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Robot Arena => Showcases => DSL TC Showcases => Topic started by: ianh05 on March 31, 2009, 06:06:56 PM
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so with talk about BBEANS 6 i decided to finally get into dsl. it's gonna take some time to get use to so any help would be great.
here's my first dsl lw:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/77091New Bitmap Image.JPG)
it's basically a lw juggler. i still haven't figured out how to get the wedges attached to each other like Mako >.<
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Oo
Nice bot...
But i think that he need a better skin :)
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Your best bet is to browse the showcases here and look for designs you like, then try to replicate them. This will help quite a bit in getting a feel for DSL.
Also, unless I'm mistaken, DSA armor doesn't work in DSL
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If that's DSA I'm seeing, you need to change it. Even the 1 mm plastic armor is superior, if I remember correctly.
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yep i changed it to steel 1 and i have had a look at a few dsl showcases for some ideas.
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Even so, its not a juggler, its more of a hybrid of a FS and a TS.
Steel is not that good, I find that 1mm tite works best on LWs.
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If he had left over weight he can't use for anything else, it is best to go for the strongest armor possible, no matter what the type.
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Mako Wedges are on Hinges.
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I always thought they were on axle mounts.
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Overpowered. You'll be fine with 2 or 3 ant batteries.
...And where's the control board ?!? I'm sure you can fit a blue one in there (lighter than the tiny green one)
And R1885 is right. 1mm Ti would be a good choice on this one with all your spinner shell panels for armor.
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Axle Mounts, Hinges, whatever it is, it is on a hinge/mount that is probably 90 or 180 degrees.
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working on DSL lw's at the moment. here's a few:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/109dsl lws.JPG)
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better look at the 3rd one in the pic, all results were AI vs AI:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/89044dsl lw 1.JPG)
it's invertible too.
I'm Working on a large lw VS at the moment, hopefully have it completed (stable and all) soon :)
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oh tough crowd, time for my 3rd post in a row..
more results with a few battle shots, all AI vs AI of course:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/33702New Bitmap Image (3).JPG)
won all matches without getting a scratch on the chassis :)
what would make a good match up for this lightweight?
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i think your PA skirt is a little high. might be an issue for invertibility.
Also, most of the replicas aren't really dangerous. Fight something like 360 Arc Pounder, and the other decent AI DSL LW's (you can even take on the MW's if you feel confident).
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it has defeated 360 arc pounder (i'll get a pic soon), in BBEANS 2 arena which is where i have been testing my lws. trying it against some mw's could be fun.
we need a dsl ai pack imo, or maybe someone would like to send me some lws to test against? ;)
oh and the PA skirt is perfect as it is, i've been watching it destroy a number of bots while upside down.. the weapons act as a grinder on the top of other bots when it's running upside down.
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here's a video of lw3 (now called Flawless victory) in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhosvHSi9jc
enjoy :)
fyi, the first bot it faces in the vid is one that my friend made.
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Inf likes! He really likes to 'tear it up!'
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cool i think i'm getting the hang of DSL now :) and yeah it does, best thing about it is it has no real weakness.. except i can't find any good dsl pop-ups to test it against. it's pretty durable and can get a lot of points really fast (can get over 25000 points which isn't too bad for a lw).
I'm working on a whole lot of new designs, all lws of course.
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I could send you some of my LWs, a nice duel Mag spinner, a pop-up, and some more.
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I could send you some of my LWs, a nice duel Mag spinner, a pop-up, and some more.
that would be great, thanks.
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*Looks at ian's sig*
*Tag Team Challenge 2 is coming!*
=D
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more lws!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51223New Bitmap Image (2).JPG)
top left was more a joke then anything, it annoys the heck out of rammers xD the rest do pretty well in combat.
I'm also announcing that Tag Team Challenge 2 will be DSL lws, don't ask me when i plan to start the tourney cause i have no idea.. trying to recover from the flu at the moment.
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double post O.o I built a decent AW hammer:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23499aw1.JPG)
I'm currently looking for ways to improve it.
