013, 09:29:29 PM
Quote from: Shinkioh on March 30, 2013, 08:54:39 PM
Okay, question. So, what cheatbots parts are normally allowed? Cause I use a DDT Burst Motor in some of my lifter bots and the Slow Lifter Snapper Motor as well.
no.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: 090901 on March 30, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
Quote from: Shinkioh on March 30, 2013, 08:54:39 PM
Okay, question. So, what cheatbots parts are normally allowed? Cause I use a DDT Burst Motor in some of my lifter bots and the Slow Lifter Snapper Motor as well.
Most people could care less if you use them as long as they are not for tournaments or contests.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Probably Rob on March 30, 2013, 09:52:35 PM
*couldn't  :gawe:
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on March 31, 2013, 03:50:50 AM
Quote from: Shinkioh on March 30, 2013, 08:54:39 PM
Okay, question. So, what cheatbots parts are normally allowed? Cause I use a DDT Burst Motor in some of my lifter bots and the Slow Lifter Snapper Motor as well.
Judge Burst and Moe Motors are generally accepted in IRL building
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Avalanche on March 31, 2013, 07:44:19 AM
2 bursts are normally ok in IRL: Judge burst and Lifter motor.Make sure you put 30kg of stuff on judge burst unless you WANT to havok to infinity.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on March 31, 2013, 11:35:29 AM
I WASNT THE ONE TO SAY IT THIS TIME AWESUMSAUCE TAKE THAT

yeah if you want to build IRL, then yeah most cheatbot parts are acceptable. If you want to build like an efficiencyfag and spam 400kg of weaponry on every bot then Cheatbot2 is completely taboo.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 31, 2013, 11:57:00 AM
You need a more impressive weapon. and moar armor.

Quote from: Badnik96 on March 31, 2013, 11:35:29 AM
I WASNT THE ONE TO SAY IT THIS TIME AWESUMSAUCE TAKE THAT

yeah if you want to build IRL, then yeah most cheatbot parts are acceptable. If you want to build like an efficiencyfag and spam 400kg of weaponry on every bot then Cheatbot2 is completely taboo.

good job you just did exactly as as predicted.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Sylandro on March 31, 2013, 06:40:57 PM
Guys, i think he's now a dead account, but just cross our fingers and pray that he listens to us.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Shinkioh on March 31, 2013, 11:57:32 PM
Oh no, I'm just not a very active person. I got several things in my head going on I might not pop up a lot but eh who knows.

Also, skirt hinges? They never work out for me. Mostly cause I didn't know how to make 'em work. I always bounce on top of the other bot instead of being under them. But I guess I can change the shape of the chassis. It dooooes look like a comfy chair with wheels.

Armor huh? Hm. What's the usual standard for each weight classes?

Oh and a spinning disc on treads. Inspired from Cyclone Raptor. TERMINAL DESTRUCTION. Okay it's a mouthful. Its name is Terminus but I think that name has been used countless times by now. So, I'll just go with that. Teeth is fragile but it does wreck sh** aaaand caused a Havok explosion so bad that it sometimes get stuck through the floor or get it and its opponent flung into the air and stuck through the roof.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56196TerminalDestruction.png) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/45297TerminalDestructionInsides.png)

And here's a vid of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFkRNR9Gww#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFkRNR9Gww#ws) lol Havok
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Conraaa on April 01, 2013, 04:10:47 AM
I can't have been the only one who thought the chassis was a big smartzone. Regardless I like it, the only hole I can see is the fact it uses locking motors, which is something you can't really change if you want a stable tracked robot.

In general, the worthwile armours are Tite5, Tite3, Steel1, and maybe Steel10 if you really need to kill weight.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on April 01, 2013, 06:38:25 AM
I really like it, it's pretty good by IRL standards.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: martymidget on April 01, 2013, 06:52:10 AM
Quote from: Conraaa on April 01, 2013, 04:10:47 AM
I can't have been the only one who thought the chassis was a big smartzone. Regardless I like it, the only hole I can see is the fact it uses locking motors, which is something you can't really change if you want a stable tracked robot.

In general, the worthwile armours are Tite5, Tite3, Steel1, and maybe Steel10 if you really need to kill weight.

What happened to p3 and p5 being good? :C
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Conraaa on April 01, 2013, 06:57:08 AM
Oh yeah those 2 aswell
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on April 01, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
use razors, matilda teeth have normals (AKA they only cause damage when hit on their tip) and generally dont cause as much wreckage as 9000 razors do.

Quote from: Badnik96 on April 01, 2013, 06:38:25 AM
I really like it, it's pretty good by IRL standards.
pls go
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Kossokei on April 01, 2013, 02:30:37 PM
Quote from: Badnik96 on April 01, 2013, 06:38:25 AM
I really like it, it's pretty good by IRL standards.
Drugs. You're doing them. Don't lie.

It's horrible by DSL standard... standards, it's bad at best by IRL standards.

The tank treads look out of place, the disk needs extender support or else it's not IRL, you only need an ant per spin motor and use the blue control board instead of the green one.

Otherwise, I like what you did with the dsl bars and the tank treads.

Disclaimer: This IRL advice I'm giving you, not DSL standard. Two different things.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Naryar on April 02, 2013, 06:40:25 AM
Conraa you're doing it wrong on armors.

Best armors are Steel 5, all titanium except Ti3, and plastic 3.

