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Moz Fails at DSL
« on: March 31, 2018, 03:03:38 AM »
Hi guys! I'm new to the forum, but I've been playing RA2 for a bit. I'm decent at Stock, but I'm new to DSL.

I've done some bots in Stock, and they're much better than my DSL bots. But I lost the files to both. Anyway, I've recreated some of my DSL guys on a different PC.

Just a note, I have NO idea how attachment works. Everytime I try to insert one, it always shows as invalid. Sorry for the links.



This one is a failed experiment. Half a remake of one of my Stock VS, half a Mako clone.

Hope I did this right.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2018, 06:20:59 AM by moziet »
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2018, 03:48:37 AM »
make sure to add IMG Tag bewteen to image link
Code: [Select]
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267939138961932299/429546944835092481/lc2.png[/img]becuase I feel like tried of clicking the link to see the image.

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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2018, 06:21:01 AM »
Firstly Welcome!
Secondly: Use Image attachment system. Wen made a thread about it.
Thirdly: If you were going IRL with the first bot, you will have to remove the skirts
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2018, 06:21:54 AM »
make sure to add IMG Tag bewteen to image link
Code: [Select]
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267939138961932299/429546944835092481/lc2.png[/img]becuase I feel like tried of clicking the link to see the image.

Thanks for the tip, mate! Edited it now.

Thirdly: If you were going IRL with the first bot, you will have to remove the skirts

Eh, I'm not really going for IRL. Plus, before you posted this I removed the skirts and added iron spikes on the wheels. Either way It's not realistic. :^)
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2018, 06:28:46 AM »
Oh ye, image system
https://gametechmods.com/forums/site-news-and-feedback/how-to-use-insert-attachment/
Well, my first bots looked like that soo...
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2018, 07:02:02 AM »
Well, my first bots looked like that soo...

They must have done better than mine. XD

Also, I experimented a bit and I made a better Monsoon.

I still need to learn how to make good wedges. Aside from burst wedges.
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2018, 07:44:26 AM »
Its good for a DSL-S bot
Although one black batt wont get you far, i would suggest lose 2 teeth per disc and add more batts
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2018, 08:40:03 AM »
I actually have two black batts in there. One is blocked by the things in there. One thing I forgot to say is that the srimech sucks and it can only sometimes self right. Oops-
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2018, 11:33:43 AM »
you dont have to put a spoiler for your pictures
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2018, 08:33:53 PM »
you dont have to put a spoiler for your pictures
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2018, 09:57:49 PM »
Well, my first bots looked like that soo...

They must have done better than mine. XD

Also, I experimented a bit and I made a better Monsoon.

I still need to learn how to make good wedges. Aside from burst wedges.

Hello, seeing new people build is always nice. I can tell a lot of time went in to crafting the intricate shape of Monsoon 2, but if your goal is to make an even more competitive DSL-S robot then I'll share some knowledge with you:

[ok I deleted a paragraph here - I read "not a mako clone" as "mako clone" but whatever]

Secondly, there are a lot of areas where your Monsoon can be improved. Srimechs are pretty cool, but most VS have a weapon that is strong enough to flip the robot over when upside down, and simply going off of that is great for competitive VSes because then they don't have to spend weight on the srimech. From what I can see, the wedge is made from an extended skirt hinge, but your robot will be wedgier if you use multiple single ones (having the wedges connected into one big wedge is worse). Also, the wedge and probably the front end of the robot should be wider. This allows for wider wedges and more area for an opposing robot to sit on. Lastly, having stray iron spikes isn't the most efficient use of weight. I know I'm killing the aesthetic look of your robot with those last two pieces of advice, but they would help with maximizing the effectiveness of the robot in combat, if that's what you care about (and generally is what the DSL-S building style focuses on).

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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2018, 07:29:16 AM »
you may want to use metal skirts for that vertical spinner supports. they are much more efficient and have more hp than round connectors iirc.

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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2018, 06:04:27 AM »
Hiya, guys! Sorry for being a bit inactive here.

you dont have to put a spoiler for your pictures

I do it to not make my replies super long.

Hello, seeing new people build is always nice. I can tell a lot of time went in to crafting the intricate shape of Monsoon 2, but if your goal is to make an even more competitive DSL-S robot then I'll share some knowledge with you:

[ok I deleted a paragraph here - I read "not a mako clone" as "mako clone" but whatever]

Secondly, there are a lot of areas where your Monsoon can be improved. Srimechs are pretty cool, but most VS have a weapon that is strong enough to flip the robot over when upside down, and simply going off of that is great for competitive VSes because then they don't have to spend weight on the srimech. From what I can see, the wedge is made from an extended skirt hinge, but your robot will be wedgier if you use multiple single ones (having the wedges connected into one big wedge is worse). Also, the wedge and probably the front end of the robot should be wider. This allows for wider wedges and more area for an opposing robot to sit on. Lastly, having stray iron spikes isn't the most efficient use of weight. I know I'm killing the aesthetic look of your robot with those last two pieces of advice, but they would help with maximizing the effectiveness of the robot in combat, if that's what you care about (and generally is what the DSL-S building style focuses on).

Noted, and put into action!


And a brand new bot, Everything At Once.


I did what Naryar said I should do, and the old Monsoon became pretty stable from before. I also replaced the drive to a slower one, but it's much more controllable. Unfortunately, I feel like I won't revisit the old Monsoon design any time soon, so no pictures. :frown:
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2018, 01:52:57 PM »
Monsoon looks improved, but it has no protection other than a back armor plate, that should be moved to the front.

What's with the back weapon on Everything At Once? For now, it looks like a weight waster.
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2018, 05:12:59 AM »
Monsoon looks improved, but it has no protection other than a back armor plate, that should be moved to the front.

What's with the back weapon on Everything At Once? For now, it looks like a weight waster.

Aye, thanks! I should really give Monsoon some front protection, eh? Will do that.

EAO's back weapon is there to give her more firepower, as the popup weapon doesn't do as much damage as you'd expect a popup to do.
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2018, 06:13:23 AM »
>go to post more bots
>i have to double post
>feelsbadman

Right! I'm back and I'm ready to post more robits.



I do have more bots (and revisions of old bots!) to show off, but for now, these are the ones I will show off.
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2018, 02:52:14 PM »
Both could look better. Cloudburst especially isn't a looker. Either way, their internals are pretty neat and organized, so not bad at all.
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2018, 04:38:27 PM »
it would be really nice if you would stop putting your images in spoilers, it makes it really hard to find specific bots

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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2018, 10:09:21 PM »
Both could look better. Cloudburst especially isn't a looker. Either way, their internals are pretty neat and organized, so not bad at all.
How could I improve their looks? CBurst I still plan to skin soon.
it would be really nice if you would stop putting your images in spoilers, it makes it really hard to find specific bots
Right then.




Here is the brand new Locked Cage! I really should have named it Locked Cage II. The internals are mostly the same except the drive is now 4 SlimBody motors. I changed the armor from 10mm Plastic to 5mm Ti. Plus, cool skin.
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Re: Moz Fails at DSL
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2018, 08:18:15 AM »
Agh, sorry for double posting..




First IRL bot posted here! Astronaut 13 is a pretty cool build IMO. Drive is regular NPCs. Top of the flipper is Ti and the bottom is Steel. Forgot what the armor is. If I remember, it's 3mm Ti. Bursts are Wide Mediums.




Latest IRL bot that I built, [REDACTED]. It's a ring spinner! The teeth are large and small Typhoons and Ti wedges. Armor if I remember is also 5mm Ti. It might be a bit spammy on the teeth, but I'm not sure.
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