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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2014, 08:05:29 PM »
The BW looks a little more of sub-par DSL-S than IRL, so I'm probably gonna reject that.

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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2014, 08:13:58 PM »
fixed the bw, turns correctly now



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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2014, 08:48:57 PM »
i cannot make a hammer to save my life. plastic 3, bw

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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2014, 02:47:54 AM »
hammer is kinda nice... FS has a giant disc at BW level, needs to be smaller so you can make it invertible

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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2014, 09:38:06 AM »
hammer is kinda nice... FS has a giant disc at BW level, needs to be smaller so you can make it invertible

what do you suggest using for the disc? I used the smallest DSL one
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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2014, 10:59:53 AM »
hammer is kinda nice... FS has a giant disc at BW level, needs to be smaller so you can make it invertible

what do you suggest using for the disc? I used the smallest DSL one
Hex plate

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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2014, 09:47:08 AM »
hammer is kinda nice... FS has a giant disc at BW level, needs to be smaller so you can make it invertible

what do you suggest using for the disc? I used the smallest DSL one
Hex plate

hex plate indeed, and some small beaters.

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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2018, 11:38:05 PM »
whoa there

i fixed some awful bots and probably made them worse

remake of klone much (somewhere in this showcase)



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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2018, 11:40:27 PM »
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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2018, 11:45:31 PM »
Just wanna say that the way batteries work now in 2.2 is totally different from 2.1 so you might wanna rework what you are currently running, ant batteries are pretty ass now.

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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2018, 11:47:52 PM »
Just wanna say that the way batteries work now in 2.2 is totally different from 2.1 so you might wanna rework what you are currently running, ant batteries are pretty ass now.

cool so if someone could just send me a Google doc with all the meta changes in the last five years that'd be great
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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2018, 09:02:31 AM »
Just wanna say that the way batteries work now in 2.2 is totally different from 2.1 so you might wanna rework what you are currently running, ant batteries are pretty ass now.

cool so if someone could just send me a Google doc with all the meta changes in the last five years that'd be great

-Batteries behave like actual batteries, how long a battery's gonna last is detailed in it's description.
-Razors aren't OP any more, pretty much every weapon's balanced now (Except pre-made discs such as the Mechavore Disc which are ridiculously OP)
-Wheels are balanced now, sorta? Again, the details are in the item's description. Like weapons, you generally pick which one is best suited for the job.

That first bot's pretty okay, just change the ant batteries for a WP836E (black battery), to save 4 KG's and properly power your bot, and trade that old-school BSG for a new-school VDMA, for much more oomph in your attack. Then all you need to do is shave 0.3KG's from somewhere to keep it in the weight limit, which you could easily do by swapping the tite extenders for alu.


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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2018, 09:44:02 AM »
Just wanna say that the way batteries work now in 2.2 is totally different from 2.1 so you might wanna rework what you are currently running, ant batteries are pretty ass now.

cool so if someone could just send me a Google doc with all the meta changes in the last five years that'd be great

-Batteries behave like actual batteries, how long a battery's gonna last is detailed in it's description.
-Razors aren't OP any more, pretty much every weapon's balanced now (Except pre-made discs such as the Mechavore Disc which are ridiculously OP)
-Wheels are balanced now, sorta? Again, the details are in the item's description. Like weapons, you generally pick which one is best suited for the job.

That first bot's pretty okay, just change the ant batteries for a WP836E (black battery), to save 4 KG's and properly power your bot, and trade that old-school BSG for a new-school VDMA, for much more oomph in your attack. Then all you need to do is shave 0.3KG's from somewhere to keep it in the weight limit, which you could easily do by swapping the tite extenders for alu.
To expand on this, replica components are the most OP. The most egregious examples are large typhoon teeth, the frenzy hammer and the large mechavore disc. Sometimes you'll see a whirl-whep disc as a counter to mechvore spinners, since it deweapons a large mechavore disc 1v1.

The above weapons are really the only ones I've seen used 'competitively' in 2.2. The two exceptions would be spike strips, which seem to be the popup weapon of choice now, and I think spamming ant saws isn't terrible maybe idk.

Also, there's a weapon rebalance patch that's been floating around for a while, which as far as I know but brings the replica components in line with everything else.
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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2018, 12:33:37 AM »
thx for feedback, updated DOA clone for 2.2




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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2018, 12:39:15 AM »
Not fully sold on still using razors, especially since spike strips are now the go to weapon for popups. But still it's a pretty decent improvement. That being said, I'd err on the side of caution for battery life and try to cram a bit more in there.

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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2018, 10:14:59 AM »
Not fully sold on still using razors, especially since spike strips are now the go to weapon for popups. But still it's a pretty decent improvement. That being said, I'd err on the side of caution for battery life and try to cram a bit more in there.

What, for another DOA clone? No way. 1 Black'll be enough to power that thing for 3 minutes with no worries. Same for Glacier, actually, although maybe swap for two Battlepacks if the longer VDMA drains battery more than expected.

Melting Point definitely doesn't need that extra ant. Delete it and spend the weight on a beefier weapon setup.


Taco Cat's a funky design, but I'm worried, again, about you having too many batteries. Plus, them wedges don't look like they'd be awfully wedgy.


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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2018, 02:15:17 PM »
Taco Cat's a funky design, but I'm worried, again, about you having too many batteries. Plus, them wedges don't look like they'd be awfully wedgy.

What is/isn't a good wedge nowadays? Serious question
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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2018, 04:05:12 PM »
As in bots to test against? There's hardly anything to test against in DSL2.2, since basically everyone moved to IRL or Ironforge. 2.1 bots should have just as good wedges as before, so whatever had good wedges back then will be your best bet to test against.

As far as wedge design goes, basically nothing has changed. The only thing I can think of is maybe you left before we realised that only the centre AP of the skirt hinge is actually wedgy. So don't use either of the outer APs for wedges. Skirts + hinges are still king as far as I know.
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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2018, 04:16:07 PM »
The skirt hinge and the door hinge are basically the same in terms of wedging ability as well, I think.

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Re: Freeziez's DSL Showcase
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2018, 04:24:29 PM »
As in bots to test against? There's hardly anything to test against in DSL2.2, since basically everyone moved to IRL or Ironforge. 2.1 bots should have just as good wedges as before, so whatever had good wedges back then will be your best bet to test against.

As far as wedge design goes, basically nothing has changed. The only thing I can think of is maybe you left before we realised that only the centre AP of the skirt hinge is actually wedgy. So don't use either of the outer APs for wedges. Skirts + hinges are still king as far as I know.

What!? Only the center AP is wedgy? I’ll still use the side AP for my flanking strategy.
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