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Robot Arena => Showcases => DSL TC Showcases => Topic started by: R1885 on October 03, 2008, 05:56:19 PM
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MAN THAT WAS I PAIN. But yay! I got DSL to work! Heres a random bot.
Bullet Speeder:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43011screenshot_252.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43011screenshot_252.JPG) (http://[IMG)
The drive is NPC fasts. Feed back wanted. Remeber, I'm more used to stock. So my early DSL bots may suck. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
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Watch out, I hear Naryar's growl of doom.
Not to good, not total suck. Meh.
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What armor does it have?
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DSL is great isn't it. Now try a bot with an active weapon, and remember to fill open space and build to the weight limit. That is a good Snowjob-like bot. Remember to add up the amps, because you don't have enough battery power there.
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DSL is great isn't it. Now try a bot with an active weapon, and remember to fill open space and build to the weight limit. That is a good Snowjob-like bot. Remember to add up the amps, because you don't have enough battery power there.
You meen LIKE THIS?:
Sheck Shock:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18331screenshot_254.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18331screenshot_254.JPG) (http://[IMG)
The bars are there to get under the belly of other bots. Uses 5mm tite. Now another bot my bro made.
N.P.V.2:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5075screenshot_256.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5075screenshot_256.JPG) (http://[IMG)
As you can see, he has no regard for the R.R., and of course, its under powerd, but give him a break, he rarely plays.
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Your bot has left over weight. Add more weapons!
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You dont need that thick of armour for a shell spinner, most weight should be directed to the weapon.
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Honestly, Naryar is critical to the point of where it's hysterical.
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Really? I actually haven't noticed that. And I'm not joking either.
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@Inf:Yeah yeah yeah... I'm getting berserk on n00b whacking these days. I'll calm down a little, perhaps.
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@R1885: There are no DSL tuto's like in stock, you're pretty much on your own now.
Just some tips:
-In DSL, you can use all weapons efficiently.
-The best armors are Titanium 1, 5, and 10mm and Plastic 3mm.
-Get your amp imput (consumed by motors) equal as you amp output(provided by batteries), or even a little higher.
-Empty space rule always applies, of course.
-There are grippier wheels than others - especially, Vladiator's, Tornado's, Hypnodisc's, and the best, Techno Destructo's. Using a grippier wheel means that you will go faster with the same motor. Try different wheels on a same motor- you'll feel the difference.
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Sys32: You should really make your own DSL showcase...
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Okay.
I'll make one.
That shell spinner is okay.
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You need at LEAST a six magmotor gearbox for a shell spinner. You should probably set the armor to it's lowest setting so you can focus on the weapons or not making the drive train stink. Sheck spinners are hard to make but that's how I learned to make them.
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1mm Titanium is enough, because if you put 1mm Plastic you'l get RAPED by any bot that can get under you even once.
Or, put some titanium half plates on your bot's belly, like Tempest (MEGATON)
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Are not the Wheely Big Cheese wheels also grippy? Naryar didn't mention them.
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Yeah... I thought to them, but they're very big and do look horrible IMO. Very big means it isn't as easy as the other wheels to get a low ground clearance, because you need a tall bot to have low ground clearance with big wheels.
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And they weigh ALOT.
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Yeah... I thought to them, but they're very big and do look horrible IMO. Very big means it isn't as easy as the other wheels to get a low ground clearance, because you need a tall bot to have low ground clearance with big wheels.
Personally, I love how they look, but thay are just TOO DARN BIG.
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I like how they look too.
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Well Ive been building a new bot for you all, its my CE type bot. DarkMater3 (named that due to a old stock bot.)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62212screenshot_276.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62212screenshot_276.JPG) (http://[IMG)
It uses 5mm steel and NPC fasts. I built it to last. And about its power-
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/92967screenshot_275.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/92967screenshot_275.JPG) (http://[IMG)
It fliped a car. Oh, and gut image has incorect info. Thats before I chaged to steel.:bigsmile: Feed Back is needed.
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Pretty good, But you can definatly cut down on wasted space.
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I flip the car with my MW flipper. Farther. question...why doesnt it flip as well in game?
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Well Ive been building a new bot for you all, its my CE type bot. DarkMater3 (named that due to a old stock bot.)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62212screenshot_276.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62212screenshot_276.JPG) (http://[IMG)
It uses 5mm steel and NPC fasts. I built it to last. And about its power-
If the wheels aren't back further to protect them, then shorten the box portion of the wedge and bring the batteries into where the chip is located. Also, are you sure you are not overkilling it with battery power? To check just do some simple math with all the amps on the weapons and drives and that will tell you the amount of battery power you need to make it run.
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I flip the car with my MW flipper. Farther. question...why doesnt it flip as well in game?
A lot of flipping is about getting the right grip on a bot. You have all the time you need to get the perfect shot on a car, but an enemy is constantly moving so you can't hook up as perfectly. If it's not that though, then I don't know.
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I guess you haven't been on for awhile seeing your join date but please don't double post. You could've added that other post to your last post just by editing it.
Anyways... not bad but I agree with Urjak that you should find a way to make the chassis smaller and then I think this would be a better bot.
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Hmm
I don't need to see it flipping the car to see that it's a good flipper, and wedges are definitely good, as the ground clearance.
BUT:
-perhaps 50% of the chassis is empty space. if you lower the height of that robot you will be able to self right easily.
-you don't need that much armor. try titanium instead. best armor is titanium.
-slightly underpowered, i would add another black batt.
-add several weapons like CE. IMO static weapons are great in any bot.