The rest is rather good to decent, with the exception of aluminium which is generally terrible.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Shinkioh on April 02, 2013, 06:29:10 PM
Quote from: Kossokei on April 01, 2013, 02:30:37 PM

The tank treads look out of place, the disk needs extender support or else it's not IRL, you only need an ant per spin motor and use the blue control board instead of the green one.
So does it have to be like Ripblade II or do I just have the motor stick out?
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Kossokei on April 03, 2013, 01:28:45 PM
Quote from: Shinkioh on April 02, 2013, 06:29:10 PM
Quote from: Kossokei on April 01, 2013, 02:30:37 PM

The tank treads look out of place, the disk needs extender support or else it's not IRL, you only need an ant per spin motor and use the blue control board instead of the green one.
So does it have to be like Ripblade II or do I just have the motor stick out?
I think I know what Ripblade II is but I'm not sure if it has extender support or not.... But, here are some examples of bots who do have motor support, because I'm not really sure how to explain it. Feel free to draw inspiration and do whatever works best for you.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Shinkioh on July 30, 2015, 07:37:36 AM
Bluuuh. Back from hiatus. Not sure if I should necropost but I might as well since this is my thread and I'll see if I did something wrong here. But yeah I've been spending time in DSL3 Beta. Not sure if any more AI robots has been made for it but I did got some that are usable.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73760AngryCrowPic.jpg)

I always loved Terrorhurtz and Killerhurtz. Added the prongs at the front to block against spinners as I axe them from above. In the words of Hak Foo. ANGRY CROW TAKES FLIGHT.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/61911RumblePic.jpg)

Yeah kind of rip off the chassis design from Original Sin just to deal with weight issues. At least it's more cooler looking. :P

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43507Hellblau2.jpg)

Another rip off of another RoboGames bot, Federal MIT. Couldn't make it realistic unfortunately. It barely has any battery power.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56966Fangris.jpg)

Not a very good bot but a robot that's fun to look at.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Merrick on July 30, 2015, 08:15:28 AM
Liking the look of the second one. Learn to skin and these could be pretty decent.

3rd one needs some weapon supports too.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: helloface on July 30, 2015, 03:41:10 PM
I like the medieval looking shape of the axe, but it would probably look better and more sinister with a darker material.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Shinkioh on July 30, 2015, 04:35:36 PM
That was the only Terrorhurtz looking axe I can find unless someone can show how I can make it with the DSL 3 Beta parts. lol

Meanwhile I have this one driving issue with Rumble. It always steer to the right when I try to make it drive straight. Everything was set up as it should be. It still has that issue.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Bobyasianboy on July 31, 2015, 09:18:09 AM
Rotating the wheels before putting them on usually helps with veering issues.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Shinkioh on July 31, 2015, 07:51:41 PM
I think I figure out what may be the problem. Because Rumble's wedge is so low to the ground, it keeps hitting against it making it move awkwardly. Sometimes it jumps a bit when driving. lol Just like some robots hitting the tiles in real life.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/76169HellblauExtender.jpg)

Hellblau now with extenders. Manage to fit some good batteries to fit with in the weight limit for middleweights.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60309Tremor.jpg)
Practically I took Rumble's chassis design and cut it in half but doesn't form the H-shape like the Original Sin design. Smaller wedge. Wedging tactics can only get me so far but they're fun to drive.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Merrick on August 03, 2015, 05:04:41 AM
That VS looks a lot better with the supports.

Is the new rammer now a MW compared to the old one, which I assume was a HW?
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Shinkioh on August 07, 2015, 10:04:12 PM
Nah. Rumble's still around. He just never won at all because he can't deal damage for sh**. It makes good fodder bot though.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/6480HellblauModified.jpg)
MW Hellblau - Removed the spikes on the wheels because they add to the bot's already wide frame and often end up knocking it on its back when pushed against the wall.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14924Tremor.jpg)
MW Tremor -  Now it has three wedgespikes instead of one.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15882Rumble.png)
HW Rumble - Now has the wedgespikes that wasn't present on the previous picture.

A LW robot I never show here that does pretty well is Thrasher. He's too boring of a design and a pretty bad at one. So that's why I don't show him. It's literally a T-shaped bot with a spinning bar. Currently rethinking of how I should approach the design at this point.

EDIT:

New MW robot Prowler.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/63673Prowler.jpg)

Any input on what I can do to add to realism of the design or something?
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Shinkioh on August 15, 2015, 03:31:00 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/87145Ripple2.jpg)
My LW Spinner, Ripple. Why I design it like this? I was going for a Chunk design buuuuut weight constraints. So I turned it into an angled horizontal spinner like Trimangle. Probably the worst idea yet.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Reier on August 15, 2015, 03:37:40 PM
DSL bars don't really do any damage, at least add a weapon on the ends
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: helloface on August 15, 2015, 03:38:30 PM
Kinda cool despite the useless weapon. Keep experimenting with that design I think you're off to a good start.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: ecolusian on August 16, 2015, 08:26:35 AM
your bots are very pretty to look at but i dont think their that combat worthy, good on your for noticing that though man i think youll be a great irl builder some day.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Naryar on August 16, 2015, 08:45:03 AM
Quote from: ecolusian on August 16, 2015, 08:26:35 AM
your bots are very pretty to look at but i dont think their that combat worthy, good on your for noticing that though man i think youll be a great irl builder some day.

What.
Title: Re: Shinkioh's Pieces of Junk DSL Showcase
Post by: Shinkioh on August 19, 2015, 12:02:03 AM
After exploring further with attaching drive motors outside the chassis. This is what I end up making.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15579Atomic.png)

I... have no clue what to do with this. But it's a start. I'll probably scrap the concept for something. It's supposed to have a flipper but eh. I haven't seen an effective design yet in DSL 3 Beta at the moment. Also big wheels are funny.
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