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Shield's dumpster
« on: April 28, 2013, 02:46:29 AM »
Massimo recommended I do this so... Why not?

1. Equalizer


Innards:


Quite unhappy with this. The teeth fall off almost as soon as it touches another bot, it's nowhere close to the weight limit and for some reason when I try to drive it it only goes in circles. The disc is also too low to the ground so it keeps messing with the driving.

2.Equalizer (modified for BB6)


Innards:


The teeth don't fall off as easily as they did. It only has one disc because the previous version wasn't IRL enough, built it closer to the weight limit, for some reason it still doesn't stop spinning in circles instead of driving forwards. And also, the disc is still affecting the drive. Also considering making one with DSL bars instead of discs.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2013, 02:50:05 AM »
Add a multi-extender onto the center of the disc (the bottom side) so it can drive straight (relatively, single spinners are like that). Batteries are overkill (6 ant batts maximum), and you can add some motor protection with the weight you have freed.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 02:52:17 AM »
Add a multi-extender onto the center of the disc (the bottom side) so it can drive straight (relatively, single spinners are like that). Batteries are overkill (6 ant batts maximum), and you can add some motor protection with the weight you have freed.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2013, 07:01:22 AM »
The first one, the upper disc cuts trough the motor. Realism in any way shape or form is dead.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 07:17:53 AM »
It's OK for a newbie, honestly I have seen far worse as first bots.

also you generally only need 1 or 2 ants per spin motor.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 09:19:12 AM »
The first one, the upper disc cuts trough the motor. Realism in any way shape or form is dead.

That was a prototype, eh, a little experiment if you will. So, I sent in a second version which was more IRl, I think I was too late though.

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It's OK for a newbie, honestly I have seen far worse as first bots.

also you generally only need 1 or 2 ants per spin motor.

Thanks for the advice!
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 09:24:12 AM »
The second one needs some kind of extender support, otherwise it's not IRL.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2013, 10:01:10 AM »
How do I make an extender support?
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2013, 10:16:57 AM »
Made a multibot. I think I put too many batteries into them. And also, didn't give them skins because...

I don't know how (n00b level has reached maximum capacity).

1.Cricket




The "Shield" half of the multibot team, Cricket's job is to get under opponents and pin them against the wall while it's partner, Mantis, chews into the opposition. It is decent in holding it's own against opponents, I think I made it a bit too fast though. It is basically doomed if it is flipped upside down unless another bot flips it back up. Armor is Titanium 1mm.

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The "Sword" half of the team, Mantis's job is to tear away at the opponent while Cricket holds it off. I put Hypno teeth on it so that it doesn't intersect with the chassis. The large N-12 wheels make it able to drive upside down so flippers won't be a problem as long as it's in a contained arena (Combat Arena, Battlebox etc.). Just like Cricket, armor is Titanium 1mm.

I haven't been able to see how they both do since I can't AI at all. (Every time I try, my game crashes unless I erase the new bindings and stuff)
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2013, 10:24:43 AM »
i think you should make cricket invertible (min. chassis height) and add more armour. after all it's pretty much meant to take the hits. and mantis could do with some more aesthetics. both of them look alright though
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2013, 10:25:17 AM »
How do I make an extender support?

Use extenders to create a cage similar to what Last Rites has.

tip: multi extenders are your friend

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2013, 10:30:54 AM »
i think you should make cricket invertible (min. chassis height) and add more armour. after all it's pretty much meant to take the hits. and mantis could do with some more aesthetics. both of them look alright though

It's already reached minimum Chassis height, will get to removing one or two ants and giving it thicker armor. And about Mantis, how can I improve?
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2013, 10:33:37 AM »
It's already reached minimum Chassis height...
did you drag the height slider to the top, then click the very bottom?
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2013, 10:37:17 AM »
Make Cricket less tall, use less batteries (5 ants) and more weapons.

also the problem with multibots is that your sword will strike your shield more than the other bot :P

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2013, 11:08:08 AM »
Made Cricket lower and upped his armor (3 mm Titanium or 5 mm plastic, forgot), also replaced the motors to fix the "too fast" problem. But he has a new issue. Bots just slide right over him instead of getting pushed around. Maybe I'll angle the razors a little differently...



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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2013, 11:44:05 AM »
add an additional weapon rack on top of it

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2013, 12:01:00 PM »
Cricket needs 1 more ant battery, and Mantis needs a weapon cage, like Last Rites ( the bot below ) But of course, it needs a lighter armor type.
Also, Mantis and Cricket needs a Blue Control Board, it's lighter.
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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2013, 12:15:52 PM »
Cricket needs 1 more ant battery, and Mantis needs a weapon cage, like Last Rites ( the bot below ) But of course, it needs a lighter armor type.
Also, Mantis and Cricket needs a Blue Control Board, it's lighter.
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Nein. Cricket needs like, 2 less batteries. I don't think anyone really abides to the "everything fully powered" rule.

The cage part is correct, but doesn't have to be that complex.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2013, 12:30:59 PM »
god kossokei stop posting advice in showcases, seriously.

Sylandro is ENTIRELY RIGHT on his advice for once and you tell him it's wrong ? Just stop.

Cricket needs 4 ants minimum, 6 is ideal but you don't always have the weight.

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Re: S.H.I.E.L.D's failcase
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2013, 12:40:53 PM »
you know what I posted based on the first rendition of Cricket, not seeing the other one. My mistake.