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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #140 on: January 23, 2019, 06:28:07 AM »
what's the point, it's not going to get any grip on the ground ??? plus this is just a weird hs

this "wheel"-base also look fairly wide exposed to me. you should hit the enemy with that weapon, not your "wheels".

Okay, drum HS only need enough traction to actually accelerate. That’s it. The less traction, the more reliable the WS is, and the less prone it is to getting stuck.

I’m considering armoring hte wheels. Thanks for that.
Just use regular wheels and make it a HS with actual controlled movement

If I don’t want it to be a WS, yes. I can just modify the controls, and switch the drums to wheels.
Why would you want it the be a WS? Most LW HSes have longer reach than your robot and could kill it easily. Use actual wheels for the drive to save weight, switch the weapon to a flatmotor (it's found using cheatbot2, should be the second to last motor with cheatbot2 enabled), get rid of the beaters, as they don't help one bit. and switch the weapon to a long DSL bar. Bang, you have traction, more reach, and more weapon power iirc.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #141 on: January 23, 2019, 07:30:30 AM »
what's the point, it's not going to get any grip on the ground ??? plus this is just a weird hs

this "wheel"-base also look fairly wide exposed to me. you should hit the enemy with that weapon, not your "wheels".

Okay, drum HS only need enough traction to actually accelerate. That’s it. The less traction, the more reliable the WS is, and the less prone it is to getting stuck.

I’m considering armoring hte wheels. Thanks for that.
Just use regular wheels and make it a HS with actual controlled movement

If I don’t want it to be a WS, yes. I can just modify the controls, and switch the drums to wheels.
Why would you want it the be a WS? Most LW HSes have longer reach than your robot and could kill it easily. Use actual wheels for the drive to save weight, switch the weapon to a flatmotor (it's found using cheatbot2, should be the second to last motor with cheatbot2 enabled), get rid of the beaters, as they don't help one bit. and switch the weapon to a long DSL bar. Bang, you have traction, more reach, and more weapon power iirc.

Why hate me for trying?
I already have so many WS with DSL bars... one is being made now. It also mentions everything you prescribed above- 1 rubber wheel- a disk motor (I call them chain motors), a DSL bar tipped with beaters. and armor at the front end.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #142 on: January 23, 2019, 07:56:25 AM »
Its not hate, more a valid criticism of the benefit of it being a wandering spinner compared to just a regular bot
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #143 on: January 23, 2019, 07:58:01 AM »
Yeah, to be blunt Redalert, you said you make WS as they are original and not generic to you. But people don't care about WS because frankly it's not good. People will like you more if you just make it a regular HS than a WS, and then improve your building.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #144 on: January 23, 2019, 04:27:03 PM »
The bot you made has no advantages over the same bot with tractioned wheels

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #145 on: January 23, 2019, 05:44:11 PM »
Okay, I just built a ton of WS and basic IRL bots. I'll display them later.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #146 on: January 24, 2019, 08:19:10 AM »
Cambered Wandering Spinner...
I. Chassis as shown. It's up to you what armor you put on it.
 
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II. 
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Tornado Mag up as high as possiblt.

III. 
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It's up to you what weapons you use...

IV. WIRING- Drive rotates counterclockwise, spinner rotates clockwise.

V. DONE!


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #147 on: January 24, 2019, 08:21:46 AM »
Now, some NOT WS...
Best MW IRL popup.
 
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Saw, lol.
 
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My best HS. 801 kg, 5 mm. Steel.
 
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #148 on: January 24, 2019, 08:27:45 AM »
Okay, so few stuff:
Popups dont really work on DSL IRL
Saw motor needs support to kinda cover it up
Hypno teeth is nowhere near as powerful as Typhoon teeth
not bad tbh

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #149 on: January 24, 2019, 08:28:44 AM »
"IRL popup" is an oxymoron. No IRL tournament is gonna accept a popup because in real life Popups would do pretty much no damage
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #150 on: January 24, 2019, 08:31:56 AM »
IRL popup is more like a weapon flipper

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #151 on: January 24, 2019, 08:34:23 AM »
Okay, so few stuff:
Popups dont really work on DSL IRL
Saw motor needs support to kinda cover it up
Hypno teeth is nowhere near as powerful as Typhoon teeth
not bad tbh

Too many of my bots have typhoon teeth. I want to try Hypno teeth just this once...
...and the MW IRL popup actually works. I could build a working copy of it out of legos. It just doesn't do as much damage as an unrealistic popup, and functions more like a flipper in IRL...
The saw motor really does need more cover. That's why I ditched that bot.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #152 on: January 24, 2019, 08:43:07 AM »
Okay, so few stuff:
Popups dont really work on DSL IRL
Saw motor needs support to kinda cover it up
Hypno teeth is nowhere near as powerful as Typhoon teeth
not bad tbh
...and the MW IRL popup actually works. I could build a working copy of it out of legos. It just doesn't do as much damage as an unrealistic popup, and functions more like a flipper in IRL...
As you've been told before, IRL is about more than simply being able to be physically built (that's pretty much what Standard is actually)

Honestly I don't think IRL building is for you, which is fine. Standard needs more builders and you clearly think about building in a way that meshes well with standard building
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #153 on: January 24, 2019, 09:00:31 AM »
IRL popup is more like a weapon flipper
agreed.

I'd prefer if your "pop-up" was just a straight up flipper that uses extenders to make the flipper. Also, there are extender anchors that weigh 4 kgs. Try using those to save a little space and see if you can fit a VDMA in for the flipper. I'd say the battery power can be brought down to 2 blacks to help the weight. The shirts are generally frowned upon in IRL, so I'd suggest using the wedgelets in the weapons tab instead. Finally, please make your armor/skin more aesthetically pleasing. They aren't the most atrocious things in the world, but IRL is largely about looks.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #154 on: January 24, 2019, 09:20:23 AM »
IRL popup is more like a weapon flipper
agreed.

I'd prefer if your "pop-up" was just a straight up flipper that uses extenders to make the flipper. Also, there are extender anchors that weigh 4 kgs. Try using those to save a little space and see if you can fit a VDMA in for the flipper. I'd say the battery power can be brought down to 2 blacks to help the weight. The shirts are generally frowned upon in IRL, so I'd suggest using the wedgelets in the weapons tab instead. Finally, please make your armor/skin more aesthetically pleasing. They aren't the most atrocious things in the world, but IRL is largely about looks.

Thanks for the advice! I'll make and post a reboot soon...


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #155 on: January 24, 2019, 09:25:26 AM »
It's a weaponed flipper. It's fine for IRL purposes as long as it's not too popup-y

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #156 on: January 24, 2019, 09:31:00 AM »
It's a weaponed flipper. It's fine for IRL purposes as long as it's not too popup-y

It's not to popup-like.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #157 on: January 24, 2019, 09:34:24 AM »
Pretty decent attempt at a big wedge flipper. Honestly would be my favorate bot you've made if it wasn't for the out of place twighlight image on the top of it.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #158 on: January 24, 2019, 09:36:40 AM »
Pretty decent attempt at a big wedge flipper. Honestly would be my favorate bot you've made if it wasn't for the out of place twighlight image on the top of it.

...neater paintjob, I suspect?


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #159 on: January 24, 2019, 09:37:39 AM »
Pretty decent attempt at a big wedge flipper. Honestly would be my favorate bot you've made if it wasn't for the out of place twighlight image on the top of it.

...neater paintjob, I suspect?
In short yeah.
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