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Hammers OK. How well powered is it? Can't be any worse than a AW pop-up I build last night.
Also, take your time, most of us are in no hurry.
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i think it has 2 ant batteries for power, anyway i made some adjustments to make it more stable etc. it's now called micro scorpion cause of the way it looks (top left robot in pic). i also made a couple of new AW's.. here's what i got:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/38010new aws.JPG)
battle shot of micro scorpion:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/82210micro scorpion.JPG)
(pic is micro scorpion vs terminus)
haven't tried to AI them yet.
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my AW drill is a lot better now, stronger external armor and a more powerful weapon motor:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8112Drilled.JPG)
beat all other 3 DSL aws i have on the game (micro scorpion, nanowhirl and terminus) in AI vs AI matches.
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trying to keep up appearances even if im ill.
heres an upgrade on my LW VS:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4414New Bitmap Image (4).JPG)
if you look close theres an alum. skirt on a (door) hinge. it's very stable.
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You must make as many as MikeNCR and face him off! I command you!
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i have built many DSL lws now, and testing with MikeNCR's lws to find a killer combo for TTC2. flawless victory (lw3) gets beaten everytime against this VS... however the VS loses to my poker.
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couple of newish AW's:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1545aws.JPG)
SnS and a poker :)
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First off:
Welcome back! :D
I like the looks of the SnS, how effective is it?
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welcome back :-D good to see you around again
I too like the look of the SnS, what armour are we looking at ?
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ty ty, it's only plastic but hopefully the other bots won't get to touch it :P it beats all the other aw's i have (usually a coin flip between most my aws).
the poker is very effective, it usually gets under other aws and pokes the undersides O.o
i would post vids but i have lost Fraps :(
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here's a video of my AW poker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb1xrWvNeWo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb1xrWvNeWo)
Fraps is lagging the game on my pc when i go to record and i don't know why :( this vid was recorded a while ago but just uploaded it today.
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it looks pretty good, actually. But I bet you would be better off with a better weapon, i think?
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any suggestions on what weapons would be better? i chose the spike cause of the hp to damage ratio, wanted something durable and damaging :P
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Beater Bar?
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seeing as the micro mayhem tourney is just about ready to go i thought i would show of my BW:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/2972running water bw.JPG)
pretty insane power :D
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Looks cool, but I think my entry can beat it, mainly because mine has more weapon durability :P
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those bars are also weapons btw, so if the razors come off they come into play :P
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I am aware of that... :P
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My entry is a cube. so it may be to high. and it will get trashed.
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How stable is that?
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very stable :D
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built a new dsl LW today :) it's a Wammer with flail razors so on impact when the bot goes over it the razors also go up and possibly hit under the other bot.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/83871new dsl lw.JPG)
2 ants, titanium 3, npc fast drive.
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NPC+Vlads would probably be better for this due to higher HP, but I'm not sure if it's just as fast as NPCF+Shinies.
It's quite a cool design, but you should try to find another setup so it's invertible. :D
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I would say try to raise the NPCs an use vlads.
Would that be correct, Mr PWN?
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that could work but it would still get stuck on its face
the top panel + tooth needs to go for invertiblity
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I would say try to raise the NPCs an use vlads.
Would that be correct, Mr PWN?
Depends, really. If I'm right, I think it's using an axle wedge. Drive height doesn't matter much when it comes to axle wedges.
But it's still nice advice. :P
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Man why does my d key keep doing that, I practically have to hammer the thing.
Anyway, I'm trying to think of a way to offset the front to it's can't get stuck.
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Maybe put metal hinge wedges?
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All I can think of is an angle Iron pointing up from the bottom just jutting out so it won't balance
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i really wanted the top protection so it does OK against hammers, i need a rear stabilizer so it doesn't flip on impact then it should be fine. I'm hoping the wedge will be good enough to not have to worry about making it invertible.
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Updated my flail wammer:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31985flail%20wammer%20v2.jpg)
is more stable, has side protection and is now invertible.
