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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #60 on: March 20, 2018, 08:27:29 PM »
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Fitz:  A front hinge flipper with Storm bursts and two NPC fasts. Inspired by some of TheRoboteer's old robots. Does pretty well, but since its not too wide, it turns pretty bad. Mostly steel though, so that lets it at least survive well.

Thundercracker is a 4 small typhoon VS. Never done before, right??? Gets stranded on its front a lot, which sucks, but I couldn't find a way to prevent that other than putting a long and ugly protrusion on the front. NPC fasts for the back wheels, Astroflights for the front. Inspired by BBQ from KoB and Brutus from Battlebots.
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2018, 07:18:42 AM »
The flipper looks a bit too tall for a front hinger and the wedge on the drum looks like its floating without any supports on the inside. They both look pretty neat though and I'm sure will be great with a few improvements

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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2018, 07:29:18 PM »

Followed up on Olister's advice and gave Fitz a full rebuild. Same specs, but wider and shorter

Huge Jackman, NPC Fasts, ETEK bar. Share my pain
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2018, 07:48:02 PM »
Gonna do some advice not only for these bots but the vert before.

Fitz - Lets start with the front hinge flipper shall we, firstly. I rather like it. However, the wedge doesn't need those pink wedgelets imo, they look off and provide no real advantage. I'd use the weight to add side panels to protect that exposed chassis. Secondly the spike strip at the top... idk what it does but it kinda looks outta place, unless you need it I'd recommend removing it and putting the weight into the aforementioned side panels (im guessing it's for tipping the bot back on it's wheels from the rear, but you don't need that much weight dedicated to that, just poke 2 wedgelets out the back and maybe move the wheels so they're poking out if they aren't already. Other than that, super clean now, looks great.

Huge Jackman - Beautiful name and build. My only complaints are A: The side spikes, are they needed, as I think you could create the same self righting effect with a Steel round 72/48cm extender and maybe a spike on the end for less weight. B: Are they medium beaters? I'd actually just recommend using large typhoon teeth, more effective, fraction of the weight. C: How durable are the back supports cuz once they're gonna the bot kinda spasms in place hopefully they are.

Thundercracker 4 - Great start I feel, good and cool concept to build and you've done well with it. But I'd recommend switching to 2wd, the astroflights don't really add any kinda power at the HW level and just take up battery life and general weight that could be put elsewhere. I'd actually go from 8 teeth down to 4, it just looks better and then use the weight to construct some wheelguards, better frontal and under armour. And the wedgelets poking through the front I feel look kinda awkward but Im guessing they pin bots in, allowing for the teeth to deal damage better. These are most likely whats preventing you from self righting on your front as they seem most likely to prevent the disc from hitting the floor and flipping you back over.

I really like all the bots you've shown off recently. Super cool, keep it up.
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2018, 01:35:57 AM »
Ok hoppin covered all the important points so let me say that I would change some things astetic wise. Change the skin to something a lot more smoother,you can do this by copying the extender or armour file to texture library to use with bots to make them look more cleaner. Then make the guys face on the top of the bot and just make it one big face.

I would recommend also trying to make the arms a little cooler looking e.g make it thicker, make a cool pattern all that stuff
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2018, 04:01:16 AM »
The only problem that i see with TC4 is the wedglet at front, other than that, looks cool
Ooh and reason it tips. It has high center of gravity, and most of the weight of the bot is the disc itself
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2018, 07:13:18 AM »
Huge Jackman is a funny name and a cool bot, I like the improvements to Fitz too

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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2018, 05:19:11 PM »


Here's the SHW version of Huge Jackman for Orc's Wars. Incorrect Ferris Wheel, with two E-Teks now. It also hits the max bot size limit now, so that's a thing
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #68 on: March 24, 2018, 12:53:37 PM »
Here's a bot dump:


Amano- A basic MW overhead spinner. Sort of in the same family in Babaulti, and the name's supposed to reflect that. Alu 5, TMWR 2 for the weapon


Mongol- Inspired by Hoppin saying that Ming 3 MWs must be terrified. So here's a semi Ming 3 clone! Probably not going to see combat anytime soon, it struggles with self righting, unfortunately. Alu 5 IIRC.


Nightfever- It's a blatant Disco Inferno clone. Ti 5
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #69 on: March 24, 2018, 07:13:52 PM »
Here's a bot dump:

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Amano- A basic MW overhead spinner. Sort of in the same family in Babaulti, and the name's supposed to reflect that. Alu 5, TMWR 2 for the weapon

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Mongol- Inspired by Hoppin saying that Ming 3 MWs must be terrified. So here's a semi Ming 3 clone! Probably not going to see combat anytime soon, it struggles with self righting, unfortunately. Alu 5 IIRC.

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Nightfever- It's a blatant Disco Inferno clone. Ti 5

They're all ok

Personally with the Disco Inferno bot, I'd make the disc and the body as flat as you can.

Also can someone make a MW WBC clone so we could fight them on the challenge board?
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #70 on: March 24, 2018, 08:59:35 PM »
Also can someone make a MW WBC clone so we could fight them on the challenge board?

This would actually be the best thing. I think we’d be screwed, unless your HD can self right lol
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #71 on: March 24, 2018, 09:03:48 PM »
Also can someone make a MW WBC clone so we could fight them on the challenge board?

