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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2013, 09:50:04 PM »
I don't feel like doing it mathematically to see but you might be able to get it down to a BW if you dropped the armor and changed the red batteries out for ants, which means it won't be thrashed around as much by the other bots, because I'm pretty sure any decent LW could easily outweapon that...

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2013, 10:00:18 PM »
Good evening to Naryar, Badnik96, and MassimoV. But not to S.H.I.E.L.D and helloface :( . :yaya)
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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2013, 10:24:02 PM »
Good evening again.

I tried reducing Bonesaw's armor to Plastic 1, replacing the vlads with shinies, and replacing the two battlepacks with four ants...

It weighed 182.0kg. Kossokei was wrong.

Bonesaw looks alright, but it looks underpowered. Is there any way to get four ants in instead?

Two battlepacks provide 56 amps while four ants only provide 40. Each motor gets 14 amps instead of 10.

Good evening to Naryar, Badnik96, and MassimoV. But not to S.H.I.E.L.D and helloface :( . :yaya)
(Just kidding, S.H.I.E.L.D.)

I never said you couldn't have a good evening. Don't feel sad, I just want to be your friend. You look like you need a hug. I will give you one, any day of the week, hehehe. I will make it a tight hug so you will feel a special, once-in-a-lifetime feeling...
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Also,

Technically a sawbot, but I say "SCREW THAT, Rotozoa thing is a Horizontal Spinner!"

Every component can be seen from this angle, and that is a long Perm 80. There is nothing on the other AP of said Perm. Armor is Plastic 10 and this thing spins counterclockwise.

259 disc intersects the motor :vista:

Rotozoa is just a temporary name.

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2013, 10:26:43 PM »
Because of the disc intersecting the motor it is unrealistic. Also use multi extenders over baseplate anchors, this only needs 3 ants minimum and 4 optimally. Using the larger control board also saves weight.

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2013, 10:34:43 PM »
Turn the motor 180 degrees, replace the 259 disc with a 100 cm disc and put razors on flails. You only need 3-4 batteries at most, use multi-extenders, their lighter, and the blue control board is lighter.
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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2013, 10:43:48 PM »
Ok, for the Popup/Juggler, get rid of the srimech and change the halfsheet to a heavy plow. I would also suggest trying out razors on the juggler discs instead of beater bars.
For Bonesaw, don't even bother using slimbody drive motors. Instead, use either mags (with shines) or astros (with hypnos) attached outside the chassis with multi extenders. Also, due to a glitch in RA2's coding all Spin (not burst motors) draw only 10 amps. 4 ants give out much more total power than 2 reds. With the weight saved from making the chassis plus making the chassis smaller. You should be able to get a wedge. (Maybe drop the armour if you need some extra weight)
For the HS you can easily shrink up that chassis. Again use multis to attach the weapon and drive motors. Right now you only need 3 ants minimum. 

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2013, 11:42:10 PM »
It weighed 182.0kg. Kossokei was wrong.
oof.

oh well. it was close

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #67 on: July 17, 2013, 12:02:48 AM »
Good evening, fellow superiors.

Hey, 090901, I updated the Flucifer's srimech.



It acutally works!

Also, Battlepacks provide 28 amps per battery while ants provide a measly 10. 28*2=56 and 10*4 is 40. 56>40. Two battlepacks provide more amps than four ants, an argument solved by simple math.

No disrespect, 090901, but numbers don't lie. This is why I prefer Battlepacks over ants. And yes, I know that all spin motors only draw 10 amps despite what the description says.

But thanks for the advice on the other bots (this applies to anyone who has given me advice on building). I really appreciate you guys taking time out of your day to help me improve my building skills.

So, what do you think about Flucifer's new srimech?
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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2013, 12:34:19 AM »
Actually the numbers do lie. Every spin motor only needs a single ant to power it due to a glitch in RA2' s code.

