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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #100 on: January 16, 2019, 10:40:09 AM »
you don't need to post 4 images per bot. it's not giving us more information or insight

it's just more images that everyone's connection has to load

Okay, what about all the people that are new to DSL?

New WS pack out!
Responding with 'what about the people who are new to DSL' for every bit of feedback you get isnt a valid point
 
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #101 on: January 16, 2019, 03:20:02 PM »
you don't need to post 4 images per bot. it's not giving us more information or insight

it's just more images that everyone's connection has to load

Okay, what about all the people that are new to DSL?

New WS pack out!
Responding with 'what about the people who are new to DSL' for every bit of feedback you get isnt a valid point
This is assuming that anyone cares about Wandering Spinners.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #102 on: January 16, 2019, 03:23:42 PM »
Wandering Spinners are unique, and many bot builders have a taste for bots other than WS.

Again, many people come to GTM for ideas and downloads, especially people new to RA2, so I don't think it's a bad idea...


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #103 on: January 16, 2019, 04:44:33 PM »
Wandering Spinners are unique, and many bot builders have a taste for bots other than WS.

Again, many people come to GTM for ideas and downloads, especially people new to RA2, so I don't think it's a bad idea...
Ok dude, I don't mean to make you feel bad but.
No one is interested in WS.
All the people who are making them are doing it to take the piss. I know you have good intentions and I'm sure you have skill in bot building-he'll that weird bug thing you made was awesome- but your pushing WS too much dude. People don't care as much about them as you think. If you really want push the idea of unique designs don't make a load of WS because then your defeating your own beliefs.
I'm sorry dude but you just gotta know.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #104 on: January 17, 2019, 07:10:40 AM »
Wandering Spinners are unique, and many bot builders have a taste for bots other than WS.

Again, many people come to GTM for ideas and downloads, especially people new to RA2, so I don't think it's a bad idea...
Ok dude, I don't mean to make you feel bad but.
No one is interested in WS.
All the people who are making them are doing it to take the piss. I know you have good intentions and I'm sure you have skill in bot building-he'll that weird bug thing you made was awesome- but your pushing WS too much dude. People don't care as much about them as you think.
And yet everytime he posts a wandering spinner he gets a guaranteed ten replies that all keep saying the same thing. I sure wish I got that many replies on my bots.

If we don't care about his WS builds, maybe we should just... ignore them?
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #105 on: January 17, 2019, 08:06:55 AM »
And yet everytime he posts a wandering spinner he gets a guaranteed ten replies that all keep saying the same thing. I sure wish I got that many replies on my bots.

If we don't care about his WS builds, maybe we should just... ignore them?
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #106 on: January 17, 2019, 08:26:31 AM »
Building a MW IRL WS

I. Chassis designed as shown. Armor is 1 mm. Steel.
 
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II. NOTE- the disks are there to just keep track of weight. They will be replaced later.
     This design uses 2 long batteries and an antweight battery.
 
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III. Now, to make the bot IRL. Add aluminum square extenders however you like. I made a triangular frame out of them. The disk has small typhoon teeth on it.
 
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IV. Add a small panel to the underside of the bot to keep it from being annihilated by popups.
 
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Now, add top armor.
 
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V. Remove the disks, and replace them with large drums. These will be the wheels. I added antweight blades to protect the drums.
 
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VI. WIRING- Left motor rotates counterclockwise, right motor and weapon motor rotate clockwise.

VII. DONE!


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #107 on: January 17, 2019, 08:35:29 AM »
It's certainly closer to IRL than your last one, but it's still not quite there. The axle of your weapon motor needs to be fully supported by the extenders. You may need the Component Freedom mod to do this, but it's pretty much universally legal in IRL building so there's no issue there (just remember to turn it off again when you're building Standard or Unrealistic bots)

Again, I don't get why you don't just give it wheels. I'm aware I'm probably wasting my breath but you'd gain so much by having full controlled movement, and it's not even like you're saving weight in this configuration. Those drums probably weigh as much if not more than proper wheels. The setup you have here really is a lose-lose.

