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Robot Arena => Showcases => DSL TC Showcases => Topic started by: KupaRizu on October 27, 2015, 06:52:05 AM

Title: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: KupaRizu on October 27, 2015, 06:52:05 AM
Oh hey guys, welcome to my showcase, I'll be putting a picture up soon and links to my various designs on this first post, as a sort of index, hope you enjoy!

Bot list:
PUNCHCAT (LW Puncher) (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=18135.msg687443#msg687443)
BUZZKILL (LW HS) (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=18135.msg687651#msg687651)

Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: madman3 on October 27, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
It's quite underweaponed for a mw and rather thin. I'd recommend going with a shorter and wider chassis shape so you only need vlads to be invertible . That should leave you with some weight to add more weapons.
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: Bobyasianboy on October 27, 2015, 08:37:35 AM
That support thing isn't necessary on the bot since you're building DSL-Standard. Also slipperbottom wheels are pretty bad, vlad wheels would be the best to use here.
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: KupaRizu on October 27, 2015, 09:22:36 AM
Quote from: Bobyasianboy on October 27, 2015, 08:37:35 AM
That support thing isn't necessary on the bot since you're building DSL-Standard. Also slipperbottom wheels are pretty bad, vlad wheels would be the best to use here.

The support beam was meant more as a protection of the Perm than a support structure. I've shrunk down the chassis height a little bit and changed the wheels to Vlads as per your recommendation.

Quote from: madman3 on October 27, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
It's quite underweaponed for a mw and rather thin. I'd recommend going with a shorter and wider chassis shape so you only need vlads to be invertible . That should leave you with some weight to add more weapons.

I shortened and widened the chassis, which had the consequence of turning my vertically mounted drum in to a horizontal drum. I switched to Vlads, and upped the weapon power by switching to the larger Perm and replacing my beaters with sledgehammers, performs much better.

Updated component picture:

(http://i.imgur.com/I7WLBK2.png)

4 Ants, Plastic 3 (to keep middleweight), 389.9kg
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: Avalanche on October 27, 2015, 09:44:01 AM
Unrealistic due to the fact that the hammers will cut through the perm. If you are going for IRL, extend outwards the perm by increasing the length and put some supports. Not sure about this drum setup either as it keeps the hammers in very close, and also the wedges are not very useful in that position as the weapon is above it.
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 27, 2015, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: Avalanche on October 27, 2015, 09:44:01 AM
If you are going for IRL
Yeah, no. IRL is actively bad for someone new to start out with.

The wedges are useless altogether on a single-motor HS. My best bet would be to use the top attachment point of the perm for your weapon. That way you can put as long of a weapon on as you want and not have it intersect the motor. You might also want to consider attaching the perm to the front of your chassis.
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: Somebody on October 27, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Putting the weapons on top would kill them though, they wouldn't be able to hit much at all. What you need to worry about is, because of the angled shape and weapons, robots will very easily get around to your side. So maybe some chassis/wheel protection on the side they're more likely to be on, or maybe even a wedge down that side to keep them away.
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: madman3 on October 28, 2015, 02:31:47 AM
You don't need the weapon motor mounted internally if you have a perm 132 since they have tonnes of hitpoints. You can get away with a smaller chassis and probably angling your motor downwards (think Surgeon General) if you do that.
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: KupaRizu on October 28, 2015, 01:21:25 PM
Okay I'm going to continue working on Omega and will report back when I am happy with the results. Until then I give unto you my little lightweight monster that is:

PUNCHCAT
(http://i.imgur.com/BBg3i17.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/gHXv8ZI.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/ARa0BHV.png)

Tiny little thing that runs on 2 magmotors and deals damage via a compressed air powered fist. Titanium 5 armour.
I built it after seeing Lightning S's Ironbot Jr idea, hopefully his tournament goes through and I'm able to enter in to it :D


Find your opinions, tell them to me :D
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: Thrackerzod on October 28, 2015, 01:53:01 PM
Cool bot, it has personality.

If you could find a way to shuffle the internals to allow for invertability (hypno wheels allow invertability on minimum-height bots) that'd be good.

I donno how good fists are as weapons, but it might be too tall for invertability.  You might want to consider swapping to several beater bars or something, though admittedly that would have far less pizzazz.  That said, I haven't played DSL for over 6 months, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

Cool avatar also.
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: KupaRizu on October 31, 2015, 11:22:02 AM
Quote from: Thrackerzod on October 28, 2015, 01:53:01 PM
You might want to consider swapping to several beater bars or something, though admittedly that would have far less pizzazz.

I'm still not entirely too sure of the purpose or correct usage of Beater Bars if I'm going to be honest, would anyone be willing to link me to some IRL or DSL bots that make good use of them so I can learn from the masters?

Quote from: Thrackerzod on October 28, 2015, 01:53:01 PM
Cool avatar also.

Thank you very much, likewise to yourself :P
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: KupaRizu on October 31, 2015, 11:25:33 AM
Not much feedback on PUNCHCAT, don't know wether that is a good thing or a bad thing, but I return once more with another little bot for your enjoyment!

The rather originally named:
BUZZKILL

(http://i.imgur.com/hzUdmAE.png)
A tiny little HS, effective against bots it can get under and difficult to flip thanks to its tiny ground clearance (which is problematic on bumpy stages but mo'well)

(http://i.imgur.com/BFygbyw.png)
4 Ants, 2 Magmotors and the blade is on a small perm, Titanium 1 armour.

I am working on something a little bit better than PUNCHCAT or BUZZKILL for my next showcase, I'm learning much from you guys, so I thank you very much and hope to see you all on the battlefield soon :D
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: Thrackerzod on October 31, 2015, 12:39:43 PM
Quote from: KupaRizu on October 31, 2015, 11:22:02 AM
I'm still not entirely too sure of the purpose or correct usage of Beater Bars if I'm going to be honest, would anyone be willing to link me to some IRL or DSL bots that make good use of them so I can learn from the masters?


Also, if you have two posts to make in quick succession, you can just edit the first post instead of making two posts.
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: KupaRizu on October 31, 2015, 12:43:35 PM
Quote from: Thrackerzod on October 31, 2015, 12:39:43 PM
Also, if you have two posts to make in quick succession, you can just edit the first post instead of making two posts.

Sorry about that, I completely forgot about the Edit button, my bad.

Thank you very much for the example of a beater bar bot, I'm sort of understanding their use from browsing other showcases and reading what people have said. May have to try my hand at them and figure them out at some point
Title: Re: KupaRizu's DSL Showcase
Post by: martymidget on October 31, 2015, 06:19:50 PM
Beaters are mostly used as weapon extensions that also double as concussion weapons themselves. For spinners, they're best used with piercing weapons (such as light dsl teeth or razors), and for rammers they're good to use by themselves, such as the bot Thrackerzod posted.

https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Concussion (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Concussion)
https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Piercing (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Piercing)

For an example of a bot that uses beater bars for deweaponing and for gutripping;


Maybe you could come up with a new way of using them. That'd be cool.
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