Author Topic: Merrick's Attempts At 'Realistic' DSL (Read 16969 times)

Merrick · « **Reply #20 on:** July 18, 2012, 08:07:28 PM »

I RETURN. From being rather busy.

Lots of failed attempts to make something that looks realistic, yet still fairly original. I'll probably upload something new before the weekend.

Any advice on how to make flippers more powerful? I'm using 2 JX Burst Motors, with a ton of batteries to add power, but I'm still failing to toss robots around with the ease that they can flip my 700kg bot.

God, I'm crap at this.

Foul language removed ... user warned

Badnik96 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 18, 2012, 10:28:50 PM »

JX burst motors are crap, pure and simple. Use either 4+ BSG burst motors or 2 beta burst motors. If you want to build IRL, Judge burst motors are feasible as well, but they are under cheatbot2 and are only usable on IRL-realistic bots.

martymidget · « **Reply #22 on:** July 19, 2012, 06:37:17 AM »

An 8 BSG flipper is entriely possible at HW level. :P

Merrick · « **Reply #23 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:09:36 AM »

Well, 2 BSG's allowed me to make a middleweight capable of flipping Tornado OOTA. I guess it's a start. Even if it is either:
A) A fluke
or
B) Just incredibly amateur.

Might work on creating something bigger with Beta motors. We'll see.

Gauche Suede · « **Reply #24 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:14:12 AM »

Quote from: Merrick on July 19, 2012, 10:09:36 AM

Well, 2 BSG's allowed me to make a middleweight capable of flipping Tornado OOTA. I guess it's a start. Even if it is either:
A) A fluke
or
B) Just incredibly amateur.

Might work on creating something bigger with Beta motors. We'll see.

AAAAARRRGGGHHHH the empty space.
use 2WD NPC Fasts(or normals) with tornados or hypnos, change the flipper to a simple alu/titanium skirt, lower the chassis, and reduce empty space.

Merrick · « **Reply #25 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:26:53 AM »

I love my empty space. It frustrates everyone else.

Philippa · « **Reply #26 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:28:34 AM »

Does look like it should have been in Series 3 of Robot Wars.

Change the control borad to the blue one because it's lighter and change the baseplate anchors to multi-extenders.
Lower the chassis as well and you might get some more armour on it. What armour do you have at the moment?

Merrick · « **Reply #27 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:54:01 AM »

1mm Steel I think. Anything more and it becomes a heavyweight.

martymidget · « **Reply #28 on:** July 19, 2012, 01:04:17 PM »

Quote from: Gauche Suede on July 19, 2012, 10:14:12 AM

Quote from: Merrick on July 19, 2012, 10:09:36 AM
Well, 2 BSG's allowed me to make a middleweight capable of flipping Tornado OOTA. I guess it's a start. Even if it is either:
A) A fluke
or
B) Just incredibly amateur.

Might work on creating something bigger with Beta motors. We'll see.
AAAAARRRGGGHHHH the empty space.
use 2WD NPC Fasts(or normals) with tornados or hypnos, change the flipper to a simple alu/titanium skirt, lower the chassis, and reduce empty space.

If you cannot tell that's an IRL bot....

Celestial Panda · « **Reply #29 on:** July 19, 2012, 02:10:10 PM »

Wont the poor thing get stuck on it's back?

Badnik96 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 19, 2012, 03:42:55 PM »

The arc of the flipper keeps that from happening I think.

Merrick · « **Reply #31 on:** July 19, 2012, 05:16:32 PM »

Yeah, it flips itself over, but the flipper is shaped so that it can even reach the back panel.

I've realised I'm not following anyone's advice when it comes to building these things. I think I just want them to look cool, yet realistic....

Does anyone know what I have to do to get custom decals working? I've tried saving them as a TGA file and putting it in both the Custom Textures and Decals folder to be sure, but still it doesn't work. Am I just being stupid?

Thyrus · « **Reply #32 on:** July 19, 2012, 05:22:31 PM »

if you`re looking for inspiration you could check out this guys showcase https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,4936.0.html
I miss him

Badnik96 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 19, 2012, 05:49:02 PM »

Quote from: Merrick on July 19, 2012, 05:16:32 PM

Yeah, it flips itself over, but the flipper is shaped so that it can even reach the back panel.