This would actually be the best thing. I think we’d be screwed, unless your HD can self right lol

Nah it can't, but it's all in good fun
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2018, 02:13:35 PM »


Heres a MW robutt. Project Mogul! Been trying to get a triangle robot going, but it didn't really work. It was originally a flipper, but that looked like ass, so its an overhead spinner now. Was debating entering this instead of Amano into the OW2 MW side event, but even though its better looking than Amano, its so much more unstable. Big ol' thumbs up if you know what the names referencing, too!
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2018, 03:31:45 PM »
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Heres a MW robutt. Project Mogul! Been trying to get a triangle robot going, but it didn't really work. It was originally a flipper, but that looked like ass, so its an overhead spinner now. Was debating entering this instead of Amano into the OW2 MW side event, but even though its better looking than Amano, its so much more unstable. Big ol' thumbs up if you know what the names referencing, too!

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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2018, 04:34:31 PM »


Its 9 lb underweight :(



Also, here's a picture of my OW2 Challenge Belt entry that I forgot I had  :really_makes_you_think:. Halcyon, a 6WD NPC Fast Front Hinge that looks way too much like Guldenflame's Hyperspace. Probably the most violent robot I've made, but its flipper gets stuck through the ground when it tries to self right, which kills the fun.
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #75 on: March 26, 2018, 04:53:21 PM »
its flipper gets stuck through the ground when it tries to self right, which kills the fun.
Hyperspace does the same.  They're more similar than you think.

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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #76 on: March 26, 2018, 05:56:25 PM »
I had a similar issue with a previous PA lifter, I solved it by having extenders poke through so that they hit the ground first. Haven't had an issue since.
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2018, 04:42:54 PM »

Rat Snake (2 flatmotors, 4 large beaters), Big Boa, Sea Snake (Slow Magmotor), Corn Snake (2 flatmotors, Matilda teeth)

Dwarf Adder, Ghost Snake (TW3R2, Large Typhoons), Bush Viper, Garter Snake

Made a bunch of new Pack Snakes. The philosophy with these is to make it so that each member of the cluster has synergy with the other, giving them an advantage in a fight. A lot of clusters don't really do this, but this will hopefully make them a bit competitive! Also brings a level of unpredictability to the guys. Sorry about the choppiness of the pictures, I couldn't find a way to fit them all on an F4 camera angle, so I had to use F3 and crop out most of the arena, leading to some low quality pictures
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2018, 05:06:40 PM »
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Rat Snake (2 flatmotors, 4 large beaters), Big Boa, Sea Snake (Slow Magmotor), Corn Snake (2 flatmotors, Matilda teeth)
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Dwarf Adder, Ghost Snake (TW3R2, Large Typhoons), Bush Viper, Garter Snake

Made a bunch of new Pack Snakes. The philosophy with these is to make it so that each member of the cluster has synergy with the other, giving them an advantage in a fight. A lot of clusters don't really do this, but this will hopefully make them a bit competitive! Sorry about the choppiness of the pictures, I couldn't find a way to fit them all on an F4 camera angle, so I had to use F3 and crop out most of the arena, leading to some low quality pictures

Is Big Boa just a wedge?

Running through all 8 of them. Here we go.

Rat Snake - Pretty standard for a drum spinner so I can't really give much else on it. Maybe vlads instead of Tornado's can give you weight to put else where.
Big Boa - On the assumption it's just a wedge. Just make it super defensive. NPC Fast too.
Sea Snake - Pretty cool for a lifter, maybe give it a wider surface area to lift from or give it some wheel protection, that's really all I can think of.
Corn Snake - I'd actually drop it to 2wd (Maybe TMWR if it isn't) and give it a good wedge and also up the damage on the teeth, maybe use beaters. As a vert I'd focus a lot more into the weapon as that's what's gonna do the damage.

Dwarf Adder/Garter Snake - Pretty much the same bar the paint. Really like them, they seem to be the best outta the rest of the pack. So that's good.
Ghost Snake - It works, but looks rather bland, I'd give it some flair to make it stand out compared to the others. And if the wheels are sticking out maybe have it so it doesn't.
Bush Viper - Pretty cool whilst remaining pretty simple. Im gonna guess it's a perm 80, maybe see if you could fit a perm 132 in, this might require you to drop the drive but it can definitely give you much more damage.
 
I really like the new members of the pack, really enjoy "The Swarm" level of customization you have when going into fights. And you should use action cam if you wanna get 4 bots in the same screenshot at once. Which can be found here: https://gametechmods.com/forums/downloads/?sa=view;down=179

As for the triangular overhead spinner. Flip the motors round. It'll give you a better turn speed and you only need 2 red packs in there. Then you could use the weight for better drive if you can fit it in or just better chassis armour.
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Re: Plerco Sucks at Everything (DSL Edition)
« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2018, 05:32:47 PM »
Big Boa is just a wedge and was the first new pack snake, designed after Queen Lance-A-Frog beat the original pack in Deathmatch. Its designed for Horizontal spinners, which are most of the pack's weakness. All steel front and TWMR drive, but its already pretty close to the maximum weight unforunately. About Corn Snake, I wanted it to be 2wd, but I thought 4wd looked better  :smile:.

I always appreciate your advice Hoppin. Its always really insightful and helpful, so thank you!
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