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2013, 12:38:24 AM »
lol you still don't know everything about batteries.

in that case ant batteries are preferable to 1 battlepack because they have the same electotal for less than half the weight.

electotal being the total life of your battery.

about that juggler srimech... change it to a bsg, and make efficient use of weight so make it a popup hybrid at least. a srimech on a juggler is wasting weight.

Actually the numbers do lie. Every spin motor only needs a single ant to power it due to a glitch in RA2' s code.

did you read his post ?

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2013, 01:10:54 AM »
Good evening and bleh, I am tired.

Here is the latest version of Flucifer's Wedge:

Armor is Plastic 10.

BSG srimech because it saves weight over mag srimech. Some of the bars have been replaced with razors. Sneezes don't actually travel at 100mph.

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #71 on: July 17, 2013, 08:57:46 AM »
Swap the position of the bsgs and the mags so the weapons dont intersect. Then lower the armour and add more weapons
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is this bot don't lost all razors in a fight before do a damage thought

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2013, 12:11:17 PM »
lol i thought it was a MW

but don't use a srimech when you already have a popup mechanism, it's such a waste of weight

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2013, 10:34:29 PM »
Good evening.

Flucifer's Wedge can't right without the big blaring srimech behind the plow because the weapons on the internal BSGs are razors, which are too short to make a proper srimech. Also, Flucifer is longer than he is wide, so it makes sense (at least to me) that he rolls over onto his side as Hypnodisc did in Robot Wars. That is why Flucifer has a separate srimech.

Also, I am learning how to AI. Any and all tips would be appreciated.

Also also, an antweight SnS:

Armor is Plastic 3

The name is 123Sb (Antimony-123). Very effective in combat with heavy DS Teeth. Need I say more besides the advantages and disadvantages?

Advantages: Strong weaponry for an antweight, fairly fast.
Disadvantages: Anemic on battery power.

And no, MassimoV had nothing to do with 123Sb.
And yes, Antimony-123 (the isotope, not the bot) is stable. I looked it up.

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2013, 10:42:25 PM »
Use the blue control board. It's lighter. You might want to swap out the wheels for shinnies instead and use the weight on the much needed battery power.
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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #75 on: July 17, 2013, 10:46:06 PM »
Get a smaller chassis, use faster motors, get more weapons (razors if you can), and it needs two ant batteries. And I have no clue what you're talking about 123 Sb.

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #76 on: July 17, 2013, 11:16:37 PM »
Good evening, MassimoV.

You made a series of bots named after different isotopes, remember?

Also, to S.H.I.E.L.D, this isn't stock. In DSL, mini wheels are lighter than shinies. Just saying.

Edit: Also, UPDATE! on 123Sb

I know Steel 1 shouldn't exist, but armor is Steel 1 anyways.

Biggest improvement here should be obvious: two ants as opposed to one.

Now the disadvantage is the fact that is is somewhat wobbly. But that should only be a concern when up against a flipper.

123Sb is also invertible. For got to mention that :gawe:

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P.S. Helloface is referring to the previous version of 123Sb. He posted while I edited this post.

Amusing anecdote: I tried a setup with LX Astroflights and the DS Teeth on the axle. It was a "Havokular Bomb," meaning that it havoked so frequently that it became unusable. In "125Sb's case, it havoked so violently whenever it sat and spun that induced severe lag.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2013, 12:15:47 AM by rnifnuf »
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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #77 on: July 17, 2013, 11:56:36 PM »
Definately get a smaller chassis.
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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #78 on: July 18, 2013, 12:20:57 AM »
that extender work has been improved but can still be better.

also that's a big chassis for an ant

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Re: rnifnuf's DSL Cavalcade of Crap
« Reply #79 on: July 18, 2013, 01:36:12 AM »
Good evening, O Mighty Naryar. Please inform me on how close I am to appeasing thee.

I took the time to improve 123Sb even further:

Armor is totally not DSA Aluminum 3.

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