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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #380 on: May 10, 2019, 08:48:09 AM »
What about wedgelets? They'll help the WS stay stable...


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #381 on: May 10, 2019, 08:49:20 AM »
What about wedgelets? They'll help the WS stay stable...
you arent gonna be winning any wedge wars with a WS, they have no drivepower so just add supports and you'll be golden
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #382 on: May 10, 2019, 08:50:39 AM »
What about wedgelets? They'll help the WS stay stable...
you arent gonna be winning any wedge wars with a WS, they have no drivepower so just add supports and you'll be golden

That's what I meant- the wedgelets would be there to keep the WS stable, not to have it get under opponents...


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #383 on: May 10, 2019, 08:52:24 AM »
What about wedgelets? They'll help the WS stay stable...
you arent gonna be winning any wedge wars with a WS, they have no drivepower so just add supports and you'll be golden

That's what I meant- the wedgelets would be there to keep the WS stable, not to have it get under opponents...
Wedglets that aren't for wedging
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #384 on: May 10, 2019, 08:53:13 AM »
What about wedgelets? They'll help the WS stay stable...
you arent gonna be winning any wedge wars with a WS, they have no drivepower so just add supports and you'll be golden

That's what I meant- the wedgelets would be there to keep the WS stable, not to have it get under opponents...
Wedglets that aren't for wedging
























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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #385 on: May 13, 2019, 09:06:12 AM »
Rebooted Twilight Forever. Drum's farther back.
 
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...and Vampire Forever's much better with a geared Beta.
 
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #386 on: May 13, 2019, 09:08:46 AM »
Rebooted Twilight Forever. Drum's farther back.
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...and Vampire Forever's much better with a geared Beta.
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Neither look terrible but does VF have counterweights on the axe? Those are essential to self righting
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #387 on: May 14, 2019, 08:50:08 AM »
Nope. I'll look into that.

Here's Vampire Forever smashing a FBS.
 
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #388 on: May 16, 2019, 09:12:46 AM »
Building a compact MW WS with Typhoon teeth.

1. Chassis as shown. Armor is 1 mm. Steel.
 
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2. 
 
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Gearmotor is up a notch. Tornado Mer is up 4 notches.
Wire the WS with a switch titled "Activate," and 3 buttons titled "Spin" "Fire" and "Srimech." All of these spin the weapon motor clockwise, and the drive motor counterclockwise.

3. Add the shell.
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4. Add the largest circular SmartZone and title it "weapon." This will boost the weapon and drive motors on the WS when it's close to an opponent.
 
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5. DONE!


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #389 on: May 16, 2019, 10:56:58 AM »
I wouldnt put this in your showcase.
but then again we dont need a whole thread for it.
really we just dont need this.

I think what you dont understand is that a WS is just a 1 wheeled full body spinner.
I did originally think there might have been more differences but looking at this guide it sorta just shows how stupid this whole claim of a wandering spinner a new special bot type.

as for the bot itself that is a lot of typhoon spam 100% people in most tournaments wouldn't allow that.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #390 on: May 17, 2019, 08:14:33 AM »
It's not so much that a one-wheeled WS is definitely a WS, but any Disk WS like the ones that use drums for wheels are definitely new, and they're definitely Wandering Spinners.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #391 on: May 17, 2019, 08:32:20 AM »
It's not so much that a one-wheeled WS is definitely a WS, but any Disk WS like the ones that use drums for wheels are definitely new, and they're definitely Wandering Spinners.
Even if they are new it doesn't mean it's good, with a WS you add so much extra battery life or add discs that weigh more than regular wheels do, so that means wandering spinner have no benefits whatsoever and that means you can finally just make normal bot types and not try to Invent stuff. Everything has been invented, so just focus on the bot types there already are instead of trying to invent stuff because there is nothing new to invent, this game has been out for 16 years and everything has been invented. Ok?
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #392 on: May 17, 2019, 11:20:16 AM »
It's not so much that a one-wheeled WS is definitely a WS, but any Disk WS like the ones that use drums for wheels are definitely new, and they're definitely Wandering Spinners.
So every hugeclone is a wandering vertical spinner extrem0r...
Got it then

Look, stop doing these stupid "new" designs. They aren't practical, they aren't good-looking, and worst of all for you, they aren't new. Focus on making bots that look good and perform decently before saying you're some great inventor of things.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #393 on: May 17, 2019, 12:29:15 PM »
It's not so much that a one-wheeled WS is definitely a WS, but any Disk WS like the ones that use drums for wheels are definitely new, and they're definitely Wandering Spinners.

Redalert changing the wheels on a bot to be drums does not make a new bot type.
I dont think thats even a matter of opinion its just not a new bot type.
There has definatley been people who have done it before and theres a reason nobody uses them.

by the description you gave now it seems all a WS is just a FBS with less control over its moment which adds 0 benefit.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #394 on: May 22, 2019, 09:36:08 AM »
Look into depth on it. I can't really explain the differences, and I'll post a vid to better explain it.

Here's a BW clamp. 175 KG, 1 mm. Titanium.
 
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Yes, I know the drive train is crooked, but it's the best I can do on a bot with this tiny of a chassis.

...and here's a cool HS called Killer Flower.
 
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #395 on: May 22, 2019, 09:57:57 AM »
I can't really explain the differences

Then maybe you shouldn't claim to have made a new type of bot if you dont even know what it is you've 'invented



The first bot is ok. Farley standard but the skirt as a wedge isnt IRL legall since people banned them in most tournaments for whatever reason.


Killer Flower would be nice but there is way too many typhoon teeth and once again wont be accepted into most tournaments.
I mean not like I can really judge it since 90% of the bot is obscured by the disc at that angle.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #396 on: May 22, 2019, 10:01:32 AM »
I can't really explain the differences

Then maybe you shouldn't claim to have made a new type of bot if you dont even know what it is you've 'invented



The first bot is ok. Farley standard but the skirt as a wedge isnt IRL legall since people banned them in most tournaments for whatever reason.


Killer Flower would be nice but there is way too many typhoon teeth and once again wont be accepted into most tournaments.
I mean not like I can really judge it since 90% of the bot is obscured by the disc at that angle.

Yeah. In fact, Killer Flower's part that's most damaged in a fight is that spinner disk.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #397 on: May 22, 2019, 11:56:37 AM »
I think what Pokebro's trying to get at is: could we get a picture of Killer Flower where we can actually see the body, without the disc in the way?

That BW clamp actually doesn't look that bad, tbh. A little messy in places, but it looks compact enough, and in a weight class dominated by overhead bar spinners, it definitely stands out. It might just be my favourite DSL build of yours so far.

Your DSL builds are definitely at their best when you stop trying so hard to be unique and trend-setting and just... build normally. I still think, with the kind of effort you put into your WS builds, you could actually become a pretty good IRL builder if you just put your mind to it.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #398 on: May 23, 2019, 12:28:43 PM »
I think what Pokebro's trying to get at is: could we get a picture of Killer Flower where we can actually see the body, without the disc in the way?

That BW clamp actually doesn't look that bad, tbh. A little messy in places, but it looks compact enough, and in a weight class dominated by overhead bar spinners, it definitely stands out. It might just be my favourite DSL build of yours so far.

Your DSL builds are definitely at their best when you stop trying so hard to be unique and trend-setting and just... build normally. I still think, with the kind of effort you put into your WS builds, you could actually become a pretty good IRL builder if you just put your mind to it.

Stole the words from my thoughts. I just like to put thought into some builds, but thanks for the advice!


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #399 on: May 24, 2019, 08:11:53 AM »
New bot.
 
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