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New bot in DSL. This one is for ELBITE Table Top match ups. Its name is Infi-Not. (Name do to it looking like HayMaker)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22068screenshot_305.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22068screenshot_305.JPG) (http://[IMG)
It moves insanely fast for its size, do to high traction and over sized drive motors. Its so fast that it bounces of walls.
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7307screenshot_303.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7307screenshot_303.JPG) (http://[IMG)
Wow. And the funny thing is that-
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73168screenshot_304.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73168screenshot_304.JPG) (http://[IMG)
-it tossed it-self out! Feed back please.:-D
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$5 says it drives OOTA in all of its tabletop matches.
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$5 says it drives OOTA in all of its tabletop matches.
LOL. But alas, its not going to ELBITE, to fast, and theres no chance in heck for any control. But I have all three Infi-nots.
The first one uses four NPC-64s.(TT)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43908screenshot_306.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43908screenshot_306.JPG) (http://[IMG)
The next is almost the same, but uses MAGS.(KOH)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39125screenshot_307.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39125screenshot_307.JPG) (http://[IMG)
The final one is HayMaker style.(DM)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43291screenshot_308.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43291screenshot_308.JPG) (http://[IMG)
Feed Back is welcomed.
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This isn't going to fair very well in ELBITE...
TT-Too fast, and the motor setup suggests that it has poor ground clearance for a pusher. Poor wheel choice
KotH- Not too bad.
Deathmatch-weak weapons for a MW, will fall quickly if you face a heavily armored bot
Plenty of empty space
Extender setup could be lighter
Useless heavy plow in TT version
Poor battery setup for the SnS...
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$5 says it drives OOTA in all of its tabletop matches.
There's no powerful motors in the game that AREN'T fast.
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Now this bot, THIS bot is the one your all gona love! I give you, Tempest2000
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74048screenshot_326.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74048screenshot_326.JPG) (http://[IMG)
If your wondering what the Vald wedges are for, I put them on to make sure that if it lost a hammer, it will still stay in control. BATTLE SHOTS!
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22375screenshot_313.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22375screenshot_313.JPG) (http://[IMG)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/89424screenshot_314.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/89424screenshot_314.JPG) (http://[IMG)
You can't tell form the image, but one of the hits tore off both side spiners, AND a side ramplate
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94398screenshot_316.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94398screenshot_316.JPG) (http://[IMG)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51477screenshot_317.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51477screenshot_317.JPG) (http://[IMG)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/71860screenshot_321.JPG[/IMG]](https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/71860screenshot_321.JPG) (http://[IMG)
You should know, the armor is 1mm, plastic.:shock: Yes, 1mm PLASTIC. It runs on three battle paks.
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thats the second pinball clone... both of them worse then the original, especially the new version.
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ha. and he tried so much to make his post impressive.
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thats the second pinball clone... both of them worse then the original, especially the new version.
Huh? I did? I was just makeing what I think what Tempest and Haymaker's offspring would look like. I had no intent to copy your bot Sage.
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Then you have watched none of RAW.
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Then you have watched none of RAW.
My computer completly mangles video not on Youtube. Colors off, grany video, bad load times, the list gos on and on.
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They aren't even on Youtube.
Edit: Whoops, misread the post.
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everyone is really gay with the pinball clones.
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I have worked hard on this bot, so you should enjoy it, it most likely my most disructive bot in months, presenting- (Please mind the crapy 1337 speek)
XLR8 83ST
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/90404screenshot_374.JPG)
And guts!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57317screenshot_355.JPG)
This bot is most likely my best bot in DSL. It throws other bots like light weights! It also has what I call the death grip, you see, the spiners of that type, in four out of five bots, spin so that bots in the spikes go up, but my bot's spikes spin downward. As a result, it traps other bots in two of the spikes, doing constant damage, and points. Uses 1mm tite, and NPC fasts. And here it is in battle.
SheBeast
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/65778screenshot_373.JPG)
Smashbox2
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/88870screenshot_372.JPG)
CE
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41670screenshot_356.JPG)
Shogun(The bot shown is the prototype)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43205screenshot_353.JPG)
And what hapens when you get in the death grip.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7953screenshot_360.JPG)
And Tricolps Vr.2
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/2015screenshot_371.JPG)
Do you like it?
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very nice. very nice indeed.
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Not bad at all.
Hinged wedges don't work very well on fast bots, that said.
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Realy? It works well for my bot.
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Oh, well if you say it.
I've done tests with Mako and i can say he is better against slow wedged bots that against fast wedged bots.
IMO it's why DOAM faired well against several slow bots (and one fast but Psyco had a mediocre wedge) was stopped by fast bots with good wedges, a.k.a. Enfilad3 and Hazcon.
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Why is it that my stock showcase gets more comments than my DSl showcase?
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These are the bots that never made it. Most of them are O.K., but I will show you.
Meka
I wanted some thing with tank treads, but it proved un-reliable. Was for ELBITE.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/78946screenshot_389.JPG)
Small JX powers the EW. KOTH used a ax, DM used a E-Tek powerd Minion disk.
Idikia
Before Infi-Not and HR-H (at bottom of post) this was going to be my ELBITE entry, but I wanted some thing, different. I like it, but I just wanted some thing else.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/69882screenshot_390.JPG)
KOTH uses two 30kig hammers, DM uses a E-Tek powered disk with teeth.
DREAD ALL
This was going to be a RAW entry, but then became my Robots Live, then was scraped all together. I might use it for GUMBA
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/85278screenshot_394.JPG)
Now a bot that did make it into ELBITE, sort-off a Enfilad3 clone, I at least tried to make it look like my own robot, so I slaped on a Tite sheet on a wedge, and here it is, HR-H.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/77532screenshot_397.JPG)
And KOTH
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8395screenshot_398.JPG)
TT looks almost the same as DM, but the razors removed.
