Author Topic: Jets' DSL showcase (Read 19125 times)

Badnik96 · « **Reply #40 on:** April 22, 2011, 06:34:27 PM »

wow, I guess my meme is more popular than I thought :P

Anyway, Hammer Heads suck. I would replace it with a 50 KG hammer (eats up weight too :P)

Pwnator · « **Reply #41 on:** April 22, 2011, 08:46:06 PM »

Replace that hammer head with a 60kg sledge.

Anyway, it's realistic (it's just 2 slots, not really half the plows). Use up the weight with MOAR WEAPONZ.

And probably a longer wedge.

Jet-speed · « **Reply #42 on:** April 22, 2011, 10:54:29 PM »

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I give up on heavyweights...

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Just kidding, but srsly. >< After two or so hours of messing around with the design this is what i'm currently at. It's a large improvement over the original, but it's still a failed Big Metal Friend clone (wasn't the idea, but just remembered BMF ;<). Switched the bursts out for large versions, upped the power (there's two orange things in there nao, technical term), most of the changes are visible. Switched out for NPC fasts which help alot. Couldn't get a wedge on though, which I should probably try to do but after so many remakes i'm taking a break. Hammers are 60KG, and eet iz invertible, and the armour got upgrade to Tite 10 since i'm that desperate to spend weight on something.

What i've found though, is that even on only a 80 CM extender, the Hammers aren't being swung very hard or very quickly at all; which surprises me since the bursts have adaquate power. Maybe it's just that I fail, or maybe it's an issue with the design; BMF seems to hit alot harder for alot longer despite running out of battery faster than I. ;\

OT: Lol Badnik. I was lurking for a few days prior to reannouncing my presence, and saw it come up alot; then saw it was started by you. ^^ You'll probably end up seeing alot of it in my showcase, my heavyweights right nao are usually a good 100/200 underweight initially. ><

Jet-speed · « **Reply #43 on:** April 23, 2011, 05:51:55 AM »

DP: Back to building Middleweights. :3

So out of my hatred for Sledge hammers, I took two of them and put them on an unecessarily fast box and gave it an inconspicuous name.

Power: Two ants (not sure if it's underpowered, but it lasts a

of a long time)
Drive: Four NPCF's
Armour: Tite 1
Weapons: 60KG SLEDGE HAMMURZ LOL. Oh, and a Medium beater bar for extender protection :D

Is essentially a brick wall on wheels. Fully invertible and way too fast considering i'm not going for a piercing OHKO. Outweapons pretty much everything in a head-to-head scenario, rammers/VS's/Pokers etc, but anything that gut-rips tears it apart due to no wedges or bottom protection. Only things I find for main issues are that the rear NPC's are quite exposed should I get flanked (which happens quite alot with me driving ;<) and that it's quite hard to KO with unless I can continually back up, charge and repeat; so it's more pushy for gradual damage rather than OMGWTFBBQ oneshot with 200 Razor tips. :3

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #44 on:** April 23, 2011, 05:55:00 AM »

I think 2WD NPCF with Technos is better and lighter.
4 ants would be better for this (but 2WD only needs 2 so saves even more weight)

Pwnator · « **Reply #45 on:** April 23, 2011, 05:58:14 AM »

lolwutname

Try removing the beater for stronger armor.

Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on April 23, 2011, 05:55:00 AM

I think 2WD NPCF with Technos is better and lighter.

Lighter? Yes. Better? Not exactly.

Try steering one. Or better yet, put one in reverse.

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #46 on:** April 23, 2011, 06:01:22 AM »

Stampede seemed fine.

Pwnator · « **Reply #47 on:** April 23, 2011, 06:09:10 AM »

I wasn't exactly satisfied by its driving. The AI did a great job, but you could see the bot was still struggling. :P

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #48 on:** April 23, 2011, 06:16:05 AM »

Anyway, with 4WD NPCF it is advantageous to use the Trov Chassis glitch.

Jet-speed · « **Reply #49 on:** April 23, 2011, 06:39:46 AM »

Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on April 23, 2011, 06:16:05 AM

Anyway, with 4WD NPCF it is advantageous to use the Trov Chassis glitch.

