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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #340 on: May 06, 2019, 12:32:37 PM »
Glad you like it. I'll post it in the Bot Exchange.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #341 on: May 06, 2019, 12:59:49 PM »
Just in time. I rebooted it. Still has Tit.10, but it's much better now.
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It looks alright. I quite like the shape even if the skin is still weird.
Because of where the forks are placed no hot is going to drive up the flipper. I would either move the bursts forward and have a smaller flipped or change the forks so bots go over the flipper.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #342 on: May 06, 2019, 01:42:51 PM »
The forks are designed to help the bot beat other flippers.
Yes, they need to be removed.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #343 on: May 06, 2019, 01:54:36 PM »
The forks are designed to help the bot beat other flippers.
Yes, they need to be removed.
I'm not sure they're gonna help against flippers since they're static.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #344 on: May 07, 2019, 08:32:12 AM »
Okay, now that I noticed, the fork designs are actually not bad...
The flipper sticks out far enough, and bots that are stopped by the forks are firmly situated on the flipper.
 
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Wow! this bot really flips!
 
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...and destroys!
 
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #345 on: May 07, 2019, 10:35:32 AM »
Okay, now that I noticed, the fork designs are actually not bad...
The flipper sticks out far enough, and bots that are stopped by the forks are firmly situated on the flipper.
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Wow! this bot really flips!
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...and destroys!
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I think its just a waste of weight tbh. Because a solid 1/2 of the flipper isnt being used. I would move the bursts forward so you have a shorter flipping arm which would save weight.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #346 on: May 07, 2019, 12:07:55 PM »
True...
Oh, and I believe I invented this!

It's called a "TumbleDrum" bot. It's basically putting a Full-body Spinner on its side.
TumbleDrums use weapon motors for both the weapon and the drive.
Unlike other bots, TumbleDrums won't be thrown off-balance if they lose any weapons on the drum.
 
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This TumbleDrum weighs 800.0 KG, and has 10 mm. Titanium armor.

 
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TumbleDrums move around by turning with only one motor. When the robot slams into reverse while spinning the drum, it will move back a bit.

>Strengths- TumbleDrums are thick, well-armed, and VERY difficult to juggle and flip because the juggler would have to hit the chassis, which is, unfortunately, the body of the TumbleDrum, right where the weapons are.

>weaknesses TumbleDrums cannot drive forward. They rely on opponents attacking them straigt-on. Once an opponent is in reach, however the TumbleDrum can steer towards the opponent and deliver some nasty hits.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #347 on: May 07, 2019, 12:11:59 PM »
It looks ok, if you want to make it more of a fighter you can look at some old full body drums for inspiration.

You might also want to incorporate some kind of "legs" if you're going for IRL.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #348 on: May 07, 2019, 12:13:56 PM »
Built it out of legos. This thing works in real life.
It does look rather unattractive in IRL, though... it's like a big "football" on wheels...


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #349 on: May 07, 2019, 12:14:10 PM »
True...
Oh, and I believe I invented this!

It's called a "TumbleDrum" bot. It's basically putting a Full-body Spinner on its side.
TumbleDrums use weapon motors for both the weapon and the drive.
Unlike other bots, TumbleDrums won't be thrown off-balance if they lose any weapons on the drum.
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This TumbleDrum weighs 800.0 KG, and has 10 mm. Titanium armor.

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TumbleDrums move around by turning with only one motor. When the robot slams into reverse while spinning the drum, it will move back a bit.

>Strengths- TumbleDrums are thick, well-armed, and VERY difficult to juggle and flip because the juggler would have to hit the chassis, which is, unfortunately, the body of the TumbleDrum, right where the weapons are.

>weaknesses TumbleDrums cannot drive forward. They rely on opponents attacking them straigt-on. Once an opponent is in reach, however the TumbleDrum can steer towards the opponent and deliver some nasty hits.
Tumble Drums are just Torque Reaction Full Body Drums
https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=TRFBD
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #350 on: May 07, 2019, 12:18:18 PM »
Ah. This bot should be posted in RA2 wiki, then. It's a perfect example.

Thanks for the heads-up!

Time to look for something IRL legal to invent that hasn't been made yet- Wandering Spinners are not tournament legal, and InvinciRammers are unrealistic.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #351 on: May 07, 2019, 12:54:29 PM »
Ah. This bot should be posted in RA2 wiki, then. It's a perfect example.

Thanks for the heads-up!