Yes, I know that the plastic extender is half way through the ESC. My answer to that is you can cut the plastic.
Any Feed Back?
EDIT: Forgot to mention, HR-H uses 3mm Alu.
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Tank-Tredded bots would actually fair pretty well in the ELBITE Tabletop... And even more so in the KOTH (which I have to show you guys when I EVER get a chance). They are more difficult to toss out via the spinning claws and provide a lot of protection on your bot sides. You probably don't even need to put snowplows on the sides of DREAD-ALL.
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For the undestructive bot maybe put a flipper instead of the razors?
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Tank treads = slow. Slow = FAIL especially in the claw top when bots don't face each other at the start.
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Or you could do what I sometimes do to cheat on the Tabletop. Set the bot heading the wrong way and it will be facing the center. Too bad I didn't realize that before I sent my bots and used my change.
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Ha! I actually made that too !
But I think Giga won't allow it. Too easy
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the AI would mess up i think.
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Tank treads = slow. Slow = FAIL especially in the claw top when bots don't face each other at the start.
Thats the EXACT reason why I changed to HR-H.
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I have yet another new bot in DSL, and it will replace XLR8 83ST in WRL(If Wham would let me.) Another juggler, this one uses IfiCon's weapons, but its a new beast in its own right. Presenting, Crashman.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62006screenshot_439.JPG)
This bot can get under anything. And for the gut shot:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4494screenshot_440.JPG)
Yes, I know that there is leftover weight. And just for the heck of it, battle shots.
Vs GarmazeIII
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4929screenshot_446.JPG)
And Shebeast
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18484screenshot_445.JPG)
Like it?
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Those are the most elaborate wedges I have ever seen. Do you use them as flippers? You should try to use the rest of the weight on armor and such. It looks quite destructive, I am just a little intrigued about how far apart those spinners are. I have never seen them that far apart.
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Good to see someone that builds jugglers and understands snapper wedges.
Still, this is just a wannabe.
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Those are the most elaborate wedges I have ever seen. Do you use them as flippers? You should try to use the rest of the weight on armor and such. It looks quite destructive, I am just a little intrigued about how far apart those spinners are. I have never seen them that far apart.
No, the snappers are there to self-right, something Ificon, Hazcon, or NWB can't do.(Mine does it rather poorly, but can do it.) That pic is old, I canged it to 3mm tite. And they have to be far apart, or they form a lip that prevents other bots from getting to the weapons. To Naryar, yes, its a wannabe. I don't care, honestly.
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oh, right, then i'm giving my opinions on that...
-If you go under a wide bot, it's fine. But if you go under a thin bot, your spinners will be less efficient. If you go under Smashbox 2 head on with this bot (good luck doing that), only one of your spinners will do damage, the other will spin freely, or even more SM2 will lodge between your two spinners and no damage at all. When you juggle, your hands are relatively close to each other, right ?
-With a wide juggler, either the motors and weapon are external -more vulnerable-, either the bot is wide- more chassis weight. Or it is overlapped like NW.
-The DSL bar for defense between the spinners is pretty much useless because no bot will hit there. They will hit the spinners first- and if both of the spinners are KO, that bar won't help you.
-This would need more defense.
-Wedges could be simpler. If you just stick with snappers and a simple sheet on them, you'll have deadly (and lighter) ones.
-This is one of my favourite drive trains, but IMO jugglers need to be even faster.
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I have no idea if this as been done be for, but here is a shell spin 175 kigs. And a "scrap" inspired name.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/49926screenshot_481.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/9571screenshot_482.JPG)
And vs True love:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/19379screenshot_480.JPG)
I have no idea if its the first BW shell spinner, so if any one knows or has, please reply.
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Cool concept, but it could be done better.
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Is there something like 70kg on that poor piglet? (= Thumper effect)
...Oh, i know the fool before me put something like 105kg on a piglet, but...
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Many nice bots over here.
why not sharing them in the GMT AI pack ?
https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1139
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@R0B0SH4RK&Naryar: Yes, it sucks, but its a new idea, with a bit of work, I could turn it into something awesome.
@philetbabe: I was thinking about that, so I built a bot that might be good for the pack. Not to bore you all, I will just go to the battle shots.
CE:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8535screenshot_488.JPG)
GTV:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68302screenshot_484.JPG)
ICM:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/92950screenshot_487.JPG)
Shebeast
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14728screenshot_499.JPG)
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Looks pretty decent (excepted the paintjob). Insides please ?
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Well its supposed to look like Bio Quad, and I guess it includes the same paintjob. Good bot.
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Fine, here you go (Those who are sensitive to to many batts may want to look away):
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/45336screenshot_504.JPG)
5mm tite.
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Theorically that bot would need something like 170 amps and i see 100-120. Don't underpower that much a bot using bursts. You can do that on spin motor-only bots, but not on bursts.
Good bot, that said.
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Bio-Quad!
hahahahah. except bio-quad fires up-wards... except for bio-quad 2... WHICH IS ALREADY BUILT!
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Name it: Bio-Quad DSL or something like that.
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Renamed, now its Flashman.
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Play Megaman much? I think you should downgrade to 3MM titanium and then switch some of those ant batts for battlepacks. It will be more weight efficient too.
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i prefer the new megamans personally. BN6 is my favorite.
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I do. The image is now obsolete. Some more batts were added.
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Condor is right.
Anyways if you added some battlepacks (or just swapped some of the ant batts with battlepacks), it will be a really good bot and it will be one of the best i've seen for my pack so far.