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<3
An aluminum sheet on a metal hinge might be better for this. :D
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Cool. Now if only you had entered BBEANS 6...
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awesome
have you seen Mike's Inertia (flail) Rammer ?
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yeah I've seen reactive :) and badnik i would have entered something better like the face spinner i made a little while back (still in this showcase) but lost it when i had to reformat my computer.
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*looks at bots*
*drops sultanas*
Well that worked. Anyway nice rammer. Good to see you building again ian
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Good to see you building again ian
YES very much so, we just need to drag H@z's ass on here and we will have a big aussie team once again.. :gawe:
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version 3:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48742flail%20wammer%20v3.jpg)
metal hinge wedge, armored top, invertible, 4 beater bars and 4 razor tips :)
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Very cool, but for some reason I like the one with PA skirts better. By looks, that is :P
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I like v3 the best
v2 looks to skeleton, like you built it all but didnt have the weight to fill it up with Armour pieces
the wedge on v3 is the most practical
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Working on a LW juggler, here's what i have so far:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15095LW Juggler.jpg)
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4 ant would perferbably be better, as you need atleast 1 ant for each spin motor, and I cant remember if mag drive with hypnos is better than npc with minis...
Looks very cool nontheless :D
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That is awesome.
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new LW:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25310LW FBVS.jpg)
1st attempt at making a LW full body VS.
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It's nice to see you building again! I don't have much to say about the juggler, unlike the VS.
Using Piglet motors for drive is a bad idea; it'd be better to use Astroflights or Slimbodies. To improve on the spinner setup, I suggest decreasing the space between the two motors (by mounting them in front of the chassis or narrowing the chassis). That way you can use a smaller side panel. You could also use a shorter aluminum extender so your weapon would have more reach.
Give it those improvements and I'll be happy. :bigsmile:
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take a look at R0B0's VS for ideas ;)
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still working on my FB VS however i have now got my LW Juggler to the point I'm happy with it...
name = Precious:
(https://gametechmods.com/forums/file:///C:/Users/Ian/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.png)(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14668LW%20Juggler%202.jpg)
NPC drive, 4 Ants, titanium 1 (if i remember correctly).
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shameless self bump.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50273Precious%20v3%20vs%20power%20mad.jpg)
AI'd match of course.
:)
Finished my LW FB Drum type bot...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74037Heavy Duty.jpg)
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any more suggestions or comments?
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Rather than side panel, I suggest mounting beater bars on the disk sideway.
That, and I think it's unrealistic atm.
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yeah i was thinking about using an extender or beater bar instead, will try that. how doesn't it appear realistic? nothing passes through any other part (unlike the FB Drum) and I used no stacking.
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It's impossible for the drum to cut the extender completely and rotate.
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yeah i know :P i thought you were talking about the juggler. I'm still thinking of a way to make the drum realistic.
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Yeah and the beater bar suggestion is for the drum too.
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Updated Heavy Duty:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/64341Heavy Duty 2.jpg)
Realistic now :)
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I like the design, but it seems underweaponed for a LW.
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Yeah I'm trying not to be generic that's why some of my bots will have less weapons then your average LW Flail Sheck spinner :P
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/93604Heavy%20Duty%203.jpg)
Steel 1, added a cutting Tooth at the top, weighs exactly 249 :D
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have less weapons then your average LW Flail Sheck spinner :P
Heeeyyyyy! Don't go hating on the LW Flail Sheck Spinner! :mrgreen:
Anyways, your VS could use some more weapons, unless doing so would result in a loss of awesomeness, in which case leave it be. ;)
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Had to be done...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/445mini Razor.JPG)
on impact the Bot tips over hopefully crushing the other bot under it's razor claw in the process :)
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lol
Stumble-Bot ? :P
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<3
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team robo zone 2:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/29858Team robo zone 2.jpg)
dunno if i'll get around to hosting another tournament but figured I'd show this here and if any other veteran or decent tournament host wanted to host robo zone 2 i could send you this team :)