You also once AGAIN have too much battery. You can ditch 1 of the black batts and still have enough power for 3 motors easily.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #108 on: January 17, 2019, 08:37:54 AM »
It's certainly closer to IRL than your last one, but it's still not quite there. The axle of your weapon motor needs to be fully supported by the extenders. You may need the Component Freedom mod to do this, but it's pretty much universally legal in IRL building so there's no issue there (just remember to turn it off again when you're building Standard or Unrealistic bots)

Again, I don't get why you don't just give it wheels. I'm aware I'm probably wasting my breath but you'd gain so much by having full controlled movement, and it's not even like you're saving weight in this configuration. Those drums probably weigh as much if not more than proper wheels. The setup you have here really is a lose-lose.

You also once AGAIN have too much battery. You can ditch 1 of the black batts and still have enough power for 3 motors easily.

I tried that. It's the same question of- How do you get the chain motor to stick out of the chassis? Every time I do that, it turns red, and I can't place it.

This WS actually does sufficiently well on drums. It bounces off the walls with ease, and will drive forward...eventually...


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #109 on: January 17, 2019, 08:40:35 AM »
It's certainly closer to IRL than your last one, but it's still not quite there. The axle of your weapon motor needs to be fully supported by the extenders. You may need the Component Freedom mod to do this, but it's pretty much universally legal in IRL building so there's no issue there (just remember to turn it off again when you're building Standard or Unrealistic bots)

Again, I don't get why you don't just give it wheels. I'm aware I'm probably wasting my breath but you'd gain so much by having full controlled movement, and it's not even like you're saving weight in this configuration. Those drums probably weigh as much if not more than proper wheels. The setup you have here really is a lose-lose.

You also once AGAIN have too much battery. You can ditch 1 of the black batts and still have enough power for 3 motors easily.

I tried that. It's the same question of- How do you get the chain motor to stick out of the chassis? Every time I do that, it turns red, and I can't place it.
You need the component freedom mod, like I said.

This WS actually does sufficiently well on drums. It bounces off the walls with ease, and will drive forward...eventually...
Pretty sure it would do better on wheels my dude. People use them for a reason
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #110 on: January 17, 2019, 08:48:00 AM »
It's certainly closer to IRL than your last one, but it's still not quite there. The axle of your weapon motor needs to be fully supported by the extenders. You may need the Component Freedom mod to do this, but it's pretty much universally legal in IRL building so there's no issue there (just remember to turn it off again when you're building Standard or Unrealistic bots)

Again, I don't get why you don't just give it wheels. I'm aware I'm probably wasting my breath but you'd gain so much by having full controlled movement, and it's not even like you're saving weight in this configuration. Those drums probably weigh as much if not more than proper wheels. The setup you have here really is a lose-lose.

You also once AGAIN have too much battery. You can ditch 1 of the black batts and still have enough power for 3 motors easily.

I tried that. It's the same question of- How do you get the chain motor to stick out of the chassis? Every time I do that, it turns red, and I can't place it.
You need the component freedom mod, like I said.

This WS actually does sufficiently well on drums. It bounces off the walls with ease, and will drive forward...eventually...
Pretty sure it would do better on wheels my dude. People use them for a reason

I tried wheels on a drum WS. They only work on some. Most of them just get stuck.

I have CF, but I don't see it when I play DSL. Do I just select the "RA2 (component freedom)" application instead of the basic "RA2" application?

Just a heads-up, I'm on a WS building spri.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #111 on: January 17, 2019, 03:28:54 PM »
A bot that's not a WS.
 
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #112 on: January 17, 2019, 04:22:42 PM »
A bot that's not a WS.
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I forgot how I did it, but I just invented a glitch that makes 10 mm. Steel as light as 5 mm. Steel.
See isn't that nice. A bot that has no weird design that you think is cool and clever just a simple neat bot. No WS no Drum wheels. I'm glad your listening to advice now.