...I've not seen a lot from you guys excepted Hazmat and Phil that gave me four or five teams.
I must remind you once again to send me your teams... or then that pack will never be released.
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A new LW for you all. Its my only decent LW, but its still needs hurk.
Gyroman
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/90066screenshot_42.JPG)
5mm tite. Now, I know what your thinking, "But thats way to high for a HS! You should be puting weight into you damn weapon!". Yes, yes, why not? I have already tried that, [Pun] It dont work[/Pun]. It can beat almost all LWs. The only one it can't beat is HammerHead. And for some battle shots:
(Please ignore the name, its a beta name.)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/89231screenshot_13.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53932screenshot_17.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/47790screenshot_19.JPG)
So, like it?
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Looks good, although unstable. I could think that it would flip alot when taking a hit from a rammer.
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I higlhy doubt that a weapon with that few hitpoints and that average power can win against 360 Arc Pounder.
Plus you could manage empty space better.
And yes, this would be mauled by any good rammer.
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Raveing M.A.D. was mauling me, before I got a lucky hit at his extenders. The only reason the match lasted so long was that he came mostly from behind me.
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Brand new, Forkie H-type.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/29965screenshot_57.JPG)
Guts:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86782screenshot_58.JPG)
Bit'o'space left, I have no clue what to use 3 kigs for. Battle shots:
CE
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31537screenshot_54.JPG)
EyeStaber
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/47888screenshot_55.JPG)
And BS
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/82719screenshot_59.JPG)
3mm tite, and NPC fasts. I was going to make this my ELBITE entry, but I ran out of time.:cry:
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The BBEANS Enfilad3 is 3 times better than that.
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I never said it was.
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The double-wedge looks good. Obviously very wedgy. Nice bot.
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Looks good, but shrink the chassis so it is not so long, that will give you weight to possibly increase weapon motor power, or something along those lines.
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Without mentioning the worthlessness of these wheels...
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Bots for Gumba,
Lw: Gryoman2
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/20475screenshot_512.JPG)
This bot started as a shell spinner, but I changed it to a Bar spinner. Kinda slow to get up to speed, but packs a mighty punch if it does. Duelmag under the bar. 1mm plastic.
Hw: Quickman
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50628screenshot_513.JPG)
This bot mainly for the heck of it. As the name suggests, it ultra fast. I say for fun, because of the fact that it can use any ramp to get it OTHA. I don't intend it to win, just for a fun fight. 3mm plastic.
Battle shots for Gyroman.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/44926screenshot_516.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/42551screenshot_517.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60695screenshot_518.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/64699screenshot_520.JPG)
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Gyroman2 looks a wee bit unstable, laddie.
About your HW, it looks a lot like my Electric HW in my showcase.
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Gyroman2: Highly, but it can self right.
Quickman: Forgot about that one. Sorry.
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Quickman is pretty much decent and might annoy highly my SnS Cataclysm because very fast.
Gyroman 2 has absolutely no defenses. As Reier said, that thing is unstable, has a high center of gravity, plus a high weapon. Any good blow would make that fly, and leave the chassis for an exposure. And 1mm plastic...
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Make Gyroman2 shorter and reduce weight for 3mm plastic, got it.
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Gyroman3
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/26675screenshot_530.JPG)
Deadlier than the old one, its faster, more stable, and more durable(3mm plastic).
Battle shots:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/21573screenshot_529.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/92715screenshot_531.JPG)
Also, unless I can get help with AIing, I wont be able to enter. Anyone who can help, PLEASE!
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Gyroman3
Also, unless I can get help with AIing, I wont be able to enter. Anyone who can help, PLEASE!
There have been many discussion about AIing :
the good thread to ask question :
https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1103
other topics on this subject :
https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1078
https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1160
https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1098
see also RA2 wiki.
BTW, your binding entry should look like :
list.append(("Gyroman3","Spinner",{'range':99,'radius':1,'topspeed':100,'weapons':(1,2,3)}))
don't knowmuch if you had a nose parameter to set.
So try first.
If you really do not succed ->ask more question
and at last, but really at last, send me the bot
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CUDA can AI your bots if you are clueless about it.
Phil, won't you add turnspeed and throttle ?
Otherwise Gyroman3 is a nice bot.
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Phil, won't you add turnspeed and throttle ?
default valure (defined in _iniy_.py) are :
self.top_speed = 4.0
self.max_throttle = 100
self.max_turn_speed = 2.5
self.max_turn = 60
which are OK most of the time. Only a fine tuning should brings new definition.
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Thanks Phill.
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A remake of Flashman, and it owns. Almost no other bot can get under it (Excluding CS and my Crashman) Now for some battle shots.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60661screenshot_543.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28862screenshot_544.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/93049screenshot_545.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70811screenshot_546.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/38163screenshot_547.JPG)
Insides are almost the same, I only changed some antbatts to battlepaks.
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You want to see if it's really good?
AI the bot (if it isn't done yet) and make it fight against the RAW bots plus the BBEANS champions.
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Got it.
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If you really want to test the wedges, try it against FarCry ;)
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Want me to face worthy bots? Then I give you that!
obZen
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53730screenshot_549.JPG)
Ificon
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31307screenshot_550.JPG)
MDIII
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/786screenshot_551.JPG)
Steelmeatball
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/83480screenshot_552.JPG)
Far Cry
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60981screenshot_553.JPG)
In the matches vs Meaty and Far Cry, the result was a one hit KO.
EDIT: In all matches, Flash was AIed.
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^^Kill just got pwned.
Well, popups absolutely kick ass, and this is a really good one...
...For basic wedges.