I've realised I'm not following anyone's advice when it comes to building these things. I think I just want them to look cool, yet realistic....

Does anyone know what I have to do to get custom decals working? I've tried saving them as a TGA file and putting it in both the Custom Textures and Decals folder to be sure, but still it doesn't work. Am I just being stupid?

It needs to be 128x128 or something similar (256x256, 512x512, etc)

Also, the "cool but realistic" building is the new cool thing right now, you joined at the right time.

There's even an AI pack being put together for it, Live Designs AI. The development topic is in my sig.

Merrick · « **Reply #34 on:** July 19, 2012, 06:53:54 PM »

Quote from: Badnik96 on July 19, 2012, 05:49:02 PM

It needs to be 128x128 or something similar (256x256, 512x512, etc)

That might be where I'm going wrong, I'll have to double check what size I was using. Cheers.

Quote from: Badnik96 on July 19, 2012, 05:49:02 PM

Also, the "cool but realistic" building is the new cool thing right now, you joined at the right time.

Either I joined at the right time, or I'm just some noob who'll get lost amongst the more experienced builders who have started doing what I'm trying before I joined.

ANYWAY, I'm not proud of this next bot. It's just a prototype for what I'm hoping to become a hammer bot. With two hammers.

I think I've actually underpowered this one, it's very sluggish in all aspects, including weapons.

Mr. AS · « **Reply #35 on:** July 19, 2012, 07:09:13 PM »

its very underweight.
pf course its slow, piglets are not suited for drive, only weapon purposes

Gauche Suede · « **Reply #36 on:** July 19, 2012, 07:10:07 PM »

Quote from: Merrick on July 19, 2012, 06:53:54 PM

Quote from: Badnik96 on July 19, 2012, 05:49:02 PM
It needs to be 128x128 or something similar (256x256, 512x512, etc)

That might be where I'm going wrong, I'll have to double check what size I was using. Cheers.

Quote from: Badnik96 on July 19, 2012, 05:49:02 PM
Also, the "cool but realistic" building is the new cool thing right now, you joined at the right time.

Either I joined at the right time, or I'm just some noob who'll get lost amongst the more experienced builders who have started doing what I'm trying before I joined.

ANYWAY, I'm not proud of this next bot. It's just a prototype for what I'm hoping to become a hammer bot. With two hammers.

I think I've actually underpowered this one, it's very sluggish in all aspects, including weapons.

PIGGGLLLEEETTTTSSS FFOOORRR DDDRRIIIVVVEEE inb4nary

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on the bot: just use 2WD NPC Fasts with Technos for this. For the flipper, use a Titanium or Steel skirt, and for the hammer, it's fine, but i think razors are better cause they're bigger, have more damage, and look cooler. And finally, if you wanna go IRL, use a titanium skirt on a skirt hinge, or, if you wanna try your luck at DSL Standard, use a Titanium skirt on a metal hinge.

NFX · « **Reply #37 on:** July 19, 2012, 07:23:45 PM »

Mortis-like. Cool. Drive is pretty terrible, though Piglets are weapon motors, rather than drive motors. Astroflights, or TWM's would be better in this situation. Micro wheels generally aren't that good either, Minis or Hypnos would be better here. Long Batteries are the worst choice you can make, ant batteries are better, or perhaps the tall Black batteries if you're using two Betas here. You've got over 200 kilos to work with, you could easily improve this in the right ways. =)

Mr. AS · « **Reply #38 on:** July 19, 2012, 07:25:52 PM »

Quote from: NFX on July 19, 2012, 07:23:45 PM

Astroflights, or TWM's would be better in this situation.

but this is a hw................................. why not 4wd npc fasts ?

Merrick · « **Reply #39 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:28:58 PM »

I've tried rebuilding Hannibal to the advice given but without much success. I'll have another go when I get up (love days off).

Before I go to bed, I leave you with some fairly tame efforts, and the first attempted rebuild of Hannibal. Just experimenting really. I think a lot of the previous comments highlight the problems with these.