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Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« on: July 09, 2018, 12:11:59 PM »
I just thought id show first attempt at using the RA2 DSL no very clean but it is pretty simple heavyweight ill probably add color and tweak it a bit before being able to actually use it but i like the idea of a shovel bot with overhead as a lot of spinners out there.
 
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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2018, 12:21:20 PM »
That's pretty good for a newcomer. You got any extra info for it, such as weight. Based on what I can see, you might need more batteries for it, perhaps another red bat and changing the current burst motors to some of the VDMA ones, much better for axes.

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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2018, 12:27:19 PM »
That's pretty good for a newcomer. You got any extra info for it, such as weight. Based on what I can see, you might need more batteries for it, perhaps another red bat and changing the current burst motors to some of the VDMA ones, much better for axes.

currently have it as a heavily armour HW I'm using the 2 mag snapper (fast) for the axes 2 TWM3R (drive) for the S3 Wheels as for batteries have a WP836e and a battlepack. The Shovel itself is static only used to keep spinner from the chassis while pinning for the axes. its has self righted in testing and the spikes allow it to move on its tail in order to aid in the self righting or if on top of another bot.

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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 12:41:45 PM »
That's pretty good for a newcomer. You got any extra info for it, such as weight. Based on what I can see, you might need more batteries for it, perhaps another red bat and changing the current burst motors to some of the VDMA ones, much better for axes.

currently have it as a heavily armour HW I'm using the 2 mag snapper (fast) for the axes 2 TWM3R (drive) for the S3 Wheels as for batteries have a WP836e and a battlepack. The Shovel itself is static only used to keep spinner from the chassis while pinning for the axes. its has self righted in testing and the spikes allow it to move on its tail in order to aid in the self righting or if on top of another bot.

I'd recommend you up the drive to NPCFasts, that's kinda the standard on HWs. With the shovel, try putting it on a hinge, you'd have an easier time getting under stuff, this would better allow you to pin stuff against walls etc. What's the armour on it, you might be able to drop it down to make weight for these adjustments
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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2018, 12:50:17 PM »
That's pretty good for a newcomer. You got any extra info for it, such as weight. Based on what I can see, you might need more batteries for it, perhaps another red bat and changing the current burst motors to some of the VDMA ones, much better for axes.

currently have it as a heavily armour HW I'm using the 2 mag snapper (fast) for the axes 2 TWM3R (drive) for the S3 Wheels as for batteries have a WP836e and a battlepack. The Shovel itself is static only used to keep spinner from the chassis while pinning for the axes. its has self righted in testing and the spikes allow it to move on its tail in order to aid in the self righting or if on top of another bot.

I'd recommend you up the drive to NPCFasts, that's kinda the standard on HWs. With the shovel, try putting it on a hinge, you'd have an easier time getting under stuff, this would better allow you to pin stuff against walls etc. What's the armour on it, you might be able to drop it down to make weight for these adjustments

Armour is 10MM titanium so pleantly of weight to work with i just dropped it down to 5MM and added the VDMA to give that a test run the kickback throws it slightly up but with hit zone being small they should be in shovel to counter that. I have around 100KG to work with before i make any fine tuning so could look at upgraded drive as you recommend and and an extra long battery

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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2018, 12:54:58 PM »
That's pretty good for a newcomer. You got any extra info for it, such as weight. Based on what I can see, you might need more batteries for it, perhaps another red bat and changing the current burst motors to some of the VDMA ones, much better for axes.

currently have it as a heavily armour HW I'm using the 2 mag snapper (fast) for the axes 2 TWM3R (drive) for the S3 Wheels as for batteries have a WP836e and a battlepack. The Shovel itself is static only used to keep spinner from the chassis while pinning for the axes. its has self righted in testing and the spikes allow it to move on its tail in order to aid in the self righting or if on top of another bot.

