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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #180 on: January 31, 2019, 08:17:40 AM »
Slower=more torque. Denali Coven is all about torque.
So with your logic 4 Astros have more pushing power than 6 NPC fasts
Also that bot is decent, pokers aren't used much in IRL

Could it be because they can be boring?
No it's because they suck
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #181 on: January 31, 2019, 08:18:52 AM »
Slower=more torque. Denali Coven is all about torque.
So with your logic 4 Astros have more pushing power than 6 NPC fasts
Also that bot is decent, pokers aren't used much in IRL

Could it be because they can be boring?
No it's because they suck

...so they're crappy. I'll build something else then.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #182 on: January 31, 2019, 08:22:13 AM »
Slower=more torque. Denali Coven is all about torque.
So with your logic 4 Astros have more pushing power than 6 NPC fasts
Also that bot is decent, pokers aren't used much in IRL

Could it be because they can be boring?
No it's because they suck

...so they're crappy. I'll build something else then.
Make a gutripping vert or an overhead
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #183 on: January 31, 2019, 08:58:07 AM »
Sounds good.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #184 on: January 31, 2019, 02:15:40 PM »
Slower=more torque. Denali Coven is all about torque.
Ok kiddo, I have more experience in ra2 than you and i can confirm that what you have said is false info.
Dont try to argue with me, you will lose 100% of the time

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #185 on: February 01, 2019, 08:08:39 AM »
Slower=more torque. Denali Coven is all about torque.
Ok kiddo, I have more experience in ra2 than you and i can confirm that what you have said is false info.
Dont try to argue with me, you will lose 100% of the time

I respect that.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #186 on: February 01, 2019, 08:21:20 AM »
What makes those "Invincible"?
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #187 on: February 01, 2019, 08:36:21 AM »
What makes those "Invincible"?

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #188 on: February 01, 2019, 08:36:49 AM »
What makes those "Invincible"?
Same
Oh thats not irl, as you are abusing the invisible part system

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #189 on: February 01, 2019, 08:50:48 AM »
It could be both ways. Again, you could build this bot in real life, but it wouldn't be invincible.
I wouldn't think of submitting InvinciRammers to tournaments, so don't worry.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #190 on: February 01, 2019, 10:12:46 AM »
Flipper is still not irl because of the exploit

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #191 on: February 01, 2019, 10:28:30 AM »
Flipper is still not irl because of the exploit

"Exploit?"


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #192 on: February 01, 2019, 10:37:07 AM »
Sorry im confused, how is the bot invincible?
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #193 on: February 01, 2019, 10:59:21 AM »
Sorry im confused, how is the bot invincible?
Redalert Uses an exploit where ra2 doesnt show first component. Yet collision is there. That component has no hp


Flipper is still not irl because of the exploit

"Exploit?"

exploit where ra2 doesnt show first component. Yet collision is there. That component has no hp


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #194 on: February 01, 2019, 11:22:09 AM »
ok i think what kix is trying to say is that he's attaching the poly panels directly to the chassis via RA2CF and due to how ra2 works any part that's attached directly to the chassis is invincible, it's also not a glitch that ra2 doesn't show the part, that just has to do with alwaysvisible being true or false in the .txt file.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #195 on: February 01, 2019, 12:04:19 PM »
That's correct. Whenever the bot rolls into battle, the invincible panels are gone. In that sense, it's like an IRL bot because there are no collision meshes. It looks real.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #196 on: February 01, 2019, 12:17:23 PM »
Yeah that aint legal in any IRL comp. No Host would ever allow that.
Although using invincible panels on that bot in particular wont help it. The very basic weapon and high ground clearance basically means every robot with a wedge just beats it JD.   
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #197 on: February 01, 2019, 12:19:59 PM »
That's correct. Whenever the bot rolls into battle, the invincible panels are gone. In that sense, it's like an IRL bot because there are no collision meshes. It looks real.
The panels have no visual meshes, however they retain their collision meshes, which is exactly why they make the bot 'invincible' and also why the bot is not IRL legal. Invisible, invincible discs do not exist in the real world :P
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #198 on: February 01, 2019, 12:20:24 PM »
That's why I don't plan on entering that bot into any tournaments.
...and you could make a bot in real life like it, where the panels show, but it wouldn't be invisible or invincible.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #199 on: February 01, 2019, 12:38:56 PM »
That's why I don't plan on entering that bot into any tournaments.
...and you could make a bot in real life like it, where the panels show, but it wouldn't be invisible or invincible.
If your not gonna enter it into tournaments that fair game actually.
Personally I just dont find the appeal in an indestructible bot in the first place since whats the point of playing if you already know if you know your never gonna get destroyed or beaten. Sorta ruins the fun of the competition.



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