Don't know it. How to do it I mean, I know the glitch. :P

Well tbh, I just wanted to try and come up with something that isn't just two wheels in a box with spikes... So I did FOUR wheels in a box with spi-... Sledges, cuz i'm that original. :P

Anyway, tried it:

Works pretty well. Tried Techno's but quickly got rid of them when I realised just how high up off the ground it put the chassis, really screwed with the stability. Same armour, added four spikes; and the piercing damage from them does actually make a huge difference on its own. Moved the ME's a bit closer together so the beaters offer better protection, couldn't find much else to substitute them out for without being impractical. For some illogical reason the battery drains faster with two wheel drive than four, still lasts more than long enough but still, wdf? o.O
Tried a wedge, and i'm not sure about it. It's really wedgy, which helps it push/ram things around the arena since it doesn't just barrel roll over the top with its momentum, but when inverted i'm not sure how much it hinders the damage. Seems alright on average height bots, it doesn't get in the way; but not sure if i'm better off with it or without it.

Pwnator · « **Reply #50 on:** April 23, 2011, 06:50:10 AM »

Go for 5 30kg sledges and see what happens.

Jet-speed · « **Reply #51 on:** April 23, 2011, 06:55:25 AM »

Quote from: Pwnator on April 23, 2011, 06:50:10 AM

Go for 5 30kg sledges and see what happens.

Don't even know where i'd go about putting them on. o.O

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #52 on:** April 23, 2011, 07:32:49 AM »

I made a vid of making a rammer inspired by your recent one. It demonstrated the Trov glitch. (FRAPS was playing up a bit though)

Jet-speed · « **Reply #53 on:** April 23, 2011, 07:41:19 AM »

Sincere thanks for taking the time to make a video for me. Although if I may ask, what are you using to move the chassis points after forming the shape, around 0:35? ;o

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #54 on:** April 23, 2011, 07:42:25 AM »

The rectangle shaper is 1 pixel out of line so I had to adjust it.

Jet-speed · « **Reply #55 on:** April 23, 2011, 08:15:23 AM »

Gave it a go, got a few crashes too for some reason, probably my weird chassis shapes since I'm not familliar with it yet. :P

Think i'mma avoid it for nao.

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #56 on:** April 23, 2011, 08:21:29 AM »

You need to have no lines crossing, no angles greater than 2:1 and have the low graphics setting in options.

Jet-speed · « **Reply #57 on:** April 23, 2011, 09:02:03 AM »

I was bored.

Very bored. :3
Fail splash is fail, been about two-three years since I last did one, and it shows. :P
None of them are particularly interesting, but if you want insides say so. ;o

Pwnator · « **Reply #58 on:** April 23, 2011, 09:05:59 AM »

Romeo doesn't need a wedge (especially at that speeds).

I have doubts on Phantasy's efficiency (it does look totally awesome, though), the LW has greatly improved, and Cantarella's the best of the bunch.

Jet-speed · « **Reply #59 on:** April 23, 2011, 09:25:30 AM »

Quote from: Pwnator on April 23, 2011, 09:05:59 AM

Romeo doesn't need a wedge (especially at that speeds).

I have doubts on Phantasy's efficiency (it does look totally awesome, though), the LW has greatly improved, and Cantarella's the best of the bunch.

I fail at Antweights to be honest with you. :P I was just trying to create something combat efficient. Is it? Yes? Is it the best design? Far from it. :P Guess it's just a matter of practice as it is with my HW's.

Phantasy is suprisingly efficient. Has four ants in it which I thought would make it fail seeing how that's only enough for one BSG, forgetting the drive; yet it throws the even MW's around reliably for a good two or so minutes before losing power, and even then it's still capable of 'lifting'. BSG's also have a sizable amount of HP for the BW/LW divison too if I remember correctly (might just be making that up, am still rusty) so they don't get knocked off too easily. Not had any OOTA's yet though, but then the arena's I have aren't really suitable for a BW flipper to toss something OOTA.