Author Topic: Hypnodisc7's DSL Showcase (Read 9279 times)

hypnodisc7 · « **on:** December 27, 2009, 04:09:39 PM »

Here we go...

Aluminum 1mm armor (prbly should up this a little)
1 20x120 DSL bar
2 DSL 4 Hammers
3 Battlepacks

It's okay, I guess. Little tough to drive, probably because it's a bit unbalanced.

More soon

TriTon · « **Reply #1 on:** December 27, 2009, 04:28:35 PM »

Let's see what you can do here.

Build to the weight limit
Bad armor choice, use titanium.
E-tek drives are for drive only, use a dual perm.
Underpowered. 5 ants would work.
Use Techno wheels
Lighten the extender work.
Realism fail, put the weapon farther out.
Try using axle wedges or a Destroyer type system.

Someone esle finish for me.

Naryar · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2009, 02:28:00 AM »

If you haven't done it already, you should go and check other' showcases for ideas and advice.

hypnodisc7 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 28, 2009, 02:32:21 AM »

don't worry Nary, I have been checking out other showcases.

Here's an update of my bot

3mm plastic
dual perm
techno wheels
5 ant batts
a bit more realistic

EDIT: @Triton: What do you mean by a "Destroyer type system"?

Naryar · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2009, 02:36:27 AM »

Much better (and much more of a Destroyer ripoff :P)

Does your weapon passes through the ant batts? If yes, unrealistic. If no then it's fine.

G.K. · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2009, 02:39:00 AM »

https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Destroyer

hypnodisc7 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2009, 02:54:36 AM »

Wow! Almost the same bot! How did I do that? I didn't even see that picture until now. Guess I gotta be a bit more original. :P

@Nary: Yes. It's realistic. The weapon doesn't pass through batts

recent battle.

Pwnator · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2009, 03:18:44 AM »

This time, shrink the chassis and upgrade the armor/add external armor.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2009, 03:26:50 AM »

that is a great improvment between those 2 robots

keep working at it, keep improving and then enter CC3 :P

hypnodisc7 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:07:29 AM »

funny thing. I just made the chassis cube shaped! Pwn told me to shrink the chassis, so, I did.

other important changes include those 60cm side panels in the back and the armor which is now 10mm steel
Btw, it's still realistic.
i'll see if i can make it a MW for CC3. i'm gonna have to scale it down a bit though.

Pwnator · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:19:32 AM »

Good job. 10mm steel is kinda overkill, though. Probably 10mm plastic or 5mm tite would do. You can probably add another ant and some more side supports with the remaining weight. :D

123savethewhales · « **Reply #11 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:22:33 AM »

120 cm skirts are not very good for stabilizer since 120 cm tends to be too short. Being able to turn quickly or drive forward without tipping over is a very important part of Vertical Spinners. Try using DSL Bar or overkill blade.

hypnodisc7 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:27:17 AM »

the only reason i picked the skirts over DSL Bars was because of mostly the difference in durability (hitpoints). but, okay. i'll look into fixing that and adding more supports.

Pwnator · « **Reply #13 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:32:12 AM »

You could attach 120cm skirts to DSL bars. That way you won't need to sacrifice HPs for the stabilizers. :D

123savethewhales · « **Reply #14 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:35:05 AM »

Well, could just be me, but I barely got enough stability out of a 40 cm angle skirt on top of a 200x20 dsl bar. You are right though DSL bar does have less HP per kg. There's also angled side panel to consider, they can reach 80 cm for only 7 kg and come with 2800 hp.

I personally like dsl bar on 40 skirt more than 120, because you are shifting more HP to dsl bar without losing anything on the skirt.

Right, speaking of that, the "destroyer" bot is part of the NAR AI 1.1. If you are interested you can find it here

https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,1786.0.html

Be sure to backup your existing DSL before applying this patch, just in case you want to convert back, or for any technical reasons.

hypnodisc7 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:59:37 AM »

Okay. Having taken all of that advice into consideration, I came up with this

Important updates:
*10mm plastic armor
*doubled up the rear plates
*added a plate to the extender holding the dual perm
*added castor armor
*DSL bars on flipper segments for stability

Pwnator · « **Reply #16 on:** December 28, 2009, 05:07:59 AM »

I like the 6-legged look. XD

You could probably add 3 more shell panels somewhere else with the remaining weight. :D

123savethewhales · « **Reply #17 on:** December 28, 2009, 05:22:33 AM »

Looks good.

Maybe you can cover your chassis a bit more, mostly the front You might also want to consider changing the steel extender connecting the wheels to dsl bar. I mean you got double side panel to protect it and the way I see it, the flipper segment is more likely to break than the bar.

Naryar · « **Reply #18 on:** December 28, 2009, 05:35:08 AM »

...especially since you have weight left and that DSL bars are better than steel extenders in HP/kg ratio.

It looks pretty good though.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #19 on:** December 28, 2009, 06:26:25 AM »

time for some free complements :P

- how much you improved is really good
- your a quick learner
- your a good at following advice others give
- you made a robot with a unique look to it

you could use the top attachment points of shell panels to put on the front DSL bars