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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2019, 04:36:00 PM »
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2019, 05:00:26 PM »
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2019, 06:01:35 PM »
looks like sh** and also wouldn't pass safety at any decently run tournament
It probably would pass in most tournaments since there doesn't look to be much clipping unless they consider it to have no real means of movement which is kinda understandable.
Also I hate to be that guy but I would probably explain why it looks like sh** instead of just saying it without giving helpful advice.

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it wouldnt pass safety because it only has one wheel meaning it can't exhibit controlled movement, thats kind of a requirement

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2019, 06:03:17 PM »
looks like sh** and also wouldn't pass safety at any decently run tournament
It probably would pass in most tournaments since there doesn't look to be much clipping unless they consider it to have no real means of movement which is kinda understandable.
Also I hate to be that guy but I would probably explain why it looks like sh** instead of just saying it without giving helpful advice.

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it wouldnt pass safety because it only has one wheel meaning it can't exhibit controlled movement, thats kind of a requirement
and before any of you goofs pull the meltybrain card, no, by how this robot is designed it couldn't use that mechanism.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #84 on: January 10, 2019, 07:59:08 PM »
Wandering spinners are not for tournaments, except for my No Mind Devastation tournaments.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #85 on: January 10, 2019, 08:55:54 PM »
ok let me change my tone of advice then

it's going to get gutripped by every dsl robot under the sun and also you have way too much empty space. protect the bottom

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #86 on: January 14, 2019, 12:06:23 PM »
Building a shell WS

I. chassis adjusted as shown. Armor is 5mm. Titanium.
 
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II. baseplate anchor up as high as possible.
 
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III. Add a disk on a dual TWM3R2 as shown.
 
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IV. Add 60 cm. Plates onto the disk. Then, add small Typhoon teeth.
 
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V. WIRING- drive motor spins counterclockwise, weapon motor spins clockwise.

VI. Add a sawblade to the top as extra armor and for decoration.
 
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #87 on: January 14, 2019, 12:11:27 PM »
You got too many bats in that fam. Like 1 red should be good.
On top of that, it's really tall for little reason, thus resulting in it being unstable
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2019, 12:20:31 PM »
Considering you supposedly shoot for effectiveness over looks, this thing is super sub-optimal.

As Hop mentioned, you have too many batts.

Also there's the fact that you have 8 small typhoons. I've seen that amount of weapons matched by other MW shells which also have actual drive. Considering the whole point of wandering spinners (as far as I'm aware) is supposedly to sacrifice drive for more weapons, you really haven't got enough.

The thing is way taller than it needs to be too, which is wasting more weight.

The long and short of it is, if you're going for efficiency, then you don't have enough weapons and you have a bunch of sub-optimal design choices here

And if you're going for looks, well it's an incredibly run-of-the mill shell spinner with 8 typhoons and a shell that's way too tall.

You need to decide if this thing is going for looks or efficiency, and change the design accordingly, because right now it's failing on both fronts
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2019, 12:32:54 PM »
I feel that your weapon motor is way too high. Switch out the base anchor with a extender anchor to lower the dual TWM3R2. That way when you create the shell, you find that you'll have some weight left over for better weapons such as large typhoon teeth etc.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2019, 12:37:51 PM »
Okay. I'm making a reboot now.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2019, 03:14:25 PM »
resize your chassis so you can mount the weapon motor inside the chassis. also it needs way more weapons

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2019, 03:16:04 PM »
Pic not available right now, but I followed your advice (surprising, right?) and threw together a flatter WS with all motors inside the body.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #93 on: January 15, 2019, 12:52:18 PM »
Okay! 2 more WS!

Building a BW IRL WS

I. chassis adjusted as shown. Armor is 5 mm. Titanium.
 
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II. Battlepack is up 4 notches.
 
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III. Remember- IRL- In Real Life. Use a disk that doesn't intersect the chassis. I used a saw. Extender holding the twm on is Titanium.
 
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IV. Wiring. Drive rotates counterclockwise, weapon rotates clockwise.

V. DONE!


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #94 on: January 15, 2019, 12:56:47 PM »
Here's the rebooted IRL MW WS...

Building a smooth-running WS

I. Chassis as shown. Armor is 5 mm. Titanium.
 
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II. Twm3r2 up all the way.
 
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III. Add the spinner. There are a total of 9 small typhoon teeth on this bot.
 
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IV. WIRING- drive rotates counterclockwise, weapon motor rotates clockwise.

V. To get rid of extra weight, add LEDs. They look cool on this WS.
 
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #95 on: January 15, 2019, 12:57:26 PM »
III. Remember- IRL- In Real Life. Use a disk that doesn't intersect the chassis. I used a saw. Extender holding the twm on is Titanium.
Hate to say it dude but this thing isn't remotely IRL. The way that weapon motor is totally exposed and not really supported doesn't fit with the IRL ruleset. What you got here is a standard bot.

The FBS certainly looks better than the last one you built, but again I really can't see WHY it needs to have 1WD. You'd gain so much by having proper drive and wouldn't lose much at all in the way of weaponry. You also still have too many batteries. 1 of those black batts is sufficient for 2 motors like you have on it
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #96 on: January 15, 2019, 01:51:06 PM »
III. Remember- IRL- In Real Life. Use a disk that doesn't intersect the chassis. I used a saw. Extender holding the twm on is Titanium.
Hate to say it dude but this thing isn't remotely IRL. The way that weapon motor is totally exposed and not really supported doesn't fit with the IRL ruleset. What you got here is a standard bot.

The FBS certainly looks better than the last one you built, but again I really can't see WHY it needs to have 1WD. You'd gain so much by having proper drive and wouldn't lose much at all in the way of weaponry. You also still have too many batteries. 1 of those black batts is sufficient for 2 motors like you have on it

I think of TWM3Rs that are exposed as gearboxes. Okay, I have an idea for a Disk IRL WS. It looks like Tombstone.
Again, I see your point about batteries, but WS are different. You realize WS can't nearly put in as many hits on an opponent as an original opponent can in a single battery charge. An extra battery allows WS to deliver more powerful damage.

I will definitely look into single-battery WS, though.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #97 on: January 15, 2019, 02:06:02 PM »
WS are different. You realize WS can't nearly put in as many hits on an opponent as an original opponent can in a single battery charge. An extra battery allows WS to deliver more powerful damage.
I will definitely look into single-battery WS, though.

That's not how the relationship between batteries and motors work, there's a set amount of power that's outputted consistently till the battery life runs out with no way of overvolting it to increase it's RPM output.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #98 on: January 15, 2019, 05:21:37 PM »
you don't need to post 4 images per bot. it's not giving us more information or insight

it's just more images that everyone's connection has to load
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #99 on: January 16, 2019, 10:37:12 AM »
you don't need to post 4 images per bot. it's not giving us more information or insight

it's just more images that everyone's connection has to load

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