Personally I think it's not terrible considering you've only just started IRL building. The wedges could be pushed forward and made smaller to properly look like a real bot. Maybe try making the bot as a whole more interesting. Unlike the other Metas IRL is a lot about making bots look fun and stuff or at least that's how I and a few others see it. Experiment with shapes and designs that could be more interesting.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #113 on: January 17, 2019, 04:26:35 PM »
A bot that's not a WS.
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I forgot how I did it, but I just invented a glitch that makes 10 mm. Steel as light as 5 mm. Steel.
See isn't that nice. A bot that has no weird design that you think is cool and clever just a simple neat bot. No WS no Drum wheels. I'm glad your listening to advice now.

Personally I think it's not terrible considering you've only just started IRL building. The wedges could be pushed forward and made smaller to properly look like a real bot. Maybe try making the bot as a whole more interesting. Unlike the other Metas IRL is a lot about making bots look fun and stuff or at least that's how I and a few others see it. Experiment with shapes and designs that could be more interesting.

Wandering Spinners are very complicated, so It's difficult to follow advice on those.

Other bots, however, Yes. It's very interesting what you can make in DSL, I can tell you that.


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #114 on: January 17, 2019, 04:46:53 PM »
A bot that's not a WS.
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I forgot how I did it, but I just invented a glitch that makes 10 mm. Steel as light as 5 mm. Steel.
See isn't that nice. A bot that has no weird design that you think is cool and clever just a simple neat bot. No WS no Drum wheels. I'm glad your listening to advice now.

Personally I think it's not terrible considering you've only just started IRL building. The wedges could be pushed forward and made smaller to properly look like a real bot. Maybe try making the bot as a whole more interesting. Unlike the other Metas IRL is a lot about making bots look fun and stuff or at least that's how I and a few others see it. Experiment with shapes and designs that could be more interesting.

Wandering Spinners are very complicated, so It's difficult to follow advice on those.

Other bots, however, Yes. It's very interesting what you can make in DSL, I can tell you that.
They don't seem very complicated although I don't think I ever said they weren't in the previous feedback I have to you.
I'm not really sure where you got that idea from but you were right in thinking so.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #115 on: January 17, 2019, 05:05:27 PM »
A bot that's not a WS.
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I forgot how I did it, but I just invented a glitch that makes 10 mm. Steel as light as 5 mm. Steel.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #116 on: January 17, 2019, 10:12:15 PM »
Congrats on making a bot with wheels. Its armor is really messy and looks tacked on. Try to integrate the armor closer to the rest of the chassis and design.
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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #117 on: January 18, 2019, 02:22:05 AM »
chassis seems very nice and compact, you did a good job minimizing chassis space. like superbomb said the armor panels look a bit messy, work on making it look more clean.

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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #118 on: January 18, 2019, 07:04:20 AM »
chassis seems very nice and compact, you did a good job minimizing chassis space. like superbomb said the armor panels look a bit messy, work on making it look more clean.

Messy? I fail to see how, but It does a bang-up job in combat.

I need to build some hammers and more wandering spinners since I'm hosting a personal tournament. (I'm hosting a personal because my public one isn't doing so well at the moment...)


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Re: Redalert's rare DSL builds and WS
« Reply #119 on: January 18, 2019, 07:06:58 AM »
chassis seems very nice and compact, you did a good job minimizing chassis space. like superbomb said the armor panels look a bit messy, work on making it look more clean.

Messy? I fail to see how, but It does a bang-up job in combat.

I need to build some hammers and more wandering spinners since I'm hosting a personal tournament. (I'm hosting a personal because my public one isn't doing so well at the moment...)
They're all very incoherent. There's no real "flow" to the panelwork. It's like you just slapped on a bunch of panels. It would look a lot better if they looked more connected and flowed into each other better
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