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Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« on: July 12, 2012, 03:38:11 AM »
So yeah, if you saw my stock thread, you'll know I don't really go for huge deathmachines with 4 tri-bars and 36 maces to destroy everything it sees in under 30 seconds, but instead opt to try making robots that might actually be feasible 'real-life' competitors.

I've been playing around with DSL this morning and came up with spinning drum robot with a rather unoriginal theme.


Soon, I shall return. With more. Mwa hahaha. Hahahaha. Ahem.

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2012, 03:40:35 AM »
Nice! I like it!

With the batteries.  You can get away with one ant battery (the small orange ones) per spin motor in a bot.  That usually works just fine and you can ignore all those big clunky ones.  :D

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2012, 04:22:24 AM »
Only 1 ant motor, even for the drum? Surprising.

Is trying to make that arm a srimech a bit of a lost cause? Seems completely the wrong shape. I might just rebuild it to be invertible.

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2012, 04:26:33 AM »
Only 1 ant motor, even for the drum? Surprising.

Is trying to make that arm a srimech a bit of a lost cause? Seems completely the wrong shape. I might just rebuild it to be invertible.

A single JX Burst won't be enough to self-right a HW bot. Good job building to the weight limit, though. And most newcomers tend to overdo it on the batteries, but as JD said, every spin motor requires 1 ant to fully power it for 3 minutes. Burst motors require more, I'm not 100% sure on the values, but BSG's require 2.5 ants each, Small and Large JX need 5 and 7 respectively, and Betas either need 14 or 21, I can never remember. You could probably get away with the tall battreies for Beta Bursts if you need them. As a general rule, though, you should build the chassis around the components, rather than the components around the chassis. A little bit of planning beforehand, and knowing what you want to build can help a lot when your skill level begins to increase.
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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2012, 04:35:34 AM »
Only 1 ant motor, even for the drum? Surprising.

Is trying to make that arm a srimech a bit of a lost cause? Seems completely the wrong shape. I might just rebuild it to be invertible.

A single JX Burst won't be enough to self-right a HW bot. Good job building to the weight limit, though. And most newcomers tend to overdo it on the batteries, but as JD said, every spin motor requires 1 ant to fully power it for 3 minutes. Burst motors require more, I'm not 100% sure on the values, but BSG's require 2.5 ants each, Small and Large JX need 5 and 7 respectively, and Betas either need 14 or 21, I can never remember. You could probably get away with the tall battreies for Beta Bursts if you need them. As a general rule, though, you should build the chassis around the components, rather than the components around the chassis. A little bit of planning beforehand, and knowing what you want to build can help a lot when your skill level begins to increase.
But 2 BSGs can self-right a HW bot.
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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 04:49:52 AM »
So yeah, if you saw my stock thread, you'll know I don't really go for huge deathmachines with 4 tri-bars and 36 maces to destroy everything it sees in under 30 seconds, but instead opt to try making robots that might actually be feasible 'real-life' competitors.

I've been playing around with DSL this morning and came up with spinning drum robot with a rather unoriginal theme.
hmmmmmmmm......., this is similar to what Thyrus said when he started his DSL showcase. You're destined for awesomeness in making IRL bots kid, i can feel that.

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 05:13:21 AM »
Cheers, guys. :)

Currently uploading something a little different to add to the showcase.

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2012, 05:27:20 AM »
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay double post.

I can actually show how they fare in action now, rather than just pictures. :)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3J6vd3M5I&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2012, 06:01:49 AM »
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay double post.

I can actually show how they fare in action now, rather than just pictures. :)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3J6vd3M5I&feature=youtu.be
try fighting against heavyweight bot that is not replica
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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2012, 07:09:53 AM »
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay double post.

I can actually show how they fare in action now, rather than just pictures. :)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3J6vd3M5I&feature=youtu.be
try fighting against heavyweight bot that is not replica

 If it was a standard DSL bot, your advice would be good, but it's an IRL bot, so...

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2012, 08:40:58 AM »
It looks pretty cool indeed. Just remember the 1 ant rule, which doesn't apply for burst motors - you should always try and fully power those using the amps it says in the description.

Also, I'm not sure if you're aware of 'normals' but here we go. Some weapons only deal damage at one specific point - with the Pointy Tip you're using on the tail, it literally only deals damage with the tip. It's fine for IRL bots because they're not all about damage, but if you happen to want to make more damage, maybe use a Razor Tip or Iron Spike. People can let you know what weapons have/haven't got normals as and when required :D

But yeah, looks pretty cool as a first DSL IRL bot :D
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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2012, 09:53:52 AM »
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay double post.

I can actually show how they fare in action now, rather than just pictures. :)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3J6vd3M5I&feature=youtu.be
try fighting against heavyweight bot that is not replica

 If it was a standard DSL bot, your advice would be good, but it's an IRL bot, so...

I would get destroyed. Completely. No contest.

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2012, 04:40:31 PM »
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay double post.

I can actually show how they fare in action now, rather than just pictures. :)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3J6vd3M5I&feature=youtu.be
try fighting against heavyweight bot that is not replica

 If it was a standard DSL bot, your advice would be good, but it's an IRL bot, so...
But...at least fight chaos2 or razer
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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2012, 04:50:53 PM »
Those are worse than Hypnodisc, at least, Chaos 2 is.

Back to your robot Merrick; if you exchange that burst motor for the green one, (maybe having two), it'll be able to self-right more effectively. I made a Scorpion-y looking robot here
, so you should be able to make an effective weapon and schrimech in one!

Batteries, everybody's already mentioned. You'll have more space for the motors when you change to ants.

I'd maybe see if you can move your drive wheels forwards, and find space for a second set of smaller wheels near the back. Alternatively, four wheels of the same size. It's just a bit better than casters is all.

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2012, 09:31:04 PM »
I never learn, do I?

MOAR BATTERIES.  :dance:

I'm a sucker for having more power, what can I say? That and the inclusion of not one, but three blacks actually means I can reliably self right. For a change.


God forbid it ever goes up against a half decent spinner or axe though.

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2012, 09:54:41 PM »
I never learn, do I?

MOAR BATTERIES.  :dance:

I'm a sucker for having more power, what can I say? That and the inclusion of not one, but three blacks actually means I can reliably self right. For a change.


God forbid it ever goes up against a half decent spinner or axe though.
lower the bot and get Tornados so that you can ditch the srimech and add better weapon motors(perm 132, 6 mag, dual perm) and add MOAR WEAPONS :dance:

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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2012, 11:03:51 PM »
I never learn, do I?

MOAR BATTERIES.  :dance:

I'm a sucker for having more power, what can I say? That and the inclusion of not one, but three blacks actually means I can reliably self right. For a change.


God forbid it ever goes up against a half decent spinner or axe though.
Only needs 10 ants or 3 ants and 2 battlepack for it
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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2012, 11:09:46 PM »
10 ants is a bit much, id probably go with 7 or 8

(btw op spin motors only use 10 amps despite what the description reads)
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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2012, 05:45:43 AM »
Looks pretty cool. I'd recommend getting some more weight by shrinking the chassis a little, bringing the height down, and mounting your burst motors - if you still need them - with just 1 raised multi-extender, rather than the crazy looking extender work in there right now.

If you want invertability, use Tornado wheels (after shrinking the chassis), otherwise I'd recommend other grippier wheels than the Tazbot wheels, like Hypnodisc's.
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Re: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2012, 07:35:55 AM »
Hmm. Cheers guys. I'm a little annoyed right now. Why the heck is it saying it'll take 7 hours to upload a 2 and half minute YouTube video?  :rage