Time to look for something IRL legal to invent that hasn't been made yet- Wandering Spinners are not tournament legal, and InvinciRammers are unrealistic.
Look, the reason why you can't invent stuff that's legal in IRL building is because there is nothing new to invent, Snares are clamps (trust me I know) Wandering spinners are ideas from a long time ago that someone else made, then you rediscovered them under a new name, Invincirammers are just rammers with chassis mounted armor, which anything mounted to the chassis is invincible thus making it a clear exploit of the rules making it illegal. You want to invent stuff but I think before you invent stuff you should try to perfect the bot types there are, like vertical spinners, rammers, flippers, hammers, you want to think your bots are perfect but they are far from it (well idk about your stock bots because I haven't played it for a bit and nobody else is playing stock to compare you to) you need to improve with your robots, and before you go inventing anymore bot types you need to perfect the ones there are.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #352 on: May 07, 2019, 01:51:34 PM »
Ah. This bot should be posted in RA2 wiki, then. It's a perfect example.

Thanks for the heads-up!

Time to look for something IRL legal to invent that hasn't been made yet- Wandering Spinners are not tournament legal, and InvinciRammers are unrealistic.
Look, the reason why you can't invent stuff that's legal in IRL building is because there is nothing new to invent, Snares are clamps (trust me I know) Wandering spinners are ideas from a long time ago that someone else made, then you rediscovered them under a new name, Invincirammers are just rammers with chassis mounted armor, which anything mounted to the chassis is invincible thus making it a clear exploit of the rules making it illegal. You want to invent stuff but I think before you invent stuff you should try to perfect the bot types there are, like vertical spinners, rammers, flippers, hammers, you want to think your bots are perfect but they are far from it (well idk about your stock bots because I haven't played it for a bit and nobody else is playing stock to compare you to) you need to improve with your robots, and before you go inventing anymore bot types you need to perfect the ones there are.
I have agree with what Code Red said. It's clear that you haven't really done any research into the forums to see what other users have created. I can't blame you for the fact that you might of not known that users like Squirrel_Monkey had created a one wheeled spinner just like the ones you make now from years ago. But even after we flat out tell you about if your creation has already been made, just variations of already existing bots or even flat out tournament illegal, your ego kicks in and starts making a fuss about insisting that you "invented" it, claim it's only for fun and dismiss a lot of what we have to say, instead taking our word and realise the truth. Get out of your ego and look for the truth. It's not difficult.

There's nothing stopping you from experimenting with new bot combinations. Sure, go ahead and invent a side hammer with moving saw-blades, a flipper that shoots flames when it flips or a variation of punching spinner. But seriously, do your research on the forums to see what's been invented already, what's tournament legal, and actually take the word of all of us here on gametechmods, before "inventing" a new bot type and dismiss most views that prove you otherwise.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #353 on: May 07, 2019, 02:34:45 PM »
Welp, that's a boring and frankly ugly rolling pin
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #354 on: May 07, 2019, 02:46:14 PM »
i cant believe madman3 doesnt exist

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #355 on: May 07, 2019, 05:23:20 PM »
If this is IRL, it's not legal. There's no way this'll move in real life. It needs something to push against.

Either way. You're actually retarded. I could give you all the advice the others are giving, but you'll still do this
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #356 on: May 07, 2019, 05:38:31 PM »
If this is IRL, it's not legal. There's no way this'll move in real life. It needs something to push against.

Either way. You're actually retarded. I could give you all the advice the others are giving, but you'll still do this
inb4 Redalert calls you ToXIc
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #357 on: May 07, 2019, 05:38:57 PM »
If this is IRL, it's not legal. There's no way this'll move in real life. It needs something to push against.

Either way. You're actually retarded. I could give you all the advice the others are giving, but you'll still do this
inb4 Redalert calls you ToXIc

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #358 on: May 07, 2019, 05:52:30 PM »
Guys, on a scale from 1-Autism, we're at a 9, can we bring it down to a 5 or 6 maximum please, we're in public.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #359 on: May 08, 2019, 08:14:43 AM »
If this is IRL, it's not legal. There's no way this'll move in real life. It needs something to push against.

Either way. You're actually retarded. I could give you all the advice the others are giving, but you'll still do this
inb4 Redalert calls you ToXIc

haha, I know that man, plus I could make a suicide joke

Hey, I could build a working version in real life. Trust me. I'll show it to you.

...and how am I supposed to know if something's invented or not, when it hasn't been mentioned to me until last second?
I know I invented Wandering Spinners because they have never been mentioned before, and are definitely new


Enough controversy, here's TumbleDrum mini.
 
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3 mm. Aluminum, 6 beater bars.
Spins so fast, it warps!