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Can it beat all of the bots? Also, can you take a pic of it vs. Thor 3 (just to see how fast Thor loses, or wins)
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He was talking about worthy bots, not Thor 3!
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So! I still want to see.
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Actually in retrospect, MD3 wasn't very good IMO. It just got lucky.
Still, good bot you've got there, R1885.
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obZen's wedges are hardly elite level.
I do like that bot, however.
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@Sombody: I don't have a pic ready(My comp is down.), but I did give Thor 3 a try. Of all the bots I faced, Thor lasted the longest and managed to rip off some of Flash's spikes.
@All: It can beat most bots from RAW. Only one gives it any real problems, but you should know who that is.
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Is Thor 3 the problem one?
Anyways, HA! See Naryar. Thor is good (or just luckily designed) Damn its good to be back.
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Sorry, but no, but Thor did come close. In fact, two gave it major problems, to the point that Flash can't beat them. Hint, the use Duel Prems. The flower from heck also gives it trouble.
Now for a team that I will use for Naryar's AI pack. Keep in mind that they are still in the beta stage.
Team: Exile
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50812screenshot_571.JPG)
I will let you guess what they do.:smiley:
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Flower From Hell = Daisy Might
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LW - Vengeance: Hmm. Maybe the asymmetrical spinner would throw your opponent towards one side, reducing the wedge's effectiveness.
MW- Call of exile: Not bad. Is the small wedge is really that good for wedginess? (because it's a bigger target, heavier and weaker than a metal sheet)
Plus, the titanium half plate is really weak for the weight.
HW - TFOE :Well, not bad. Middle spinner won't do much damage when the two others will grind on the other bot. Maybe making that invertible rather than a srimech.
AW- Birth of Exile: HUGE chassis for an ant.
BW- Growth of Exile: Hammer looks really short.
HW- Exile: Maybe the best - still, a good HS can make serious damage to that.
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All of them look really pretty good besides call of exile. I have not seen it in action so i would not know but normally the small wedge's are not that effective but none the less an easy fix. Overall nice bots.
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I will showcase my brand new bot, Gyroman4!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35433screenshot_579.JPG)
It has a faster spin-up time, and all round better bot. It can run upside down now! The only flaw is that the new weapon can't reach form behind it. I will post some battle shots tomorrow. Night all.
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I will showcase my brand new bot, Gyroman4!
look deadly, but is it realistic ?
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Why that chassis is so big?
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@Phill: Yup. The weapon spins above the motors and battle packs.
@Naryar: The chassis is large becuse I had it use T-64s before I changed to Astro Flights.
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normally the small wedge's are not that effective
Small wedges have magic effectiveness in stock RA2 and it's no different in DSL. You just have more options in DSL.
Every bot I have with small wedges gets under all other skirt wedges, every time.
Granted, I don't have all that many DSL bots with small wedges (skirts have so many other advantages, it's hard to pass them up) but still.
I can't say much for Gyroman 4's looks. Well, actually I can. While it's technically realistic just going by the rules, it looks ugly with that Perm belt floating out in space. But it looks effective.
But is it more effective than the old Gyroman? The Perm 80 is actually a step down from double Magmotors. I'm not sure invertibility is a fair trade for power and rear protection, especially when the old version could self right.
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I'm pretty sure Gyroman3 was better than this. Faster, best motor, best motor protection, best chassis management, not overpowered, what else ?
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I updated team Exile
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22996screenshot_585.JPG)
Coming of Exile(Replaced Vengeance from Exile.): Powerful SnS, NPC fast. 1mm tite.
Call of Exile: It looks the same, buts its changed a heck of a lot. Same armor that Coming of Exile uses.
The True face of Exile: RPB clone. Needs better armor.
Birth of Exile: A rare 4wd ant. Copals. 1mm plastic.
Growth of Exile: Unstoppable 60 kilo hammer. Same armor as Coming and Call.
Exile: To be honest, I hated the old Exile. It was un-realistic, poor drive, and under weight. (Around 600 killos!) This one is, well, I will let you guess it. 5mm tite.
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Can you post a bigger pic of Exile? It looks really cool, but I'm not sure how effective it is.
I almost named my ELBITE bot Exile, but then I decided to call is Arcarsenal instead.
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51806screenshot_594.JPG)
That's as much as I'm going to show you. I wont tell you until the pack is released.
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It looks like a HW Backslash. In all honesty, beating El Diablo isn't that impressive...
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beating El Diablo isn't that impressive...
I was going to say the same thing. ED is 500 kg and has Stock drive and batteries.
4WD ant = weight wasted. You're most of the time better with powerful 2WDs than average 4WDs (example: NPC fasts with Techno Destructo wheels is lighter, more powerful and less draining than 4WD Magmotor drive with Hypno wheels). So I'd recommend Astroflights with hypno wheels. And yeah you can make it invertible.
Coming of Exile and Call of Exile both look nice.
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It was just a prof on concept. It was not to make it look impressive.
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More of my bots.
R.E.D.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73728R.E.D..JPG)
Four MAG Snappers, Four NPC Fasts, 3mmtite, one orange and two battlepacks
B.L.U.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/87780B.L.U..JPG)
Meh.
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Weight?
Armor?
Insides?
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Red's side armor is worthless if you have nearly no armor at the front, plus my experience is that these 30kg ramplates suck.
Blue looks decent though. Insides?
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Blu could benefit from Whyachi tribars, and try to get rid of those plastic extenders. Huge weak link.
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Red's side armor is worthless if you have nearly no armor at the front,
Not quite true. Inward spinning HS and Side hammers?
plus my experience is that these 30kg ramplates suck.