I'd recommend you up the drive to NPCFasts, that's kinda the standard on HWs. With the shovel, try putting it on a hinge, you'd have an easier time getting under stuff, this would better allow you to pin stuff against walls etc. What's the armour on it, you might be able to drop it down to make weight for these adjustments

Armour is 10MM titanium so pleantly of weight to work with i just dropped it down to 5MM and added the VDMA to give that a test run the kickback throws it slightly up but with hit zone being small they should be in shovel to counter that. I have around 100KG to work with before i make any fine tuning so could look at upgraded drive as you recommend and and an extra long battery

To help with the jumping, adding a tail close to the floor can assist with stability
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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 12:58:44 PM »
That's pretty good for a newcomer. You got any extra info for it, such as weight. Based on what I can see, you might need more batteries for it, perhaps another red bat and changing the current burst motors to some of the VDMA ones, much better for axes.

currently have it as a heavily armour HW I'm using the 2 mag snapper (fast) for the axes 2 TWM3R (drive) for the S3 Wheels as for batteries have a WP836e and a battlepack. The Shovel itself is static only used to keep spinner from the chassis while pinning for the axes. its has self righted in testing and the spikes allow it to move on its tail in order to aid in the self righting or if on top of another bot.

I'd recommend you up the drive to NPCFasts, that's kinda the standard on HWs. With the shovel, try putting it on a hinge, you'd have an easier time getting under stuff, this would better allow you to pin stuff against walls etc. What's the armour on it, you might be able to drop it down to make weight for these adjustments

Armour is 10MM titanium so pleantly of weight to work with i just dropped it down to 5MM and added the VDMA to give that a test run the kickback throws it slightly up but with hit zone being small they should be in shovel to counter that. I have around 100KG to work with before i make any fine tuning so could look at upgraded drive as you recommend and and an extra long battery

To help with the jumping, adding a tail close to the floor can assist with stability

was just thinking of ripping off BETA for that lol keeping it flush to floor but small enough can self right easily still, other then that think just need check battery life with new upgrades and see if i can make room for new drive motors

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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2018, 01:00:52 PM »
That's pretty good for a newcomer. You got any extra info for it, such as weight. Based on what I can see, you might need more batteries for it, perhaps another red bat and changing the current burst motors to some of the VDMA ones, much better for axes.

currently have it as a heavily armour HW I'm using the 2 mag snapper (fast) for the axes 2 TWM3R (drive) for the S3 Wheels as for batteries have a WP836e and a battlepack. The Shovel itself is static only used to keep spinner from the chassis while pinning for the axes. its has self righted in testing and the spikes allow it to move on its tail in order to aid in the self righting or if on top of another bot.

I'd recommend you up the drive to NPCFasts, that's kinda the standard on HWs. With the shovel, try putting it on a hinge, you'd have an easier time getting under stuff, this would better allow you to pin stuff against walls etc. What's the armour on it, you might be able to drop it down to make weight for these adjustments

Armour is 10MM titanium so pleantly of weight to work with i just dropped it down to 5MM and added the VDMA to give that a test run the kickback throws it slightly up but with hit zone being small they should be in shovel to counter that. I have around 100KG to work with before i make any fine tuning so could look at upgraded drive as you recommend and and an extra long battery

To help with the jumping, adding a tail close to the floor can assist with stability

was just thinking of ripping off BETA for that lol keeping it flush to floor but small enough can self right easily still, other then that think just need check battery life with new upgrades and see if i can make room for new drive motors

Sweet, looking forward to it
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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2018, 01:03:12 PM »
Not bad for a newbie, and welcome to the forum! :claping

First major decision you want to make in this game is whether or not you want to build DSL-S or DSL-IRL, with the difference being that DSL-S is focused solely on making competitive bots, while DSL-IRL is more focused on look than competitiveness. Make up your mind on that, and our advice can be a lot more specialised.

Also, please do showcase armour and weight with your robot - it greatly helps with giving you feedback.

On the subject of keeping your bot flush with the floor whilst swinging the axe, you could add a wedge to the front which your opponent drives up on first before firing the axes - that way the weight of your opponent will actually keep your bot held down.


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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2018, 01:13:23 PM »
First major decision you want to make in this game is whether or not you want to build DSL-S or DSL-IRL

No, stop making people pick.

Edit: Of course, decing what meta an indiviual robot belongs to is important, but that's not what usually gets suggested by these comments.

