Author Topic: Schrikvis' showcase of dsligned failures (Read 19483 times)

Schrikvis · « **on:** November 17, 2012, 01:46:15 PM »

Welcome to my showcase thread. It's not very good. I'm sorry.
As of 2017 I've edited most posts here to be less obnoxious for potential future internet archaeologists.

Schrikvis · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2012, 01:49:23 PM »

This one's called Gradian which is a pun because a Gradian is a small Radian. It's a lightweight hypnodisc knockoff much like 360. Here's the pics;

CameraFan · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:05:58 PM »

bot 1 looks too big to be effective and needs moar snow plows. Also does a servo hammer do anything? Never tried
bot 2 don't think it needs the support wheels, also needs moar weapons and less razors that do nothing
and show your insides and weight on all bots please
you nearly got the idea of a showcase right, we dont say it sucks and you do improve it
also, welcome to gtm, try not to take our advice as criticism, lurk in other showcases and have fun

ty4er · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:18:25 PM »

the first bot only has one ant? that's underpowering it by a lot. i think you'd need between 5 and 8 ants (depending on what motors you're using and how many there are) and you could choose better weapons. there are lots of tips everywhere (beetlebros and the wiki are the main ones) which you really should read.

the second bot i like a lot though. reminds me of nfx's 360 replica but a little smaller i think. you could replace the razor for some armour or get rid of it all together and get more weapons, those hypno teeth have a tiny collision mesh (f12)

i guess i could say more but i'm a little tired today :P as conraaa said, look around different showcases and dont take our advice too harshly

Mr. AS · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:19:07 PM »

wheels on axle mounts are a waste of weight

Schrikvis · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:26:27 PM »

camfan: Bot2 needs the support wheels because the flipper segments get damaged over timefor some reason. The servo motor is used for rotating the hammer horizontally, I mentioned a snapper which is used for hammering the hammer. I'm sorry for being so unclear.
The insides of bot 2;

awsum: the wheels on axel mounts are there to prevent the flipper segments from getting damaged over time.

legendarylegendamonglegends: the insides of bot 1; (it's missing approx. 1 ant)

Naryar · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:27:03 PM »

My justice sensors are detecting either a troll, or a far too sarcastic newbie... not sure if one or the other.

Mr. AS · « **Reply #7 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:31:10 PM »

Quote from: Schrikvis on November 17, 2012, 02:26:27 PM

@awsum the wheels on axel mounts are there to prevent the flipper segments
from getting damaged over time. (is this normal?)

no you see, ra2 functions nothing like real life. they will probably get torn off by the other bots weapons before they get damaged a significant amount by the floor

edit- just get rid of the axle+wheel and replace it with stronger stabilizers if they fall off too fast for whatever reason

ty4er · « **Reply #8 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:33:32 PM »

i say keep the axle mounts because they make the bot look cool, its an irl design pretty much.

and what is with my name ahahaha
plus i just realised i said conraaa instead of camerafan. oops

CameraFan · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:33:58 PM »

try not to expose 400hp motors like mags. they'll get torn off easily by popups.
piglets have 8000hp and are 10kg lighter, use one of them and get moar weapons.
and woo i'm conraaa now

Schrikvis · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:35:41 PM »

Quote from: CameraFan on November 17, 2012, 02:33:58 PM

try not to expose 400hp motors like mags. they'll get torn off easily by popups.
piglets have 8000hp and are 10kg lighter, use one of them and get moar weapons.
and woo i'm conraaa now

Do piglets spin faster or slower than mags?
Also do they need more batteries?

ty4er · « **Reply #11 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:37:42 PM »

they spin slower but on your bot it wont matter much because there isn't much weight on there. and all spin motors use 1 ant battery so no

Tweedy · « **Reply #12 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:37:58 PM »

Piglets spin slower than mags, and all spin motors need 1 ant battery to power them for an entire match.
On Gradian you can make the chassis wider and upgrade the drive to mags if you have the weight, also that razor is seriously inhibiting the potential of your bot, if you remove it and raise the mags 1 notch you can make it invertible.
edit, you can also swap the snapper for a bsg which has the same power but is lighter.

CameraFan · « **Reply #13 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:40:54 PM »

kinda on topic but i just noticed your title
DSLigned failures
don't know if on purpose or typo but its cool anyhow
edit: lolol tipic

Tweedy · « **Reply #14 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:41:46 PM »

Quote from: Sylandro on November 17, 2012, 02:40:13 PM

You're doing good, and DON'T USE PIGLETS FOR DRIVE. EVER.

He's not using piglets for drive.

CameraFan · « **Reply #15 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:43:49 PM »

plazmic beat me to it :o

Well for a beginner you're not doing too bad (at least not as bad as I was), I wanna see more of your stuff ~~to rant about~~ to help.

Schrikvis · « **Reply #16 on:** November 17, 2012, 03:03:50 PM »

Thanks for the feedback!
I've changed the spinmotor to a piglet and upgraded the armor. Also I've removed the razor (and thus it's only means of selfrightment). I'll see if this works better and whether or not I should undo the armor change, rollback the razor and add some more razors to the sides of it/a sheet under it. Edit: it's invertible now! And it doesn't do anything for me, a human, since I'm not used to upside-down driving. Could be interesting should it once be AI'd for a tournament, though. The extra armor is not noticable, the piglet, however is. It feels much more sturdy especially against rammers, hammers and low spinners.

I've added a plate on top of it for more protection, and a spike strip because it looks kind of decent. I'm also experimenting with different types of spinners. So, without further ado, here's Gradian (again)

Edit: reverted back to old design, although I might use the bar for another design. Also, I found out that the razor on top of Gradian apparently introduces a new type of gameplay; catching other robots for damage. I've been playing a lot of matches with Gradian and a lightweight flipper against any HW, trying to catch the HW onto my spike/disc.
Very fun to do.

CameraFan · « **Reply #17 on:** November 17, 2012, 03:04:41 PM »

If you make it invertible you don't need any sort of srimech.

HurricaneAndrew · « **Reply #18 on:** November 17, 2012, 06:52:06 PM »

Quote from: plazmic inferno on November 17, 2012, 02:41:46 PM

Quote from: Sylandro on November 17, 2012, 02:40:13 PM
You're doing good, and DON'T USE PIGLETS FOR DRIVE. EVER.
He's not using piglets for drive.

I think the retard knows and was just being stupid and reiterating what we had told him when he joined for some reason.

Schrikvis · « **Reply #19 on:** November 19, 2012, 09:08:08 AM »

Here's two more 'bots, both made for fun as they're not very effective. I've replaced the front wheels on Gradian with small drums, saving me two kgs. Traction's fine though, think they might even offer more grip than ant wheels.
Drum, 5mm tit;

Spearhead, 1mm tit; (lightweight warhead replica, needs a bigger chassis to reduce possible clipping, not sure if it actually clips, but it probably does).

Also it needs a better srimech, its current one only works half the time.