Yes, YOUR experiance. If it doen't work one way, try another. Battle axes are used as armour, Blades are used to protect extenders....
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name = Ram Plate
preview = ramplate_preview.bmp
dir = ram_plate
model = armor1.gmf
type = extras
base = Component
styles = Default
description = Generic metal plate, useful for a ram, shield, or other device. Hitpoints are 12000.
styles = Ramplate, ramplate2.txt, Extra Wide
damagesounds = sounds\ramplate_hit.wav
hitpoints = 2400
fracture = 40
material = metal(.4)
attachsound = sounds\cmp_generic.wav
standard = 1
mass = 30
And now, get out.
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Fracture of 40!! No wonder those suck so much. Why in the world does it have 2400 HP when it should have 12000 like it says?
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Well that is the .txt, and 40 looks unrealistic.
My battle experience is that these ramplates have less than 6000 HP's, and a fracture inferior to 400.
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say, aint that the normal ramplate?
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I was about to say the same thing.
Besides, the front has to be open like that to be realistic, not that pop-ups are.
B.L.U. needs the plastic extenders, the hammers pass throgh the snow-plows to much to be real. I need the clasic Tri-bars too, all others are too big, or too small.
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This one is 30kg, plus the description is the long ramplate one.
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Isn't that the small one?
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Because the small/normal/black ramplate weighs 30kg maybe...
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No, I mean When you tyhink about how they drop down, Don't they have to have tha same stats? Perhaps Darkrat Or Lu-Tze forgot...
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I always wondered why the long ramplates seemed to break so easily. Now I know.
That is the 30kg ram plate that Naryar posted, and it does have 2400 HP when it should have 12000.
Expect this to be fixed in DSL3. Along with the 35-kg snow plows which have some ridiculous fracture that's impossible to break.
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Doing some testing lately for BBEANS6 bots, but I found one that its final will be in:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35381D15C.JPG)
I found that Roin discs work great, so expect to see some thing like this.
Its still in beta stage, the weapon motor needs to be protected more, and it needs a re-worked body.
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Looks nice, though I think a wedge would help it a lot.
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Although it looks nice, i can see that getting destroyed by the first HS you'll meet.
What's the drive?
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I think its fair to say that Crash needed an upgrade. Badly.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/27587Crash!.JPG)
Speed was the main thing to change, it simply was not fast. This now has four NPC fast drive. E-Teks are the weapon motors, servo bursted to boot. Armor is still 1mm tite. Expect to see it in Naryar's AI pack, with an updated Flash too.
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I frankly like the other one better. It looks alot better, and it doesn't have these freaky exposed weapon motors, along with a protected wedge, and aprotected tribar.
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Honestly that is a downgrade.
And Somebody's right - would like to see a juggler from you too that said...
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Maybe I'll try one sometime.
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Hey Somebody, ZazZawang was my first juggler and it turned out pretty good. Just go with the flow and see what happens.
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*Exits website and goes off to build first juggler*
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Rotate the motors 45 degrees, get decent face spinner. Then replace plow with spike rack.
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Another AI team for Nar's AI pack, and entry's too Wham's new torny.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/47458screenshot_687.JPG)
You can guess what they do.
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Just wait till inf sees this...
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Uh oh....
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RIBBS IF YOU DONT GET RID OF THAT THEME IN .0002348368732 SECONDS I WILL RIP YOUR ARMS OUT OF THEIR SOCKETS.
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...And they're DSL popups too!
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...And they're pretty average too !
EDIT: Ribbs?
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R = R
1 = I
8 = B
8 = B
5 = S
It's leetspeak.
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Inf uses leet ?
And it's even inverted leet...
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You used his bot names too Ribbs...
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You used his bot names too Ribbs...
Most generic robotic names ever. I don't blame R1885.
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I've seen much more generic for bot names.
Also Ribbs , a 30kg titanium sheet is better than 2 15kg halfsheets because it's stronger.
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All in all they seem to be decent popups, probably better then I could build. I am not a big popup kinda guy.....
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And...RA2 FW..?
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I got the idea from a PM. It asked why did I pick R1885 as my user name. My reson was that its part of my first user name, 1885, for a OTA online game. The reason I added the "R" was due to the game Dawn of War. I was trying to use 1885, but I needed at least one leter in the name. At the time I was thinking of the PS2, the I thoght of the sholder buttons. Theres R1, L1, R2, and L2. So what the heck, why not use R1885? The name then, just stuck. Its my GameTrailers user name. So you know my tail, now I want to hear yours.
At the time I made my name, I had no clue what 1337 was.
RIBBS IF YOU DONT GET RID OF THAT THEME IN .0002348368732 SECONDS I WILL RIP YOUR ARMS OUT OF THEIR SOCKETS.
You take things way too far Inf.
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And what would you think (and do) if someone showcased, say, three bots called Crashman, Flashman and Gyroman ?
EDIT: @Reier: FW= featherweight = gay-named class from RW that Wham put from 175 to 200 kg.
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I think FW's should be 90 KG.
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Featherweight IRL is 30 lbs I think. There is also a fairyweight that is the lightest class, but I can't remember what the weight limit is.
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I thought the lightest was fleaweight..... but I don't know....
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I think Fairyweight = Fleaweight, but I'm not sure.
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Most generic robotic names ever. I don't blame R1885.
Really? Before my usage I dont think they have ever been used.
And Ribbs, I will glaze you with honey barbeque sauce and put you in my sack lunch if you do not fix this. (Don't pay attention to bad joke, I'm serious).
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Really? Before my usage I dont think they have ever been used.
And Ribbs, I will glaze you with honey barbeque sauce and put you in my sack lunch if you do not fix this. (Don't pay attention to bad joke, I'm serious).