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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2018, 02:12:50 PM »
so this is now what my current incarnation of my MW (formerly HW) looks like i replaced the armor with 3MM aluminum, it now has extender work for its front scoop/shovel to offer it some spinner protection. The drive has remained unchanged but i have added an extra WPC836e battery and removed the battlepack and changed to VDMA to power both axes.

 
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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2018, 07:04:07 PM »
This is my new HW 793KG of dizzying fury using 2 PC545 batteries 2 NPC (fast) drive motors 2 reinforced perm 80 XXL weapon motors each with a solid 100cm disk with 2 ripping teeth each 2 casters and 2 slap happy wheels covered in 10mm aluminum. it can run invertable but slight unstable and can spin up while spinning its ripping disks each controlled with a separate switch to conserve battery life.

 
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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2018, 07:10:40 PM »
This is my new HW 793KG of dizzying fury using 2 PC545 batteries 2 NPC (fast) drive motors 2 reinforced perm 80 XXL weapon motors each with a solid 100cm disk with 2 ripping teeth each 2 casters and 2 slap happy wheels covered in 10mm aluminum. it can run invertable but slight unstable and can spin up while spinning its ripping disks each controlled with a separate switch to conserve battery life.

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Looks great. Also, is this an IRL bot, Because if yes, you should enter it to a tournament (Orc's Wars Overclocked).

Also, just to clarify what FOTEPX said, DSL-S is unrealistic, and as he said before, focus more on competitiveness, with emphasis on making a bot as efficient as possible. IRL, on the other hand, is making a bot as close as to what is possible in real life

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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2018, 07:16:04 PM »
This is my new HW 793KG of dizzying fury using 2 PC545 batteries 2 NPC (fast) drive motors 2 reinforced perm 80 XXL weapon motors each with a solid 100cm disk with 2 ripping teeth each 2 casters and 2 slap happy wheels covered in 10mm aluminum. it can run invertable but slight unstable and can spin up while spinning its ripping disks each controlled with a separate switch to conserve battery life.

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Looks great. Also, is this an IRL bot, Because if yes, you should enter it to a tournament (Orc's Wars Overclocked).

Also, just to clarify what FOTEPX said, DSL-S is unrealistic, and as he said before, focus more on competitiveness, with emphasis on making a bot as efficient as possible. IRL, on the other hand, is making a bot as close as to what is possible in real life

its perfectly feasable in real life i believe 13 black in robot wars uk did something very similar i just havent learnt how to AI bots yet to enter it

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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2018, 07:37:56 PM »
It is feasible IRL, but most if not all tournaments are going to require weapon supports for the disks.

Something like this is what I mean:
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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 07:39:47 PM »
Uh, this in its current state isnt irl. youll be needing more support to the weapon, ideally in a V shape. You also have too many batteries. 2 red bats are enough for the machin even with all motors constantly on. Try to reduce your chassis size as much as you can, it saves weight and eables you to put that weight into more important things. Id finally recommend using perm132s on perm80s, more powerful and better suited for the weight class.

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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 07:46:58 PM »
i will add a basic weapon support and i havent fully tested the battery life yet so i put 2 in just to be safe for now but i will probably remove one and shorten the chassis when i make the final build in its current state it doesnt offer much weight to play with to keep it a HW. i was originally going to make it 4 wheel drive with the disks hidden before i settled on making it a disk thwackbot.

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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 07:56:58 PM »
Give it a skin too. No one likes a robot that is just an armor skin.
As for improving the design, you don't need reinforcement on the perm if you have extender supports, and there might be more efficient options than 10mm aluminium. (Don't quote me on that)
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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2018, 10:29:55 PM »
I would swap the teeth out for something else. Ripping teeth have good stats but they don't look that good in my opinion
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Re: Nightravens Showcase of badly built bots
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2018, 12:39:42 AM »
Last build for today while i still get used to using DSL i thought i would try a front hinge flipper. HW 797KG using 2 storm front hinge pistons, 2 NPC fast PC and WP batteries 10MM aluminum armour and steal panels for flipper arms and wedges with spikes for extra damage and hexplate wheel armor.
 
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