Alright, fine. I will change the theme if it will make you happy.
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Really? Before my usage I dont think they have ever been used.
And Ribbs, I will glaze you with honey barbeque sauce and put you in my sack lunch if you do not fix this. (Don't pay attention to bad joke, I'm serious).
Well, maybe I've used them so much they feel so common. Or just classing them as "generic robotic names" is wrong. (Though they're still rather generic)
Anyway, Beta is a real robot. DSL replica, even.
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Really? Before my usage I dont think they have ever been used.
And Ribbs, I will glaze you with honey barbeque sauce and put you in my sack lunch if you do not fix this. (Don't pay attention to bad joke, I'm serious).
one of my old robots (never showcased it) had alpha in it's name :) it was an average lw stock rammer.
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one of my old robots (never showcased it) had alpha in it's name :) it was an average lw stock rammer.
That reminds me. I think I had a bot called Alpha Strike. Crappy, possibly for a crappy mod pack I was making.
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My 4th bot was named Omega. I like greek letter names.
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Well this sucks, my version of DSL SD on me.
Most likely going to lose some bots.
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Can't you save the .bot files from your Teams folder ?
Just open them with notepad, there's the bot's name at the beginning.
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I must now post a new (Yet, experimental) bot. We all know how fragile saws are? I built a bot that fixed this isuse, in an unorthodox way.
Maverick Hunter:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14699MH.JPG)
Stats:
Two NPC fast motors with Hypno wheels.
5mm Steel
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Interesting design.
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ok, Sage... where's your sig... Naryar's is ok, too, i guess. has the same link...
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yo
(R1885... looks a bit like my saw bot, especially how you have the armor set up)
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Good point. Any and all resemblance is purely accidental.
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I hope it stays at experimental level because it would suck at fighting.
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That's a HW, right?
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Yes.
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DP, yet for good reason.
I can't decide on my TTC bot, out of the ones I have.
First is a juggler, with a good wedge:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/873022.JPG)
Next is a pop-up:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/688321.JPG)
And another:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/763623.JPG)
And last one is a hammer:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/703864.JPG)
Any ideas on who too enter?
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I like the hammer. You rarely get them in tournaments.
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Almost exactly what I was going to say....
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Thanks for being completely original.
Also hammers suck with a wedge like this and exposed plastic extenders.
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@Naryar: I'm not good with hammers. Simple as that.
New bots you all, redos of Flash and Crash.
Flash:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/69342Flash.JPG)
Crash:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94987Crash.JPG)
Comments?
P.S. Crash has TW motors powering his weapon, both have burst wedges, and both have 4wd.
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those the ones going into MXC?
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If you mean your torny, then yes.
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niiiiiiiiice. good looking bots.
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I have a case to make. I am casing that snapper wedges are not the most superior wedges, and that there are many well built metal hinges and even axle wedges that can consistently beat snapper wedges. From my experiences, I am just saying snapper wedges may not be all they cracked up to be.
Anyway R1885, those look like very good and effective robots.
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GO ORIGINAL!|
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^^R1885 is always very original.
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To be honest, the originality of Crash can be questioned.
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Oh "ha, ha" Inf.
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More DP.
What do you get when you mix the NCR glitch with the Trinity glitch?
The world ends with You:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/20781TWEWY.JPG)
:evilsmile:
This bot is EVIL.
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"NCR glitch"??
That's just a trinity SnS flyer like Crimson Fury Extreme...
And underpowered as heck.
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(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3429/glitchk.jpg)
In a normal robot, the motors spin the wheels, with this setup, the motors spin the chassis while the wheels just sit there. It gets some pretty good speed, and beyond the whole breaking the laws of physics, with some creative imagining giving consideration to the limitations of RA2, a completely buildable robot.
I named the glitch that because he found it.
The upper part of the bot is resting on a axle.
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You all remember S.A.W.? Hes back in DSL.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/21763YES.JPG)
3mm Titanium. NPC drive. Bursted wedge.
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Another TTC bot, and posable BBEANS6 bot.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/38952SS.JPG)
BSG burst motor, 3mm tit.
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I think I have a chance at CC. (http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/ra2-dsl-tc-bot-show-off/320102)
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Can you say "unrealistic"?
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Not unrealistic if there is nothing in the path of the blade, chaining weapon motors was allowed, right?
Very destructive looking, but are you sure the AI will be able to back up and make the wedges go the way you did in the vid?
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really interesting design, likely to send a few out of the arena.
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The blade would divide the whole chassis in half, making the bot fall apart, therefore it's unrealistic.
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hunh I never thought of that, maybe R1885 should post up a pic with internals I we can get a proper look
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also, you cant stack two motors in real life because real motors require wires that are not just green lights. the spinning motor would spin the wires as well.
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Stability fail.
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Nice Punt 2.0 clone.
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5221WNM.PNG)
1mm Titanium. Four Ants. NPC Fasts.
Yes its for RIP.
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Is trinity glitch allowed in the tourney?
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Is trinity glitch allowed in the tourney?
It's not realistic, so no.
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Could be my mistake, but I thought that's what the pistons are for.
If it isn't for glitching, then it isn't very good since it only got 400 hp.
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/79765Crash.PNG)
Since Nar has shown his new Juggler, I decided to show mine.
5mm tite, weapon motors are Perm080s, and NPC fast drive.
Also, it predates the new InfCon by a week.
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Doesn't looks bad. Insides ?
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Can we have weights and stats?
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There's not a whole lot to see, just a bunch of ants, two perms, two NPC fasts, and two Mag snappers. It weighs 799.99 kilos, and has 5mm titanium. Everything else is visible.
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341/2 days latter, R1 showcased some of his old bots!
Yes, its me. I have been like a observer for too long, here I am once more, hopefully to be more active. To start, I would like to post some of my old bots, ones that have been taking their damn time to show up, mostly bots that never made it into combat.
First is one of my old favorites, RimiR:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/36566rimir.PNG)
I built it for BBEANS six well in advance, I built this bot around the time shortly before BBEANS5 started. It was very out dated when BBEANS6 came around, so it was placed on the back burner for MLP-Mk2, but I really wished I entered RimiR instead. Its so old I forgot what its armor was, but I think it was a form of plastic.
Now for a bot some of you might of seen, and one you should not have
Flash Back, one and two:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/71848Flsashnback.PNG)
Built for Robot Rampage, the Flash Back on the left remains one of my oldest if not THE oldest bot I still have. It made it into my AI pack(bet you forgot that old thing) for those curious. It was made to improve on HazCon, with a shorter body and wider stance and latter on a door hinge wedge. To this day I still want to enter it at some point.
Its partner has better armor and wedges, but lacks Mk1 sleek look, so I'm going to leave it for now.
Lastly, my EBLEAT team, Mega Drive, CD, and 32X
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/37481Megadrivebros.PNG)
Mega Dive is a old bot, slightly younger than Flash Back. It had something very new at the time it was built, snapper wedges(for DSL at least) but was never showcased.
CD was the only bot built for the tournament, though just as filler, with slow drive. I never even tested this bot once.
32X was intended as Launch Platform Mk2, built with the same standards as was MLPmk2 was built for. It did see some screen time, though not much.
That's all I'm willing to show for now. I'm still making bots and I'm still on the forums every now and again. I haven't left for good.
*Vanishes into smoke*
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Snapper wedges in DSL :eek:
You bastard, you were being creative! I like the chassis shape and look of megadrive, care to post a download link?
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Sorry, those bots are going to stay with me, for the time being.
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DSL snapper wedges? Never tried that, what are they like?
Anyway, I like the look of 32x, i'm sure you could probably shed a bit of weight to improve the drive if needs be though.
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I love the first one for looks :mrgreen:.
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where ya been maan?
and people, snapper wedges have been used for a while in dsl.
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Once was once dead, has been risen from its grave.
This is a little experiment I was doing, GTI on the left and Jetta to the right are the lab mice:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25558GTI.PNG) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/65924JETTA.PNG)
Both have 3mm Titanium, Jetta is a popup with eight razor tips, and gut ripper protection. They seem to be rather ordinary and clonesih, right?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40848GTIinner.PNG) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18399jettainner.PNG)
Nope, not in the slightest. They both have powered steering units.
"But wait Ribbs," you say "What on earth would possess you to build such awful bots??!?!?!?!"
That's the thing, they're not. They may not look like it, but they're more effective than they look. Reasons?
Notice when two bots try to turn on each other and do donuts together? These bots don't do that, their turning radius is much larger than other bots, letting them close the gap more quickly.
They have better aim when during the initial rush. Most bots can only go straight ahead during the start of a match, they can't change their course under acceleration with out losing speed, but these bots can turn change their course at full power and still hit true.
They're better suited for "ring" arenas like the BBEANS4 and 5 arenas. These types of arenas don't work well with bots with tank steering, differential steering lets these bots go around the arena with their weapons always facing forward with out loseing speed.
I know somebody (Anyone, not the user) is going to poke holes in these bots, but you know what? I think the powered steering units need more love. Of course these bots are not that good, they're new concepts. With some refinement, I think powered steering units can be competitive.
And that's about it for now, I might post a SkyHigh sequel if I get the chance.
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I've actually been thinking about using PSU for a while... they're just so damn heavy.
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Why so much empty space...
Oh, and I do see what you are trying to accomplish with PSU's but I don't know if it is better than a standard, 4WD NPCF popup.
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If it's one ant per spin motor, does a PSU need only 1 ant?
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If it's one ant per spin motor, does a PSU need only 1 ant?
IIRC it draws 14 power, or something similar. So get 2 ants by PSU for safety and enough battery power to last.
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nice concept.
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I like the idea of it being effective in the BBEANS arena.
It is too bad that the PSU is so overweight. It makes it a tough call if you cant use that weight toward defense/weapons.
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Oh, and I do see what you are trying to accomplish with PSU's but I don't know if it is better than a standard, 4WD NPCF popup.
IMO popups and other gutrippers are the only thing PSUs will be good in.
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rammers
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rammers
But the weight lost via the PSU will make them less able to deal with regular rammers.
EDIT: Unless by using the PSU they get two motors for the price of one. Hmmm...
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PSU is painfully slow, though. I'm not sure a PSU Rammer would work, maybe a spinner might be better.
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The weight of PSU I can deal with, it's the size of that thing that throws me off.
Then again, chassis with 4 ants and a micro control seem too big.
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It's a good idea for HW but not other weights.
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Remember when I used to post here?
Remember when I got help for my crazy machines?
Remember when I showed off bots like this:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/87440themachina.PNG)
Or this:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14195thrust.PNG)
And even this:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/88941Skydie.PNG)
I miss those days.
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remember the time when you entered total annihilation with one of those?
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They're a bit messy, but still cool.
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The tracked popup is lulzy but probably too slow to be good at its role.
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I like the chained VS. Pretty sweet.
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So I made this thing:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/21065Spinnything.PNG)
Called it KOZ-MO.
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ribbs ? posting a dsl bot ?
it's more likely than you think
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Looks like a very good start, but could be more stable and more realistic.